We are engaged in another national screamfest on guns and at Resistance HQ they turn their lonely eyes to... Trump?
Another Shooting, Another Gun Debate. Will the Outcome Be the Same?
Maybe not! Partly because rather than try to propose something specific that we can evaluate the gun control side has opted to hide behind emotional teenagers. Are we talking about banning "assault weapons", AR-15s, semiautomatic rifles, or what? Don't ask - it's for the children!
However, the Times notes that help may arrive from an unexpected source:
Another difference [in this debate] is an unpredictable president who belongs to the National Rifle Association and promotes the N.R.A.-favored solution of arming trained teachers but has also embraced a couple of modest gun control measures opposed by gun rights groups.
It's Nixon-to-China, except that Trump supported an assault weapons ban in 2000. Back to the Times, where (much later) we hear about Trump again:
In the days after the shooting, Mr. Trump consulted advisers as well as Chris W. Cox, the N.R.A.’s chief lobbyist. The president called Senator John Cornyn of Texas, the Republican whip, who was traveling in the Middle East, to discuss his bill with Mr. Murphy requiring states and federal agencies to report more often to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System offenses that would bar gun purchases.
“These kids, they’re organizing, they want action,” an aide told Mr. Trump.
“I want action, too,” he replied, according to another aide. “That’s why I ran for president.”
What about #Resist?!?
At the request of Gov. Rick Scott of Florida, Mr. Trump called a girl wounded in the attack, and afterward, the call seemed to remain on his mind, as he kept bringing it up with aides. Last Friday, he visited a Florida hospital and met victims, a visit still on his mind when he had dinner Saturday night at his Mar-a-Lago estate with his sons Donald Jr. and Eric, his daughter-in-law Lara and the Fox News commentator Geraldo Rivera.
The president noted that the injuries he saw were more grisly than those portrayed in the movies. “He was definitely horrified by the severity, the savagery of those wounds that the children suffered,” Mr. Rivera recalled. “And he kept saying, ‘How do you recover from that?’”
Mr. Trump mentioned tightening background checks. “He brought up how absurd it is that someone can buy a gun even though they’re on the no-fly list,” Mr. Rivera said. Asked for his opinion, Mr. Rivera suggested raising the minimum age to buy an assault rifle to 21 from 18.
Eric Trump, who like his brother is a big-game hunter, seemed to push back, noting that there are already more than 300 million guns in circulation in the United States, implying that new restrictions might be pointless.
But the president, in defiance of the N.R.A., has since publicly embraced the age increase and ordered the Justice Department to develop regulations to ban bump stocks.
By Thursday, Mr. Trump seemed to be following the lead of the N.R.A. again, talking enthusiastically of its proposal to arm highly trained teachers to fortify schools. Still, he has taken different views of gun laws before. In “The America We Deserve,” published in 2000 when he briefly ran for the Reform Party presidential nomination, Mr. Trump called both major parties extreme.
“The Republicans walk the N.R.A. line and refuse even limited restrictions,” he wrote. “I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.”
Mr. Trump owns guns and has had a concealed weapon permit since 2010. When he set out to win the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, he was pressed by voters in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina to support gun rights, an experience that aides said hardened his views. He dropped support for an assault rifle ban. “I love the N.R.A.,” he declared. “I love the Second Amendment.”
If The Resistance has finally figured out that Trump is a sucker for praise but digs in like a mule when criticized, well, the Never-Trumpers better be ready to host a lot of new guests from the right.
Did you know that Line Dancing was started by women waiting to use the bathroom?
Posted by: Davod | February 23, 2018 at 05:08 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-cdc-employee-left-work-sick-10-days/story?id=53284363
#SemiAutomaticEbola
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 23, 2018 at 05:09 PM
Hot damn. Just turned the A/C on.
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma | February 23, 2018 at 05:12 PM
I ordered some new ammo today and specified the fastest bullet thingies possible. Those slow ones sucked
Sarcasm?
Posted by: sbwaters | February 23, 2018 at 05:14 PM
Daviod
Simply make an exception for those who have served in the military
Posted by: F Hudson | February 23, 2018 at 05:15 PM
Davod keeps getting autocorrected to David. Could you change your handle please?? ;)
Good suggestion, Another boob.
Posted by: sbwaters | February 23, 2018 at 05:16 PM
That's some witness, boatbuilder!
++++++++++++++
Now, here is my imitation of "Boring Dinner Guest" on the word "Chinos" (Chee-nose) ;)
If Maw was particularly fond of a Chinese man or woman in our neighborhood, she'd refer to them as "la Chinita" or "el Chinito."
There's a whole different etymology to Small c "chino" in California history--- it is somewhat derogatory according to old Spaniard Spanish from the days of the California Spanish land grants.
Santa Ana CA was originally Santa Ana de Chino...where chino referred to a person of mixed race, half-breeds, etc. Back then, landed gentry was big on identifying their real estate accordingly.
Now...drum roll please...all these "chinos" ....so let's get to the bottom of how "chinos" got their name---->
Twill military uniforms for tropical weather. Pioneered by Brits and French. Manufactured in China.
During the Spanish American War, American troops wearing the Chinese-made twill pants were said to be wearing "pantalones chinos (Chinese pants)."
The name was shortened in America to "chinos."
This is far from the definitive twist on things.
I was bamboozled when my Paw bought me my first pair of "chinos." "Paw--- pretty sure you can't buy me some Chinese guys."
Language can be cruel to a kid. ;)
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 05:17 PM
Kev!!!!! They call it the same thing that gets you to Carnegie Hall.
PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.
Or
Sore fingers. My fingers are immune.
Posted by: GUS | February 23, 2018 at 05:20 PM
F Hudson, the Constitution isn't the thing on a roll next to your throne.
Posted by: henry | February 23, 2018 at 05:21 PM
Paw made an interesting remark about why these #MeTooers are being turned into prostitutes--willingly.
The tell-alls about having illict affairs with famous people set up the "party girl" to become a
paid who-er once she takes money for the book deal or the "big story.
All this who-ering. So when does the Left media figure out that banging strays before you're President is not an impeachable offense?
LewdyChris!
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 05:22 PM
Jane:
I am sorry we could not get together.
It was a very tight organized schedule and we didn’t have our own car.
My brother lives near Orlando.The weather was fabulous every day.
JIB: It is hard to return up north but as a friend stated:
Florida is fun and a vacation, up north is real life.I suggested armed guards at schools and a metal detector plus no outside access during the school day Guards at the ready at the beginning and the end of school day.
This was recommended after Sandy Hook.
Also arming qualified teachers
Posted by: maryrose | February 23, 2018 at 05:23 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/23/news/kfc-apology-ad-shortage-chicken/index.html
Make sure to see the logo on the bucket.
Posted by: jim nj | February 23, 2018 at 05:24 PM
Steph:
Just turned the heat up.
Posted by: maryrose | February 23, 2018 at 05:24 PM
CNN sources say:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/parkland-school-shooting-broward-deputies/index.html
If true, they may need 18 more police officers to guard the other deputies.
#UnderStaffed
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 23, 2018 at 05:29 PM
About the typical AR-15 assault rifle ammunition, typically .223 of an inch in diameter.
That means it is .001 bigger than your standard .22 rimfire ammunition.
As far as weight, the popular size .223 ammo weighs 55 grains while the standard .22 rimfire is 40 grains -- a difference of about a small paper clip.
The .223 will get to the target faster, but the .22 rimfire is still traveling at more than 1000 feet per second.
In other words, an “assault rifle” is no more dangerous than any other firearm has been for a hundred years. Anyone who says it is is too ignorant about weapons to argue about their use.
It is the hands that hold the weapon that are the danger.
Posted by: sbwaters | February 23, 2018 at 05:34 PM
https://twitter.com/sean_spicier/status/967141701780426753
https://twitter.com/hertz/status/967132184439066626
Posted by: Neo | February 23, 2018 at 05:37 PM
If I ran the NRA's press office I would issue a statement denouncing the Sheriff and the 4 deputies, assuming what CNN says is true, and make it clear that they are banned for life from getting a membership to the NRA.
That is my kind of multi-dimensional chess.
Maybe follow it up with an offer for a provisional membership if they complete several NRA sanctioned training courses.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 23, 2018 at 05:38 PM
Henry
That's exactly what it is. When constitutional rights conflict the throne must decide the best way to preserve as much of the conflicting constitutional rights as possible.
Posted by: F Hudson | February 23, 2018 at 05:38 PM
jane you have clearly never ordered food at my local Chinese food haunt. whispers or high pitched screaming. no inbetween. small sample size but i don't think they are into curling so...:-)
Posted by: mad jack | February 23, 2018 at 05:38 PM
CH - did you read the Gates indictment (that he has plead guilty to)?
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4386213/2-23-18-Gates-Information.pdf
Criminally evading taxes on $75million qualifies as bad in my book.
Posted by: exdemocrat | February 23, 2018 at 05:39 PM
This is to much of a coincidence. These guys were trained to do this!!!!! No wonder this sherrif cannot stay off the TV.
The sheriff needs to be shamed, vilified and heckled out of office.
Posted by: Davod | February 23, 2018 at 05:39 PM
When is the next election for Blowhard County Sheriff?
That pantload is toast.
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 05:42 PM
Barney, Gomer, and Goober. Which one had the bullet.
Posted by: GUS | February 23, 2018 at 05:45 PM
Ed
For your listening pleasure:
Four Men and a Dog "Struggle On"
https://youtu.be/PB_js8v9eLg
Posted by: Buckeye | February 23, 2018 at 05:45 PM
What do you mean by "conflicting" Constitutional rigths. Is this a "throne thing" that I won't understand.
I'm sure you can clear this right up.
Posted by: GUS | February 23, 2018 at 05:46 PM
The collection of loose holes at HuffPo take the cake in the wake of POTUS' response to the Parkland slaughter (it puts Columbine at #5 in the American slaughter record books for schools).
I loathe these rats:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-gun-violence-listening-session-cheat-sheet_us_5a8df898e4b077f5bfeaca88
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 05:47 PM
Ed
Here is some recent Irish/Celtic music by Phoebe Hunt who is an up and coming Country singer.
Wish the video wasn't lip synced, but otherwise very good.
https://youtu.be/TdpzQ9g_3sw
Posted by: Buckeye | February 23, 2018 at 05:49 PM
How much listening did the crew at CNN do with that JROTC hero they'd first ask to write a speech re his experiences; but, then they gave him a scripted question instead.
ILTP.
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 05:49 PM
All the information was there
Sean Davis
Sean Davis
@seanmdav
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12m
One of the tips to the FBI about the Florida school shooter was that "he's so into ISIS." The caller was worried he would "take off and just start shooting places up." (link: http://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2018/02/23/fbi-transcripts/assets/fbi-transcript.pdf) static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2…
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Posted by: lurkersusie | February 23, 2018 at 05:50 PM
speaking of stereotypes. this hibernian is heading out to enjoy a libation...or three. enjoy the evening folks.
Posted by: mad jack | February 23, 2018 at 05:51 PM
How i feel following the shitake tsunami re Parkland SlaughterPen:
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 05:55 PM
If I ran the NRA's press office I would issue a statement denouncing the Sheriff and the 4 deputies
I cannot spare this man. He fights.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 23, 2018 at 05:55 PM
Hard to catch up when you’ve been driving for 9 hours but the Beagles are in the kennel and Frederick and I are at Ruby Tuesday’s in Roanoke Rapids, NC. Just had a nice Grey Goose martini and now waiting for my rib eye.
Interesting in listening to Rush today about the CNNgungrabpalooza last night that he never mentioned Tappers former association with Handgun Control, Inc. Hard to believe he wasn’t aware of it. Hell, even Frederick was and was screaming at the car radio “Rush, Tapper is conflicted.”
More after dinner.
Cheers!
Posted by: Jack is Back! (At Ruby Tuesday’s) | February 23, 2018 at 05:58 PM
Hard to catch up when you’ve been driving for 9 hours but the Beagles are in the kennel and Frederick and I are at Ruby Tuesday’s in Roanoke Rapids, NC. Just had a nice Grey Goose martini and now waiting for my rib eye.
Interesting in listening to Rush today about the CNNgungrabpalooza last night that he never mentioned Tappers former association with Handgun Control, Inc. Hard to believe he wasn’t aware of it. Hell, even Frederick was and was screaming at the car radio “Rush, Tapper is conflicted.”
More after dinner.
Cheers!
Posted by: Jack is Back! (At Ruby Tuesday’s) | February 23, 2018 at 05:58 PM
Gus, it is not clear F H knows to lift the lid or what the handle does while he spews "wisdom" from the throne.
Posted by: henry | February 23, 2018 at 05:58 PM
Posting this thread again from Sundance on the real scandal in Broward.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966854507744374784.html
It really is a must-read. Well-documented. Just watch your blood pressure.
Posted by: Porchlight | February 23, 2018 at 05:59 PM
So he admitted to being a tax cheat. So was Tim Geithner but without a special counsel stuck with coming up with something to justify a giant snipe hunt.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 23, 2018 at 05:59 PM
GUS--- Like everthang else, eh? Maw used to signal practice time was upon me during summers as kid.
She had an AM radio which she'd tune to KFRC 610 or KEWB 910. They'd play "Classical Gas" every ten minutes. She'd blast it when it was time.
I had callouses of steel and was the only one among my friends who kept his wrist down while playing chords. Had a great teacher.
Have a good weekend!
Kev out.
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 06:00 PM
From the Sundance Twitter thread:
20. From 2012 though 2018 it only got worse. In Broward and Miami-Dade it is almost impossible for a student to get arrested. The staff within the upper levels of LEO keep track of arrests and when a certain number is reached all else is excused.
21. Well it didn't take long for criminal gangs in Broward and Miami-Dade to realize the benefit of using students for their criminal activities. After all, the kids would be let go... so organized crime became easier to get away with if they enlisted high-school kids.
22. As criminals became more adept at the timing within the offices of the officials, they timed their biggest crimes to happen after the monthly maximum arrest quota was made.
23. The most serious of armed robberies etc. were timed for later in the month or quarter. The really serious crimes were timed in the latter phases of the data collection periods. This way the student criminals were almost guaranteed to get away with it.
24. Now. You can see how that entire process gets worse over time. Present corruption (the need to hide the policy) expands in direct relationship to the corruption before it. This is where the School Police come into play.
25. Understanding the risk behind the scheme, it became increasingly important to put the best corrupt cops in the schools. *BEST* as in *SMARTEST*. Those SRO's became the ones who were best at hiding the unlawful conduct.
26. Again, over time, the most corrupt police officers within the system became the police inside the schools. These officers were those who are best skilled at identifying the political objectives and instructions.
27. Those "School Cops" also have special privileges. It's a great gig. They get free "on campus" housing close to the schools they are assigned to etc. They're crooked as hell and the criminal kids how just how to play them. It's a game. Also an open secret.
Posted by: Porchlight | February 23, 2018 at 06:03 PM
More Honest Jake Tapper:
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=374002
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 23, 2018 at 06:10 PM
Pretty clear what the problem is Porch.
The Superintendent and Sheriff deserve some of that prison time they managed to shield the thugs from.
Posted by: Buckeye | February 23, 2018 at 06:13 PM
Jumping ahead here from catch up...
The chat about chinos brought to mind a question I asked an AI instructor from MA once in a former life. He had to my mid-western ear a heavy Boston accent.
He'd been razzing a couple of fellows from Kalispell, MT, calling it Cow Bells. I stopped by the podium after class and asked him some silly question, like, "What about khakis?"
A puzzled look was returned. "What do you mean, khakis...like the pants?"
"Noooo," I said. "Like what you use to staaat ya caaah!" Puzzled look doubled. Then he realized he'd been had.
Somehow I passed the course.
Posted by: Ed | February 23, 2018 at 06:16 PM
Maryrose! I've been looking forward to seeing you for 6 months! You are a bad girl!
Did you like Punta Gorda? Can I get you to come back next year?
Posted by: Jane | February 23, 2018 at 06:47 PM
Not so extreme if one considers the Stone Wall of Perpaganda surrounding practically every institutional sector in 'Merka.
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 07:03 PM
And here's some ipyecac from Los Chinos across the Pacific:
Snippet from the aggregator first: "In an op-ed of pathological chutzpah today (2/23), a Chicom propaganda organ, China Military, claimed: China Can Offer Lessons to US in Protecting Human Rights.
Here you have the most mass-murdering regime in human history, with the Guinness record-holder of mass-murder, Mao (45 million unarmed Chinese in 4 years alone) on every denomination of Chinese currency, lecturing us on human rights.
And note, every one of the Chicom gun-control arguments is taken straight from the choir book of Fake News gun-control Lefties.
http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/2018-02/23/content_7949190.htm
IHTFP.
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 07:07 PM
Ot, there's a new novel by some one named glover, last man in europe' about orwells process that went into writing 1984, he takes newspeak from a linguist at the time empson. Doublespeak from auto Bio of trotsky, the three superstates from burnhams 'the machiavellians' and draws the dark forever war opening from his feeling after dunkirk
Posted by: narciso | February 23, 2018 at 07:14 PM
Jane:
So sorry!
Yes I loved Punta Gorda.
We also went to Sarasota yesterday which was lovely.
Bradenton I believe was also a Town we visited.
So relaxing and enjoyable.
Perfect weather!
Posted by: maryrose | February 23, 2018 at 07:14 PM
More info on the guy mentioned at the end of CH's 6:10:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265187/broward-deputy-sheriff-leads-banquets-featuring-joe-kaufman
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 23, 2018 at 07:15 PM
What do you think about Gates?
Any prison time or just fines?
Posted by: maryrose | February 23, 2018 at 07:17 PM
Film buffs.... a bit of Americano film trivia and genuine family history from a Great American--- Dr. Jack Wheeler.... sorry if you hate the Bee Gees....but it's a good read (short):
"We end with story time – a personal one. In 1929 my father was 16 years old. My grandfather Lucien handled private security for Jack Warner and Warner Bros. studios. It was the height of Prohibition, and wealthy Mexican businessmen had built a glorious booze-fueled resort across the border called Agua Caliente.
All the Hollywood elite were at the opening, including of course Jack Warner. Lucien was with him – and my Dad. One of the Mexican investors wanted to introduce his daughter, who was my father’s age, to Mr. Warner. Her name was Margarita Cansino, and when my father saw her, he knew why.
She had the beauty of a goddess. My father was completely entranced as they went for a long walk by themselves in the moonlight on the resort’s golf course. They got along for – I’ll have to find the picture I have of my Dad when he was really young – he was as handsome as Rudolph Valentino.
At any rate, they never saw each other again. Warner did sign her to a contract, but it couldn’t take effect until she was 18. Then she moved to Hollywood, where Warner changed her name. Here’s a compilation of her movie dancing set to Stayin’ Alive. TTPer Edd Forke tells me she was the only dance partner that ever intimidated the great Fred Astaire.
Yes, she’s Rita Hayworth…"
https://youtu.be/mz3CPzdCDws
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 07:23 PM
Gates? As with any swamp critter, toss him in an active volcano from a helicopter. But, he will get a wrist slap. Why? Because the swamp cannot afford real accountability. That especially includes the Muelkers / Comeys / CongressCritters / other civil servants. Toss one in a volcano, the rest know they deserve worse. Ergo, they won't let it happen. "They" includes the swamp critter of record Sessions.
Posted by: henry | February 23, 2018 at 07:23 PM
Porchlight,
That thread from Sundance proves my suspicion that he is from Coral Springs. It was the Coral Springs PD that arrived in force while Sherriff Israel's deputies were hiding behind pillars and cars.
As I have said, the forensics of this shooting drilling deep into the politics, the behaviors and lack of action from every authority will reveal that they not only actively through their PC inactions gave Cruz every opportunity to kill.
If I am a parent I want Cruz punished to the extent of the law but I also want the school, the sheriff and the FBI punished as well. They are all co-conspirators.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 23, 2018 at 07:27 PM
So Rodham CONS the entire SWAMP ESTABLISHMENT. She pays $12,000,000.00 for LIES and SLIME, she smashes her phones with hammers, she has her illicit server acid washed clean, LIKE WITH A CLOTH. She parcels out CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS that are hacked. She deletes 30,000. Thats THIRTY THOUSAND E-MAILS that a JUDGE DEMANDED.
NOTHING. Nothing happens, not a fucking thing happens to the ugly hag. NOTHING.
Posted by: GUS | February 23, 2018 at 07:27 PM
I encourage everyone to watch and listen to President Trump''s CPAC speech today. I will pprobably listen to it again tomorrow.
He is upbeat, jovial, gets digs in at the appropriate people (Clinton, Kerry and Obama) and also mentions that "there are bad people doing very bead things". He also makes it a point to mention sanctuary cities, MS-13m and human trafficking.
He doesn't sound at all concerned about the special counsel. He also sounds like there is stuff that is going to happen.
You can read the transcript at the link I provided if you don't want to spend over an hour listening. Or you can put it on in the background while you do other things.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 23, 2018 at 07:33 PM
This is one of the interviews
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/25/566438867/george-orwells-life-in-the-last-man-in-europe
Posted by: narciso | February 23, 2018 at 07:35 PM
JiB, the school, sheriff, and FBI will be punished less than the wrist slap Gates receives. All deserve lamp posts.
Posted by: henry | February 23, 2018 at 07:35 PM
I'm experiencing SpecCounsel fatigue and Fake News Fuckery fatigue.
POTUS lifts my spirits.
I still want skulls. Pol Pot level works. See how I feel after that.
IHTFP.
Okay. Now they're callin'....2 hours late...PST is a hard time zone to figure out I guess.
Bye.
Kev
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 07:37 PM
henry,
Everyone's dance card is full and the invitations to the salon is still coming no matter what. It will requrire a Herculean effort to clean these stables out.
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 23, 2018 at 07:37 PM
And like Hercules, he won't get any credit when he does it.
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 23, 2018 at 07:42 PM
JiB, I've been reading the Sharpe novels. We are past 12D underwater chess and at the point where volley fire followed by fixed swords are the answer. Our leaders are fixated on the chess.
Posted by: henry | February 23, 2018 at 07:44 PM
Like riddick in a hall full of necromongers, Kiev?
Posted by: narciso | February 23, 2018 at 07:45 PM
Well, look here. Broward county deputy training Muslims on concealed carry and being armed at the mosque, while telling the schools they shouldn't have armed teachers:
Hamze, a Broward County Sheriff’s Office deputy, practicing Muslim, and regional operations director for CAIR, was leading an active shooter training for the Tampa-area Daarus Salaam Mosque. The goal: to help worshipers understand how they can better protect their loved ones and their mosque from Islamophobic shooters.
“When someone walks through that door, they don’t want to debate. They want to kill you,” Hamze explained. This year, 13 CAIR-sponsored active shooter trainings have been held in mosques across Florida, the only state to have done so, a CAIR representative said.
As part of a comprehensive safety plan, he urged mosque leaders to put together a safety and security council, consisting of members who have concealed carry permits who are on the site at all times. Attendees should also consider buying guns for themselves and their homes, he suggested.
Full story here:
https://fusion.tv/story/246653/florida-muslims-and-guns/
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 23, 2018 at 07:48 PM
On the bright side, I note Scipio was considered a promiscuous provincial rube by the nabobs in Rome. Scipio did stomp Hannibal. (As well as Hannibal's brother). Maybe Trump is more Scipio than Cato. I certainly hope so.
Posted by: henry | February 23, 2018 at 07:55 PM
This woman should be in jail.
Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
SUSAN RICE’s lawyer explains why she drafted the email to herself on Jan. 20, 2017:
Obama team was afraid of sharing classified intel with FLYNN. She wrote email on advice of WH counsel.
https://mobile.twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/967188350691086337/photo/1
Posted by: lurkersusie | February 23, 2018 at 07:57 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5422759/Former-Freemason-naked-inside-pipe-organ-Brisbane.html
Headline you don't see every day:
Former Freemason, 51, found drunk and naked inside a huge pipe organ with a toy gun and remote-controlled police car says he got lost while trying to hand out cheeseburgers to the homeless
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 23, 2018 at 07:58 PM
MM,
Sounds like the perfect replacement for the Broward County sheriff.
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 23, 2018 at 08:04 PM
Former Stonecutter:
https://youtu.be/0RDshME5V8s
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 23, 2018 at 08:07 PM
My only comment on this is that many a square root calculation has killed a lot of math students.
https://pjmedia.com/parenting/student-faces-expulsion-saying-math-symbol-looks-like-gun/
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 23, 2018 at 08:10 PM
This was the fellow who forced depp into the ransom video
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/barnaby-joyce-steps-down-a-victim-of-barnaby-joyce/newsstory/
736b6697e85302e0dfc9e52c021d350f
Posted by: narciso | February 23, 2018 at 08:10 PM
Interesting chart:
https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2018/02/12/Photos/NS/MW-GD574_CPICha_20180212131601_NS.png?uuid=c83e3afe-1020-11e8-9eb3-9c8e992d421e
Note how the heavily government-subsidized items (college tuition, health care) have steep price increases, while the free market items are showing declining prices.
Food is in the middle, probably because of ag subsidies and food stamps.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 23, 2018 at 08:17 PM
MM,
China can't help the red lines but they do help the blue lines.
What we control we gouge. What we don't we can't.
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 23, 2018 at 08:24 PM
Long drive tomorrow. Different from today. Same miles but along the NE corridor. What took 9 hours today, even on a Saturday can take 12 hours tomorrow.
So, slaap lekker, tot morgen. Stay safe and be nice.
Cheers,
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 23, 2018 at 08:26 PM
You sure that wasnt Marius, Scorpio was on the Cornelia clan, grandson of counsels
Posted by: narciso | February 23, 2018 at 08:28 PM
Of the Cornelia, whereas marius had succeeded two commanders in the war against jugurtha, include on the metelli clan.
Posted by: narciso | February 23, 2018 at 08:32 PM
narciso, I got lost in the who was in what clan stuff. Scipio figured out infantry squares to beat Hannibal in Spain. True ass kicker. Cato the Elder tried to bend him to Rome's knee. Fortunately for Rome, Scipio had other plans.
Scipio Africanus was Marius Cornelius Scipio (I just checked wiki), the third Punic war and Jugurtha was his son... I'd have to check with my brother, an avid Scipio fan (and classics major). Either way, I prefer Scipio over Cato.
Posted by: henry | February 23, 2018 at 08:46 PM
I see on Twitter that Joe and Mika are whipping up the mob against FedEx.
I hope Fred tells them to cram it.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 23, 2018 at 08:50 PM
No jugurtha was a Prince of another North African kingdom who had retained good relations,with Rome even and would later in imperial times.
Posted by: narciso | February 23, 2018 at 08:51 PM
New thread.
Posted by: henry | February 23, 2018 at 08:52 PM
A Spectator review of A memoir of Communism’s ghastly heyday, to which many a Millennial would like to return. -In Russian Wonderland: An American’s Odyssey in Soviet Russia, By Charles Cole, includes this tit-bit:
"...During a stopover in Moscow, Charles and his fellow guides went to dinner at the Hotel Ukraina. While waiting to be seated, they were approached by four black men who asked if they were Americans. The group decided to have dinner together. These English-speaking black men were from Africa. Charles innocently asked if their country sent a lot of exchange students to Moscow. “Oh, yes,” replied one, “we send all of them here to the Soviet Union.” He explained why: “We used to send quite a few of our students to Princeton, Columbia, and Berkeley, but they all came back Marxists. Now we send them here, and after three or four years in the USSR, they all return dedicated anti-communists...”
https://spectator.org/in-commie-wonderland/
Posted by: Davod | February 23, 2018 at 08:53 PM
Buckeye! Many thanks. That is the exact CD on which I first heard Four Men and a Dog. (My CDs have been scattered by the kids meddling in dad's stuff over the last 20 years.)
That's the good news. Here's the not so good news. Playing it sounded to me like I was caught in middle of a large hen house being marauded by a band of foxes. I have a looong way to go for recovery, but each day brings improvement. It's a process of matching memories of the music from one part of my brain with the synthesized impulses being shot up the auditory nerve from the processor electrodes implanted in the cochlea. It's been explained to me that my auditory cortex has gone to sleep, and must be reawakened by intense and repetitive listening. I've been lazy, also, to the dismay of my audiologist angels.
Listening to familiar music is a huge advantage to that process. I seem to be blessed with a strong memory of tunes I listened to a lot, going back over 50 years now, i.e., my earlier comments about Glenn Miller's orchestra.
I want to cut this off for now, but will assemble a sampling those various genres to pass on to you. Again, many thanks.
Ed
Posted by: Ed | February 23, 2018 at 08:55 PM
NN, Tampa is NOT in Broward county.
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 23, 2018 at 08:56 PM
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Posted by: narciso | February 23, 2018 at 08:58 PM
No that's Hillsborough county.
Posted by: narciso | February 23, 2018 at 09:02 PM
Musta been distracted, narciso, when that comet blew by---- and there they were.
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 23, 2018 at 09:43 PM
--Is anyone looking at the actual system before we spend a ton-o-money in DC making new regs and laws?--
The NICS system is relatively automated. It's most common problems are false positives caused by identical names and the lackadaisical input from various state and other authorities responsible for keeping NICS updated.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 23, 2018 at 11:45 PM