This news about Vanessa Trump (wife of Donald Jr.) is appalling.
Vanessa Trump taken to hospital as precaution after white powder sent to her home
by and
President Donald Trump's daughter-in-law was taken to a Manhattan hospital as a precaution on Monday after a suspicious letter containing an unidentified white powder was sent to her apartment, senior law enforcement and city officials told NBC News.
The letter was addressed to Vanessa Trump's husband, Donald Trump Jr., the eldest child of the president and his ex-wife Ivana.
After the letter was opened, three people at the residence were taken to New York Presbyterian-Weill Cornell Medical Center strictly as a precaution, the New York City Fire Department said.
There is no indication anyone suffered any injuries; the NYPD said the substance was deemed to be non-hazardous and was taken to a lab for further analysis.
"How disturbed must a person be to do what they did to a mother of five children?'' Michael Cohen, President Trump's personal attorney, said in a statement. "This dangerous and reckless act goes beyond political differences."
Well, it ought to go beyond political differences. We'll see.
Obviously "Russians."
Posted by: boatbuilder | February 12, 2018 at 05:30 PM
That shriekign fag hag Midler probably thinks this is hilarious.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 12, 2018 at 05:46 PM
Antifa bike lock swingers.
Baseball shooters.
Lawn mower attackers.
Now postal terror.
At what point does preemptive shooting become necessary for self defense?
Posted by: henry | February 12, 2018 at 05:50 PM
I wonder if they'll catch the person?
✔
@AaronKatersky
Envelope containing harmless white powder addressed to Donald Trump Jr, opened by his wife, was postmarked Boston and included a note that expressed anger
Posted by: lurkersusie | February 12, 2018 at 05:53 PM
Anger?
Is there any other prog emotion?
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 12, 2018 at 06:35 PM
Lurkersusie:
Cohen said it best.
Imagine doing this to a mother of five children
These people must be stopped, jailed, put on trial and then incarcerated for the rest of their lives. They are not fit to live with civilized people.
Posted by: maryrose | February 12, 2018 at 06:38 PM
Fr last thread... the Sandy Eggo State VP reflects metastisizing tumors in the American body politic.
And as the percentage grows, as it has been nonstop since the late 80s, we draw closer to a French Revolution type ANTIFA led killing spree in a college town or even a college dense metro area like NYC.
That flashpoint will be of scale on the order of magnitude of the TWATHAT march on DC. big numbers.
The armed backlash will lead to wholesale slaughter by Americans, like me, who will not give over our country to whoremongers, thieves, carpetbaggers, political grifters, hypocritical ngo's, non- profits, planning commissions, a micro- koolaid purveyors.
MAGA!
Posted by: Kevlar Kid | February 12, 2018 at 06:41 PM
Regarding that Grassley letter to Susan Rice: I'm not sure that was a CYA from Rice. Not sure it isn't. And I do believe "memorialize" is fairly standard governmental usage, often used when contrary interpretations of directives or meetings are expected.
Is it possible Thomas Wictor's first suspicion (he was once fairly confident Rice was in with the good guys, General Flynn's crew) is on the mark and this documents Obama's duplicity (because, among other documents, there are other records indicating meetings with DOJ NSD members and FBI CID members) ???
As with my earlier deference to Comey, I'm bending over backwards here to look at the possibility she finally covered herself in glory; that she saw the madness sweeping over the Obama Administration and recognized these were multiple "bridges too far" for a National Security Advisor to traverse?
Partial Treason Timeline
https://tinyurl.com/yb3yvpr5
01/05/17 Rice, as documented on Jan. 20, meets with Obama, Biden, Jim Comey & Sally Yates
01/05/17 FBI says DNC refused to turn over server to determine nature of leaks
01/06/17 Comey briefs President-Elect Trump on existence of "salacious and unverified" Russian "Dossier"
01/06/17 Within hours of Comey's meeting with Trump, existence of "Dossier" leaked by CNN (James Clapper named as possible leaker)
01/07/17 Comey demands "Dossier" be included in final intelligence community report on Russian meddling in the U.S. election
01/12/17 DOJ IG Michael Horowitz announces probe into actions of FBI including McCabe's role in Clinton email scandal
* * *
For someone who clearly followed all of the back and forth over the DOJ OIG's frustration with the Obama Administration and his subsequent statutory victory gaining additional powers, it isn't conceivable that she ignored that January 12th announcement . . . is it?
And, Flynn had to have extensive interaction with her during the transition . . . correct?
Maybe by January 20th she either recognized the jig was up (or was convinced of same by someone like Flynn) and then determined it was time to get right with God, and her country. Thus, you decide (or are convinced) to memorialize that eMail to yourself. After all, there's now no one from the Obama Administration to be hanging around you and asking awkward questions.
Additionally, we're still looking for people who flipped, right? And she would make a good candidate to try and flip, wouldn't she?
It's just exceedingly hard to believe that *all* of these people doubled down on stupid!
* * *
Wictor, by the way, is banging this drum again:
Posted by: RattlerGator | February 12, 2018 at 06:45 PM
Hmm, who might want to harm President Trump or his family?
Kathy Griffin?
Posted by: Rocco | February 12, 2018 at 06:51 PM
Let's see ---since summer, Leftists:
nearly killed Steve Scalise, and injured ?four other representative or staff member;
broke five ribs, resulting in two episodes of pneumonia for Senator Paul;
and now terrorized the mother of five children, at a minimum.
As Kate Millet's sister put it:
Most everyone on the left is atheistic, depressed, dark and miserable, and they want us all to be miserable.
They'll settle for miserable, but they'd prefer dead.
Posted by: anonamom | February 12, 2018 at 06:54 PM
Remembering the Obama military parade
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 12, 2018 at 06:54 PM
A good start
Jonathan O'Connell
@OConnellPostbiz
Update: Trump administration plans to move one-fifth of the FBI headquarters to Idaho, Alabama and West Va. Experts dubious of the cost savings. https://mobile.twitter.com/OConnellPostbiz/status/963166694242844674
Posted by: lurkersusie | February 12, 2018 at 06:56 PM
Remember RG, I've got the COFVEVE MUG concessionveve when you get the EIB gig.
Oh, and I'm your PADUCER!!
Posted by: GUS | February 12, 2018 at 06:57 PM
From the sjw madam defarge
https://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/02/sulkowicz-wants-to-change-behavior-too.html
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 06:59 PM
RG,
I just saw Wictor's thread right before you posted your comment.
Here's Wictor's thread formatted for easier reading:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/963178377921290240.html
I am keeping an open mind about this. I guess we will find out soon enough if she came into the light or is simply covering her butt in a ham-handed way.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 06:59 PM
Rice in with the good guys?
RG, now you are in wonderland. No way. But keeping dreaming.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 12, 2018 at 07:00 PM
lurkersusie,
I suggested breaking the FBI divisions up and moving them to remote states a couple of days ago!
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 07:01 PM
Interesting assertions re Susan Rice; they would be even moreso if she's been turned to the degree of say Juanito Dean of Watergate fame.
Nail the Bath House Rat. Hang Hillary.
MAGA!
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 12, 2018 at 07:03 PM
Did anyone mention that the Obama portrait has no left thumb?
Posted by: Extraneus | February 12, 2018 at 07:04 PM
RG, sir William has a razor. That cuts all flippers out. Fewer assumptions in assuming they thought they would get away with it, and the dumber of them (aka Rice) putting a cover record down at the last minute.
EO on asset forfeiture for corruption is a very compelling stick for a flip, however that came a year later.
Posted by: henry | February 12, 2018 at 07:04 PM
Anger?
Is there any other prog emotion?
Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 12, 2018 at 06:35 PM
Uncontrollable homicidal urges toward the unborn.
Back much later. Play nice.
Posted by: Gentlejim | February 12, 2018 at 07:04 PM
The Left really doesn't want to go there. Really.
If they hate the police so much and the military with it, who would defend them? Would either obey orders even from the politburos of San Francisco, L.A. or New Orleans, say?
Watching Babylon Berlin of late, the breakdown of order happened on the streets of the major cities. I remember just outside the side door of the Bayerische Hof in Munich there is a memorial to a politician opposed to the Nazis who was assassinated on the spot in the late 20's.
Will it come to that? Listening to NPR, every story has an anti Trump angle. Stocks correct? Trump's apocalypse. Libs get spending and Republicans acquiesce? It's the undoing of Trump. Heads he loses. Tails he loses.
The media is in love with the propaganda minister of the most brutal regime in the world because Pence wouldn't recognize her nor her regime.
We have now seen one attempted assassination and a few assaults.
They have dreams of blood and glory, but I think it's not going to play out that way. Che died a fugitive and a failure and they never seem to get that.
Posted by: matt - deplore me if you must | February 12, 2018 at 07:07 PM
Israel Air Force says seized Iranian drone is a knockoff of US Sentinel
https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2018/02/12/israel-air-force-says-seized-iranian-drone-is-a-knockoff-of-us-sentinel/
Heckuva job Barry..
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 12, 2018 at 07:08 PM
So about this grishenko business
https://loadedforguccifer.wordpress.com/2018/02/12/say-hi-to-guccifer2-0/
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 07:10 PM
Check the envelope for Sid Blumenthal's or Hillary's fingerprints.
Posted by: Comanche Voter | February 12, 2018 at 07:11 PM
RG--I usually agree with you--but Rice allowed herself to be the liar in chief too many times for me to believe this one.OTOH, like Priestap, she is independently wealthy and can afford to take this risk..Hmm--No. Not ready to accept that..
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 12, 2018 at 07:13 PM
Apparently that artist has a penchant for painting pictures of black women beheading white people. Good taste, Obamas, in selecting a race baiter for your portraits. So "edgy."
Posted by: -peter | February 12, 2018 at 07:14 PM
I don't find fault with what you're saying, Clarice.
But . . . she *did* write that note to self, and it *is* incredibly damaging to Barack Obama.
Posted by: RattlerGator | February 12, 2018 at 07:15 PM
Matt--- the reason i think it *COULD* play out the ultraviolent way is the phenomenon of "accidental engagement" such as what happened with "The Guns of August" that launched the First World War.
The essential element for anarchy is to have would-be peaceful citizens *BRAINWASHED for nearly 3 Decades* incited to mass march----- with a core, and not so small group, of armed Black Shirts instigating violent rioting, which have been escalating around the country (e.g. election 2016 runup and the first 100 days.)
Police standing down, impact of #BLM, have set up tinderbox conditions. Property owners will not stand for it.
Size matters. And the Lefties here in Berkeley are stepping up their pro-anarcho rhetoric to levels I've never seen before. And the Antifa lunatics are in attendance at these gatherings where they congregate to STRATEGIZE.
Peace, matt.
Kev
Kev
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 12, 2018 at 07:17 PM
GUS, you'd make one hell of a PADUCER . . . NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, AND THEM DAMN COMMIES BETTER KNOW IT !!!
Posted by: RattlerGator | February 12, 2018 at 07:19 PM
Important point to remember:
Yep, yep.
Posted by: RattlerGator | February 12, 2018 at 07:19 PM
Speaking of snakes, Rove would love this guy:
https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/joe-manchin-meet-joe-manchin/
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 12, 2018 at 07:22 PM
Not only were the Obama portraits unveiled today. Also Hillary!
OK, it's a joke.
Hillary's official presidential portrait
https://twitter.com/hale_razor/status/963091060690796544/photo/1
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 12, 2018 at 07:22 PM
Judge Napolitano says Rice’s memo to whitewash what really happened at the Jan5th meeting.
Said Obama knew everything that was happening.
This done to cover their butts.
Posted by: maryrose | February 12, 2018 at 07:22 PM
OT - 3 officers shot (1 killed ) this weekend just south of Atlanta. Within 2 days they have raised over $100,000 for his widow. They have one small son and another due to be born any day :(
http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/fundraiser-created-to-help-family-of-murdered-locust-grove-officer
Posted by: Momto2 | February 12, 2018 at 07:27 PM
I think Judge Nap might want to take a nap on this one.
Posted by: RattlerGator | February 12, 2018 at 07:28 PM
RG, damn straight.
Posted by: Catsmeat | February 12, 2018 at 07:31 PM
.
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 12, 2018 at 07:33 PM
Vanessa Trump
Verified account @MrsVanessaTrump
7m7 minutes ago
Thank you so much for all the help today in NYC! I appreciate all the quick response to make sure that I was safe ! Thank you @FDNY @SecretService @NYPDnews @NYPDCT @NewYorkFBI
========================
DOn Jr. also posted a similar message, but I thought one was sufficient.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 07:35 PM
RG, it is possible. This woman was dumb enough to think Obama & company were competent. Life is not a spy novel filled with evil geniuses. Most people avoid facing their doom until it is too late.
Just my 2 cents, I don't know either.
Posted by: henry | February 12, 2018 at 07:36 PM
They could do worse than use tom Holland's dynasty, and probably will:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/11/martin-scorsese-romans-tv-series-caesars-british-writer-michael-hirst
Much of the commentary of the era like tacitus, Cassius dio it al, was likely biased toward the senates prorogatives
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 07:36 PM
Mark Knoller
Verified account @markknoller
4m4 minutes ago
Trump Campaign schedules next rally Feb 21 in Ambridge, PA. Will be his tenth campaign rally since taking office, and 2nd in PA.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 07:38 PM
We're in the best of hands:
https://pjmedia.com/election/4-ohio-dem-governor-candidates-speak-at-event-hosted-by-hamas-linked-muslim-group/?utm_source=PJMCoffeeBreak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=February2018
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 12, 2018 at 07:43 PM
Rice lied about Benghazi.
She lied about her role in the unmaskings
Then had to cover for it by talking to Andrea Mitchell and saying she did it.
Up to her ears in this latest scandal but looking for an exit ramp.
Posted by: maryrose | February 12, 2018 at 07:49 PM
Reince Priebus: "People like me were wrong "about Trump
(Video as well as article.)
https://truepundit.com/reince-priebus-people-like-wrong-trump-video/
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 07:50 PM
I’m just not able to give Susan Rice the benefit of the doubt on anything, really.
As far as I’m concerned, she is one of the biggest liars in DC. And similar to Jamie Gorelick in the sense that she leaves a trail of destruction in her wake everywhere she goes, yet keeps getting promoted to positions beyond her abilities.
Posted by: fdcol63 🇺🇸 | February 12, 2018 at 07:50 PM
I wish that the news would do more stories like this one:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/workers-buy-car-dad-walking-hours-work-step/story?id=53021551&cid=social_twitter_abcn
The guy was walking 3 hours to work to load trucks at UPS. He did it for his daughter, who was born just prior to him getting the job.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 08:00 PM
This was more related to the portrayal of say commodus in gladiator
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 08:02 PM
One of the althouse commenters was relating trump to a character from the lensman series, isaacson:
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 08:10 PM
Or perhaps it was samms:
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 08:18 PM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-comey-told-congress-fbi-agents-didnt-think-michael-flynn-lied/article/2648896
2 fbi agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe he lied--Comey testiomny last March
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 12, 2018 at 08:24 PM
RG: First things first. Your precision and discipline as a thinker and writer here within the JOM Pantheon have earned my highest regards. I trust your discipline as a debater too (especially when you doctor with just the right amount of cayenne pepper an arrow-point when needed.)
Having said all of this, I want to register a specific opinion about NatSec Advisor (AmbASSador my un know what) Rice's self-addressed email.
The quote by Obama regarding what "I am not saying" is such a rookie CYA statement. He follows with the second rookie CYA statement re the obvious re the FBI law enforcement supposedly going by the book.
Here's the rub, Barack. A significant number of Americans, who are not sleepwalking and numb from the shoulders up, *KNOW* for a fact that McCabe, Strozk et al changed the wording of Mr. Comey's public disclosure of Clinton's negligence to wrecklessness minus intent.
A minor point on how many people know this is wrong for cops to do. Even schoolchildren of my generation were taught to know better.
The Sisters of the Presentation who used yardsticks to enforce grammatic rules (which I don't follow to this day) reinforced the concept that one is *IMMORAL* when replacing fact with opinion in order to manipulate the laws of the land.
Back to NATSEC Advisor Rice's self-addressed stamped email in the Clearinghouse Immunity Sweepstakes.
It seems to me that Obama is attempting to suggest or insinuate--- and have Rice-a-Roni *LIE* for him at some point down the line.
Rice and her SASEmail set the stage for future obfuscation by creating an Obama fog about "what I am not saying."
So now Schiffless and the Dems may begin insisting that this latebreaking SASEmail demands further investigation at proving "what then President Obama 'was not saying.'"
To the Dems this is like my ol Uncle Fatty who had a favorite trick to get his 8 kids (all a year apart) to leave him alone when he was playing cards. He'd toss a handful of coins clear across Granpa's living room and start a free-for-all. Same deal here. Vintage Rat.
My rube radar told me when we found out that the FBI lice doctored Comey's Lie, an honest DOJ grand jury indictment would've knocked Clinton out of the race under a cloud.
Now Rice has made a move that has CYA value; not much but some given Grassley's questions (Miss Lindsay not sharp enough to have coined those).
But is it enough to sustain "plausible deniability?" Chapter and verse on how it does so I've not seen.
Occam the Razor is my guide here.
Obama spews a negative. The next step by one of his most loyal lieutenants (some have said paramour too) is to create some kind of faux journal "note to self", FBI style doctored 302 knock off, that obfuscates---and downright omits Barack Obama's intentions for SAYING so.
If I were investigating, I'd be setting up the work details to get every shred of NATSEC Rice's archives, phone records, emails, financial records and DC rolodex of law firms which protect her "privileges" not to disclose jack squat to Grassley now that he's putting his cards on the table.
I think Rice is a dead end cul de sac with lasting "...but what about the Rice email to herself where Obama is on record (joke) saying..." value.
And like any one of these top snakes, she is going to starve the oppo of credible evidence that it was the Rat's design and hers, ValJarr, Clapper, Brennan, Holder, Lynch's Comey's, Rosenstein's, Clinton's, et al's execution of Uranium One, the Clinton WhiteWash, and the FISA fiascos.
I think there will be some deals cut,but I would be stupefied if Sessions and Company settle for total immunity for only partial confessions (not everbody knew everything).
Not sure what the law says about sedition and plotting to overthrow a President, but in my limited understanding it's kind of like involved in the intent to murder("Oh Man!All I did was supply the ammo.")
Enough out of me. Just wanted you to know my thoughts directly. This makes my head hurt.
You continue to do your country proud, Sir.
Saludos eternidades,
Kevlar "Mangas Colorado" Kid
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 12, 2018 at 08:30 PM
How does York but realize strzok was sent to interrogate general flynn in the guise of a transition briefings, its his job to put these puzzles together.
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 08:31 PM
Tucker Carlson
Verified account @TuckerCarlson
19m19 minutes ago
Progressives have a long history of supporting the World's most repressive regimes... It's hard to find a dictator the left hasn't supported: Chairman Mao, Hugo Chavez, Idi Amin. What do all these people have in common? They all hate America. #Tucker @FoxNews
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 08:39 PM
Isn't it normal for a President to find out something regarding the FBI through the Attorney General? I hate to agree with RG on this but I can't think of any reason for Rice to write that except to point out Cock Curious's hands on involvement.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 12, 2018 at 08:42 PM
I followed the replies to a post about Grassley's letter to Rice earlier today.
Most were from Trump haters, and they seem to not realize the e-mail proves Obama DID know about the Russia thing and also that he might have withheld information from Trump during the transition.
Instead, they think it proves Obama's innocence, and that indictments on Trump will happen any day.
It was really weird, like I had dropped into a parallel universe.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 08:45 PM
One of these things is not like the other....
https://twitter.com/AndrewWMullins/status/963197773645598720
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 08:46 PM
I'm kinda inclined to vote with Kev on this just now, CH--But I could change my mind and pretend I was always with RG,
Let mem memorialize that...
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 12, 2018 at 08:46 PM
It was really weird, like I had dropped into a parallel universe.
Now that Katranny has broken the spell, I'm wondering which of the alphabets will drop next. She used to be on ABC's Sunday gabby roundtables (admittedly this was a long time ago) so, if that's still the case, Raddatz is probably screaming like a banshee to the producer to "cancel all future appearances of that traitorous fucking whore" between prolonged crying jags.
These are truly interesting times.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 12, 2018 at 08:55 PM
"I want this done by the book."
1. So much for an FBI and DoJ as independent agencies--independent of the executive, that is. The preezy wanted to know everything and make sure his alleged-integrity was documented. (Ugh! Obama and integrity together is disturbing.)
2. Why was Yates at the meeting and not Lynch (of the tarmac with Clinton fame)? Was Yates fluffing her bona fides to be ready for the Resistance? Was Loretta buying presents for her imaginary grandchildren?
They are all guilty.
Posted by: Frau Sicherheitsdienst | February 12, 2018 at 08:55 PM
Yates had an ongoing role to play. Lynch was out of there. Protect the mole.
Posted by: henry | February 12, 2018 at 08:58 PM
Mark your calendars--- :>) the day Miss Clarice tentatively agreed with Kev.
Ya know, this is a palace intrigue with huge implications for where we go from here (DUH?) especially during the next presidential election.
And being a lowly peon, I get a thimble full of facts each day but go to bed in the wee hours with my head spinning.
God Bless America! I must have faith because this feels like I am curled up on the floor-board of a 57 Chevy with no brakes or 2nd gear.
Kev
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 12, 2018 at 08:58 PM
Yes she signed the first fisa warrant, mccabe the second, rosenstein the third, she was running interference to effectively check sheepdog, from moving out of place.
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 09:01 PM
I read that Rice memorialized this memo on or near the last day of the Obama administration. If true, it's hardly contemporaneous (whatever that means...) and can't be taken at face value.
Posted by: Beasts of England | February 12, 2018 at 09:02 PM
These are truly interesting times.
Maybe we'll get lucky, and a few will jump off the Brooklyn Bridge.
Posted by: Buckeye | February 12, 2018 at 09:02 PM
So its seems that some of the officials that leaked to Shane Harris among others have been identified, remember I was walking back the cat a year ago.
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 09:16 PM
https://twitter.com/HNIJohnMiller/status/963227298525827072
This guys has contacted all of his artist friends for comments on the portraits. HA!
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 09:16 PM
"I want this done by the book."
1. So much for an FBI and DoJ as independent agencies--independent of the executive, that is. The preezy wanted to know everything and make sure his alleged-integrity was documented. (Ugh! Obama and integrity together is disturbing.)
Both Cock Curious and Slick were terrible executives because they didn't know how to delegate anything because they'd always been fluffed as the smartest excuse for a man in the room. Even a lib acquaintance of mine used to rail about the lack of Clenis's cabinet meetings except to lie to them about banging the intern. I'm sure Zippy was even worse.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 12, 2018 at 09:19 PM
Interesting about idi amin he was originally prowestern or at least pretended to be re UK and Israel, he came from the minority kakwa tribe in. South east Uganda, somewhat like tikriti in iraq
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 09:20 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5382899/Saudi-women-allowed-watch-football-match-time.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline
It might not seem like much, but it seems things are changing in the kingdom.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 09:22 PM
Perky Katie opens mouth, reveals she's a fool:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/winter-olympics-2018/2018/02/12/winter-olympics-dutch-mock-katie-couric-comments-speedskating-netherlands/328425002/
Posted by: jimmyk | February 12, 2018 at 09:26 PM
This guys has contacted all of his artist friends for comments on the portraits. HA!
The comments of Zippy's hands are spot on; they remind me of the late Hound Dog Taylor's who had six fingers. Plus the ear flaps have been scaled down considerably.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 12, 2018 at 09:26 PM
The hands caught my attention right away, right after the assorted flowers all blooming on the same bush.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 09:28 PM
I think that has long been astipulated.In other news:
Of course bob baer now hunting Hitler in Argentina, dumped his whole scrap on him, into a book, referring to him by a name no one uses.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/02/10-years-ago-today-someone-blew-up-hezbollah-terror-mastermind-imad-mughniyeh/
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 09:30 PM
OTOH--still writing my email to myself-Thomas Wictor says the unredacted part of the email shows Obama lied.
@ThomasWictor
3h3 hours ago
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(25) "Former President Barack Obama pledged that he did not speak with FBI directors about pending investigations throughout his presidency in a 2016 interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace."
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 12, 2018 at 09:36 PM
I think the portrait is raciss... it shows Obama "Hanging" in the vines.
:)
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma | February 12, 2018 at 09:36 PM
Chloe Kim won the Gold in snowboarding, halfpipe competition.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 09:38 PM
One of the reasons I love this board is the confident offering of contrary opinions by various contributors as we speculate about various things. So . . . KK / Clarice, in an attempt to help you "memorialize" this here thang, consider the below thread; it pays IMHO to read each tweet as food for thought. I'm definitely not alone in my possibility / probability thinking on Susan Rice (and BoE, she could have crafted it directly after that meeting and saved the draft or timed it to send on a date two weeks into the future):
I respectfully submit y'all aren't fully accepting the timeline I presented. These people had lost their damn minds, were running off of a cliff at breakneck speed, and barely blinking in the face of TREASON while continuing to charge hard. Think about that.
I'm sorry, I don't believe it unthinkable that the woman stopped, said to herself, "Ain't this a bitch!" and then concluded as follows:
"Hell no !!! Politics is one thing but treason is quite another."
Posted by: RattlerGator | February 12, 2018 at 09:41 PM
Is it possible that Obama pardoned dozens of these people before he left office, but kept the pardons secret?
Posted by: Davod | February 12, 2018 at 09:43 PM
MM--> if Rice's SASEmail both proves and exonerates The Rat, it says to me that it accomplished it's mission: obfuscation, using Rice as a human firewall, and "trivializing the momentous by complicating the obvious."
I hope and I pray, the Rice Queen doesn't drag her feet (odds are she will in my casino) answering Senator Grassley's crafty questions. Only then would I have enough detail to determine which way the wind sucks on this demoralizing and pathetic display of National decay.
Kev
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...and furthermore, it's been the question's been asked here on JOM: what would the Founders say?
I ask: what would the rebel militia have to "say" about the corruption of American political fortunes by 1000 Benedict Arnolds?
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 12, 2018 at 09:44 PM
Secret pardons? I don't think so; they've historically been very public matters. It's bad enough they exist in the first place.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 12, 2018 at 09:47 PM
I think RG may be correct. Rice is SLEAZE, any of the L.E.O.'S here probably recognize this dishonest hack, because she's not even good at lying. HOWEVER, she wrote this COMEY-ESQUE memo on her last day SERVING JUG EARS. No need to please his skinny ass anymore, nothing to gain. It's CYA for SUSIE RICE and UNDER THE BUS JUG EARS.
Don't look at me, look at him. She licked his ass for 8 years, he no longer held sway.
Posted by: GUS | February 12, 2018 at 09:47 PM
P.S. I'm not sucking up to RG to keep the COFFEE MUG CONCESSION.
Or am I?
Posted by: GUS | February 12, 2018 at 09:48 PM
Kev,
I don't know what to think about that email Rice sent. Wictor has thought for a long time that she has switched. On the other hand, she has been involved in some of the worst things Obama did.
On this one, I am simply going to watch and see what happens.
I have seen nothing yet to disabuse me of the notion that they set out to frame Trump thinking Hillary was a shoe-in, and then had to hustle to make up a reason for all of their spying and fake documents.
However, I am not locked into that either, and if things turn out differently, I am not going to go all nutso trying to prove I was right. (That's the avenue the Never Trumpers have taken.)
I will simply wait and try to be patient.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 09:55 PM
I doubt you can keep pardons secret, but I don't know for sure. They have to be registered somewhere I suspect.
Posted by: Janeprobably about 10 minutes after getting there | February 12, 2018 at 09:55 PM
You can find anything at NBC except the truth
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dhs-pushes-back-on-nbc-no-evidence-russians-manipulated-elections/article/2648823
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 09:55 PM
A "save America" memorialization would have been less vague, IMO. Especially if she was driven by a new found conscious.
This was a CYA bargaining chip between her and The Ferret and ODummy which, had Mueller done his hatchet job correctly, would have never seen the light of day.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 12, 2018 at 09:56 PM
Miss Marple the sick Thing about the RICE...Benghazi Sunday 5 TV SHOW LIE-O-RAMA, is that she DIDN'T WORK FOR RODHAM, she WORKED for OBAMA. Obama didn't have her do this FOR RODHAM.
That is a tell in ALL OF THIS. Obama had GO TO SYCOPHANTS. Rice and Power, Ben Rohdes and Slow Joe Biden.
Posted by: GUS | February 12, 2018 at 09:58 PM
...conscience.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 12, 2018 at 09:59 PM
Maybe if we knew what the redacted portions of the email said we'd be able to be more conclusive.
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 12, 2018 at 10:00 PM
The guy who painted Barry's portrait seems to be technically quite talented to me. His problem is he's demented.
The chick who did Sasquatch's is just amateurish.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 12, 2018 at 10:04 PM
Gateway quotes DeGenova saying FBI and DOJ will not release the Schiff memo as written because it would interfere with criminal investigations ongoing involving DOJ and FBI officials:http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/ex-prosecutor-reveals-real-reason-schiff-memo-blocked-fbi-doj-criminal-investigation/
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 12, 2018 at 10:05 PM
Oh for God's sake, if you could keep pardons secret Slick would have never owned up to Marc Rich. It's bad enough that this holdover from royalty was rubber stamped by the Founders, although they probably assumed, erroneously, that they would be employed sparingly when subsequent data made it clear the jury had incomplete information.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 12, 2018 at 10:05 PM
I am still upset by the terror attack (and that is what it was) on Don Jr.'s family.
This entire family should have our gratitude and our prayers. They all assumed this burden.
I can think of no other family who would have done this. The Bush's? No, they wouldn't have received this level of attack because 1. Jeb would have lost and 2. If he had won, he wouldn't have been a threat to anyone on the other side.
This family is the very definition of sacrifice. I am very grateful to them all, especially the President and Melania.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 10:06 PM
Stealth Jeff
@drawandstrike
2h2 hours ago
Replying to @vicenews
That's right, folks. When NK cheerleaders in 2005 talked about how WEALTHY South Korea is, all the FOOD that was everywhere, 21 of them were sent to a gulag.
These women are SLAVES.
Don't EVER forget that.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 12, 2018 at 10:11 PM
Westminster Dog Show starts tonight. American Eskimo is the breed of our late beloved Biscuit. I guarantee that breed won’t win but if he had ever had the opportunity to walk the green carpet at MSG, he would have stole the show. Guarantee-damn-tee it.
Posted by: lyle | February 12, 2018 at 10:11 PM
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2018/02/12/washington-post-reporter-hypes-stealth-hillary-2020-campaign God, I hope so- I hope the ticket is Hillary and Gillibrand --
Posted by: Clarice Feldman | February 12, 2018 at 10:12 PM
Ah Robert Costa, remember when we SuspecTed he was a back stabbing weasel with knives out for the tea party, good times eh
Posted by: narciso | February 12, 2018 at 10:17 PM
Clarice,
I don't know if they've given up on Kabbalah Harris as being not ready for prime time ever, or maybe just not against DJT who would ridicule her stupidity ruthlessly. Beyond that their bench smells like dirty Depends and mildew.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 12, 2018 at 10:17 PM
All right, RG: here's the benefit of the doubt after reading your post more closely. (Please understand I am not taking issue with your position, as much as I am taking issue with Rice-a-roni's behavior, intent, and patterns of past behavior.)
I missed your qualifier here when you said:" As with my earlier deference to Comey,
I'm bending over backwards here to look at the possibility she finally covered herself in glory
; that she saw the madness sweeping over the Obama Administration and recognized these were multiple "bridges too far" for a National Security Advisor to traverse?"So let's imagine her under cross on the stand: prosecutor Feldman asks--- So, NSA Rice, are you expecting us to believe that you, the official representative of the Obama administrative who was first to speak to the national "press" about the reason for the armed conflict at Benghazi, that resulted in the sodomizing and torture of an American Ambassador(the equivalent of a battlefield general, and an act of war on sovereign American soil), an act which your superiors watched on live feed, were briefed nearly moment by moment by boots on the ground regarding the desperation of each passing second, an act which you referred to as a "protest"===== are you expecting us to believe that you had a turn of conscience nearly 60 days following the defeat of Clinton and the election of a president who alleged he'd been spied upon, and who, in significant measure has had his allegation validated by revelations of FISA intel unmasking which you yourself engaged in as it was circulated to you?
Are we to "bend over backwards" to believe that your past pattern of behavior doesn't explain the present "memorializing" one re he DOJ and FBI? What about the U1 deal? Any of your fingerprints on the "memorializing" paperwork, or your hands of the reset buttons with President Vladimir Putito?"
RG---> I remain to give Rice-a-Roni a "yes" answer here. She was likely going to be a cog in the Clinton NATSEC machine. And unless the Obama insiders were aware of getting their asses beat into the ground after coming up with Manafort's "guilt" for his crimes against whom exactly, why would she move the body?
Rice is the consummate insider with the same blind spot as The Rat. She believed she was smarter than everybody--- especially Condi Rice.
I will read your comments in earnest to see if there is any yield to your efforts to theorize and postulate from the bending over backwards position. I turn things on their head. Sometimes I am fooled.... like i did with Rosy Stein, calling him a foul name in disgust, then taking it back after reading that his FISA request may not have been with malice. So I did a wait and see.
Then more came out and I of the firm opinion that he is the biggest duck in this puddle on the domestic side (because he is hiding in plain sight).
Like the ol' Spiritual says: "We will seeeee!"
Good exchanging views with you.
Time permitting I'm going to paste your next set of comments from downthread to report back on manana. My brain hurts. :>)
Respectfully-
Kevlar "Nino Cochise" Kid
PS: Can I be your EIB engineer? :>)
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 12, 2018 at 10:23 PM