Saturday Morning Open Thread

I bet there is new news to go with the Fake News and the old news.

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[centralcal]

Anybody home?

[F Hudson]

I'm here waiting for the shoe to drop on the Clinton/FBI/DOJ/CIA/FISA conspiracy

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Is this one of those threads where you can talk about anything?
Unlike all the other ones here...

[Captain Hate]

It should be disappointing to every conservative here what sellout pieces of shit the GOP litters the Senate with when it comes to immigration. Not only are they not going to construct a wall but they'll try to grant as much amnesty as possible.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Captain Hate,

There's a reason I never am attracted to presidential candidates who are senators.

[James D.]

CH, I’m not disappointed because I expect nothing better from them.

Angry, yes? Disgusted? Definitely item. Want their heads on pikes decorating the National Mall? Absolutely.

Disappointed? No.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://pagesix.com/2016/06/28/chris-cuomo-spotted-boozing-before-drag-race-car-crash/

[Jack is Back!]

Amen to that MM. They have notoriously been terrible executives even those like Nixon with prior experience as governor of California .

The Euro press led by The Times has bought the whole enchilada on Russian collusion and tampering despite Rosenstein’s denials. They are all practicing wishful-thinking until Trump can bring to justice the coup members and even that will be seen as trumped up (no pun intended).

Nice to be back in the warmth of Florida while Long Island gets pounded tonight with up to 8” of snow. It was 58F at Islip yesterday when we boarded the plane.

BTW, Frederick tells me that Cruz came to Florida from Riverhead. That is the town where Frederick’s school is located and our county seat. Anyone know if that is true. I thought it was some locale down island.

[Jack is Back!]

MM,

The Cuomo story was front page news in Southampton. I am friends with his Mom and FIL plus Frederick does surf camp with little Mario. Christina and I helped the surf camp guy stay in business after a loose coalition of surfer dudes tried to shut it down so they could have the Picnic Area surf spot to themselves.

He is as dumb as a bag of rocks.

[Jack is Back!]

CORRECTION:

Not his Mom but Cristina’s Mom. Grrrrr. Need more java.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jack,

One of the things I love about this site is that I get a glimpse of areas and lifestyles I never would know anything about.

For example, I never would know anything about arguments over a surfing spot. LOL!

Around here people fight over season passes to the Y swimming pool.

[Ralph L]

like Nixon with prior experience as governor of California .
He tried and failed. Don't think Ike gave him much executive experience.

[Janet 🚬 - I wish my family had a poncho]

from Clarice on the last thread -

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/02/mueller_worked_with_lerner_to_target_tea_party.html
The irony is that the same Robert Mueller now investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election cooperated with Lois Lerner and the IRS to intervene on President Obama's behalf in the lead-up to the 2012 presidential election.

[Neo]

Now, victim-hood is envy, viewed in the other direction.

"This is one of the biggest things I'm going to be pushing back on this year, this notion that this is somehow class warfare, that we're trying to stir up envy," Obama said. "Nobody envies rich people, everybody wants to be rich. Everybody aspires to be rich, and everybody understands you've got work hard to be successful. That's the American way." -- Barack Obama, January 27th, 2012

[Ralph L]

I'm more upset by Lee Radziwill starving herself to death.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/17/google-chrome-ad-blocking-reactions.html?__source=Twitter

Google's Chrome browser will now block all advertising on websites that serve particularly annoying ads, like autoplay videos with sound or full-page pop-ups.

However, the company's dominance of the online ads business in conjunction with the dominance of its Chrome browser also raises some thorny questions.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Here's a formatted thread by Jay Cost, who it seems has had it up to here with Joe Scarborough. I HIGHLY recommend reading it!

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/964501029940277249.html

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Will google block the ads it lives by or only those others live by?

[maryrose]

Clarice:
Great article at American Thinker.
I think there was a reason President Trump decided against Mueller for head of the FBI.
His past performance is no recommendation for the position.
He covered up his misdeeds just like Comey and projected a false image to the public of a trustworthy, honorable guy.
KK:
I have visited your state 3 times in my life.
In 1972, 1993 and in 2011.
I saw a complete change over the span of 45 years.
Are you a native of California?
I am troubled by the fact that a Tepunlican has no chance there because of the top two vote getter rule.
Sacramento and your recycled governor go to their own beat.
It is a lovely state in appearance but the people in power are not helping the citizens by screwing around with your water rights and letting so many of your forests go up in smoke.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Ignatz,

I think your question is what people are worried about.

[maryrose]

Should be Republican

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

In the interests of full disclosure I have not only never voted for a Tepunlican I also left the Tepunlican party because of that chump up in Utah, Mutt Tomney.

[Jim Eagle]

maryrose,

No need for a correction since there are probably more Tepunlican's than Republicans in California anyway.

[narcis o]

Wouldn't Mueller be bulwinkle and rosenstein rocky, or perhaps Mr. peabody and Sherman.

Yes Mueller is one of those gruntled republicans like Lawrence Walsh who threw spanners in the works, or Whitney Seymour who went after ed geese.

[N as Miss Marple]

This morning Twitter is full of baby goats with prosthetic limbs and New Zealand parrots who vandalize cars.

This is more newsworthy than Eric Erickson and Jonah Goldberg being upset that evangelical pastors aren't abandoning Trump because of the Playboy model story.

The concept of Constatine and Defender of the Faith are lost on those two morons.

[RattlerGator]

And it will attract the world players like Alstom, Odebrecht, Skanska, Technip, Saipem, China State Construction and Chiyoda especially if it goes Public Private Partnerships and private financing.

Let the good times roll:)

Posted by: Jack is Back! | February 15, 2018 at 01:41 PM

JiB, I'm trying to think through an anticipatory book proposal that revolves around my OODA Loop President column. You made the right point in your above comment; in my column, I assert INFRASTRUCTURE is the political kill shot Trump will gut the Democrats with.

However . . . the National Constructors Association ??? That has given me some trouble this morning. I don't know if I'm having a brain cramp or what but . . . did they change their name recently? I can't find much on them, and what I do find is dated.

Can you (or anyone else here) help fill in some information, please?

[DebinGA]

I'm fascinated/horrified that yesterday, with the nation still reeling over the FL school murders and surreal news that the FBI was warned about mass murderer Cruz by name and intention, that Robert Mueller chose that moment to make the nothingburger announcement that he'd charged a few Russians with election shenans. On the last thread someone suggested Mueller, while FBI director, had centralized tip-reporting to DC and assigned way too few agents to handle them. If true, what a phenomenal story that would be in light of similar mass-shootings since then.

I pray that the FL victims' parents will lead the fight to find exactly why the system in place failed them, publish names of specific culprits like "Robert Mueller"-"James Comey"-field offices/agents, and that the nation will unite in making public pariahs out of them. Attempts to cover up such malfeasance should earn prison time too imo.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

What infantile prigs.
They think they can manipulate Christians and Evangelicals as though we are these Mother Jones' caricatures whose only concern is everyone act like a choir boy.
We are actually capable of the moral calculation that a guy who may be a boor or even an unbeliever who nevertheless advances those interests most important to us is not only superior and more desirable as a leader than some antichrist like Hillary, but is also superior to a feckless believer like W who leaves office with our enemies stronger.

Hell, a muslim who ended abortion would be preferable to a useless Christian.
As Luther apocryphally said; "I'd rather be ruled by a competent Turk, than an incompetent Christian".

[narcis o]

The shooter seems so familiar to me, you know that feeling of déjà vuv.It really is a mirror universe.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--...that Robert Mueller chose that moment to make the nothingburger announcement that he'd charged a few Russians with election shenans...--

No kidding. A Rosenstein press conference over something everyone knew two years ago and the earth shattering charges are conspiracy to sock puppet?
But, foreign sock puppeteers!

[DebinGA]

My father in law, a master carpenter, belonged to the National Carpenters and Joiners (union) from age 18. "National Constructors Assoc"? - sounds hinky imo.

[narcis o]

Rupert pumpkin says they are surprised that the shooter was obsessed over race (although he seems to have committed crimethink) sex and violence, have they been blind, rhetorical?

[Rocco]

Good Morning, wasn't arming teachers part of President Trumps campaign? If every teacher in that school was trained in the use of handguns, there would have been a lot less death this time and may just deter future school shootings.

[narcis o]

Where was that school resource officer, one wonders.

[DebinGA]

I assert INFRASTRUCTURE is the political kill shot Trump will gut the Democrats with.

I've been convinced of that since Trump announced his candidacy. Vocational training in high school and beyond, followed by high paying Mike Rowe-type skilled trades jobs for men and women. Skilled welders make more than most college grads. And licensed electricians even more.

[Rocco]

If teachers don't want to carry a concealed handgun at work to protect our kids then let them quit. It might be a great way to get rid of these liberal teachers and hire more right thinking ones.

[Threadkiller]

I mostly like it, Rocco. I do worry about giving the Jamie Lee Curtis types an uzi.

[Rocco]

I gotta admit, I loved that movie!

[DebinGA]

Where was that school resource officer, one wonders.

The FL school had ~3000 students, so likely more than 1 resource officer. However, the "highly selective" Sidwell Friends School, which Chelsea Clinton and the BOzo girls attended, has 13 security officers for ~1000 students, according to their site, which is vastly more than the avg 1500 students high school's 1 or 2. And Sidwell's doors were no doubt locked and manned throughout the school day.

[RattlerGator]

Where was that school resource officer, one wonders.

Posted by: narcis o | February 17, 2018 at 10:57 AM

I have a feeling the officer did not address the threat. Perhaps the officer *couldn't* address this threat.

Perhaps.

With all of the bashing of the FBI, however, I am much more zeroed in on the school, the school district, and the Broward Sheriffs Office.

There's a very telling story here, guaranteed.

[Rocco]

Make it a federal law and when they walk out, fire them all, like Reagan did to the air traffic controllers.

[narcis o]

you know its striking how certain facts like the shooters precise ethnicity aren't interesting to
Slims pumpkin bozos et Al.

[DebinGA]

If teachers don't want to carry a concealed handgun at work to protect our kids then let them quit.

Rocco, I wish you could have been here to see my hubs, the 20 yr high school teacher-20 yr high school admin's, hilarious reaction to the "arm-the-teachers" idea. "I can just see the cops arriving, and the principal points down a hall saying, "The bad guy went that-a-way, and by the way everyone down there is armed."

[narciso]

The fake news, media echo chamber, rizzotto press, are in all full agita made, like the poison spitting dinosaur in jurassic park.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

If the bad guy went that-a-way and everyone down there was armed, he'd be lying in a pool of his own blood.
Unless he would be laying in a pool of his own blood.
I blame my teachers.

[RattlerGator]

A high of 80 degrees today; a low of 61. And the pollen has *really* begun to coat the cars here in Tallahassee.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

RG,

Association of General Contractors

https://www.agc.org/

National Electrical Contractors Association

http://www.necanet.org/

Associated Builders and Contractors

https://www.abc.org/

National Roofing Contractors Association

http://www.nrca.net/

[Rocco]

With all due respect to your husband Deb, that principle should have been pointing his gun, not his finger down the hall. If every teacher is armed, the shooter would most likely be dead before the cops arrive.

[henry]

We have snow coating our cars.

[Buckeye]

Well, I mostly agree Rocco, but Deb's hub may know better than us that the teachers are a bunch of screwups.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Rocco,

I can just see arming my sister the retired art teacher. LOL! She would do almost anything for her kids, but she is NOT one you want to give a gun to!

I prefer letting those who can assume the responsibility (and have some skill) be armed, but ALL schools should have professional security. Why hasn't this been done?

I am amazed we haven't had a terrorist attack; I can only assume terrorist sympathizers know that it would be the surest way to get every non-citizen Muslim deported, no matter their immigration status.

[DebinGA]

There are unstable teachers in every school, but the idea of a few provably stable ones getting gun training and being available in a crisis makes sense. Being a school resource officer is a plum position, good hours and little danger. Their main job is to maintain good relationships with kids so hints of trouble get reported early.

[henry]

Miss M, when I worked in DC there was a telephone book full of associations that gave money to politicians. You likely missed a couple hundred related to infrastructure. ;)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

henry,

I am sure I did. Those are the ones which came up with "national contractors association" when I searched.

I bet if I searched "construction association" or "building trades association" I would get a bunch more, not counting searching under plumbers, carpenters, roads, steel, etc.

The reason I did the search is that I didn't think "constructors" sounded correct.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Melania Trump
‏Verified account @FLOTUS
8m8 minutes ago

I encourage everyone to test the power of kindness on #RandomActsofKindnessDay. It’s an opportunity to teach our children the importance of taking care of one another.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Maeve Reston‏Verified account @MaeveReston

.@MittRomney just drove off from his event alone in a Pickup Truck

Kurt Schlichter
‏Verified account @KurtSchlichter
11m11 minutes ago

He left with all his friends

[Rocco]

Putting one or two resource officers in a school just doesn't make sense. There was one in Florida but the school is so large he wasn't effective. You can take away the guns but we all know how that turns out...more dead students. I believe in deterrence! What's the alternative?

[David, Deplorable Internet Russian Dreamer Bot]

Willowed, so bringing this over from the last thread:

Actually, Clarice (and Janet, who reposted her thought here in this thread), I think the REAL irony here is that Mueller, the same asshat who is investigating Donald Trump, was head of the FBI when they slow-walked and then buried the Uranium One investigation. Mueller shouldn't be within fifty feet of any investigation that has "Russia" anywhere in the description, unless he is the chief suspect. The idea that he is conducting the investigation just shows what an incredible bizarro-land world we live in.

David

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Rocco,

One thing I would do is make sure that the doors are locked and can only be opened from the inside, in case of fire.

At the grade school my grandkids attended, I brought this up to the principal. It was after the terrorist attacks in New York and I felt that elementary schools were prime soft targets. They instituted locked doors and a check-in at the main desk for all visitors, with someone who could see adults entering and passing by the office without doing so. I never knew for sure, but I think they had an alarm system installed by the desk, too.

[DebinGA]

the teachers are a bunch of screwups

Classroom management was never a problem for hubs, but not so many teachers. The basics - making expectations clear, being consistent in enforcing them, putting troublemakers front and center right under his nose, giving parents a heads up, etc., are beyond more than a few teachers who refuse to do anything but send students to "the office". A few teachers will even bait kids to misbehave to get rid of them. Ugh. No way such weaklings should be armed. When hubs called "the office" over a kid, they came running, knowing something clearly wrong was happening.

[David, Deplorable Internet Russian Dreamer Bot]

Ignatz, he would be lying in a pool of his own blood. Lie is an intransitive verb, and has no object. So a person lies in his own blood. Lay is a transitive verb and requires an object. Ironically, they laid the shooter down in a pool of his own blood. Subject: they, Object: the shooter.

Why yes, I am a wannabe novelist. Why do you ask?

David

[Jane]

My new name for liberals is "Russian bots". Because they are doing Putin's bidding.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

DebinGa,

My mother was a career teacher, teaching English and then eventually becoming Dean of Girls at the junior high, finishing her career as a college dean.

She was a tiny woman but she had a very authoritative voice and never had discipline problems.

In fact, when she had to make a business call from home my dad would say, "Uh-oh, girls! They'd better look out - she's using the DEAN'S VOICE!" Ha!

[Davod]

I just read What Did Comey Tell President Trump about the Steele Dossier? on NRO.

Boy. Their are some twisted never Trumpers in the comments.

Mind you. Just reading the titles of some of the NRO articles is an education in never Trumpism.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456435/rice-email-reveals-plan-dont-tell-trump-hes-being-investigatedMcCarthy's

[Rocco]

Apologies for the CNN link

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/03/politics/donald-trump-oregon-shooting-armed-teachers/index.html

[maryrose]

Deb:
Your husband uses clear expectations and common sense in his dealings with students.
Rocco:
Good ideas which now may be put into effect.
Not all teachers would be comfortable
I say make students go through a metal detector as well in these larger schools.
All groups of law enforcement let the parents and students.
I want a financial settlement like the 37 million dollar one the parents in Baltimore got and that kid was actively breaking the law.
These innocent children were attending school to educate themselves.

[maryrose]

Let them down

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

PatriotFirst
‏ @jamesirving2
9m9 minutes ago

#Olympic ratings plunge for #NBC. How is the #Trump bashing working out for yah???????

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-13/u-s-small-business-optimism-jumps-more-see-good-time-to-expand

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Linked by Mike Huckabee:

https://stream.org/why-are-you-surprised/

[RattlerGator]

Okay, MM, I'm about to head out but . . . you're saying the National Constructors Association is likely a typo -- right?

I did find an outfit with that name:

https://greatnonprofits.org/org/national-constructors-association

But all of the info was dated. It appeared to me they morphed into some other association, perhaps. That's what I wanted to clarify with JiB.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Ignatz, he would be lying in a pool of his own blood.--

What if he was telling the truth?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

RG,

Not a criticism. I just have never heard that word.

henry is no doubt right; there are probably a bazillion organizations with similar names in DC.

[henry]

Dead men tell no tales, Ig.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

This was on the same page with that link above.

"The Woman in the Ugly Rayon Blouse with the Ugly Dog"

https://stream.org/sparks-in-the-dark/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Great link, MM.

[maryrose]

Centracal:
So great to see you here.
How are you doing?

[DebinGA]

Wiping away tears, MM. Thanks so much for that lovely reminder of good in the world.

[mockmook]

This may be the first time I watch zero minutes of live/live-ish Olympics

[Frau Fehlerfreies Deutsch]

The Grammar Police: to Correct and Serve

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I think we all need to remember the good in the world. The media shoves the ugly and evil in our faces constantly.

Also, for those of you who followed him, Imperator Rex has left Twitter. I don't know why. I ran across a thread talking about it, and when I went to search for him his account no longer exists.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Cincinnatus Chili @cincinchili PRO
12 hours · in 2018 Olympics

Lindsey Vonn: I absolutely won't go to the White House

God-Emperor Trump: Your wish has been granted

=====================

Snort!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

OK, this has a video and you really have to see the whole thing. LOL!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/924096747122634752

[lurkersusie]

Hey Miss M, I found this

Andrews_Light 🙊
@Autist_Light
This was his last Video link, he was saying goodbye and I missed it. Hope to see you again Imperator Rex

We'll Meet Again - Vera Lynn
www.youtube.com

[DebinGA]

FWIW, this is a free-HBO weekend. All the Harry Potter films are there. Ditto "Hidden Figures" a remarkable movie about the pivotal part a small group of AA women played in NASA's early days, John Glenn's launch in particular. And other goodies like "Hoosiers" and "Seabiscuit".

[lurkersusie]

The left working with Putin

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/19/russia-secretly-working-with-environmentalists-to-oppose-fracking?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

[Ralph L]

Schools need Matt Lauer Memorial Buttons.

[Man Tran]

Holy small world Batman!

I was reading the article that was linked last night (MM?) about the Magellan telescope and noticed several references to the Richard F. Caris Mirror Lab at UofA. I go, hmmm. That name seems familiar. Well, duh! I knew him as Dick Caris the founder of Interface, a buddy of my measurements mentor at AZ State and the supplier of nearly every loadcell I ever bought since 1970. His shop was (is) in Scottsdale and they make the best cells on the planet. Back in 2014 he donated $20MM to UA to build the mirror lab. Now that is sweet paying forward. I still buy from them today.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/massive-earthquake-hits-britain-tremors-12042097#ICID=sharebar_twitter

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

As a Catholic (albeit a poor one) what in the heck is THIS about?

Vala Afshar
‏Verified account @ValaAfshar
2m2 minutes ago

A team of @salesforce developers and solution architects will join me at the first ever student hackathon at the Vatican — Rome Italy. 🇮🇹

120 students from 57 universities around the globe will use innovation to improve society. This will be an incredible event! @VHacks2018

[henry]

Miss M, can parishes be renamed like football stadiums? St Intel's, apse by Wheaties!

[Extraneus]

Bikinis and mud?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/02/17/actress-ellen-pompeo-challenges-laura-ingraham-fight

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

onald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
14h14 hours ago

Our entire Nation, w/one heavy heart, continues to pray for the victims & their families in Parkland, FL. To teachers, law enforcement, first responders & medical professionals who responded so bravely in the face of danger: We THANK YOU for your courage! https://instagram.com/p/BfSO1z6gpaB/

[Captain Hate]

LeBron needs to STFU about politics.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
12m12 minutes ago

Melania and I met such incredible people last night in Broward County, Florida. Will never forget them, or the evening!

[Frau Fehlerfreies Deutsch]

CH - Add Ellen Pompeo whoever *she* is.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

History in Moments‏ @historyinmoment

Francis Ford Coppola's potential cast list for The Godfather c. 1970

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVxGMkFWkAIrds8.jpg
======================
Hand-written. Pretty neat.

(Image would be too big to post here.)

[David, Deplorable Internet Russian Dreamer Bot]

What if he were telling the truth?

Then he would be not-lying in a pool of his own blood.

David

[clarice]

Can't argue with Roger:https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/biased-incompetent-fbi/
get rid of the entire top tier of the FBI they are both incompetent and biased.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Clarice,

I want a good explanation for why interviews are not recorded and we have to depend on agents' notes. And "because we've always done it that way" is not a good answer.