Somewhat surprisingly, the WaPo debunks a widely cited nightmare stat from Mike Bloomberg's gun control group. What's next, a reality-based discussion about how to deal with gun violence?
I'll say this - sort of like Nixon-to-China, Trump will have more sway on gun control than Obama. Gun control also takes Trump back to his roots as a NYC Republican, which is to say, a liberal. In 2000 he favored an "assault weapons" ban, although that whole notion is so phony I'll allow that maybe he just got himself up to speed on that issue.
A good review of the upcoming Govt Unions case at the Supreme Court:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456486/government-workers-unions-civil-rights
(NR, but these things happen)
Posted by: henry | February 16, 2018 at 12:41 PM
If he was so well known to the school, then who let him in?
It would seem the school had essentially zero security. Doors unlocked from the outside, anyone can wander in even carrying a rifle-sized case, and not be stopped or questioned. Shameful for a school that size.
Posted by: jimmyk | February 16, 2018 at 12:41 PM
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/02/15/vandal-replaces-american-flag-at-utah-high-school-with-isis-flag/
Hours of investigation! I feel safe!
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 16, 2018 at 12:41 PM
"Utah's values"?
From Mountain Meadows to Harry Reid?
Posted by: Old Lurker | February 16, 2018 at 12:42 PM
How many years had the kid been in trouble? Police coming over, kicked out of school...maybe it is President Obama's fault?
Why not?
It is ludicrous to be blaming any POTUS for the criminal acts of a mentally ill kid.
Posted by: Janet 🚬 - I wish my family had a poncho | February 16, 2018 at 12:43 PM
Digging around on the internet I find that the number of REGISTERED guns in the United States is 357 million. This does not count the illegal guns that come in over the southern border, smuggled in shipping containers, etc.
Confiscating the registered guns alone would be almost impossible. It would require hundreds of thousands of new federal agents going house to house. People would resist, lie and say they were lost or destroyed, etc. In some areas, particularly rural areas and inner cities, there would be armed resistance.
And after all of this, you would still have millions of illegal guns in circulation, most held by criminals.
It's simply an impossible task, like making divorce illegal or waving a wand and requiring everyone to eat a healthy diet.
It makes no sense and wouldn't work.
I DO think that someone who has had the police called to his hope 39 times probably shouldn't be allowed to purchase a firearm. I also think that we need better mental health services in this country.
It also seems to me that when someone makes a direct threat which is called to the attention of the FBI, perhaps someone in that high-paid agency should DO something.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 16, 2018 at 12:43 PM
DHS ammunition - where did it go - To Obama's civilian army with as large a budget as the DOD?
Posted by: Davod | February 16, 2018 at 12:43 PM
The Volstead Act worked out real well. Maybe Congress can do that with guns?
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 16, 2018 at 12:46 PM
Why didn't President Obama do something?
I guess President Obama is "obviously mentally ill". He 'literally did nothing'.
Posted by: Janet 🚬 - I wish my family had a poncho | February 16, 2018 at 12:48 PM
Miss M, WI residents own lots of guns. No registration is required here.
Posted by: henry | February 16, 2018 at 12:48 PM
On the other hand, I'm not too sad if the FBI gets tarred over this. From the WSJ:
But why wouldn't the tipster go to the local authorities? Presumably he or she did. So what about them?
Posted by: jimmyk | February 16, 2018 at 12:49 PM
fwiw:
Trey Yingst @TreyYingst
2m
SCOOP: Rod Rosenstein will announce multiple indictments during his press conference this afternoon, I'm told by two sources at the DOJ
Posted by: henry | February 16, 2018 at 12:50 PM
Well, THIS is an interesting although unverified story!
http://yournewswire.com/wikileaks-pope-benedict-deep-state/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Forced out by Soros, Obama, and Clinton. Boy-howdy if THAT turned out to be true!
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 16, 2018 at 12:50 PM
Okey Doke.
Fox News just now:
"The FBI revealed Friday that they received a tip last month that Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old accused of killing 17 people on Valentine's Day, had a gun, wanted to “kill people” and had the “potential of him conducting a school shooting.”
The FBI admitted it did not follow proper protocol as the information was not provided to the Miami field office and "no further investigation was conducted at the time."
“We are still investigating the facts. I am committed to getting to the bottom of what happened in this particular matter, as well as reviewing our processes for responding to information that we receive from the public. It’s up to all Americans to be vigilant, and when members of the public contact us with concerns, we must act properly and quickly," said FBI Director Christopher Wray."
Posted by: Old Lurker | February 16, 2018 at 12:51 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews/status/964553224652025856
More overwhelmed FBI employees, I guess. No manpower to press the right buttons..
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 16, 2018 at 12:52 PM
Old Lurker,
Coincidentally I just pulled up the FBI statement.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-statement-on-the-shooting-in-parkland-florida
Translation: they screwed up.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 16, 2018 at 12:52 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians-indicted-in-special-counsel-robert-muellers-probe.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar
The special counsel's office said Friday that a federal grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 elections.
Posted by: henry | February 16, 2018 at 12:52 PM
I think I saw that Jimmy.
It's not illegal to announce you want to shoot up a school. So cops can't go and arrest the kid. The proper remedy would be to make him undergo a psych evaluation, and kept off the street until it is done. But democrats think that is too mean.
Posted by: Jane | February 16, 2018 at 12:53 PM
How can Mueller indict Russians? Or are they simply a little ploy to act like he's doing his job.
Posted by: Jane | February 16, 2018 at 12:56 PM
MM "Translation: they screwed up."
Are we still waiting for the hard working highly competent white hat wearing agents to rear their heads and reject the bad things done at the FBI?
Just wondering.
Are they waiting for their opposite numbers in the Intel Community to go first?
Posted by: Old Lurker | February 16, 2018 at 12:57 PM
The FBI admitted it did not follow proper protocol as the information was not provided to the Miami field office and "no further investigation was conducted at the time."
What exactly is this database that the FBI used when the bail bondsman gave them the prick's name?
No dot connecting in January.
Pathetic
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 16, 2018 at 12:57 PM
Jane, maybe the ones that bought the Facebook ads for less than $1,000?
This must be his backup skull as Flynn, Manafort, Page, Popadopolous walk on FISA scamming.
Posted by: henry | February 16, 2018 at 12:57 PM
Jane, maybe the ones that bought the Facebook ads for less than $1,000?
Good grief. Can you imagine?
I'm not sure if Rush just joked about that or if he just, this second, said that is the reality.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 16, 2018 at 01:00 PM
From a gal I follow on Twitter:
Steph
‏ @steph93065
2m2 minutes ago
FBI Text Messages:
FBI: We hate Trump
Insurance policy against Trump
Trump is a danger to society
Citizen: Dear FBI, this crazy guy is going to shoot up a school.
FBI: don’t bother us, we are trying to keep people safe from Trump
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 16, 2018 at 01:02 PM
Read somewhere that he bought the gun a year ago. IIRC the 39 visits to his house occurred in the last few months.
Impounding guns from folks who have multiple police calls would have been prudent... maybe a law/procedure that x number of calls results in a court hearing and possible add to the firearm no no database?
Still preserves due process and gives locals an intervention possibility and would have gotten the firearm and prevented (other that illegal) the acquisition of another.
Just spitballing here, but seriously... 39 calls and no action? WTF?
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not your normal Grandma | February 16, 2018 at 01:04 PM
CNBC Now @CNBCnow
7m
The Mueller indictment says that the defendants allegedly, by early to mid 2016, were "supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ... and disparaging Hillary Clinton."
Posted by: henry | February 16, 2018 at 01:06 PM
I think the calls were over a 5-6 year period, Stephanie.
I don't know how they break down per year.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 16, 2018 at 01:06 PM
3 bank fraud, 5 identity theft.
nowhere does it claim they made a hill of beans worth of difference, but expect the "muh Russia" loons to swoon.
Posted by: henry | February 16, 2018 at 01:10 PM
If we can't deport all the illegal aliens because "its too difficult and would take innumerable resourses, blah, blah, blah" they why can we confiscate all 345 million legal guns? It really is silly season with the Dems and their mentally defective supporters.
This wouldn't be like a repo of a car. People with guns know how to use them. So, who would be doing the confiscating?
Posted by: Jack is Back (Again)! | February 16, 2018 at 01:11 PM
Uh oh!
"The Mueller indictment says that the defendants allegedly, by early to mid 2016, were "supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ... and disparaging Hillary Clinton."
Quick, Henry, how can JOM delete our IP addy's fast?
Posted by: Old Lurker | February 16, 2018 at 01:14 PM
Link to PDF of russian indictments.
https://t.co/LQpayZJZzJ
its all about social media and "bots"
Posted by: henry | February 16, 2018 at 01:14 PM
Too late OL, the latest push for "mental health" of gun owners was the checkmate play of the prog's 11D underwater cribbage game to disarm us all.
Posted by: henry | February 16, 2018 at 01:15 PM
In the indictment they claim that post election the group simultaneously organized both support for Trump rallies as well as Trump stole the vote rallies.
Russians being Russians..
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 16, 2018 at 01:17 PM
NEW THREAD, Losers!!!
Posted by: daddy | February 16, 2018 at 01:18 PM
Wasn't a big initiative of Cock Curious, Stedman, LoLy and that pervert who headed up Education to make it extremely difficult to expel problem children?
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 16, 2018 at 01:24 PM
Uh uh uh uh uh, the uh uh 80's called and uh uh they want their MUTT ROMBLEY back........uh uh uh
Posted by: GUS OBAMA | February 16, 2018 at 01:28 PM
Several of the firearms I own involved a purchase where a background check was required.
Does that mean they are "registered"? Beats me.
I also have 7 that were owned by long gone relatives, grandpa, dad, FIL.
Doubt if the gummint knows squat about those, and I intend to keep it that way.
"Regular guy" buys 5.56mm ammunition in 1000 round tins. Most of the guys I know have a pretty large stack of these tins.
You know the Boy Scout motto.
Posted by: Buckeye | February 16, 2018 at 01:34 PM
Threadkiller | February 16, 2018 at 12:10 PM
Thanks, TK! I can always count on you to go for the throat, LOL.
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 16, 2018 at 01:41 PM
DANGER
"supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ... and disparaging Hillary Clinton."
JUST IGNORE - ALL GOOD
has a gun, wants to “kill people” and has the “potential of him conducting a school shooting.”
Posted by: Momto2 | February 16, 2018 at 01:54 PM