Quinta Jurecic of Lawfare has gory details behind the soon-to-be-seen Republican memo on alleged FBI FISA abuse.
There is a fractal principle in play here. Washington politics looks dreadful at a distance and similarly dreadful up close.
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James Comey Verified account @Comey
All should appreciate the FBI speaking up. I wish more of our leaders would. But take heart: American history shows that, in the long run, weasels and liars never hold the field, so long as good people stand up. Not a lot of schools or streets named for Joe McCarthy.
Is this an admission that not a lot of schools or streets will be named for James Comey?
Posted by: sbw | February 02, 2018 at 10:18 AM
Maybe the memo should be released to Savanah Guthrie and no one else. She is an expert at verification.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 02, 2018 at 10:18 AM
According to the Horde, Romney is joining Robby Mook and Crowdstrike to "secure our elections". Even I didn't anticipate how low that asshole would get.
Allying with the people who slandered him (and his wife) against the people who supported him in 2012. What a pathetic, treasonous, worthless sack of shit he is. And that’s me being measured and polite.
Posted by: James D. | February 02, 2018 at 10:19 AM
American history shows the FBI sent a letter to Martin Luther King urging him to kill himself. What a maroon!
Posted by: Rocco | February 02, 2018 at 10:20 AM
There isn't a jury in the world that will convict that father of anything.
I would. He put his children in harms way to pursue the Olympics fools gold and expects me to treat him like he's better than any Hollywood parent raising a train wreck? Sorry, he's a terrible parent to me.
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone | February 02, 2018 at 10:21 AM
Anyone else frantically refreshing like me?
Posted by: Rocco | February 02, 2018 at 10:21 AM
I'm too busy refreshing to answer you, Rocco.
:-)
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 02, 2018 at 10:24 AM
Waiting on a positive Kiwi update.
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone | February 02, 2018 at 10:36 AM
Latest water cooler fantasy on memo from ZH. Repeats the "Trump wants to fire Wray and Rosenstein" meme.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-02/john-kelly-thinks-claims-about-fisa-memo-are-overblown
Posted by: henry | February 02, 2018 at 10:36 AM
This article supports Thomas Wictor's observations:
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/dont-ignore-kushners-quiet-mideast-gains-24256
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 02, 2018 at 10:37 AM
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Posted by: Janet 🚬 | February 02, 2018 at 10:47 AM
It's not meant to be a reasonable comparison. It's hyperbole meant to illustrate that not everything has to pass through the prism of the birther lens, that Joe Arpaio, while possessing some admirable qualities possesses not a few less than admirable ones and that not every reporter who didn't jump on the birther hobby horse has to have the wheels busted off their little red wagon in their subsequent reporting on other subjects.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 02, 2018 at 10:49 AM
John Kelly Thinks Claims About FISA Memo Are Overblown
Posted by: Extraneus | February 02, 2018 at 10:50 AM
HEH Tk, I feel like a kid waiting for Santa!
Posted by: Rocco | February 02, 2018 at 10:50 AM
We may be waiting until Monday, gang.
David Martosko has a thread explaining the why:
https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/959451772665434113
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 02, 2018 at 10:52 AM
CubsFan2019 @DMasonGM
@dmartosko Trump will release the memo at the Super Bowl halftime show. He will be lowered down from the ceiling with the 4 sheets of paper in his mouth
7:48 AM - 2 Feb 2018
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 02, 2018 at 10:54 AM
He put his children in harms way to pursue the Olympics fools gold
It is impossible to have kids involved in serious or even sorta serious sports or music or anything really without leaving them alone with coaches & teachers.
Really...even letting your kid play at a friend's house is a risk because you don't REALLY know their parents. You can't control whoever comes in THAT house while your kid is there.
We all depend on most people not being perverts.
Posted by: Janet 🚬 | February 02, 2018 at 11:02 AM
I wish they'd release it now. I actually called in some favors in order to work from home today anticipating I would get to watch some meltdowns.
Posted by: Bubarooni | February 02, 2018 at 11:02 AM
I love these Zerohedge headlines;
"Core Capital Goods Orders Tumble Most Since...
...Sept 2016"
Guess it gets more clicks than;
"Core Capital Goods Orders Declined the Most Since Less Than a Year and a Half Ago."
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 02, 2018 at 11:05 AM
Has TK read those HousatonicITServices twitter threads that RG posted on the other page at around 9:26 or so?
Especially, the part about Strzok's uncle a Jesuit priest working in Kenya in 1988 and the theory he found Obama and set him up as a lawyer in Chicago:)
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 02, 2018 at 11:05 AM
While we are waiting, here is some local news that's pretty neat.
http://cbs4indy.com/2018/02/02/indianas-very-own-ice-tree-family-continues-cool-winter-tradition/
The video gives you the scale of the ice tree. It's located about 5 miles from my house.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | February 02, 2018 at 11:06 AM
The great Leon Panetta:
When the DoJ and FBI have to take orders from the president, as opposed to the other way around, that's a constitutional crisis, says the great man.
https://pjmedia.com/blog/liveblogevent/fridays-hot-mic-44/entry-223069/
Posted by: Extraneus | February 02, 2018 at 11:15 AM
that not every reporter who didn't jump on the birther hobby horse
The reporters worked to undermine the hobby horse.
Same as the memo.
Posted by: Threadkiller | February 02, 2018 at 11:16 AM
Groundhog Day update... He saw his shadow. 6 more weeks of waiting for The Memo?
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 02, 2018 at 11:17 AM
I counted the top headines at Memorandum, the first 14 of which were about the memo, all of them negative.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 02, 2018 at 11:17 AM
FWIW Trump insider guy from Reddit during the campaign says today.
Also says Wray will resign shortly after release and Rosenstein will be fired.
We shall see. I’ve wondered how “insider” he is lately.
Posted by: Another Bob | February 02, 2018 at 11:19 AM
don't forget panettas own soviet ties in the 80s as well:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/11/ishmael-jones-panettas-betrayal.php
Posted by: narciso | February 02, 2018 at 11:20 AM
If Rosenstein is fired, Rachel Brand takes over as Mueller's supervisor.
With McCabe gone, who takes over if Wray is out?
Posted by: Extraneus | February 02, 2018 at 11:22 AM
remember my reservations about panetta from the outset
http://www.wnd.com/2011/06/312429/
Posted by: narciso | February 02, 2018 at 11:23 AM
that's an interesting question, bowditch hasn't been confirmed yet, but he'd be acting deputy,
Posted by: narciso | February 02, 2018 at 11:24 AM
He should have waited for the memo instead:
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/02/02/waterfowl-hunter-hit-by-dead-goose/
Posted by: henry | February 02, 2018 at 11:24 AM
Not the same as the memo. Anyone who didn't buy into the birther debate whole hog is either discredited now when they're undermining something like the memo or they're discredited now because they aren't trying to undermine something like the memo.
It was quite possible for people of reasonable and rational good faith in all walks of life, like Kimberly Strassel for instance, to disagree on the birther stuff without having been participating in a whitewash or coverup.
And I'm not sure relentlessly reminding everyone that a credible journalist, one of the few, wasn't on board with the birther claims has a useful point.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 02, 2018 at 11:27 AM
Ext, some speculation that Scott Pruitt moves over from EPA to tske AG when Sessions resigns/gets fired (which is also rumored).
Have heard nothing about a replacement FBI Director. Brand?
Posted by: Another Bob | February 02, 2018 at 11:28 AM
SEan Hannity is at it again...tick tock next hour.
Posted by: Sue | February 02, 2018 at 11:28 AM
It is impossible to have kids involved in serious or even sorta serious sports or music or anything really without leaving them alone with coaches & teachers.
He had THREE children exposed to that pervert. Sorry but either he and his wife didn't teach the children what was bad behavior or they didn't listen to them. I have experience in which one of my children was in a bad situation and she knew to call me and get her out of it. I don't expect a Medal of Honor on child raising for that but I'm going to be extremely judgemental on someone who doesn't meet that standard. And making a spectacle in the courthouse doesn't win him any points.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 02, 2018 at 11:30 AM
" As a historian, I cannot find a SINGLE episode in any democratic country's history where the so-called "news" media almost uniformly and with vile hatred sided with the established state against the people."
What about the German Democratic Republic?
Posted by: Davod | February 02, 2018 at 11:31 AM
John Roberts now reporting it’s in the pipeline.!
Posted by: Sue | February 02, 2018 at 11:34 AM
Thought experiment;
If the USA and China engaged in a limited nuclear exchange in which only a few hundred thousand on each side were killed would TK remind us it was nothing compared to back when a sitting sheriff said something about something or other and...birther!
Absolutely, however I actually hope TK is completely vindicated, and Zero gets the......
Hmmm, better keep that to myself, don't want guys with earbuds and black suits showing up at my front door:)
Posted by: Buckeye | February 02, 2018 at 11:35 AM
So Trump has the SOTU win, a 49% approval (see Drudge), and now the memo.
We'll hear a lot about the Olympics on Sunday morning.
Posted by: henry | February 02, 2018 at 11:37 AM
Herschel Walker: Players Received 'Hush Money' From NFL to Stand for Anthem
Posted by: Extraneus | February 02, 2018 at 11:39 AM
We'll hear a lot about the Olympics on Sunday morning.
Chris Wallace should be more pinch faced than usual.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 02, 2018 at 11:41 AM
What does that mean Sue?
I just spent an hour and a half watching Kethy Lee Griffin, and Samantha somebody looking for a headline.
Whose calculation was it to wait until friday afternoon? How long is that pipeline?
Posted by: Jane | February 02, 2018 at 11:43 AM
Assuming it’s about to be released.
Posted by: Sue | February 02, 2018 at 11:44 AM
approved and sent with no redactions.
John Roberts @johnrobertsFox
10m
Sources tell @FoxNews the White House is in the process of transmitting the FISA memo and letter from the President back to HPSCI. Release should be a little later today.
Posted by: henry | February 02, 2018 at 11:45 AM
Tom Bowler, if you don't think Obama is in danger of indictment this tweet thread below raises serious questions in my mind.
RG when you get back,
It's not that I think Obama isn't innocent. In fact, I think he's corrupt as hell. I just don't think the political climate will allow a prosecution of him without blood in the streets. Sorry state of affairs, I know. But I think neither he nor Hillary will be charged due to the political repercussions.
I'm OK with that, as long as we get a significant roster of high level FBI and DOJ criminals indicted, convicted, and jailed. It must be clear to incoming luminaries that there is heavy price to be paid for politicizing our federal law enforcement.
Now I'm off to see about a tire with a slow leak. I hate it when that happens.
Posted by: Tom Bowler | February 02, 2018 at 11:45 AM
Drudge says it's released.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 02, 2018 at 11:47 AM
Didn’t the judge who approved the FISA warrant step down?
Posted by: Sue | February 02, 2018 at 11:48 AM
Yeah, Drudge says that, but no link.
Posted by: henry | February 02, 2018 at 11:49 AM
Release the Kraken!
er, ummm...
the memo.
oh what the heck.
Chose the form of your destructor!
Posted by: Bubarooni | February 02, 2018 at 11:49 AM
I may be wrong but I don't think we know who approved FISA warrents yet. The judge who took Flynn's guilty plea recused himself from the Flynn case. Same judge also happens to be a FISA court judge.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 02, 2018 at 11:50 AM
Catherine Herridge says it's released.
Posted by: anonamom | February 02, 2018 at 11:51 AM
So far I’m not seeing how this damages national security.
Posted by: Sue | February 02, 2018 at 11:53 AM
Thanks Ext.
Posted by: Sue | February 02, 2018 at 11:54 AM
Happy Memo Day!!
~ ~ ~
Great news about your son, Miss Marple! :)
Posted by: Beasts of England | February 02, 2018 at 11:55 AM
Byron York: More House Intel memo key point: The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.
Posted by: Sue | February 02, 2018 at 11:55 AM
Supposed contents of memo:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-intel-memo-released-what-it-says/article/2647937
Posted by: henry | February 02, 2018 at 11:55 AM
Still not seeing how national security is damaged.
Posted by: Sue | February 02, 2018 at 11:57 AM
Sue, if anything national security is enhanced through release of this memo.
Posted by: henry | February 02, 2018 at 11:58 AM
So, is there any possibility JMcC is not as sick as reported, but is "on the run"? He & Comey & Clinton --along with henchman Simpson, Blumenthal and Ohr--Brennan ..were all working to preserve Obama (Ayers-SOROS-MB-NBC honchos) fake legacy , Amirite?
The Brits, Russians, Iranians, Aussies, Germans were working with Obama/Comey/Brennan cabal of minimizing USA
The French, Israelis, Saudi Arabia, India all helped Trump & Rogers ..
Posted by: glenda | February 02, 2018 at 12:00 PM
Hey I used the term MS13NBC last week!!!
Posted by: GUS | February 02, 2018 at 12:01 PM
For you anglophiles out there, Queen Elizabeth's Secret Agents, episode 1 is now available from PBS for streaming. First episode is the execution of Mary Queen of Scots.
http://www.pbs.org/video/episode-1-svy29l/
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 02, 2018 at 12:01 PM
Congrats on the positive news, Miss Marple.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 02, 2018 at 12:01 PM
It's an existential threat to our banana republic, Sue.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 02, 2018 at 12:02 PM
There needs to be something not reported yet. Because do far, it’s only damaging to a few people.
Posted by: Sue | February 02, 2018 at 12:05 PM
NEW THREAD!,!
Posted by: daddy on iPad | February 02, 2018 at 12:06 PM
New thread

Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 02, 2018 at 12:07 PM
Imagine the information we would all be receiving if there was no Byron York, Kimberley Strassel, Sara Carter or Sheryl Attkinson?
We'd all be agreeing with DuDa. Actually, there would not reason for him to even show up here.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 02, 2018 at 12:10 PM
All those within the Clinton campaign who lied to the FBI about knowledge of the dossier should and must be charged with "Obstruction of Justice"
This is by far worse than anything Scooter Libby did with "Ms Flame"
Posted by: Neo | February 02, 2018 at 01:09 PM
Question:
When did Robert Mueller learn about the origins of the "Steele dossier" ?
Who on his staff knew before him ? .. and when ?
Posted by: Neo | February 02, 2018 at 01:13 PM
If Comey hadn't been fired, none of what we know now would ever have seen the light of day.
At best, Mueller would have reported "no collusion" and a few "process crimes".
Of course, the one thing that comes up in the clearance process, the ability to be blackmailed would still be in play. Imagine the Russians blackmailing the head of FBI counter-intelligence.
Posted by: Neo | February 02, 2018 at 01:23 PM