The Republicans in Illinois-3 managed to draw some ghastly headlines which will be fodder for late night comedians and Paul Krugman. The NY Times manages a bit of fairness and balance:
Denounced by His Party as a Nazi, Arthur Jones Wins Illinois G.O.P. Congressional Primary
Say what?
Arthur Jones, a Holocaust denier described as a Nazi by the Illinois Republican Party, won the Republican primary on Tuesday in the state’s Third Congressional District, a heavily Democratic district that includes part of Chicago and its suburbs, according to The Associated Press.
Mr. Jones, 70, unsuccessfully sought the nomination five times before, and his victory on Tuesday was a foregone conclusion after the Republican Party failed to draft another candidate to enter the race against him.
The Times coverage is decent but overlooks a lot. The short version is this: the incumbent, Dan Lipinski, is a pro-life anti-ObamaCare Blue Dog Democrat who was locked in a near-death struggle with a progressive challenger. The Nazi, Jones, had been kept off the ballot in cycles past by the invocation of technicalities. So the plan was to DQ Jones and let Republican crossover voters in the primary keep Lipinski alive. Since Lipinski won, barely, that part of the plan succeeded.
In 2016, for example, the Republican Party also failed to run a conventional candidate. Jones was the only one to submit signatures but the party managed to disqualify him to keep him off the primary ballot. They had the same plan for 2018 but Jones outmaneuvered them with a last-minute filing:
How did this happen? Jones, a perennial candidate, snookered the GOP.
Nobody else ran as a Republican in the primary because politics is a results-oriented business and the chance of a Republican winning are slim. The boundaries were drawn by Democrats to elect a Democrat. Rep. Dan Lipinski, the incumbent, will face Marie Newman in the Democratic primary, and one of those two will win on Nov. 6. There are other Democratic strongholds in the Chicago area featuring a lone Republican. It can be a Maytag repairman-like assignment.
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Jones, who campaigned for the same seat in the 2016 primary, was removed from the ballot that year after the Illinois Republican Party found paperwork errors and filed a successful objection to his candidacy with the state Board of Elections. The GOP tried to do the same this election cycle, but Jones had cleaned up his paperwork. He also appears to have kept a low profile, collecting signatures to meet eligibility requirements by going door-to-door and then waiting until the Dec. 4, 2017, deadline to file. If only others had noticed.
And beyond that, Republicans were backing Blue Dog Democrat Dan Lipinski against a progressive opponent.
If [challenger] Newman decides to run in 2020, she’d be the favorite in the race. This cycle, an actual neo-Nazi ran unopposed in the GOP primary in the 3rd District. Because the state has an open-primary system, Republican voters in the district could have chosen to vote in the Democratic primary and back Lipinski. (The irony of a Bernie Sanders-backed candidate losing thanks to crossover votes in an open primary was not lost on Twitter.)
Sophia Olazaba, a field manager for the Newman campaign, said she doesn’t doubt that some Republican voters crossed over. “Even when we were canvassing, a lot of homes have had both Jeanne Ives and Dan Lipinski signs, so those people could have crossed over,” she said, referring to the GOP gubernatorial candidate whose entire campaign was premised on her opposition to legal abortion.
Another volunteer, Sabrina Ithal, also from the 3rd district, mentioned that the open primary format could have actually worked in their favor: “I converted quite a few Republicans who voted Democrat for the first time in 30-40 years today.”
The Susan B. Anthony List, a group that opposes legal abortion, made re-electing Lipinski a major priority, dumping big money into the race and working the ground to get out the anti-abortion vote on his behalf.
So the Republicans had a strategy - leave their primary line open, disqualify Jones if he showed up (a timeless Illinois ploy familiar to Obama fans and foes) and hope their voters kept Lipinski afloat. And it could have worked, just as Virginia could have advanced in the NCAA tournament.
But Jones stayed under the radar while gathering signatures, didn't flaunt his views, and filed on the last day. Ooops! From The Atlantic:
And just as the Illinois Republicans failed to find a challenger for Jones, another safeguard of the political system seems to have broken down, as well: The state’s ballot-access guidelines, which Mooney told me are intended to “limit the fringe element from cluttering up the ballot,” required Jones to get the signatures of 603 registered voters. I spoke with multiple people who signed Jones’s petition, and they were shocked to learn they had supported the candidacy of a former Nazi. “I probably just signed it because he asked me to,” said 63-year-old Linda Florczak-Wieser of LaGrange when I called her on Wednesday. Another voter from nearby Worth said she didn’t even recall signing the petition in the first place. And when I asked 93-year-old Alice Brunell how she felt about Jones’s views, the Bridgeview resident replied incredulously, “I didn’t know that!”
The peril and promise of these ballot access rules is that ordinary registered voters are empowered - the party bosses cannot unilaterally dismiss reform minded, "rage against the machine" candidates like in the good old days. On the other hand, sometimes shit happens.
It's easy to be an ex-post genius, but suppose the Republicans had run their own candidate but, because their energy and money was with Lipinski, the Nazi won anyway? Really bad.
Or suppose the Republicans opposed the Nazi, put some effort into it, and managed to see both Lipinski and the Nazi lose. Will that be helpful this November?
The local Republicans had a plan that could have worked perfectly but didn't. That doesn't mean the alternative plans didn't also have paths to poor results.
Apparently Republicans will muster a write-in sacrificial lamb for the November vote. And Krugman, Oliver and the other progressive entertainers will have their fun.
I like Quebec much better.
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 03:25 PM
I am getting #MeToo/Roy Moore vibes off this Facebook story.
Zuckerberg takes one for the team so that Trump/Republicans/conservatives can be taken down later.
Am I way off?
Posted by: Porchlight | March 21, 2018 at 03:26 PM
Me too, Ext. The old part of the city around the Frontenac and Plains of Abraham is very nice.
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 21, 2018 at 03:27 PM
Porch, if they replace Zuck with Sandberg it is a major lurch to the left.
Posted by: henry | March 21, 2018 at 03:30 PM
Am I way off?
No but it has as much chance of succeeding as Wile E. Coyote's ACME products.
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 21, 2018 at 03:30 PM
From T_D:
Posted by: Porchlight | March 21, 2018 at 03:31 PM
Trump would kick Joe Biden's ass in 3 seconds.
Posted by: daddy | March 21, 2018 at 03:35 PM
The moonbats are foaming at the mouth.
Steyer ‘Need To Impeach’ Town Hall Frequently Took Aim at Democrats
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 03:35 PM
Trump's 'impeachment and removal' focus of Harvard Law class
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 03:38 PM
It is nice to walk up Mont Royal in the summer.
Posted by: rse | March 21, 2018 at 03:38 PM
>>>I am getting #MeToo/Roy Moore vibes off this Facebook story.
Zuckerberg takes one for the team so that Trump/Republicans/conservatives can be taken down later.
Am I way off?
Posted by: Porchlight | March 21, 2018 at 03:26 PM<<<
not following?
Posted by: rich | March 21, 2018 at 03:40 PM
and I just had a long comment vanish into the either ... and usually I'll copy before hitting post, but not this time ... damn it.
Posted by: rich | March 21, 2018 at 03:41 PM
L'Enfant's urban layouts can be seen when you look at Paris.
Porchlight,
Going out to the TPC to watch Phil and the Gang?
Posted by: Jim Eagle | March 21, 2018 at 03:41 PM
Note from Chitown:
Tell Porch that Zuck only IPO’d 10% Of ownership.
He ain’t going nowhere.
Posted by: henry | March 21, 2018 at 03:43 PM
ether ... yikes. more covfefe ...
Posted by: rich | March 21, 2018 at 03:43 PM
Sadly, I’ll have to take someone else’s word on the comparative charms of Montreal vs Quebec as I’ve only been to one locale.
Posted by: lyle | March 21, 2018 at 03:43 PM
couldn't the board fire him henry?
Posted by: rich | March 21, 2018 at 03:45 PM
rich, he could vote his own replacement of the board with 90% of the stock (or at least 1 share over 50%). The board works for him, he is the shareholders by majority vote.
Posted by: henry | March 21, 2018 at 03:47 PM
Ralph-did you see that Joseph Stiglitz spoke at Davidson on March 16 on Globalism, Inequality, and Capitalism"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UhV_9EQ6Dw
I swear Carol would get uncle karl there too if he was still alive.
Stiglitz comes up a lot in my work as his is the vision tied to Dignity for All by 2030.
Posted by: rse | March 21, 2018 at 03:48 PM
A stiglitz quote from the lecture.
"You can’t rerun history, but what you can do is understand the laws that got us where we are – and let’s rewrite those.”
Posted by: rse | March 21, 2018 at 03:49 PM
If Trump and Biden have a fight, both will win, bigly. I mean, Trump is into deals, where everything is win win. And the result of the negotiation is that both parties will get a chance to describe how it all came out.
Posted by: Appalled | March 21, 2018 at 03:51 PM
I didn't think "take one for the team" meant that Zuckerberg went away. I understood it to mean that he was willing to be shamed if it meant that the GOPe enters their how to lose denounce strategy.
But I don't know my glad from my gleeful...
Posted by: Threadkiller | March 21, 2018 at 03:55 PM
henry-
thanks. But don't forget that Sterling owned the Clippers for 33 years until he didn't.
Posted by: rich | March 21, 2018 at 03:57 PM
Zuckerberg Issues Statement On Cambridge Analytica: "We Made Mistakes"
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 03:57 PM
Biden is a blowhole. No great athlete I’ve ever known ever felt the need to tell people, “I was a pretty good athlete and I’ve been in a lot of locker rooms.”
Posted by: lyle | March 21, 2018 at 03:58 PM
TK-
so he is holding himself out for a Maoist criticism session?
Posted by: rich | March 21, 2018 at 04:00 PM
A fake one, rich.
Posted by: Threadkiller | March 21, 2018 at 04:05 PM
"But don't forget that Sterling owned the Clippers for 33 years until he didn't."
Don't know the story on that, but owning a sports team which is a subset of a greater league which has its own rules about who owns teams and who sells them and to whom is one thing.
Owning 90% of the shares of a C Corp is much different.
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 21, 2018 at 04:06 PM
CH, I saw the Levin YouTube you posted a couple of days ago. He is dead on.
Posted by: Threadkiller | March 21, 2018 at 04:07 PM
Lule. "Biden is a blowhole"
Wrong end of the whale, seems to me.
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 21, 2018 at 04:07 PM
Lule? Sorry Lyle.
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 21, 2018 at 04:08 PM
No worries.
Posted by: Lule | March 21, 2018 at 04:11 PM
It's been years since I was in Ottawa, but I liked it. The old part of Montreal might be charming in summer. In winter--no.
Posted by: clarice | March 21, 2018 at 04:13 PM
Common Naval Academy Plebe Knowledge:
Naval hero killed in duel
U.S. Navy officer Stephen Decatur, hero of the Barbary Wars, was mortally wounded in a duel with disgraced Navy Commodore James Barron at Bladensburg, Maryland. Although once friends, Decatur sat on the court-martial that suspended Barron from the Navy for five years in 1808 and later opposed his reinstatement, leading to a fatal quarrel between the two men.
Born in Maryland in 1779, Stephen Decatur was reared in the traditions of the sea and in 1798 joined the United States Navy as a Midshipman aboard the new frigate, United States. That year, he saw action in the quasi-war with France and in 1799 was commissioned a Lieutenant. Five years later, during the Tripolitan War, he became the most lauded American naval hero since John Paul Jones.
In 1801, President Thomas Jefferson ordered U.S. Navy vessels to the Mediterranean Sea in protest of continuing raids against U.S. ships by [Muslim]pirates from the Barbary states -- Morocco, Algeria, Tunis, and Tripolitania. Sustained action began in June 1803, and in October the U.S. Frigate Philadelphia ran aground near Tripoli and was captured by Tripolitan gunboats. The Americans feared that the well-constructed warship would be used as a model for building future Tripolitan frigates, and on February 16, 1804, Stephen Decatur led a daring expedition into Tripoli harbor to destroy the captured vessel.
After disguising himself and his men as Maltese sailors, Decatur's force sailed into Tripoli harbor and boarded the Philadelphia, which was guarded by Tripolitans who were quickly overpowered by the Americans. After setting fire to the frigate, Decatur and his men escaped without the loss of a single American. The Philadelphia subsequently exploded when its gunpowder reserve was lit by the spreading fire. Famed British Admiral Horatio Nelson hailed the exploit as the "most bold and daring act of the age," and Decatur was promoted to Captain.
In August 1804, Decatur returned to Tripoli Harbor as part of a larger American offensive and emerged as a hero again during the Battle of the Gunboats, which saw hand-to-hand combat between the Americans and the [Muslim] Tripolitans.
In 1807, Commodore James Barron, who fought alongside Decatur in the Tripolitan War, aroused considerable controversy when he failed to resist a British attack on his flagship, the Chesapeake. Decatur sat on the court-martial that passed a verdict expelling Barron from the Navy for five years. Thus began the dispute between Decatur and Barron that would end 13 years later on the dueling grounds in Maryland.
In the War of 1812, Decatur distinguished himself again when, as Captain of the USS United States, he captured the British ship of war Macedonian off the Madeira Islands. Barron, meanwhile, was overseas when his Navy expulsion ended in 1813 and did not return to the United States to fight in the ongoing war with England. This led to fresh criticism of Barron from Decatur, who later used his influence to prevent Barron's reinstatement in the Navy.
In June 1815, Decatur returned to the Mediterranean to lead U.S. forces in the Algerian War, the second Barbary conflict. By December, Decatur forced the Dey [Muslim military ruler] of Algiers to sign a peace treaty that ended American tribute to Algeria. Upon his return to the United States, he was honored at a banquet in which he made the very famous toast: "Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong!" I guess President Trump read Decatur's bio. Good for him - MAGA!
Appointed to the Navy Board of Commissioners, Decatur arrived in Washington in 1816, where he became a prominent citizen and lived a satisfying life politically, economically, and socially. In 1818, however, dark clouds began to gather when he vocally opposed Barron's reinstatement into the Navy. The already strained relations between the two men deteriorated, and in March 1820 Decatur agreed to Barron's request to meet for a duel. Dueling, though generally frowned on, was still acceptable among Navy men.
On March 22, at Bladensburg, Maryland, Decatur and Barron lifted their guns, fired, and each man hit his target. Decatur died several hours later in Washington, and the nation mourned the loss of the great naval hero. Barron recovered from his wounds and was reinstated into the Navy in 1821 with diminished rank.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | March 21, 2018 at 04:22 PM
Victoria, BC is also quite charming.
Posted by: lyle | March 21, 2018 at 04:26 PM
I you want old world, St. John's Newfoundland qualifies. Its like going back in time to the 1950's:)
Posted by: Jim Eagle | March 21, 2018 at 04:28 PM
What TK said.
Zuckerberg admits guilt in exchange for Dems being able to weaponize Republicans' perfectly legal data purchases against them. And of course we will not be talking about Democrats' data purchases.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 21, 2018 at 04:33 PM
Thanks to daddy for a very nice recap of our lunch. What he didn't mention was that about 15 Japanese business people came in with an American and all sat at a big table near us. I surmise they were visiting Eli Lilly's headquarters, which is 3 blocks from the deli.
I paid for eating that coconut cream pis, as when I got hom I did a few bits of housework and then conked out in a carb overload nap and only woke up about half an hour ago! I haven't done that in years!
Furthermore, the dogs wanted out so I opened the patio door and the 4 inches of snow is almost completely gone and the temperature is approaching 50! It's like a time warp or something! The dogs, who were out this morning (including Maggie, who came in covered with snow and had to be dried off) looked totally confused!
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 04:33 PM
Even my lefty boss was saying today that the criticism of Cambridge Analytica was stupid and that he has always assumed as a matter of course that any data he provides to social media (or to just about anyone else) is for sale to anyone willing to pay for it.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 21, 2018 at 04:36 PM
Victoria, BC is also quite charming.
Yes it is Lyle, although Jr. might beg to differ.
We went there once after checking out ManTran's place on the rock island. Kids were 13 and 10 if memory still works.
Stayed in a downtown hotel that had an indoor pool. Buckeyette challenged her brother to a race and the fun began.
She snitched his goggles and had him at a disadvantage. He mis-timed a flip and smacked the wall. He has had a chipped tooth ever since:)
Posted by: Buckeye | March 21, 2018 at 04:40 PM
home early from work due to the four'easter. Someone please help me stop eating Matzohs.
Posted by: -peter | March 21, 2018 at 04:45 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/21/meredith-decides-to-explore-sale-of-time-sports-illustrated-fortune-and-money.html
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 04:47 PM
Chad Pergram
Verified account @ChadPergram
GOP LA Sen John Kennedy on what he thinks of the omnibus bill:
"This is a Great Dane-sized whiz down the leg of every taxpayer..Everyone who participates in this process ought to put a bag over their heads."
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 04:50 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-fired-fbi-official-authorized-criminal-probe-sessions/story?id=53914006
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 04:56 PM
Should have bolded "operatives" in the first paragraph, since they're talking about the ambassador.
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 04:57 PM
ABC News is a fever swamp.
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 05:00 PM
I could go ahead and stipulate that pretty much any Canadian city would be nicer to visit in the summer rather than the winter. ❄️
Posted by: lyle | March 21, 2018 at 05:14 PM
The Governor of MS sure has some nerve calling McDaniel an opportunist while he supports a candidate who is a former Dem that became a Repub after the Tea Party wave.
Posted by: gentlejim | March 21, 2018 at 05:15 PM
Nice to have it documented that the FBI was going after Sessions. They must have felt he was a threat to the State, ergo, he's on 'our side' of the fight. To them, anyway.
Posted by: Beasts of England | March 21, 2018 at 05:17 PM
McDaniel is hated by the Uniparty.
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 21, 2018 at 05:17 PM
WSJ Headline:
How To Limit Data Facebook Collects About You
How about lyle’s way: never use it.
Posted by: lyle | March 21, 2018 at 05:18 PM
I don't know how McCabe had authority to investigate anyone without the ok of the AG--and I doubt sessions approved an investigation of himself. If McCabe was using the authority of his office for an unauthorized snooping on his boss, wouldn't that be something?
Posted by: clarice | March 21, 2018 at 05:19 PM
Butchart gardens in victoria is a beautiful place. Best use of a former stone quarry.
Tea at the empress hotel is also nice. I actually found victoria to be more british in feel than london.
Posted by: rse | March 21, 2018 at 05:31 PM
Completely agree, rse.
Posted by: lyle | March 21, 2018 at 05:38 PM
On what planet can a subordinate in a chain of command launch an attack (don't pretend otherwise) using company resources on his direct report boss without without getting the approval of the target's own boss (in this case POTUS)?
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 21, 2018 at 05:43 PM
And don't be telling me that some Congress Critter told him to do it. Our Constitution thingy has something about separation of powers that deals with THAT.
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 21, 2018 at 05:45 PM
If he hadn't already, I'm bring McCabe back just so I could fire him again.
:-)
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 21, 2018 at 05:47 PM
Mark Knoller
Verified account @markknoller
2m2 minutes ago
WH hails Senate passage of bill to combat online sex trafficking. Once law, bill empowers prosecution of websites that facilitate sex trafficking providing penalties of up to 25 years imprisonment. House passed last month. Bill now heads to WH for president's signature.
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It would be supremely ironic if those rumors about missing Haitian children and the Clinton Foundation turned out to be true.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 05:48 PM
Yes, Butchart Gardens was the highlight of Victoria for Mrs. Buckeye.
The kids, not so much:)
Posted by: Buckeye | March 21, 2018 at 05:48 PM
Funny thing about those mature English Gardens of the Victoria era. The one in Christ Church NZ was one of the nicest we have ever seen. Actually was the nicest thing standing in Christchurch after the earthquake a few years back.
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 21, 2018 at 05:51 PM
I'm thinking what would happen on a warship if a mid rank officer decide to use ships resources to take out his own boss without first going up a step in his chain of command for permission (and of course McCabe never informed Trump). Do they still do firing squads?
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 21, 2018 at 05:54 PM
Obviously, part of the FBI's job is to investigate the candor of congressional testimony, such as that of Clapper and Brennan. Amirite?
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 05:56 PM
Miss M, that sex trafficking bill is a case of be careful what you wish for. By reducing liability protection, it forces internet firms to monitor user content. That is it legitimizes the SJWs that censor FB, YouTube, and Twitter today. This includes making any email provider scan all email (no longer protected form liability if they don't). A way to make iCloud privacy illegal if you think about it. Little benefit, monstrous invasion of privacy.
Posted by: henry | March 21, 2018 at 05:56 PM
I loved Quebec , The Frontenac and all the churches they had Masses in French.
I would love to visit Victoria, Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia.
On my bucket list.
Posted by: maryrose | March 21, 2018 at 05:59 PM
Sessions was not aware of the investigation when he decided to fire McCabe. ABC also reporting that "last year several Republican & Democratic lawmakers were informed of the probe during a closed-door briefing w/Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and McCabe
Rosenstein was aware.
Posted by: lurkersusie | March 21, 2018 at 06:00 PM
WTF. Fire Rosenstein too.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 21, 2018 at 06:01 PM
So Sessions was asleep and Rosenstein had a black hat, or did he inform Trump that a cabinet officer was under investigation?
Posted by: henry | March 21, 2018 at 06:02 PM
Henry:
Very good question!
Posted by: maryrose | March 21, 2018 at 06:04 PM
I've been to Paris many times. Quebec City is nicer. Cleaner, quieter, and much more picturesque. (No people walking around in burkas either.) Just looking out from the heights where the mouth of the St. Lawrence river was defended back in the day is worth the trip, and the excellent French-style cuisine uses local ingredients such as elk, bison and even moose. There's a steep drop from the heights to the old part of the city, and a ski lift type thing to go up and down. You can see it here in the right. Beautiful place.
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 06:04 PM
There are rules for investigating a sitting Senator and I can't believe Dana Bent then acting AG approved this investigation.
Posted by: clarice | March 21, 2018 at 06:05 PM
Take on Facebook controversy from a T_D commenter:
Interesting.
Posted by: Porchlight | March 21, 2018 at 06:05 PM
Ext:
Beautiful picture.
Loved the St Ann de Beaupre shrine.
Posted by: maryrose | March 21, 2018 at 06:05 PM
henry,
Thanks for the information, as I had no idea about the content of the bill.
I was talking to daddy today about the value of JOM. Each of us brings a different type of expertise and life experience, so your explanation of the flaws in the bill based on your knowledge of digital media is valuable, as is daddy's experience with his carrier and certain cities, others knowledge of law, mechanical stuff, etc.
It's one of the things I appreciate about this site, along with the friendships of those I have met here.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 06:12 PM
I had heard the pitter-patter of mouse steps last week and had the bug man lay out some traps. They were unlike any I had seen before, basically flat pieces of cardboard about the size of an index card.
I got back from some errands and victory was mine! A tiny mouse was stuck to this trap and he was going 'hweep, hweep'. Ugh. It doesn't kill them with poison, it sticks them to the paper!! Now I have to dispose of this booger who was guilty only of wanting to share some of my cheddar explosion Goldfish™.
With a penchant for procrastination, I decided to sweep him out onto the deck and then determine his method of execution after happy hour. I grab the broom and gently sweep him out the door, and then realize he's not out the door - he and the stoopid trap are stuck to my broom!! 'hweep, hweep'
(And don't worry, I'm laughing so hard at this point I'm starting to cry...)
As it becomes obvious that phase one and phase two are going to be instantly combined, martini or not, I try to brace myself to squash poor Mickey under the broom. But thanks to the stoopid trap's design, there's an economic consideration involved: how much is it worth to me to have to peel a dead mouse and a stoopid mouse trap off of my broom? Grrr.
Combining my love of Latin and physics, I settle the issue: centrifugal force. I'm not sure how you'd score it, but if there's an Olympic event for flinging rodents into the lake via broom, I'm you're man. 'hweep, hweep'
Posted by: Beasts of England | March 21, 2018 at 06:15 PM
I have never been to Quebec, but I know all about the Plains of Abraham and the Chateau Frontenac, because one of my books sitting on my bookshelf is "Mystery in Old Quebec" which was part of the Weekly Reader Book Club offering when I was 9-10 years old. It made a lasting impression on me.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 06:16 PM
Beasts, mice can swim. He'll be back. Just call him Arnold. And get a spring loaded trap and terminate him.
Posted by: henry | March 21, 2018 at 06:21 PM
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 06:23 PM
Beasts,
See, now I am feeling sorry for the mouse. This is my problem with OUR mouse situation. I refuse to use those sticky things, I worry about the dogs and cat getting into poison, and I see today with the cold weather lingering tell-tale signs that they have returned.
My son't room is immune because his cat stays in there, but the mice don't seem terribly intimidates by the 3 dogs. One would think they would do some hunting, since they go after squirrels, but no.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 06:24 PM
He can't swim much with a cardboard trap stuck to his feet, henry. Although, he probably floated around for about three minutes before a largemouth decided to have supper. :)
Posted by: Beasts of England | March 21, 2018 at 06:25 PM
A mouse with his feet adhered to a piece of cardboard might struggle with swimming, I’d reckon.
Posted by: lyle | March 21, 2018 at 06:25 PM
Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 and 5 others liked
Josh Caplan
@joshdcaplan
6h6 hours ago
BBC asked Mark Zuckerberg in 2009 if Facebook would ever sell personal user data. His answer? "No! Of course not."
https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/976492048277819392
Video at link.
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Either he's a liar about intending to share the information, or he needs to explain how that company was going to be profitable with just letting everyone post on there without paying.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 06:30 PM
I'll swim on out there and see if I can rescue him, Miss Marple. ;)
Posted by: Beasts of England | March 21, 2018 at 06:31 PM
LOL Beasts! remember there is never just one mouse.
Posted by: henry | March 21, 2018 at 06:31 PM
My cat came out of the crawlspace with one of these a few weeks ago, only it also included a mouse, who was quite dead.
They sell a gel that attracts mice but apparently not other pets.
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 06:32 PM
Honestly, did people think Markie Zuckerberg was just big hearted and wanted to offer the world a place where pictures of babies and doggies and class reunions could be shared?
I mean, only TM is nice enough to do that...
(You know he gets $$$ from Soros to keep us all hanging right here, so we don't spread our knowledge to others.)
Posted by: anonamom | March 21, 2018 at 06:34 PM
My brother and two cousins, and one second cousin, used to have mini reunions at the beginning or second weekend of October. Since they were all located in Maryland, Mrs H and I would use it as the starting point for a vacation. Once we went over through Virginia to Skyline drive and meandered down through the autumn foliage before cutting over past the Homestead and eventually taking 77 up through West Virginia. But another time we headed north and went through Vermont and headed to Quebec. We stayed at Chateau Frontenac and even the least expensive rooms are very nice. Plus unbeknownst to us we got there on Canadian Thanksgiving which was neat.
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 21, 2018 at 06:36 PM
I have two traps left, henry. And I really, really hope that they don't catch anything!
Posted by: Beasts of England | March 21, 2018 at 06:37 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5526135/Dishevelled-Nicolas-Sarkozy-sets-second-day-questioning.html
As usual, the Daily Mail has all sorts of info which those who don't read it haven't a clue about. Get this:
Saif Al-Islam Gaddafi, the second son of the late dictator, says he is able provide evidence that the 63-year-old former president was backed by illicit Libyan cash.
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 06:38 PM
Those glue traps are intense. My friend's crummy apartment had huge rats and the rats still found a way to bridge the glue traps by dragging toilet paper onto them. Pretty ingenious.
I have a lot of varmint stories.
But my favorite is the time I put rat poison in my apartment kitchen, not long after I moved to Austin.
I came home one day and poked my head around the door just in time to see a cute little baby rat crawl out from under the stove and pick up a pellet in his little paws.
I then was unable to control myself and yelled out "don't eat it, it's poison!"
Posted by: Porchlight | March 21, 2018 at 06:39 PM
That's awesome, Porch! :)
Posted by: Beasts of England | March 21, 2018 at 06:41 PM
I think we can rule out a Zuckerberg for President run in 2020 now.
Posted by: Tom R | March 21, 2018 at 06:45 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5529329/Zuck-outlines-plan-crack-party-apps-access-data.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline
Posted by: Miss Marple the Deplorable | March 21, 2018 at 06:45 PM
When I worked one summer at the lab at the Mo Inst of Psychiatry, my first task every morning was to collect two lab rats from the basement and bring them upstairs. The residents (this was before those institutions closed) enjoyed my pet rats, but never caught on I only took them up in the elevator (lab was top floor over the residence hall). On arrival at the lab, I coaxed each rat to poke its head through the hand guillotine next to the sink -- and chopped each head off. Then to the cold room to perform brain surgery and remove the cortex. Cortex went into a blender, then into the centrifuge. After lunch we ran opiate receptor test on the brain samples.
Unlike lab rats, wild ones have wild diseases. Terminate with prejudice.
Posted by: henry | March 21, 2018 at 06:49 PM
Yeesh.
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 06:53 PM
Ralph peters thinks this is fine:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/28500/cnn-cancels-students-appearance-hank-berrien
Posted by: narcisocenfl | March 21, 2018 at 06:53 PM
I was looking forward to Zuck spending scads of money and getting Goober Graham level vote totals.
Posted by: Captain Hate | March 21, 2018 at 06:54 PM
Priest prays for pope’s death if he does not change stances on Islam, Holy Communion
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 06:57 PM
Dick’s Posts ‘Deeper than Expected’ Losses Weeks After Taking Anti-Gun Stance
Posted by: Extraneus | March 21, 2018 at 07:04 PM
Just another cunning cunning plan, I see.
Posted by: narcisocenfl | March 21, 2018 at 07:06 PM
I don't care if they told Rosenstein, he was just another junior officer like McCabe trying to take out their boss...at the suggestion of somebody in another seperate branch of government which has no authority in the matter. (Congress can investgateon their own and they can reccomend prosecution or they impeach, but they cannot coop the chain of command of the executive.) McCabe and Rosenstein were obligated to take the matter to their target's boss which they did not.
Clear as day.
Posted by: Old Lurker | March 21, 2018 at 07:12 PM