Go Ahead. Make My Day.

And the Survey Says...

By 74-24 Democrats L-U-V a ban on semi-automatic rifles!

From a recent Quinnipiac poll:

AllahP notices that the youngsters are less progressive on this than their elders, which is counter to the normal flow in these things. My two cents - video games! Urban kids who have never held a real weapon probably have a better sense of guns than past generations of urbanites.

As to the politics, my guess is that if the Democrats pushed hard for a ban on all semiautomatic rifles they would get even more votes in their urban enclaves, for a net pickup of roughly zero House seats, while getting buried across New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, and anywhere else non-urban Democrats are lurking.

But they should test it and see!

Comments

[daddy]

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[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

I wish they would raise the minimum age to exercise your Constitutional 1st Amendment rights to 21.

If it's true that "the pen is mightier than the sword", we really need to limit the damage that some ignorant and brainwashed high school kids can do with high-speed, high-capacity internet, Twitter, and Facebook.

[maryrose]

Second

[daddy]

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[henry]

Well punk, was that 99 or 100 rounds? I don't rightly know myself. Do you feel lucky?

[maryrose]

Third

[maryrose]

Law says 21 and up to buy a weapon.
What if they already own one.

[Jim Eagle]

It really doesn't matter until you believeran we have a citizen population that believe's in amendening or deleting the 2nd amendment but I believe we are moving more and more to constituional protection than screwing with it. At least talking to Frederick and his friends that is the sense I get.

I also think his generation is seeing thru the progressive agenda of transexualism, open borders, abortion on demand and free drugs.

[Extraneus]

So Freitas was right, of course. It's not just bump stocks and background checks they want. In FL, they just passed a 3-day waiting period for long guns.

Think about that. You can no longer go to a store and buy a rifle in Florida.

Hard to believe Republicans agreed to that.

[Threadkiller]

JOM, where second is third and third is sixth.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Hard to believe Republicans agreed to that.

Not really.

[Dave (in MA)]

I'd like to see the poll include whether the respondents know what a semi-automatic weapon actually is.

[Extraneus]

What if they already own one.

They can "own" them, just not buy them. I owned a semi-auto .22 since I was 12. My son owned a 20 gauge shotgun since he was 16.

A father can still buy his son a rifle or shotgun. He just has to wait 3 days before he can pick it up in Florida.

[Extraneus]

Not really.

Good point.

[Jim Eagle]

There are only so many NRA members. Repulicans as registered voters out size them by thousands. Lots of people who claim they are republican or conservative have not idea why they are and what those institutions stand for even constitionallity.

Same for the Dems. Especially union guys.

[Extraneus]

Apparently Trump isn't agreeing to a meeting without "concrete actions" from NK first.

Not testing and not objecting to joint military exercises with SK are not "actions."

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-09/not-so-fast-white-house-says-north-korea-must-take-concrete-actions-trump-kim

[Threadkiller]

CH, I left you a response on the previous thread.

[JohnS]

Looking at the survey, I am wondering why blacks support a ban by 63-33, but hispanics oppose 39-53. Good for hypothesizing.

[maryrose]

I wonder how many people in Florida ran out to buy a gun before this became the law?

[maryrose]

Does this help or hurt Rick Scott in his Senate race?

[sbwaters]

False stories travel way faster

Hah! They do on CNN, too. TVs in every airport lounge.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Regarding the discussion of patriotism on the last thread:

Leftists are not patriots. They are internationalists and to them patriotism is a provincial idea, akin to nationalism and of course, fascism.

Pproof of this is the "not standing up for the anthem" kerfiffle in the NFL, spying by leftists who gave the ifo to the Soviets and/or Russia, burning of the American flag, mocking of the military, etc.

The attitude is most easily explained by Trump speaking of America as an exceptional nation, to which the answer was "every nation thinks they're exceptional."

If pressed on TV, they might lie and say they are patriots, but if you got them in a group of their fellow lefties I can guaran-damn-tee you that they would laugh at the very idea.

[sbwaters]

Thanks, JiB for the Champagne pointer. Looking forward to it. And to the croissants.

[rse]

Same with a pistol. A 21 year old cannot buy it from a dealer, but he or she can have one in their possession and use it.

My oldest wanted a precision competition pistol before he was 21 and got it via a family friend who bought it and transferred it.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

From a guy I folllow on Twitter:

Razor
‏ @hale_razor
6h6 hours ago

2009: ignoring N Korea is working
2010: " "
2011: " "
2012: " "
2013: underground test of 10 kiloton bomb
2014: ignoring is working
2015: " "
2016: underground test of 25 kiloton bomb
2017: ENGAGING N KOREA WILL KILL US ALL!
2018: Disarmament meeting

[Extraneus]

Florida Gov. Rick Scott spurns conservatives, NRA by signing new gun regulations into law

• Raises the minimum age for firearm purchases to 21 from 18
• Imposes a three-day waiting period for most gun purchases
• Bans the sale or possession of bump stocks
• Funds a program to allow some teachers and school staff to carry guns after 132 hours of firearm training and 12 hours of diversity training
• Makes it easier for law enforcement to temporarily seize guns and ammo from people with mental health issues
• Provides additional funding for mental health services
• Funds the destruction and rebuilding of Douglas High School’s freshman building

[clarice feldman]

These Dems aare really good thinkers.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/among-the-never-trumpers/#.WqKyqpD1kyA.twitter

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Rep. Mike Bost
‏Verified account @RepBost

Pleased @POTUS has heard my call & the call of our steelworkers to bring jobs back (500 in Granite City). This addresses the global glut in steel and other unfair foreign trade practices that have cost our economy jobs and imperiled our national security.

Reply by President Trump:

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2h2 hours ago

That’s right @RepBost! Thank you for your support in helping put America back to work. It’s about JOBS, JOBS, JOBS for our incredible workers and putting AMERICA FIRST!

[Extraneus]

North Korean Media Condemn ‘Wicked’ U.S. a Day After Kim-Trump Summit Announced

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Spoke to PM @TurnbullMalcolm of Australia. He is committed to having a very fair and reciprocal military and trade relationship. Working very quickly on a security agreement so we don’t have to impose steel or aluminum tariffs on our ally, the great nation of Australia!
=============================

Art of the Deal, folks, Art of the Deal!

[Jane]

Ex,

Do you have a problem with the Florida law (other than the diversity training)?

If a father or mother can buy a gun for a kid it doesn't bother me that much. I have a gun license but not a gun so I'm not someone with knowledge. I think it sucks for the military, but I really think a lot of this violence is a parenting issue. Do you?

[Jane]

BTW if Netflix hires obama I'm canceling them. I hope I can figure out how to use Roku.

[clarice feldman]

I guess Trump needs the guiding hands of Albright and Kerry who negotiated such good deals :http://freebeacon.com/politics/susan-rice-questions-trump-presence-mind-execute-high-risk-meeting-kim-jong-un/

[Jane]

Florida voted to spring forward and never fall back again. I'm so excited!

[Ed]

Dropping a quick comment before running out to do some splitting ahead of next storm surge...

For Anonamom, and all y'all talking sodas vs pop vs cokes etc a couple postings back...

Here's another word for y'all's lexicon..."Phosphates," as in cherry, strawberry, lime phosphate. I used to hang out behind the soda fountain in grampa's drug store in a little Nebraska town as a kid. Cherry cokes, even chocolate cokes were pretty popular with the locals, but so were "phosphates." Lotsa farmers brought the family to town on movie nights riding on a wagon behind their tractors. But I digress. The fountain had a battery of syrup pumps...a couple squirts of Strawberry over ice, a pull on the soda water fountain, and viola, a "strawberry phosphate" was born! Don't know if I ever heard of them called that elsewhere.

So much to make note of for comments, but my habit is to read EVERYTHING. Being a slow reader, I'm often a day [or more] behind.

Amom...I have installed a unique folder among my bookmarks for your med and diet comments and links. Invaluable. Question: Is Club soda beneficial or harmful. I don't drink sweetened pops/sodas/teas etc from the store, but a few ozs of club soda is nice to break the monotony of plain water. Seems harmless to me, but I've been told otherwise. Others of ye also have your own folders...too many to list.

Gotta run. Be back again, no tellin' when.

P.S. best wishes to all of you in your various pursuits for health...your thoughts are all welcomed, when I get to 'em.

Ed

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

FOX Business
‏Verified account @FoxBusiness
17m17 minutes ago

.@CharlesHurt: "The reason that I was supportive of Donald Trump from the very beginning is because I saw the potential for him to not only stand up to the Democratic Party, but to really shake up the Republican Party...and he's done all that."

https://twitter.com/FoxBusiness/status/972241876626657280

Video at link.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/22/trump-dossier-fbi-james-baker-david-corn-mother-jones-316157

Anyone in the FBI having contact with David Corn should have been fired immediately, if not arrested.

[lyle]

Don’t know about you, but I sure hope Trump consults with Marie Harf before his big tête-à-tête with Rocket Man!

[clarice feldman]

We called the stuff from the fountain to which they added flavored syrups phosphates, too.Unless it was straight up coke or root beer syrup.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Jennifer Rubin
‏Verified account @JRubinBlogger

given his druthers, Trump would have marched into a room without preconditions with Kim tells you everything you need to know about how erratic, dangerous and irrational he is. Hopefully, McMaster and others have devised a solution to keep Trump at bay.
=================================

I believe this woman has something seriously wrong with her. Like dementia.

[Threadkiller]

What the heck, I'll just move this over from the dead thread.

What has Manafort done other than wear horrible hair pieces to get this reaction.

I based my disdain for Manafort mostly on Trump's distancing himself from Manafort. When the public became aware that Manafort had some odd connections that could be legitimately questioned Trump sent him packing. After ties were broken, Trump would make it clear that "Manafort only worked for the campaign for a very short period of time."

After Manafort's home was raided, Trump was asked about it at a press conference. Trump states that these types of raids are done in very rare circumstances. That with the rest of his answer implied, to me, that Trump believed Manafort to be a bad dude. Sure, there was a gratuitous "I like him" type of comment, but that would be expected. The rest of the statement is damming.

Scroll to about the 2:50 mark:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?432426-101/president-russia-expelling-americans

I cannot exclude what I read in the indictment simply because of a fruit of the poisonous tree argument. It is some pretty bad stuff and if this was the indictment against a Clintonista everyone would be doing a happy dance.

I said it at the time and I said it last week and I will say it again. My spidey sense tells me that Manafort exposed himself to be a privateer hoping to milk an international teet from the heights of a new administration and his lobbyist buddies were all in. Trump didn't like this type of shit and came to realize what a liability Manafort could be.

Manafort turned out to have way more baggage than anyone could have imagined. Mueller's indictment of Manafort also cleared Trump of any knowledge of Manafort's criminal doings.

I am not picking hat colors for Mueller. All I am saying is Manafort isn't a clean player and I imagine the same Trump loyalists that made him aware that he was being bugged probably also made him aware that Manafort was a liability so it wasn't that hard to throw Mueller that bone

[Threadkiller]

She has Pattericosons disease, MM.

[Extraneus]

Do you have a problem with the Florida law (other than the diversity training)?

Yes, Jane. A waiting period for long guns is new in FL. Not in places like CA or CT, but it would've had no effect on the FL shooting.

Just another compromise by a politician who's more interested in his next campaign than in guarantying the rights of his constituents.

Personally, I think that for school employees who can otherwise legally carry, allowing them also carry in schools would be much more effective in dealing with the problem this legislation is supposedly about. Probably only requires a modification of the gun-free zone law.

But we know it's not about fixing a problem. Libs and gun grabbers are not about fixing anything. They love mass shootings. And since it's not about fixing anything, I'm opposed.

I don't care about bump stocks, btw, and I might have supported a new background check requirement.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

They buried the Boone County murdered deputy today. 50-mil procession through small towns and his church ending at Crown Hill Cemetery in Indianapolis.

At the end, when they did the End of Watch Call, this appeared in the sky over Boone County:

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

RG got through his hernia surgery just fine. He's posting on Twitter and says he is sore, but otherwise ok.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Readout of President Trump's Call With President Xi Jinping of China

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX3zlJSWkAEO4i5.jpg:large

[Extraneus]

Btw, I carry around children all the time, and have been doing so for over 25 years. Nobody's sure what they'd do in an emergency, but I think I might help defend myself and any kids nearby if it ever came to that. I just wouldn't be allowed to so at school.

The idea that school employees (let's not just say "teachers," since they're probably generally less trustworthy than janitors) can't carry at school, if they could carry anywhere else, is ridiculous.

[Captain Hate]

Thanks for the answer, TK. I'm biased against Mueller period. He was a terrible head of the FBI; the Richard Jewell case by itself should have Mueller and every complicit worthless gumshoe serving major time incarcerated. I wanted to vomit when Bill Kristol's catamites described Mueller as a man of integrity.

AFAIC Manafort is a means for him to rehabilitate his image. I don't want that to happen. This entire investigation is a sham which needs to be shut down. Until that happens I'm not shutting up about it.

[sbwaters]

Do you have a problem with the Florida law

Ex replied, but, if you don’t mind, I’ll weigh in, too.

This is a continuation of childification. When does one become responsible? When they demonstrate they can shoulder it.

Most every pre-teen I was with in summer camp learned to handle rifles safely and responsibly.

You don’t encourage people to matue when you son’t allow them to mature.

When teens prove themselves irresponsible, then restrict their opportunities.

At 18, one should have the opportunity to act maturely -- drive, vote, serve in the military, and buy a rifle.

If not then, why not make this the last generation to be able to drive, vote, serve in the military, and own a gun.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/09/house-republicans-expand-dossier-probe-seek-info-from-obama-officials.html

House Intel Committee expanding investigation of the Trump dossier, seeking answers from Obama admin officials including a former staffer for Joe Biden (Shailagh Murray) whose husband (Neil King Jr.) works for Fusion GPS.

[gentlejim]

I’m 2 threads behind, but wanted to post before I attempt catching up.
I find the picture with Melania and the young man pleasing. She is obviously engaged/interested.

I hate the light brown shoes with dark suit and slim fit flooding suit thing. It reminds me of how a 5 year old would dress. Pffft.....

In response to TomR, I believe, being a Marine does not automatically confer white hat status. Charles Whitman and Lee Harvey Oswald were also enlisted Marines. No disrespect to honorable Marines intended.

Back much later.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Good friend here just texted me that her son-in-law has been charged with handling the press at the VA shooting in California.

Auburn grad and CHIP.

[sbwaters]

her son-in-law has been charged with handling the press at the VA shooting

Black humor: didn’t know it was a crime.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5483295/Saudi-Arabia-offers-build-biggest-football-stadium-Iraq.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

[henry]

Miss M, is he allowed to shoot first and allow questions later? ;)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

SBwaters,

Just realized what that looked like! JA!

Should have said "assigned to."

[Captain Hate]

The Farsi Ferret was on The View today:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=374251

[maryrose]

SBW:
I agree with you.
Parents can’t see a college student’s grades without their permission.
They have to sign to send their transcripts to colleges once they are 18.
That is why by keeping them younger it takes them longer to embrace responsibility of real life.

[narcisocenfl]

From the last thread, manafort was tied to a
French presidential campaign of ena veteran balladur, which in turn was tied to a Lebanese arms dealer who directed subs to Pakistan. He was called as a witness. If he was so dirty why didn't the Clinton doj go after him, furthermore he was lobbying in favor of a whole host of ex European politicians none of them are being inducted.

[daddy]

Wilbur Ross on with Charles Payne and this graphic was just posted:

US Manufacturing Jobs:

19,553,000-------------12,614,000
June 1979--------------Feb 2018

[lyle]

That’s how I read it: son-in-law got busted.

[narcisocenfl]

So they wave the big shiny, and podesta and weber get away Scot free, lets randomly review the application of a 1,000 registrations, add if their papers are in rode.

[Threadkiller]

Yes, what negotiations could a play-to-play DOJ have made with an international power broker who has found himself in trouble?

[anonamom]

That bill bothers me.

It seems unconstitutional to not allow an adult to buy a gun.
Especially when a good chunk of our military is 18-21. Just sayin.'

Also that 132 hours of training time for the teachers? Shooters---what say you? That seems insanely huge to me.
The 12 hours of diversity training is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

The three day wait thing is bizarro too. Unless they make that for elective abortions too.

Basically, a pile of meaningless crap that at a minimum infringes on citizens time, and may infringe on the 18-21 year olds rights.

****

Ed, I know of no reason for you to not enjoy club soda. It's what is used to make the magnesium water.

[maryrose]

Ed:
Post more often if you can.

[Ralph L]

I'm surprised daddy's Scotsmen were going regimental at a (presumably) Highland games. The hammer throw could turn into Benny Hill's ballroom dancing skit.

[Account Deleted]

"Art of the Deal, folks, Art of the Deal!"

Play Chicken with DJT and you will lose. He doesn't blink and he doesn't play where he doesn't know that he can win.

Imposing tariffs with an "open" back door to negotiate (Canaduh, Metziko, and Australia now) is similar to the threat of getting up from the table and walking out the door.

Who blinks first? Not DJT.

[Jim Eagle]

Scott is an animal of the public perception. Remember he captiulated on doning the right thing and appointed the special DA to try Traynon,

He will be no better than Nelson if elected and so far he is behind in the polls. I would have a hard time pulling the lever for Scott. I was hoping DeSantis would go against Nelson instead of running for Gov. since Adam Putnam is a goood choice. We are spititin our best people up.

[henry]

That's 4 weeks full time of "how to shoot"? Or 4 weeks of indoctrination of which a day and a half are "diversity"? What else, 40 hours to master personal pronouns (your treeness)?

A 4 week all day shooting camp would be great! I did one week of the Remington wing shooting school, a thousand rounds a day. Good time!

Not necessary for a carry license. We had a NRA course on gun safety & legal/moral considerations for a WI CCL. Shooting and gun comfort are a separate issue, but I enjoy that part whenever I have time.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Contents of Doomsday Kit Costco is selling for $6000. Will be shipped in stages to avoid alerting people who might want to steal it from you:

https://twitter.com/DoolingJohn/status/936558448149499906/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fsmokeroom.com%2F2018%2F03%2F09%2Fcostco-doomsday-kit%2F

[clara]

JIB, I would certainly hope you would not vote that horrible dumb astronaut Nelson as opposed to Scott! Please no!!!

[Captain Hate]

I was just about to write something similar, Jack. Scott is a bigger Tea Party backstabber than Ayotte yet he has Florida Top Men singing his praises while turning their backs on Allen West. Something is really rotten in the state of Alan Grayson and Charlie Crist; no wonder RG needed hernia surgery.

[maryrose]

Agree with Clara.
Time for Nelson to go.
We need that seat.

[maryrose]

RG:
Hope you feel better soon.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Sadie saucier
‏ @SaucierSadie

Thank you @realDonaldTrump Kristian just got off the phone with our great president.Thank you for taking the time out of your schedule to think of our family.And giving us our life back. Kristian, Sadie and Family.

[Jim Eagle]

claraerer,

No worries. I hvave never vored for a Democrat ever. Thaat takes in 53 years of being right thinking.

[Jim Eagle]

I can see that I can't see my comments when typing . Going to bed.

Xavier looks good. Great school in Cincy. Love the Musketeers.

[narcisocenfl]

I voted for Charlie cheetah once I think beer was involved, lets not forget David rivers who got away with misrepresenting the source of his income for 6 years.

[Threadkiller]

With there new found life I wonder if the whole Saucier family will travel to the woods where the Pardoned can show them where he buried the evidence he destroyed when the Feds questioned him?

It will make for a nice family photo setting.

[Another Bob]

Anonamon, 132 hours of firearms training is patently ridiculous.

Clearly a requirement written by the union to maximize the amount of cash they'll make without having to actually teach. Oh, someone thinks that won't be paid time?

[Threadkiller]

...their...

Ugh. I hope I'm not the one who tops CH's list.

[Captain Hate]

Nope, not you, TK.

[narcisocenfl]

The top men are much like the conquistador coffee counterparts across the pond like Cameron and may, they were embarrassed by the union jack, by hunting, expressions of religious fervor.

[glasater]

MM,

At the end, when they did the End of Watch Call, this appeared in the sky over Boone County:

This sky phenom is called a Sun Dog and it is truly magical to see them :-)

[Threadkiller]

Thank goodness.

:-)

I am 90% sure I figured it out. 20 questions takes too long so I will ask only one and then I will keep my guess to myself.

Is it particularly ironic that this poster makes the errors that they make?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

glasater,

Thanks! I knew there was a name for them, but couldn't remember.

I am glad it got posted so that the family could see it. Might provide them a bit of comfort.

[narcisocenfl]

Isn't it curious how miss mallards faux pa got no further attention, she modified a weapon that got the attention of the aft.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3m3 minutes ago

The deal with North Korea is very much in the making and will be, if completed, a very good one for the World. Time and place to be determined.

===========================

I am hereby taking credit for supporting this guy early on. He is fixing things!

[narcisocenfl]

I recommended James barringtons work, the modern British techno thriller writer.

[Captain Hate]

Is it particularly ironic that this poster makes the errors that they make?

Well yes, it's hard to imagine it not being readily available, over and beyond doing a quick Bing.

[glasater]

MM,

I hope the family did find comfort for it seems the heavens were saying goodbye..

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Earlier I posted this tweet about Devin Nunes going after an associate of Biden's>

https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/972214137227853824

Vachel Lindsay (Imperator Rex) has this to say about that:

Vachel Lindsay
‏ @_VachelLindsay_
4h4 hours ago

They're getting very close to Obama now. Or perhaps more accurately, they already have him snared and this is their way of revealing the truth to us, step by step.

[narcisocenfl]

Yes shallaigh Murray wee a for journal and post reporter before serving in the same post that Jared kushner holds now.

[narcisocenfl]

Was, so a Dem operative with a byline.

[GUS]

So you can't buy a long gun until you are 21, but you have sex change procedures.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/09/super-maga-nomics-a-trade-and-policy-discussion-with-secretary-wilbur-ross/

Includes a couple of video interviews with Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross, who is always instructive.

[Janet 🚬 - I wish my family had a poncho]

So you can't buy a long gun until you are 21, but you have sex change procedures.

Exactly. It is disgusting.

A criminal kills people so politicians are gonna take away the Constitutional rights of Americans that did nothing wrong. Stupid.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/03/08/princeton-researcher-keep-politics-out-of-our-schools/

[Captain Hate]

MacGyver's breaking into Chernobyl? Hope he doesn't interrupt the solar panel production. Also plutonium is used for a bomb, not a controlled reaction, no?