Legal and Illegal

The Times settles an argument no one is making:

The Myth of the Criminal Immigrant

The Trump administration’s first year of immigration policy has relied on claims that immigrants bring crime into America. President Trump’s latest target is sanctuary cities.

“Every day, sanctuary cities release illegal immigrants, drug dealers, traffickers, gang members back into our communities,” he said last week. “They’re safe havens for just some terrible people.”

They quote Trump mentioning "illegal" immigrants, and one might wonder just what sort of sanctuary legal immigrants are granted in a sanctuary city, but the rest of the article is about all immigrants, legal or otherwise. That certainly pins down the question of whether tech engineers on H1-B visas are a crime risk. As to why Trump might need a border wall to keep out legsal immigrants, don't ask.

They do provide a fun chart:

I know they will like this chart too:

1993 was a peak year for crime, so baseline games are being played here. Still, case closed, right?

Comments

[Captain Hate]

One very good thing about Twitter has been overlooked: DJT uses it very well!

[hoyden]

I am very grateful for JOM being JOM; the conversations, links, and perspectives. JOM speaks to my vast "I don't know what I don't know."

[clarice feldman]

Good morning,JOM! Happy Easter!

[anonamom]

RG, I use Twitter, for the reasons you state.

I will argue it grants, even fosters, a unique level of "low discourse"--the horrendousness of which I speak. (Perhaps) since it allows for anonymity, the level of infantile name calling found there is unsurpassed.

Maybe attorneys are better at distancing themselves from the Commons. ;-)

[anonamom]

Geez, I woke up before Clarice got posted?!?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/03/faithless_in_holy_week.html

[Jack is Back!]

anonamom,

Is there a shot you can get for preventing bronchitis? Supposedly, for elderly people. An annual one like the flu shot.

Bravo Zulu, Clarice. Lets keep them in the headlines.

[James D.]

Good morning to all, and Happy Easter!

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Happy Easter to all!

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/03/faithless_in_holy_week.html

[hoyden]

Clarice's "Pieces" highlights that even the FBI holds all the cards in an investigation they can still fumble the hand.

[Buckeye]

And if I hear the little shit described as a "survivor" of the shooting one more time I'm going to wretch. Just how big is the radius of survivors? Hiroshima sized?

Best thing said about the little Hogg last night.

As usual Iggy not buying into any BS.

[Captain Hate]

Clarice serves as a necessary corrective to the numbskulls at Weekly Standard and, I assume, Andrew "See No Government Evil" McCarthy, on the purported integrity of the FBI under Robert Mueller. Pre Mueller, the FBI was already well on the road to uselessness under, of course, Slick's security nightmare administration when they erroneously sicced the MFM on Richard Jewell, a security guy who was trying to help, and made him out to be the Olympic bomber until a US attorney ultimately cleared him. How nice to be convicted in the court of public opinion of something you tried to help prevent.

Shut the FBI down now!

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--Ignatz,

would you say that to any of your friends kids?--

If he called me a "pathetic f***er" and explicitly said I was an accessory to murder you better believe I would say considerably worse and more personal things than what Ingraham said and I'd apologize for them about the same time they were prying my cold dead fingers off my gun.

More importantly this disgusting little prog made himself a public figure and has injected himself into the hardball world of politics wherein you don't receive some immunity from getting your head stove in just because you can't grow a beard.
Either he is a child who cannot be criticized because he is too young to be held fully accountable in which case his opinions are similarly irrelevant or he is an adult public figure in which case he is subject to the same rules of ridicule as everyone else.

[Marlene]

Good Morning! Happy Easter!

[RattlerGator]

Great job, Clarice.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

C;arice,

Thank you so much for highlighting the FBI's non-recording of interviews. As you said, this should be stopped right now by Sessions or Wray. Either that, or President Trump should do an EO, except probably the dems would call it obstruction or something.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
12m12 minutes ago

HAPPY EASTER!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Sigh. Clarice, of course. Sorry for the typo.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theralphretort.com/david-hogg-reddit-account-is-full-of-hilarious-cringe-3031018/

This is FAR more personal that Laura Ingraham's comment. All in Hogg's own words.

I did glean from this that his parents are Kevin and Dana Hogg.

[Extraneus]

amom, thanks for the link to the Microsoft chatbot. Worth thinking about when I'm tempted to say mean things to Alexa. :-)

[Extraneus]

OPEN THREAD: Close out the month of March with thread-excellence.

Posted at 9:30 pm by Glenn Reynolds

(Hall of Lame™ indeed™.)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-31/facebook-turmoil-employees-uproar-over-executives-leaked-memo

[Tom Bowler]

"David Hogg's mother is a supporter of PLANNED PARENTHOOD."

A recent epiphany, perhaps?

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Happy Resurrection day to everyone.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/01/first-lady-puts-american-students-in-the-spotlight-for-140th-easter-egg-roll/

[Momto2]

Happy Easter everyone!

[sbw]

Happy Easter!

In the good news department, after her final plasmapheresis, Mrs. sbw will be sprung tomorrow from the wonderful neuro unit at Upstate in Syracuse. She still has residual sensory nerve problems in her legs and feet but motors okay and maybe they will repair in months.

She is balanced, happy, and, we both agree, we are blessed.

Overnight blustery winds are passing and the sun is shining through.

[Extraneus]

AP via Washington Times:

Melania Trump escapes to Mar-a-Lago amid calls to leave president

With fresh details spilling into the headlines daily about how Donald Trump allegedly cheated on her early in their marriage, the former model escaped the intense glare by spending the past week at the family’s estate in Palm Beach, Florida, with their 12-year-old son, Barron.

[Extraneus]

On Mrs. Trump’s first full day away, when the president also was at their Mar-a-Lago estate, Trump had dinner not with her but with attorney Michael Cohen - who [what, no "allegedly"?] paid porn actress Stormy Daniels $130,000 in 2016 to keep her from going public with her story of a 2006 tryst with Trump. The Trumps did dine together on Thursday night after the president returned to Florida, with boxing promoter Don King stopping by to chat.

Some say the first lady should exit her 13-year union with Trump, much like Hillary Clinton was urged to do after President Bill Clinton’s affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky became public in the late 1990s.

[Extraneus]

Some say the AP is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

[sbw]

Clarice: large numbers of Americans are losing faith in our institutions and the people who have been running them.

On target and an essential distinction: The underlying disease is NOT the institutions, but DEFINITELY the people running them:
1. It’s pure Antonio Gramsci that the enemy’s war will won not with weapons but by a long march through the institutions.
2. They want us to give up institutions that have worked.
3. Therefore, the corruption of the institutions needs to be countered, not the institutions rejected.
4. The actions, intents, and substance of fifth column soldiers are all fair game for criticism
5. They will accuse us of doing what they do to have us fire into our own ranks.
6. This war of words can only be won through identifying, labeling, and laughing at their stupidity, not giving in to it.

[Extraneus]

David Hogg Takes Photo With GOP Candidate Wearing A T-Shirt Featuring Trump Pissing On CNN

(Click to enlarge.)

[sbw]

Ext: Some say...
I agree.

Whenever “Some say”, AP is at its most insidious.

“Some” do not “say”. AP reporters and editors want to promote their personal views.

Named individuals say. The rest are rumors unworthy of reporting. Rumors have NO business in real news.

[Extraneus]

In case you missed this shining example of "journalism," SB:

THIS IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TO OUR DEMOCRACY

[clarice feldman]

Thanks. How comforting is it that ABC will be one of the arbiters of fake news?

[hoyden]

When ABC yells "fake!" we can be assured there is at least a grain of truth.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

onald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Border Patrol Agents are not allowed to properly do their job at the Border because of ridiculous liberal (Democrat) laws like Catch & Release. Getting more dangerous. “Caravans” coming. Republicans must go to Nuclear Option to pass tough laws NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL!
=======================================

So, he is well aware of that group moving up through Mexico. Mitch McConnell is put on notice to get cracking.

Happy Easter! LOL!

[Jack is Back!]

So, I go on the Southampton Patch and find out that the temps will reach 60F today and that tomorrow at mid-morning they are expecting 2-3" of snow. So good to be in Belgium where the crocus, iris and daffodils are in bloom, leaves are starting to fill the trees and its rain not snow in our future.

I am trying to remember the last time it snowed in April in Southampton.

[Momto2]

A commenter on Clarice's wonderful Pieces (thank you, Clarice) shared this link to a beautiful rendition of the Messiah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtrIpTUbtc8

We're enjoying it while baking scones.

[JimNorCal]

Happy Easter and, err, April Fools Day.
https://youtu.be/tVo_wkxH9dU

[clarice feldman]

9:58 s/b AP.

(Cat helping me with my work this morning.Right now she's chewing on my mouse cord.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3m3 minutes ago

Mexico is doing very little, if not NOTHING, at stopping people from flowing into Mexico through their Southern Border, and then into the U.S. They laugh at our dumb immigration laws. They must stop the big drug and people flows, or I will stop their cash cow, NAFTA. NEED WALL!
==================================

More shots fired!

[Foo Bar]

1993 was a peak year for crime, so baseline games are being played here. Still, case closed, right?

The number of firearms may have increased since the early 90s, but that's because guns per person among gun owners has increased. The percentage of households with at least 1 gun has decreased since the early 90s. Several independent polls have found a downward trend over the past several decades in the share of households with guns.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2m2 minutes ago

These big flows of people are all trying to take advantage of DACA. They want in on the act!

[maryrose]

Happy Easter to all JOMers.
May you all rejoice in your faith and family.
Sweet dreams to Catsmeat, improved good health to Mrs SBW and PD in Detroit.
Gratitude for recovery of Momto 2 and KK.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Having a hard time understanding your point foo bar. If it's that large arsenals among gun owners do not contribute to crime then I concur.
Or perhaps it's that the laws already on the books work well. Concur again.

Have to wonder though if you have analyzed the NYT's much more spurious graph regarding immigration and crime similarly?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Stolen from Twitter:

For tablet:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZs-hdEX4AAaMMM.jpg

[Foo Bar]

If it's that large arsenals among gun owners do not contribute to crime then I concur.

I know you won't agree with this, but in my opinion, the polls I cited at least suggest the possibility that a decrease in the share of households with easy access to a gun may be connected to the decrease in gun homicide rate. It doesn't prove causation, but that theory is at least as plausible as the idea that the increase in total number of privately owned guns has helped decrease the gun homicide rate.

[Jack is Back!]

Momto2,

Wonderful baroque orchestra and chorale. They are in Prague and have a reknown "Music Bridge" program where they also are resident in the Annekirch in Dresden.

[JimNorCal]

re: foob "percentage of households with at least 1 gun has decreased since the early 90s"

WaPo link so probably lies. Still, would be interesting to see a similar survey with immigrants filtered out if they are from a country with no history of gun ownership.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Seems rather less plausible since the vast vast majority of crimes, including homicide are committed by people for whom easy access to firearms is always a given.
Your theory requires us to believe that the drop in numbers of households with guns includes the violent offenders who commit the vast majority of homicides.
Unless you believe 49% of homicides were committed by otherwise law abiding citizens all of whom decided they didn't want a gun in their home just in case they went berserk in the future.
The contingency is a remote one.

[Jack is Back!]

Iggy,

Foo Bar may have inadvertenly touch on a demographic anomaly I have noticed. As we gray as gun owners, hunters, shooters, and collectors, who are taking our place? Our kids are being brainwashed everyday to the Bill Ayers SJW testament. Would love to see the gun buys by age group 18-35 in the last few years on a per capita basis to the gun buys per capita in say 1985, 1995 and 2005.

Its possible that Media Hogg may be ruining Ayers script by mouthing off the negative which may reverse the trend among the millenial set.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

And you seem reluctant to apply your withering analysis to the Times laughable "myth" immigrant graph.
You're not polishing your cool analytical bona fides by ignoring that groaner in lieu of specious gun arguments.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

JiB, the downtrend seems fairly clearly related to evil "mass incarceration" and beefed up and altered law enforcement techniques, more than anything.

[Another Bob]

foobar, there is no poll about gun ownership that's worth the pixels it's displayed on, particularly when handgun ownership is included. This is because very few sensible gunowners will discuss their gun ownership with strangers.

The progs are also well-underway in the process of driving semiautomatic rifle ownership into similar shadows.

[Jack is Back!]

Iggy,

Not everyone in that millenial age group is part of a mass incarceration. I still think the demographic on gun buys by (lets say) white non-hispanic between 18-35 is down compared to 20 years ago on a per capita basis. If it is not then our millenials are less affected by the 24/7 evil news of guns than I am assuming.

Would love to see those stats but have no idea where to find them. Is there an FFL association who collects that data?

[Threadkiller]

NO MORE DACA DEAL!

4D!!

[Threadkiller]

Happy Easter All!

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--Not everyone in that millenial age group is part of a mass incarceration.--

No, just the criminals.

[Jane]

SBW,

Your news made my Easter! I'm very happy for you guys!

[Jack is Back!]

Criminals are not known to be legal purchasers of guns but non-criminals are known to purchase them legally. I would still like to see the stats since I think our education system may be playing a role in reversing the attraction of being legally armed for either protection or sport.

Of course, that is my opinion like the one I had about Loyola going all the way.

[anonamom]

sbw, happy to get the good report!

For your consideration:
(Peripheral nerves essentially being brain cells outside the skull, with the exception of the optic nerve, which is the only part of the brain clinicians can see.)

https://smartdrugsmarts.com/healing-brain-with-omega-3s/

My nephew's neurologist prescribed fish oil for him post concussion. Well, had him increase it. My extended family takes it daily.

You can read all you want to about it:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fish+oil+miners+recovery&oq=fish+oil+miners+recovery&aqs=chrome..69i57.5406j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Dr. Barry Sears wrote what I read about it early on. Yes, he is the Zone guy.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

That may very well be true JiB.
But I doubt it has any measurable effect on crime stats.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Happy Easter!

Prayers out for those in need.

Congrats to those with good news!

Heading to the daughter's in a bit to take Ariel an Easter basket. Some toys and a water mat to play on on the back deck. It bubbles up little fountains like the Centennial Park fountain, should be fun once the weather stays warm.

She's crawling and sitting up and still the happiest baby ever. Never cries. Just an "Aaaat" if she wants some attention.

[Jack is Back!]

anonamom,

Did you see my Q about an annual shot for older people for bronchitis? Is there such a thing? Not asking for a friend or myself but it was brought up today in our pre-meal discussions. I had never heard of any annual shot except the Flu one?

[clarice feldman]

Watch out for the next press feature storieshttps://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/mexico-aids-easter-invasion-of-over-1-000-illegals-into-us

[clarice feldman]

good news, SBw.

[maryrose]

Steph :
Thanks for the update on Ariel.
Now go and spoil her!

[Jack is Back!]

If only we could station a squadron of A-10's on the border. Fear of God would do more than the Catch and Release program. Believe me a few strafing runs would convince them to try Chile or Columbia.

[Extraneus]

Imagine being a lib and reading that piece with glee.

[rubbing hands] "Look at this, Mabel! Thousands of Hondurans coming to penetrate Drumpf's border security with the assistance of the Mexican government! This is so great!"

And they say we don't need military-style weapons.

[Momto2]

sbw - great news! Prayers that your wife continues to improve.
BTW - I am enjoying your book although I have only gotten a few pages read. Grading research papers ( and, I admit, JOM) is reducing available hours to read. Spring break coming up so I look forward to finishing it next week.

Here in the ATL area, we are supposed to have the warmest day in the last 5 months.

Stephanie - enjoy that granddaughter - I can't wait to make Easter baskets again when I am blessed with grandchildren. My favorite things to concoct when mine were little were Christmas stockings and Easter baskets.

[Jack is Back!]

The Sun is out here in Antwerpen. Brilliant as a NATO F-16 buzzes the house:) Belgian driven. Airbase is about 20 miles north of us. No TV since my FIL moved to a condo and the house and gardens are empty until we come and use it. But plenty of books. I am reading A.C. Grayling's "The Age of Reason: The Seventeenth Century and The Birth of the Modern Mind".

There is no reference to Master Hogg in there.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Harry Stein of Harry and Tonto fame on the new Roseanne.
He is not too impressed.

[Old Lurker]

What? Say every 250 yards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL7VBPsgs20

[Extraneus]

From Harry Stein:

One wonders: could they really not find any actual conservative writers in Hollywood? Have they all been blacklisted?

Pretty sad, since libs aren't funny.

[-peter]

sbw, glad that your wife is feeling better..

[clarice feldman]

Author nails it:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/30/red-blue-america-clinton-trump-country-217760

[lyle]

Are we to understand Momto2 is now grading JOM? 😉

Happy Easter, everyone. If only Man Tran were flying through Boise today rather than yesterday. Alas.

[Buckeye]

Excellent news SBW!

In the spirit of Happy Easter and Passover I will share a tune I recently discovered.

https://youtu.be/b1FqZCtc_W8

The young kid playing guitar is someone I have been following on YouTube for years. College guy who can play most anything with strings and pretty much any genre. Very talented.

The young lady is new to me.

Perhaps Clarice or JimmyK can tell us the gist of her song.

[narciso]

He is risen, wonderful news sbw.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Glasater, I just saw the Flickr pictures of the Blue Mountain. They are great.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallawallaphotos/41020929961/

[Momto2]

Ha! lyle ~ Mostly all A's as the D's and F's are killfiles.

[Jane]

I don't know if this has been posted: Deal or No Deal – There’s a Transparency Within Two Factions of DOJ and FBI Political “Small Group”…

But it's pretty interesting.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/30/deal-or-no-deal-theres-a-transparency-within-two-factions-of-doj-and-fbi-political-small-group/#more-147551

[clarice feldman]

Sorry, Buckeye I don't understand Hebrew.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/salena-zito-the-middle-of-somewhere Selena again--

[Captain Hate]

Tonto's Harry confirmed every trepidation I had about spending any time on that show. However the Horde gives megadildos up to the new Coen Brothers movie, Hail Caesar, which apparently featured Jethro Bodine Clooney unwittingly (natch) giving a self skewering performance.

[GUS]

Jack @ 10:56 BINGO, I had that EXACT conversation on the way home from Mass, my boy understood precisely.

[Buckeye]

That is interesting Jane.

We could have a second SC, which would most likely devolve into a political show pony operation, or we can nail some hides to the wall much sooner.

Like meybe before November.

Still not giving up my spot on The Ledge, but this is promising.

[sbw]

I’ll gladly pass on your prayers, good wishes, and pleasure to Mrs. sbw this afternoon when I join her for tea. We sneak into the pediatric “treehouse” and survey the panorama view of the city as we sip.

Momto2, bite-sized chunks are best anyway. Incidentally, Mrs. sbw bought her own copy rather than have me give her one. Heh!

Anon, I’ll pass on the fish oil. Any recommended form or dosage that is easy to go down?

Jane, and anyone else near Ft. Myers, looks like Apr 22-28.

[GUS]

He is RISEN....INDEEEEED.

[Abadman]

Happy Easter one and all,

About last night...

It seems appropriate for Easter to note that the left is all too often willing to see us as less than human, not only wrong but evil, deplorable, IRREDEEMABLE. Throughout history the first step in oppression, destroying lives, killing, is to make a group less than Human, I do get it.

With what seems at times a constant onslaught of this, it's hard to remember on our part to hate the sin not the sinner.

This whole Hogg Ingram thing, no matter how mild, and yes true, her Tweet was, does in some small way illustrate this. She was counting Coup more than fighting.

If a friends kid called me a "pathetic f***er" etc. I think he should be corrected, even ridiculed. I hope though, I would stop short of calling him pinch faced Nancy boy who will likely never reproduce.

I am likely wrong this particular instance is where a line should be drawn. I do think we need to start thinking about where to draw them.

Thanks for Humoring me. I gotta get back to work now and wont be able to respond for awhile.

[anonamom]

JiB, never heard of anything that prevents bronchitis. Other than eating good food and moving in the sunshine (vitamin D).

I am all about increasing my immune surveillance now that I am getting old and all my misspent youth in the summer sun catching up with me, so if I figure that out, I'll share it.

[GUS]

Abadman, would you notice and mention his ZIT face??

[Buckeye]

Just got a text from Jr.

Perils of being "on call" and little seniority means he can't make dinner this evening.

Too bad, guess I will have to eat his share of the pineapple upside down cake:)

Don't tell anonamom, but I am cheatin' on my diet today.

[sbw]

Oh, and regarding the number of households, I can’t tell you the number of people I have mentored to get CC permits and handle themselves comfortably and safely.

As far as any decline, I would expect those to be libs oblivious to the lessons of history. If you are going to be foolish, you shouldn’t have such things in your hands anyway.

[lyle]

Yes, best wishes to mrs. sbw.

And now all 15 have shown up for Easter brunch. SYL

[lyle]

Do read Clarice’s 12:27. I’m sure many of us could cite similar chats our family and friends. Praise the Lord it’s not the other way around.

[Buckeye]

Couple thought about this supposed decline in households with a firearm.

Do thugs live in "households"?

How do you do a survey and get meaningful statistical information about this?

When the come to my door, I'm lyin' for sure.

[Buckeye]

the s/b they

[clarice feldman]

Former Comey fan boy confesses disappointment:http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/381145-comeys-book-tour-is-a-colossal-mistake

[narcisocenfl]

An interesting story about the pieces selection, is an echo of prerevolutionary Russia, the known wolf problem, azev the second in command to savinkov in the srs was an okrana asset, bely (aka Alexander blok) dramatizes this in Petersburg, which was a little like if ee cumings wrote a political novel, and of course solzhenitsyn in the first volume of the red wheel wondered about stolypins assassin begaev.

[David, Deplorable Russian Internet Dreamer Bot]

I am posting this because it is Easter.

Today is Easter Sunday, when we celebrate the resurrection of our Lord, Jesus Christ. However, Christ was not just the redeemer of the world, he was a pioneer in other ways also. Tacitus, the Roman historian, tells us:

And the Gallilean's followers gathered at the tomb on the third day after his crucifixion. It was the beginning of the fourth lunar month. They were dismayed to find the sarcophagus still sealed, and when they rolled away the stone, the body lay as it had been placed after death. They began to wail and mourn, "He should have risen from the dead!" Then the Christ sat up from his slab and said, "Surprise! Fooled you!" And thus was born April Fool's jokes.

Funny how that bit never made it into the New Testament accounts of the resurrection.

David