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April 30, 2018

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narciso

the odious nature of the two minute hate, I mentioned earlier, but tongue planted in cheek:

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/990958813065957377

Tom R

Responding to TK from the last thread.

Saul Montes Bradley is a friend of LTG Flynn. The ABC News article about him having to sell his house to pay legal fees is Fake News.

https://twitter.com/debradelai/status/971220521621774336?s=21

narciso

Only the second time around, tom r, if satan had scripted that routine would he have done anything different?

Jane

I wish everyone would stop talking about Wolf and never mention her name again.

Tom R

Narciso I don’t get your point. Flynn sold his house for the same reason millions of other people do: he was moving somewhere else, in this case back home to Rhode Island.

Appalled

TM:

You watched that routine, why?

jimmyk

Must be something about red-haired comediennes.

Regardless of why Flynn sold his home, presumably he's had legal expenses.

David, Deplorable Russian Internet Dreamer Bot

I am totally behind the curve here. Answering JMHanes from the thread before last.

Have you been to Japan?

Yes. I lived in Japan for two years as a Mormon missionary in the mid-1980s. Since then, I have been back a couple of times for business, but those were really oddball jobs. Haven't been back in about twenty years, though.

Do you have a cultural interest in Japan, or primarily business?

Mostly cultural. I became interested in Japanese history, literature, and culture when I lived there, and have maintained that interest. I have taken several graduate level courses in Japanese literature in the original classical Japanese at UCLA and USC.

And now the big question: Do you watch Japanese historical TV dramas?

When I can find them. My wife and I write Japanese historical fiction and fantasy, some of which is set in the Heian period. It is incredibly difficult to find anything on that period in English, so we have gone through a couple of the NHK dramas, like "Kiyomori" as well as "Yoshitsune" and used them for inspiration on the setting.

Regrettably, in my experience, the English subtitles on the Blu-Ray versions are nearly worthless.

David

henry

Its easy to unwatch if you avoid watching (or clicking on links) in the first place.

narciso

think what you will:

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/260862/m-project-franklin-delano-roosevelt-jews

Tom R

Regardless of why Flynn sold his home, presumably he's had legal expenses

Of course Flynn has had some legal fees. The issue is if these legal fees have "financially wrecked" Flynn to the point he had to sell his house. There is zero concrete evidence that is the case.

narciso

something in short supply,


http://www.libertylawsite.org/book-review/statesman-plutarch-and-the-statesmans-qualities-of-soul/

jimmyk

The issue is if these legal fees have "financially wrecked" Flynn to the point he had to sell his house.

That is AN issue. Not THE issue. How much loss is ok to inflict on an innocent person? Anything so long as he doesn't have to sell his home? Or up to some percentage of his net worth?

henry

CNBC @CNBC
3m

Netanyahu: Iran has secret 'Project Amad' to design, produce and test warheads

narciso

they dinged colonel north, because he accepted a security offense, destruction of documents, I know snorfle, and some other nuisance charge, reversed on appeal, because the jackalopes didn't read the immunity agreement,

Jane

Netenyaho: Iran has never complied with the deal - from day one.

Thomas Collins

Re Michelle Wolf: What a vile and boring prog screecher. I'm glad she is not a troll here. She makes me appreciate DublinDave.

narciso

Its was the late Dr. Amiri, that provided the corrective to pillar relying of that other fellow for the 2007 nie

henry

Yonah Jeremy Bob
‏ @jeremybob1

BREAKING: Netanyahu: 2017 Iran moved nuke secret weapons files to Shorabad district secret location. Weeks ago Israeli mossad found half ton material inside these walls. 55,000 pages in 183 safes.
10:14 AM - 30 Apr 2018

https://twitter.com/jeremybob1/status/991002831405703174?s=12

narciso

Asghari, don't tell Terry Anderson's bug nutz crazy daughter her published scribble blamed the missad for her daughters plight.

Tom R

That is AN issue. Not THE issue. How much loss is ok to inflict on an innocent person? Anything so long as he doesn't have to sell his home? Or up to some percentage of his net worth?

Now you are moving the goalposts. There have been several Ledge dwellers here who have cited on multiple occasions they could not subscribe to the 4D chess theory because Flynn has been financially wrecked. I guess the assumption is why would Flynn be a part of such a intricate scheme to destroy the Deep State if it was going to require him to make such a huge personal sacrifice. I am just pointing out there is zero concrate evidence that Flynn was financially ruined due to exorbitant legal fees. The ABC news article TK linked is Fake News according to one of Flynn's personal friends. He sold his house for the normal reason that he was moving somewhere else.

I agree with you that Flynn is innocent of the charges he pled guilty to. Unless you subscribe to the 4D chess theory that Flynn was part of an intricate sting operation, it makes zero sense that he would admit guilt in that situation knowing he did nothing legally wrong. Assuming there is no 4D chess theory, if Flynn knew he was innocent why did he turn down Trump's offer to pay for his legal fees? Mueller's case against him wouldn't have cost him a penny.

jimmyk

Tom R, I'm not moving goalposts, because I've never used the term "financially wrecked," or anything like that. But to get to the point:

Unless you subscribe to the 4D chess theory that Flynn was part of an intricate sting operation, it makes zero sense that he would admit guilt in that situation knowing he did nothing legally wrong.

No, it doesn't make zero sense. This happens all the time because people are afraid of the power of the government to get them convicted (and/or "financially wrecked" in the process). Look what happened to Libby. So yes, Flynn may have copped a plea to avoid getting "Libbyed." And that may be why he has only been financially harmed and not wrecked.

As to why he turned down Trump's offer, who knows? Maybe he's proud. Maybe he thought it would make Trump look bad. You'll have to ask him.

jimmyk

Typhuspad getting flaky again...

narciso

So there were 5 such projects and they were run by fekrizadeh, the mastermind of the pre 2007 project.

narciso

Along these lines:


https://mobile.twitter.com/jeremybob1/status/991004906764034048?p=v

narciso

The horde noticed the fight (Bristol beatdown)
That turned into a hockey game (bibi reveal)

henry

sure... pump this crap:

Michael Avenatti @MichaelAvenatti

Moments ago, we filed this lawsuit against Mr. Trump for his recent irresponsible and defamatory statements about my client @StormyDaniels. He is well aware of what transpired and his complicity. We fully intend on bringing it to light. #buckleup #basta

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cghg5fwc42lh7y7/Complaint.pdf?dl=0

Tom R

Speaking of Stormy Daniels, thanks to her accusations against Trump she has had increased bookings at strip clubs around the country and has even started making porn movies again. I guess this is more proof of Trump's ability to get unemployed Americans back to work.

narciso

Meh, that's geraldo getting skimmed by metzgers chair, its like the blank pages in they live or the tabloid cover stories in kingsman.

Texas Liberty Gal

When told of Israel's revelations about Iran Obama was unavailable for comment.

Daddy - thx for giving me the name of that book!

Beasts of England

Stormy Daniels is a public figure. If you know what I mean...

narciso

Jen Rubin has gone stark raving, well just a day ending in y,

True Justice

Bonespur McChicken will cut and run.leaving Afghanistan ..coward

narciso


There's an understatement:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/30/amber-rudd-resignation/

Rocco

Obama's FBI Knew Russia Aided Iran Nuclear Program Before Uranium One & Iran Deal: Report

"In other words - Obama's "scandal free" administration approved the Uranium One deal and spearheaded the Iran Nuclear Deal after the FBI, headed at the time by Robert Mueller knew, according to Campbell, that:

Russian nuclear executives routed millions in bribe money to a Clinton charity as part of a "uranium dominance strategy." The Clinton Foundation received $145 million in donations from parties connected to Uranium One - in particular, mining executive and close Clinton pal Frank Giustra. Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm, Transport Logistics International (TLI) in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act – which bribed a Russian nuclear official in exchange for a contract transport Russian-mined U.S. uranium, including "yellowcake" uranium secured in the Uranium One deal. A Russian nuclear executive connected to the Uranium One deal engaged in a money laundering and bribery scheme with a United States trucking company, DAHER-TLI.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-26/obamas-fbi-knew-russia-aided-iran-nuclear-program-uranium-one-iran-deal-report

Extraneus

The issue is if these legal fees have "financially wrecked" Flynn to the point he had to sell his house.

In the piece I linked in the previous thread with the accompanying surfing pic, one of Flynn's brothers spoke of a legal defense fund he was setting up. If this was done, it was done more quietly than McCabe's GoFundMe, and we haven't heard about the amount raised.

Captain Hate

Jen Rubin has gone stark raving, well just a day ending in y,

No, no, no; according to the paranoid prosecutor RedState has had A CHILLING EFFECT on the poor NeverTrumper's ability to spew delusional propaganda inform the public.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
26m26 minutes ago

I recently had a terrific meeting with a bipartisan group of freshman lawmakers who feel very strongly in favor of Congressional term limits. I gave them my full support and endorsement for their efforts. #DrainTheSwamp

===============================

Well, this should start even more controversy!

James D.

Jen Rubin has gone stark raving, well just a day ending in y,

What point is there in reading her? She's had nothing of value to say for at least the last two and a half years, and really for a while before that.

henry

Did Flynn get sentenced yet?

maryrose

Rocco:
Your post above is the most important one today.

Account Deleted

The "had to sell his home" meme was just ABC's way of intimidating officials re Deep State clout.

From "we'll bury you" to "we'll ruin you" in a little over 50 years---- the Kremlin morphs into the Deep State *IN* America.

What does LTG Flynn's attorney have to say about the financial impact? Or is that ATT-CLI privelege?

lyle

I’d rather see Stormy naked than Jen. Who’s with me?!

Extraneus

MSNBC Cuts Away Early From Netanyahu Presentation on Iran Nuclear Program

henry

Lyle, I'll stick with beer.

JimNorCal

Appalled: "TM: You watched that routine, why?"

He reads the flailing NY Times, too.
Young people like TM feel bulletproof ... till they learn they are not. Just sayin'

Miss Marple the Deplorable

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/2018/04/30/us-secretary-interior-jump-start-womans-car-gatlinburg-smoky-mountain/564880002/

Extraneus
The Israeli prime minister began his presentation around 1:10 p.m. EST. CNN and Fox News carried his remarks live, while the progressive-leaning MSNBC cut in nearly four minutes after he started. While Netanyahu wound up speaking for nearly 18 minutes total in English, MSNBC stuck with Netanyahu's remarks for about six minutes before cutting away for host Chris Jansing to speak to former U.S. Ambassador to NATO Nicholas Burns.

"I think we ought to stay in. All the evidence so far from the IAEA is that Iran is complying with this deal," Burns said. "It makes sense to the United States to stay in. Our national interests would be advanced by that."

MSNBC went to commercial after Burns spoke and aired a segment on progressive primary wars in 2018 when it returned. Meanwhile, Netanyahu was still speaking.

What a tool. I didn't see Netanyahu's remarks, but I understand he cited evidence that the IAEA didn't have.

lurkersusie

Here's the fund set up for General Flynn
General Flynn
General Flynn
@GenFlynn
·
Sep 18
Lori and I are very grateful to my brother Joe and sister Barbara for creating a fund to help pay my legal defense costs. 1/2

General Flynn
General Flynn
@GenFlynn
We deeply appreciate the support of family and friends across this nation who have touched our lives.

https://t.co/O08co3DRpn?amp=1

Threadkiller

The ABC news article TK linked is Fake News according to one of Flynn's personal friends.

I didn't see where Flynn's friend explained away that Flynn's brother was the source of the story.

I would have expected "I talked to my friend and he said his brother said no such thing!"

He doesn't mention it at all.

Account Deleted

"
Rocco:
Your post above is the most important one today.
"

Rocco--- at risk of being one angel too many on the head of that pin, I'll say this much about your post: it was quite informative and most appreciated. -Kev (FWIW)

and then there's this....

At risk of being branded a misogynist and upping my Killfile quotient, i didn't realize we had an authority present who deemed posts for such superlative recognition.

Dave (in MA)

I don't think I ever heard of this Wolf person before, and in 10 minutes I probably wouldn't be able to recall her name if asked.

Rocco

Thanks maryrose! I think they're almost at the end of their rope and trying to run out the clock, hoping that big blue wave will wash it all away. It's becoming more and more evident to me Muellers no good. Both Comey and Brennan threatened President Trump with Mueller...that tells me something!

Appalled

I keep scratching my head on why certain posters have such a problem with maryrose. Is the Paul Ryan support that offensive to our delicate tough guys?

Extraneus

More Mueller Conflicts of Interest – His Former Employer is Manafort’s Law Firm!

The Special Counsel law requires that the Attorney General or Assistant Attorney General ensure that the appointed Special Counsel has no conflicts of interest. There is no way that Rod Rosenstein could have determined that Robert Mueller had no conflicts of interest. Congress should request the data related to this assessment and address obvious flaws in approving Mueller, remove Mueller and prosecute Rosenstein for lying and failing his duty as Assistant AG!

Article 600.3.b states in part that that – “The Attorney General shall consult with the Assistant Attorney General for Administration to ensure an appropriate method of appointment, and to ensure that a Special Counsel undergoes an appropriate background investigation and a detailed review of ethics and conflicts of interest issues.”

Mueller is best friends [?] with James Comey who was and is a key player in the FISA and Trump scandals. That alone should have disqualified Mueller from being the Special Counsel. But Mueller has much more. Mueller was the FBI Director during the Uranium One scandal. He even delivered uranium to Russia on an airport tarmac in Europe per Hillary Clinton’s instructions! Any conflict of interest should have disqualified Mueller due to the sensitivity, legal nature and importance of the mandate of the Special Counsel. This was a setup!

Gateway gets a little carried away sometimes (are they really "best" friends?, but the point is valid. How could Mueller pass a conflict of interest review?

Account Deleted

When I learned LTG Flynn sold his home I figured that a man of means will restructure his assets to handle significant legal fees to dispose of them ASAP.

Were the proceeds of the sale of his home applied directly to paying the legal fees? Were the proceeds the only way to meet legal costs incurred by the setup/witch hunt? The rooster crowed and the sun came up....

The real story isn't that he sold his home. Not my business.

The real story and what is my business is this stranglehold by the LAWFARE State setting up traps where the targets are guilty of something until they can prove that they are not guilty of anything.

Extraneus

He made money on the house, from what I've read.

Another Bob

Stop stirring pots Appalled.

If you don’t get it, you never will. Move on.

lyle

I don’t have a problem with maryrose, she dubbed me “frick.” Now that’s a badge of honor!

Wait. Or was I “frack”? 😎

Miss Marple the Deplorable


The White House
‏Verified account @WhiteHouse
22m22 minutes ago

Just Announced: US Delegation to China later this week to include Ambassadors Brandstand and Lighthizer, Secretaries Mnuchin and Ross, and others. They will discuss the trade relationship between the countries beginning Thursday.

clarice feldman

TP was hinky for over an hour agai.
Henry, I goofed and thought today was May 1, the day of the flynn sentencing hearing.

Extraneus

Clintons Orchestrate Rise From Ashes With $100,000 Dinner, Bill's Novel, And Chelsea's Twitter Game

(Click to enlarge.)

The twitter game is what'll put them back on top.

Extraneus

U.S. Confirms Authenticity of Secret Iran Nuclear Docs, Officials See Game Over for Deal

U.S. officials and congressional insiders view the disclosure Monday by Israel of Iran's ongoing efforts to develop a nuclear weapon as game over for the landmark nuclear deal, telling the Washington Free Beacon that new evidence of Iran's top secret nuclear workings makes it virtually impossible for President Donald Trump to remain in the agreement.

Senior Trump administration officials confirmed the findings as authentic and praised Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's for disclosing thousands of secret documents proving Iran lied about its past work on a nuclear warhead, telling the Free Beacon the revelation was a "powerful presentation" by Israel outlining why the Iran deal must be fixed or killed.

Tom R

I didn't see where Flynn's friend explained away that Flynn's brother was the source of the story.

I would have expected "I talked to my friend and he said his brother said no such thing!"

He doesn't mention it at all.

TK,

You are more than welcome to believe the ABC News article written by two leftwingers is 100% factually accurate if that helps you justify your position on the Ledge. More power to you.

Extraneus

And yet more confusion in the Admiral Jackson saga.

Daily Caller:

Ronny Jackson Is OUT As The White House Physician — Check Out The Possible Replacements

After Ronny Jackson dropped his bid to become the next secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, he also lost the opportunity to hold his previous post as the personal physician to the president.

Why? They don't say.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

What Saul says about tomorrow, May 1:


Saul Montes-Bradley
‏ @Debradelai
16h16 hours ago

Saul Montes-Bradley Retweeted Barry Sharp

Mueller advised the court he was not ready for sentencing.
Then there was a modifield order to produce exculpatory evidence, and a protective order on the evidence presented.

May 1st there's supposed to be a Joint Statement by Mueller & defense.

Eye Doctor

The BCCI scandal tells you everything you need to know about deep state player Robert Mueller

Frau Niemand

narciso's 9:13

In 1925, while undergoing therapy for polio at Warm Springs, Georgia, FDR wrote a series of columns for the Macon Telegraph, including one that touched on his ideas about immigration. He praised elements of Canada’s immigration policy, especially its regulations “to prevent large groups of foreign born from congregating in any one locality.” Roosevelt added: “If, twenty-five years ago, the United States had adopted a policy of this kind we would not have the huge foreign sections which exist in so many of our cities.”

The future president remarked that “no sensible American wants this country to be made a dumping ground for foreigners of any nation, but it is equally true that there are a great many foreigners who, if they came here, would make exceedingly desirable citizens. It becomes, therefore, in the first place, a question of selection.” Roosevelt informed his readers that “a little new European blood of the right sort does a lot of good in every community.”

I knew that FDR was no friend of the Jews but had no hard evidence. No wonder there was no admittance during WWII except for some artists and scientists, of course. Not only ships but planes were turned back to Europe and sure death for the refugees; those were the ones--FDR's right sort--who had the money to flee.

Joke from my childhood:

"I hate war;
Eleanor hates war;
And I hate Eleanor."

Captain Hate

I can't believe Slick gets top billing for a book in which he probably didn't write a word. "The President is Missing", maybe he gave some details about where he hid out with Monica.

Frau Niemand

CH - "The President is Missing His Underwear"
Fixed it for them.

JimNorCal

Appalled: "I keep scratching my head on why certain posters have such a problem with maryrose."

It's an elementary principle of human psych that one ONLY gets emotionally angry at another's weaknesses if those weaknesses are threatening in some way to oneself.
Another person's shortcomings might make you sad, contemptuous, puzzled, ... many things. But if you feel the red hot bile rising in your throat, then that shortcoming strikes directly at you. It might be a fault you have yourself, it might be a fault held by someone key to your life (parent, spouse) that you were not able to resolve/handle.

Just two cents.

Captain Hate

Speaking of terrible books:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=375048

And while I'm on the topic of terrible writers who are also fucking liars, the paranoid prosecutor is whining about losing his RedState perch at that bastion of conservative thought, the LA Times.

Threadkiller

TK,

You are more than welcome to believe the ABC News article written by two leftwingers is 100% factually accurate if that helps you justify your position on the Ledge. More power to you.

I have yet to see a response from you that addresses what I actually have said.

4D hyperbole...

Comanche Voter

These lyrics from Dead Skunk In The Middle Of The Road are appropriate for a certain female comedian and her twentyminute hate fest. Loudon Wainwright III had it right when he said the skunk---er Ms. Wolf--shoulda looked left and shoulda looked right. She looked one way--and now her reputation smells.

Crossing the highway late last night
He shoulda looked left and he shoulda looked right
He didn't see the station wagon car
The skunk got squashed and there you are

You got your dead skunk in the middle of the road
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
Stinking to high heaven

Take a whiff on me, that ain't no rose
Roll up your window and hold your nose
You don't have to look and you don't have to see
'Cause you can feel it in your olfactory

You got your dead skunk in the middle of the road
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
And it's stinking to high heaven

Yeah, you got your dead cat and you got your dead dog
On a moonlight night, you got your dead toad frog
Got your dead rabbit and your dead raccoon
The blood and the guts, they're gonna make you swoon

You got your dead skunk in the middle
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
Dead skunk in the middle of the road
Stinking to high heaven
C'mon, stink

Ralph L

IIRC, the old Independent Counsel law reimbursed legal fees for people not convicted.

narcis,o79

It does seem vogon quality writing, specially since he ripped off both x men first class and agent Carter, it's not as bad as pinnetes attempt at Roman a clef that was only serialized In the Paddington, but what could top that.

GUS

The PRESIDENT is Missing his LAW LICENSE. WHY?

GUS

Red State is welcome to employ or NOT employ any one they choose.
To become unemployed by Red State means, Red State was not profiting from the newly unemployed persons, endeavors.

Poooterico got SHITCANNED, because he SHIT wasn't making BIG BOY any profits.

Frau Niemand

It is fitting that Ms. Wolf brought her vomit to the attention of the guests in attendance and the rest of us who could--Gaia be praised!--turn her off.

She is a perfect face for the Democrats, perhaps a second head for a Giffin/Wolf hybird creature.

Frau Niemand

Griffin/Wolf... so much for preadroof!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Secretary Pompeo will deliver remarks to State Department employees tomorrow. Particulars here:

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/04/281321.htm

I hope he lays down the law and a bunch of them quit.

GUS

I'm sure that I'll get a phone call Miss M.

Dave (in MA)


.

But he's not CROOKED!

Trump screws his pants on..

But he's not CROOKED!

Pompeo laid Kim

clarice feldman

TM, I have to swipe the draft of your post eveytime I open a page on this thread.

Extraneus

Did you say...

Kathy Griffin Takes Back Trump Apology on ‘The View’: ‘F*ck Him’

Appalled

Given the pre-Presidency escapades of the current President, jokes about the escapades of the past President seem like an invitation to mass quantities of tu quoque.

Appalled

Ext:

Stormy says -- been there, done that....

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--TM:

You watched that routine, why? --

So you wouldn't have to.
You're welcome.

Tom R

Griffin must be jealous of Wolf for replacing her as the most admired comedian by unhinged Trump haters.

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Speaking of falling down, the Diabetic Latina is having her shoulder replaced according to The Horde.

clarice feldman

really, appalled, even if we assumed daniels wasn't a liar represented by an extortionist, is there a claim he raped someone? That he had sexual relations with a young aid in the Oval Office--

Miss Marple the Deplorable

http://www.businessinsider.com/marco-rubio-trump-gop-tax-law-hasnt-helped-2018-4

I wonder who's pulling his strings.

GUS

Raping Juanita Broderick. Clown boy is okay with that. The President of the United States, sticking a cigar up a EMPLOYEE'S vagina, in the Oval Office....is ok with Clown boy. Spewing his semen all over a young interns blue dress, is okay with the Clown.

narcis,o79

Heck there isnt even proof he,was there on the day in question.

Porchlight

Red State is welcome to employ or NOT employ any one they choose.
To become unemployed by Red State means, Red State was not profiting from the newly unemployed persons, endeavors.

GUS,

Yep. You would think one wouldn't have to explain that to people who call themselves conservative.

Frau Niemand

Sounds like a wise thing to do, CH.

Oh, and Highland's own Randa returns, so SOB.

Account Deleted

"The twitter game is what'll put them back on top."

Here are a couple of others to go along with the Spawn's delusional addition to "She Persisted."

1. Bill's heavily air-brushed head shot.
2. Hildo's upward angle pose to keep the pork fat from bulging downward.
3. Hildo's screeching jokes about "chardonnay" and losing.

Appalled

clarice:

There are accusations of sexual assault, as you know, but none of out and out rape. But when people joke here about Clinton, they are talking about Monica and cigars.

The Stormy Daniels stuff is, alas, credible to whether there was a few encounters or not. It matches other reported conduct, when Trump has cheated on his wives. There are a number of other accusations from Daniels that sound over the top. It's kind of hard to miss Daniels is in this for the Benjamins, not just a few Johnsons.

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