Nick Kristof On Gun Control

Nick Kristof explains how to win a gun control argument. His approach seems to be, baffle them with statistics and misleading comparisons. To his credit, he finally acknowledges that the Times and other gun control advocates routinely include suicides when discussing gun deaths. He does not take that point to any logical resting place however.

My reaction:

Broadly, if the goal is to reduce gun suicides the talk about a ban on semiautomatic rifles and large capacity magazines is irrelevant - we don't have a national epidemic of people shooting themselves fifteen times and bleeding out. I should note that Mr. Kristof himself threw in the towel on an assault weapons ban a while back, but (unlike in boxing) a towel can always be picked up again, and semiautomatic rifle bans (broader than a mere assault weapons ban) are certainly being discussed in progressive circles.

Or if we swing the focus back to gun homicides, when the firearm is known (about 3/4 of the time), handguns are used about 90% of the time. Semiautomatic rifles aren't what the gangbangers on the mean streets of Chicago and St Louis are shooting at each other. Folks seriously concerned about homicides and suicides should be arguing about a handgun ban, and good luck with the pesky Heller decision, the politics and eventual enforcement there.

IMHO, what remains true is that many people have examined their lives and concluded that they are:

(a) not involved with criminal activity, especially drug-related;
(b) not in an abusive domestic relationship,
(c) not suicidal, and
(d) not living in a crime-ridden neighborhood

For those fortunate many, the most visible remaining risk of gun violence is a random shooting at a mall, theater, or (for kids and young adults) school.

That sort of mass shooting death kills about 26 people per year (on average since 1966, per the Washington Post). Recent headlines make me suspect the trend is not favorable, a Bold Insight supported by Grant Duwe.

My strong impression is that most of the current public outcry is about the 1% of gun deaths that are relevant to the lives of successful Times readers and suburban parents of school kids, not the 99% of gun deaths that actually kill people.

CALL ME CRAZY: An example of Statistics In Action: Here is Nick Kristof:

There is no constitutional objection to, say, universal background checks to obtain a gun. It’s crazy that 22 percent of guns are obtained without a check.

His link is to a study which does present that 22% figure (transfers in the past two years). As shown by a blue arrow, the dreaded "gun show loophole" was relevant in 3% of aggregate transfers and involved NO background check 22% of the time. Over the past two years the gun shows were 4% of transfers, none without a background check. So the loophole is rarely applied and the background check is rarely avoided, but whatever.

Meanwhile (highlighted in red) roughly 40% of transfers are purchases from a family member, friend or acquaintance (10%), gift or inheritance (25%) or unknown(4%). Call me crazy, but background checks on birthday presents from a devoted spouse to his or her significant other may not be the national crisis with which we need to contend.

Comments

[-peter]

What is the national crisis with which we need to contend?

Is it that I am first?

[jimmyk]

First!

[jimmyk]

Or maybe not!

[Dave (in MA)]

A JOM post with no title.

[-peter]

A horse with no name. It felt good to be out in the rain.

[Tom R]

Reposting from the last thread for the benefit of our Ledge dwellers. I corrected the error I made that Extraneus pointed out.

I'm sure there is a 4th Dimension reason for this which mere mortals cannot grasp. In case you thought Sessions had a temper tantrum last week to address these things.

To understand and appreciate 4D chess theory requires you to factor in what is said/what is done as well as what is not said/what is not done.

I am going to answer your question following the rules of objective, rational logic.

The legislative branch is a coequal branch of government with the executive branch. Congress has oversight of the DOJ/FBI so IAW the Constitution the DOJ/FBI have to fully comply with Congress' request for the complete, unredacted memo. Refusal to comply with Congressional oversight would create a Constitutional crisis and might (on this I am not certain) be legitimate grounds for impeachment.

Why would Sessions/Wray refuse to comply with a Constitutionally legit request from Congress since both of them know full well they are required by the Constitution to do so?

You can add a political angle to that base question. Why would Sessions/Wray refuse to comply with a legit request from a GOP ally (Nunes) in Congress since both of them know full well they are required by the Constitution to do so and the public release of that information could be extremely benefcial to the President and GOP and damaging to the Democrats?

From the Ledge dwellers perspective, it fails the common sense test on every level for Sessions/Wray to not fully (and promptly) comply with this request from Congress.

Next step in the logic flow. Feel free to correct me if this part is wrong but I am fairly certain that in a situation like this any transmission of information, especially if that information is evidence that a crime has been committed, from an executive branch agency to a Congressional oversight committee has to go thru a formal staffing process. In other words, if that information implicates Obama, Biden, Lynch, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Rice or whoever participating in some form of criminal activity then I'm fairly certain Sessions/Wray are not the final authorities to approve sending the memo over to Congress. I think the formal authority is with the President himself. Assuming I am correct about this, the better way to ask the question is this way:

Why would Trump not approve sending the unredacted memo to a GOP ally in Congress when they know they are required by the Constitution to do so and the public release of that information could be extremely benefcial to the President and GOP and damaging to the Democrats?

Trump could easily order Sessions/Wray to give Congress the unredacted memo. Why hasn't he done so?

Now we are in 4D chess territory. Some possible answers off the top of my head.

1. Because the information in the memo is going to be used as evidence in criminal trial proceedings against Obama administration officials.

2. Because they know the date when the DOJ IG report is going to be released and they don't want to weaken the public relations impact of its release plus the IG report is going to have all of that information in it anyways.

3. Because they are intentionally slow-walking the release of the everything related to the criminal corruption of the Obama administration until the September/October timeframe to maximize its impact on 2018 midterms.

Bottom line is this. For whatever reason unknown to us mere mortals who can only speculate, Trump has not authorized release of the unredacted memo to Congress. This is why you factor in what has not been said/what has not been done. The lack of words/actions on Trump's part is a signal. How you interpret that signal is obviously up to you.

[Jim Eagle]

From a link at Ace's. This guy does the best rebuttal to the knee-jerk reactionaries who want to grab your guns. And he doesn't look like a guy you want to mess with, gun or not:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsu6CIZkthc

[henry]

So dimension #4 is your imagination.

[Tom R]

So dimension #4 is your imagination.

No it is just understanding that what is not said/not done in DC can send just as much as a signal as what is said/done.

Can you give a better logical explanation for why Trump hasn't ordered Sessions/Wray to fully comply with Nunes request?

[GUS]

Utter f'ing bullshit. 11% of guns obtained without a background check. Does this fuxstix have a clue.
For every, lets say, 700 murders in Chicago, A GUN FREE ZONE, how many of the perps (black lives matter) had a back ground check.
Libtards are entertainment.

[GUS]

Henry, I no longer read THEO jr's tripe. He says NOTHING. But types a lot. Theo Jr.

[Account Deleted]

From the previous thread, OL goes down the rabbit-hole re "deserve to be saved."

Asked him to share his code which underwrites the standards for what makes one deserving.

Your reply, or should i call it your retort, was: "
My code is inside my head, Kev. Your code is inside yours. Look for it there."

So the "we" statement of your prior post flows from a relativistic premise.

Your code affords you the authority to speculate for the rest of us.

There is little to respect in your retort, OL.

Being non-responsive and retreating into relativistic moral narcissism, as you have with your retort, leaves me no choice but to void my interest in the alcohol-centered Ledge.

Your good-time buddy,

Kev

[narcisocenfl]

Hey Dana, trying to be the coyote again, so Mueller is more likely one of his minions is following the rabbitt re Nader who was a fixer for maliki and as such was brokering Russian weapons

[Tom R]

Has anyone mentioned yet that the entire content's of Hillary's private email server were unknowingly backed up by some cloud service called Datto and that all the emails were provided to the FBI in 2017 who in turn gave them all to the DOJ IG Horowitz?

[Tom R]

Correction. Datto gave the backup of Hillary's email server to the FBI in October 2015. Wray provided the emails to the DOJ IG in 2017.

[Thomas Collins]

Tom R, the most likely explanation is that the people advising Trump are taking into account institutional protection issues and perhaps even matters of legitimate secrecy concern, and Trump is not overriding them at this point. As far as Congress's leverage, don't expect FBI/DOJ critters to be going to jail on contempt citations over this. This process will work slowly, and Trump's suddenly declassifying these documents is just not in the cards.

As to four-D chess, here's another TC bet proposal (and those who were in on the prior one know I keep my word on these things). For anyone in on the bet, if by June 1, 2020, an indictment has been rendered against either Clinton or Obama or Rice or Comey or Brennan or Clapper, I'll secure another tattoo and text a pic of it to you or invite you to my hood for a public viewing (as with the first bet, the tat will be in a safe for work location). For anyone who wants in, please let me know your side of the bet.

[henry]

better logical explanation for why Trump hasn't ordered Sessions/Wray to fully comply with Nunes request?

Trump is too busy running the country to fulfill your 4D daydreams? Or maybe other things are more important to Trump right now. (Iran, lunch, his next tweet).

You are the one making unsupported leaps. Prove your own support.

[Tom R]

Tom R, the most likely explanation is that the people advising Trump are taking into account institutional protection issues and perhaps even matters of legitimate secrecy concern, and Trump is not overriding them at this point.

I will stipulate your explanation is 100% correct. Since Trump made the final call, doesn't that make all the rants attacking Sessions/Wray for stonewalling Congress completely unjustified?

[Old Lurker]

Wouldn't want you there anymore anyway, Kev. I mentioned a few weeks ago that I was tightening the entry requirements anyway.

Thanks for coming by to pick a fight with me. Sorry you had to look so so hard to find a cheap ass way to ignore the fairly significant meaning of my comments this morning. And good job there with the name calling. I must say you have developed the troll's device of pretending to respond by posting your own socratic questions devoid of offering anything yourself.

And with that, my good-time buddy...

[Tom R]

Trump is too busy running the country to fulfill your 4D daydreams? Or maybe other things are more important to Trump right now. (Iran, lunch, his next tweet).

You are the one making unsupported leaps. Prove your own support.

Did you even understand a single point I made? What makes you think Trump isn't directly involved and/or briefed on a daily basis on the Mueller investigation, the DOJ IG investigation, as well as the Congressional investigations into Russian collusion, FISA abuse, etc?

[narcisocenfl]

I did come across that passage, old lurker having read bodansky's account; of the event
that frames rosenburgs tale, and that's half the tale about ryazan.

[Captain Hate]

I'm sure none of you h8ers imagined this happening:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=374668

[Old Lurker]

I knew you would have, Narc. You were the first I thought of when I read that page.

[jimmyk]

What makes you think Trump isn't directly involved and/or briefed on a daily basis on the Mueller investigation

Who would brief him on Mueller's investigation, which as far as I can tell is done entirely in secret, with information only coming out in the form of indictments? Aside from that it's a few leaks and rumors. Or am I wrong about that? The only way it could happen is if Mueller regularly briefed Rosenstein, who in turn regularly briefed Trump. I doubt that is happening, especially if Trump is considered a target of the investigation.

[GUS]

I want to remind you that this investigation is about "Russian interference in our elections" RIGHT??? There is no 4d chess going on, this is a coup attempt. Nothing else.

[narcisocenfl]

My late grandfather was the one that brought soltzhenitsyn to my attention, particularly his 1978 Harvard speech, as well as the gular archipelago along with Jan valtins the night that staid behind.

Now in his latter days soltzhenitsyn had supported putin as leviathans, to end the state of nature, that had occasioned the post soviet fall.

[jimmyk]

I'm sure none of you h8ers imagined this happening

Have to get with the program, CH. Little girls' antiquated sensitivities must be sacrificed on the altar of obedience to LGBTQRSTUV activism.

[Old Lurker]

I always found him a hard read, Narc.

[Captain Hate]

Patterico update: still insane.

[narcisocenfl]

It is but for example, the first volume of the red wheel is instructive, of what cane before, it sometimes depend on the translator Misha Glenny before he became a soap boxer for balkan intervention and mob chronicler want a particularly good one.

[Appalled]

The 4d crowd needs to pay attention to this:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/04/05/in-addition-to-mueller-six-people-are-prosecuting-paul-manafort-and-trump-has-no-appropriate-defense-attorney/

The resources being used against Trump by the Special Counsel are pretty significant.

[Captain Hate]

The thrill is gone:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mlcalderone/status/981956635634565120

[narcisocenfl]

You misspelled persecuting, I remember when Steven brill had agita over leaks from starrs office, now not so much. It turns out the dems just wanted an unaccountable zampolit for their purposes.

From what I read, Paul the apostle mostly featuesthe apostle played by James faulkner, relate his story to Mauritius a centurion played by Oliver martinet, his exoerinces while he waiting to be executed, during nerds tern of office.

[jimmyk]

I always found him a hard read

I don't recall "A Day in the Life..." being hard, but I've never attempted the larger works like "Gulag Archipelago."

[Tom R]

Who would brief him on Mueller's investigation, which as far as I can tell is done entirely in secret, with information only coming out in the form of indictments?

I assume Trump's team of lawyers have a direct line of communication with him to keep him up to date anytime there is something new that comes out.

BTW did anyone else notice that an entire month went by without any leaks until yesterday when the WAPO reported Mueller informed Trump's attorneys that Trump was not a target of the investigation?

That means Trump has known he wasn't a target since early March. Whenever I read information like that, I try to figure out 1) who would leak that to the WAPO, 2) why would they leak it and more importantly, 3) why has Trump kept that information secret for an entire month?

Trump obviously had some reason that us mere mortals don't know about (yet) for keeping that information a secret. Anyone care to speculate?

[narcisocenfl]

Martinez, experiences, I got most of war and piece, then again i relied on the footnotes.

[Captain Hate]

I tried the Gulag many years ago and found it a slog, although it's possible that that's as much a commentary on me as the book. I agree with jimmyk on A Day in the Life.

[Captain Hate]

....commentary on me at the time as..

[narcisocenfl]

So why has he continued to pursue him like ahab, doesn't make sense does it, he apprehends the wrong people and lets wrongdoers go, bulger uranium one, et al, so his word means practically nothing.

[narcisocenfl]

Well its mostly a catalog, of places from butyrsk to kolyma, although there are characters its not a dramtuc form, Anne applebaum when not driven mad, made good useof it for her tome.

[GUS]

The Atlantic. Didn't the pull a story on SCIENTOLOGY and apoligize for it????

David Frum and Andrew Sullivan wrote for The Atlantic.

I'm sure it's BIG on the east coast.

[Tom R]

The 4d crowd needs to pay attention to this.

The resources being used against Trump by the Special Counsel are pretty significant.

Why exactly should any Trump supporter pay any attention to what some progressive blogger has to say?

BTW here was the closing comment:

Meanwhile, the President can’t even find one competent defense attorney to represent him.

I can't attest to the technical competency of his lawyers but I will go out on a limb and bet Trump has zero tolerance for incompetent lawyers.

BTW perhaps Trump has known since Day 1 of the Mueller investigation he wouldn't ever need a defense attorney?

[Captain Hate]

The Atlantic. Didn't the pull a story on SCIENTOLOGY and apoligize for it????

Is that true? I'm sure the nutjob cult's fleet of ambulance chasers backed them off as effectively as they did the IRS, although in the latter case they were more dogged in the pursuit than the GOP congress.

[narcisocenfl]

Well John dowd was in retrospect too naive, we can reasonably conclude. He believed Mueller to be an honorable man.

[Captain Hate]

It continues:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/04/hillary-comey-pizzagate/

[Momto2]

My 9th graders read "One Day in the Life..."

[GUS]

Capn' I think RODHAM is playing 4d chess!!

She mentions sex trafficing, and the 2 women sitting there don't even notice.

[Appalled]

Tom R:

I think it's pretty settled that a sitting President cannot be indicted. Which means, as a technical matter, he can't be the target of a criminal investigation.

[Momto2]

I came to post the link that JIB had already posted at 12:57. Don't miss it! You will want to give him a standing ovation (or at least, I did!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsu6CIZkthc

[henry]

“You have no idea how many people will believe things that are presented as news,

Things like your "qualifications" or Obama's "IQ", Hillary? Pizzagate was based on reality: Comet Pizza does exist.

[narcisocenfl]

And as popehat, points out it means i don't have the grounds to indict you now but I am looking diligently to hang you.

[narcisocenfl]

In other news:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/981929369139490817?p=v

[narcisocenfl]

Ugh, they are using Gareth porter, chomskys fellow Cambodian enabler.

[Tom R]

The Trump Curse strikes again. Kevin Williamson fired from The Atlantic already for his anti-abortion comments.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kevin-williamson-fired-the-atlantic-memo-jeffrey-goldberg-abortion-hanging?ref=home

[GUS]

Yes Henry, like when Rodham said the Bill the Rapist had all of is sexual assault accusations "adjudicated" in the past.
Or how about this doozy. And it's from THE ATLANTIC

Nov 13, 2017 - Hillary's grandmotherhood was evoked to suggest the next phase in her lifelong work on behalf of women and children—in this case forging a bond with the millions of American ... Yet let us not forget the sex crimes of which the younger, stronger Bill Clinton was very credibly accused in the 1990s. Juanita ...

What a steaming pantload of crappy crap crap.
Rodham has done no such thing.

[Davod]

The Mueller investigation will amass such a volume of information about Trump and his campaign which will be available to the opposition, whether it be conservative or liberal. Oh. I forgot to specifically mention the MSM.

[narcisocenfl]

Some of it may be incidentally true:
One is reminded:

http://.weeklystandard.com/editorial-what-if-trump-were-obama-and-sinclair-were-cnn/article/2012161

[Janet 🚬 - I wish my family had a poncho]

from Captain's Ace link @ 2:12 -

Target's CEO Brian Cornell - "We’ve had a long history embracing diversity and inclusion," said Cornell. "A couple weeks ago, one of our team members sent me a note reminding me that if we went back to the mid-60s, our company was one of the very first to use African-American models in their advertising, and back then, it wasn’t well received."

So African-Americans = mentally ill perverts? Is that what Target's CEO thinks?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/28951/man-exposes-himself-child-target-womens-bathroom-paul-bois

[derwill]

We don't have to watch CNN or listen to NPR to see what the latest propaganda narrative being fed to the useful idiots is, since Appalled was beating on it all day yesterday, and now Ben drops by to regurgitate the exact same thing.

Trump is no longer Putin's stooge. He now wants to be Putin. Yeah, yeah, whatever . . .

Appalled when you're reading from the same script as Ben, you might want to check your gullibility.

[clarice feldman]

MM, I cannot find the Stonewall Jackson tweet you posted nor any support online for it.

[Extraneus]

Has anyone mentioned yet that the entire content's of Hillary's private email server were unknowingly backed up by some cloud service called Datto

Tom, if this is about the Chaffez memo, MM linked it yesterday. While the memo did say that Datto had "emails," it didn't say they included Hillary's, or from what date range. Even if the Datto backup includes Hillary's emails from the date range of interest, it would be a miracle if it contains the deleted and wiped yoga and wedding planning emails.

[JMHanes]

Tom R:

Wish I had time to respond more fully to your scenarios above, but you completely ignore the fact that compliance with Congressional demands has become a veritable Swiss cheese of exceptions from protected deliberations to national security. I also think that Sessions is far more interested in protecting law enforcement institutionally and preserving its prerogatives, than he is in serving the President's political interests.

[Tom R]

The Mueller investigation will amass such a volume of information about Trump and his campaign which will be available to the opposition

The opposition probably already has most of it thanks to the Obama administration illegally spying on Trump.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Davod,

I am pretty sure that the dems won't get even a toehold in West Virginia, having watched that round table. One woman burst into tears when she started to speak to the President, because she was so overcome with gratitude.

The only thing I am concerned about is the media covering for dem voter fraud. Interestingly, today President Trump brought up illegals voting and people voting multiple times and certain states not letting anyone investigate.

[derwill]

Trump sometimes telegraphs things in his tweets. I don't remember him ever attaching a brand (as in Crooked and Low Energy) to Obama before, but in one of his latest tweets he used "Cheatin' Obama."

I found it an interesting choice, although I've no idea what it portends.

[clarice feldman]

MM--any response re the Stonewall Jackson tweet?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

derwill,

Some speculation on Twitter that it was about vote fraud. Again, today he mentioned illegals voting and people voting multiple times.

I found a guy on Twitter who has some sort of program which correlates voting records with deaths and changes of address and such. He claims (don't know anything about him) that Trump actually won the popular vote by about 10 million.

Should be interesting if THAT can of worms is opened.

[Tom R]

Wish I had time to respond more fully to your scenarios above, but you completely ignore the fact that compliance with Congressional demands has become a veritable Swiss cheese of exceptions from protected deliberations to national security.

My understanding of how the Intel Gang of Eight works is that Devin Nunes, as Chairman of the House Intel Committee, has guaranteed 100% full access to all classified information to include the stuff that is even higher than Top Secret. A FISA warrant request by the very nature of the warrant involves national security in some manner. I'm not a Constitutional law professor but I don't think there is any Constitutional ground for the DOJ/FBI to prevent Nunes from seeing what he is asking for. The other 7 members of the Gang of Eight have the authority to see the information as well.

If the redacted information includes evidence of criminal corruption by members of the Obama administration, perhaps one of the reasons that Trump hasn't authorized giving Nunes what he has asked for is that he doesn't want Schumer, Pelosi, Schiff and Warner to see it?

[clarice feldman]

Yes, Tom R--the minute the paper arrives to the Gang of 8, it will be cherry picked and reprinted in the nYT.

[Extraneus]

Oregon Gov. to Trump: I Refuse to Send National Guard Troops to Mexican Border

The president is allowed to call on National Guard units under two different laws passed by Congress in 1956.

Under U.S. Code Title 10, Trump could “federalize” the Guard, ordering federally-funded National Guard troops under the Defense Secretary’s control to report for “active duty.”

But Trump invoked U.S. Code Title 32 in his proclamation, which directs state governors to order the Guard to report “for operational Homeland Defense” duties.

Under Title 32, state governors can ignore or refuse the president’s order. While Brown has authority to deny Trump’s request under Title 32, the president can invoke his authority to send the National Guard to the Mexican border under other provisions.

[Extraneus]

‘WaPo’ Calls President Trump Too ‘Divisive’ for Baseball’s Opening Day

Two sports writers for the Washington Post slammed President Trump for skipping the Washington Nationals’ opening day, but also attacked him for using sports to divide America. The pair ultimately decided that Trump is too divisive to be allowed to participate in national sports.

Bezos still f'n with Trump?

[Extraneus]

Eight Members of Iran’s ‘Women’s’ Soccer Team Are Men Awaiting Sex Change Surgery

(Click to enlarge.)

[maryrose]

Derwill:
Obama cheated to win his election in 2012.
He helped Hillary cheat to try and win her election in 2016.
I am so pleased with all of Obama’s resources at the time, including spying on the Trump campaign Hillary still couldn’t beat him

Cheating is the perfect word for him.
I have laughed out loud reading some of the posts on this and the former threads.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
President Herbert Walker Bush a man who served his country honorably in the military and in public service is now referred to as some one’s old man.
President George Bush sold himself as a compassionate conservative, much like Jeb is today.
I knew that when I voted for him.He was more moderate and his immigration reform failed.
As far as the Iraq War,I never thought WMD ‘s was the main reason for getting rid of Saddam. Remember Obama voted against the surge which helped him win in 2008.
MM :
My problem with multiple conspiracy theories that you propose is that In my mind I am unable to trust the information provided.
As a consequence I look elsewhere for more news.
In my opinion, Trey Gowdy is just expressing his opinion.
He has been an effective congressman who has been repeatedly re-elected.
I hope he enjoys much success in the future and applaud his decision not to become a lifer on Capitol Hill like the Dems do.Nunes will get his information as soon as the powers that be allow it.
I don’t pretend to know their plan but I do think the elaborate one presented here is most likely off the mark.
I don’t have the same adulation you have for President Trump( notice I always give him his title).
He enjoys the power of the job as much as anyone but it remains to be seen what the sum of his accomplishments will be.

[clarice feldman]

well the Amazon-USPS contract ends in Oct so they will be renegotiating it:http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/29/silicon-war-how-donald-trump-can-crush-amazons-sweetheart-postal-service-deal/

[Robin on ipad]

Clarice, is this the tweet you’re looking for:

https://mobile.twitter.com/1776stonewall/status/981924444829573125?s=21

[maryrose]

I forgot to mention I love Solzhenitsyn and have read Gulag Archipelago and A-Day In the Life.
My college offered a Russian literature course and though I didn’t take the class I read many of the books.
Dostoyevsky was also s favorite author.

[Extraneus]

Why?

Trump Breaks Silence On Stormy Daniels

(Click to enlarge.)

[clarice feldman]

THNX, ROBIN,

[Buckeye]

Ext

I was gonna click to see the rest of that picture but I chickened out.

Was afraid I might find out Moooch Obama was on the team:)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

clarice,

Sorry I didn't respond. I was driving my son to work.

Robin has the tweet I posted earlier. Did you have a further question about it?

[GUS]

This Iran soccer team......are they sponsored by TARGET?

[clarice feldman]

MM. I couldn't find back up for Jackson's claims, but the Amazon deal ends in Oct to that's likely and there are reports that Canada will be negotiating NAFTA.

[Tom R]

Sundance weighs in on the Nunes request to Rosenstein/Wray. I wasn't too far off the mark.

Simple answer, the HPSCI is compromised.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/04/05/its-complicated-chairman-devin-nunes-demand-letter-to-fbi-director-wray-and-aag-rosenstein/#more-147741

[Robin on ipad]

Kevin Williamson was on what was one of my favorite of the National Review podcasts with Charles Cooke. I quit listening when he went Never Trump and was positively venomous about it. I have to say, I completely agree with Ace, Williamson will get no sympathy from me.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/374670.php

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

ChiTown Lurker says both Canada and Mexico have been in negotiations with Lighthizer, and speculates that the caravan from El Salvador was an attempt to pressure us. Big backfire for Mexico if that is what they are trying. Threats from the Mexican Senate to stop assisting with deportations and drug cartels will not win them any concessions, either.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

clarice,

Our lurking pal also would like to know what the overlap would be between DoD military law and DoJ law through Homeland Security, and how they would be prosecuted if apprehended by National Guard.

He says he hates to see Military Code of Justice go to waste in such a target-rich environment, but he doesn't know what the protocol is.

[maryrose]

Next time Oregon needs help from the federal government, they are on their own.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/04/05/president-trump-remarks-during-tax-reform-roundtable-west-virginia-225pm-est-livestream/#more-147738

I am reporting this link because at least the first link has converted to video.

This is really well worth watching.

[gentlejim]

Watch this video JiB posted if you haven’t. This man gets it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsu6CIZkthc

Posted by: Jack is Back! | April 05, 2018 at 12:57

USC title 18 chapter 44 in conjunction with form 4473 covers gun control. Follow these to the letter.

[gentlejim]

Iggy,
That article on the El Faro was truly frightening. It really created some mental images.

[gentlejim]

Captain,
My only surprise is that it took so long for a reported Target weenie waggle.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/05/chicago-public-schools-builds-campus-38000-unmarked-graves/

This would get me to pull my kid out of that school in a New York minute. Sounds like the beginning of a horror movie.

[clarice feldman]

MM, tell chitown I've no idea.

[Extraneus]

Great Ace link, Robin. I'm not even through it yet, but it's shaping up to be one of his best.

[Extraneus]

And he finished strong.

[Extraneus]

I rarely comment about polls, or even read them or stories about them, but this headline caught my eye. Imagine the butt-hurt after all the effort they put into this?

Stormy Daniels Accusations Boost Trump Approval Rating Among Men, Poll Shows

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

For those of you who are upset about Sessions and Mueller and so forth, this is a good thread explaining why we don't know what's going on:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/982001100915183616.html

[narcisocenfl]

This is they find acceptable:
https://www.newsbusters.org/people-organizations/michael-gerson

[maryrose]

Ext:
Stormy is an example of a non story.
Have not watched one minute of this claptrap.
In Cleveland A fertility department at University Hospital inadvertently destroyed some of the embryos,I believe, I could be wrong.
Gloria Allred is now here getting victims lined up to sue the hospital.

[Extraneus]

Good link, MM.

"Why the hell would Trump's team be establishing a backchannel with the Russians AFTER THE ELECTION WAS OVER? Wouldn't THAT mean there was no backchannel DURING the election, & hence no Trump/Russia collusion?"

...

FOURTEEN of the people in that meme were all in high ranking posts inside the DOJ/FBI within the last 2 years. These are the people who BUILD CASES TO INVESTIGATE OTHER PEOPLE.

They know ALL the tricks.

You go after THESE people you had better know what the hell you are doing. Any opening you leave, any mistake you make, any 't' not crossed, any 'i' not dotted, they and their super lawyers WILL find it. And they will get away.

JEFF SESSIONS IS DETERMINED TO MAKE NO MISTAKES. So he's going about this the slow, sure, SECRET way.