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April 17, 2018



White riot, I want a riot, white riot, a riot of my own.


Captain Hate on the iPhone

Allahpuke acts like a junior high girl and then wonders why he can't get his ashes hauled. Not going hair on fire about this.


Bringing this over:

Here is the link Levin used in his tweet about Gorsuch being the let down king:


If I understand the article correctly, Scalia, in 2015, ruled that vague BS laws shouldn't harm defendants. They used that case as a precedent for this case where Gorsuch agreed that vague BS laws shouldn't harm defendants.

I have no real time to dig into this Birther style. Does anyone know what the law is and which congress and President made it law?

Right now Trump will win if the House and Senate creates a fix and passes as quickly as possible.


Who am I kidding??

Posted by: Threadkiller | April 17, 2018 at 02:01 PM

clarice feldman

Popular perceptions pheh--Gorsuch was right, and people who like vaguely written criminal laws would sing a different tune when caught up in thhem.


He told us he was going to follow Antonin.
Wonder if he takes RBG to the opera???


Yes sloppy prosecutors, recall iT happened under lynchs tenure,

James D.

Clarice, that’s true.

But that doesn’t address the entirely reasonable question of why an immigrant who is convicted of multiple felonies has any right at all not to be deported, regardless of whether the felonies were violent or not, or how one defines the word violent.

It SHOULDN’T be a thorny and delicate legal question in the first place, and the fact that it is, is a big reason why we now have President Trump.


On the exploding engine, yes, unfortunately.

Has there ever been a case like that?

It happens more often than you might think, though amazingly without serious consequences. Like this one:



Agree with Gorsuch, I think, but I'm very curious to see what Justice Thomas had to say in his dissent.

* * *

fwiw ... and to bring it back to Black Panther for a bit and the South Korean scene ... did RG notice the roof Koreans?

Posted by: rich | April 17, 2018 at 12:00 PM

Rich . . . roof Koreans?

Hey, man, I've had some birthdays. Memory ain't what it used to be. Remind me of the scene, please, but the answer is no I did not. Or at least I can't recall it right now. You know that will only give me more compare / contrast grist to attack the film from my love-hate position.

* * *

fdcol63, very good. Someone here mentioned its connection to the OODA Loop and I've been looking into that. IMHO it helps to explain why you should be more open to the 4D claims; I'm sure I'll convince you of this later . . . /not


When you've lost bret Stephens:


As usual, Justice Thomas makes a damn good point in his dissent:

While THE CHIEF JUSTICE persuasively explains why respondent cannot prevail under our precedents, I write separately to make two additional points. First, I continue to doubt that our practice of striking down statutes as unconstitutionally vague is consistent with the original meaning of the Due Process Clause. See id., at ___–___ (opinion of THOMAS, J.) (slip op., at 7–18). Second, if the Court thinks that §16(b) is unconstitutionally vague because of the “categorical approach,” see ante, at 6–11, then the Court should abandon that approach—not insist on reading it into statutes and then strike them down. Accordingly, I respectfully dissent.

Hmmmmmmmm . . . there's something TK-ish about that position, isn't there?


Well there was the brawl in the casino.b

clarice feldman

Here's how Congress writes civil laws: The Secretary of _____-shall_______ blah blah -and decide what that means at his discretion.[The courts have for too long given too much deference to whatever the heck the administrators decide from this bafflegab]

Here's how Congress writes criminal laws: whoever shall, mumble, bumble with or without intent , shall be...[ Translation:let's leave prosecutors to decide--the citizens surely can't afford a costly, lengthy battle to defend themselves.]

If those ass holes wrote actual legislation we'd all be better off.


Has anyone ever seen TK and Clarence Thomas together? I see a rumor starting...


Sprints result in measurable outcomes in the short term instead of waiting to the end of the critical path on a grand plan. I think Trump may be taking an approach more like sprints, which explains why he appears to lack focus. However, the lack of perp walks in the justice area (added to statute of limitations on federal crimes) is a giant red flag. Where are the measurable outcomes (aka perp walks) from these sprints?

JM Hanes

From Allahpundit:

"Gorsuch did make two concessions to the right, though."

"Concessions" is a really obnoxious way of putting that. I think Gorshuch was absolutely right. Bad law ultimately ends up biting both right and left and everybody else. I also don't see this as an embarrassment for the President, when the Obama Adminstration apparently took the same position.


Its rare when dread pirate Roberts gets dissent right these days:

Jim Eagle

I am in the Gorsuch column. Sometimes the right, like Levin, need to recognize that conservatism is also doing the right thing according to our constitution. I would like Mark to define "violence" for me.

Is it showing up unannounced, uninvited, without an instrument of harm, being arrested for burglary but outside of that, only provided from his presences, fear, foreboding and physical illness, etc.

Or is it, showing up with a firearm, willing to use it, scaring the hell out of the residents and then pistol whipping the husband?

I have no idea if that is what happened or didn't happen but I challenge anyone to define "violence" for me that could be a legal standard.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

henry, Just for you I am going to re-post this which I posted at the very end of the last thread:

Ryan Saavedra
‏Verified account @RealSaavedra
56m56 minutes ago

#BREAKING: Former FBI agent Terry J. Albury has pleaded guilty to leaking classified documents to the media and faces a likely sentence of approximately 3-5 years in prison.

I don't have a link to a story yet. When I get it, I will post it.

Also, I am now going to start posting every indictment, conviction, and dismissal in order to demonstrate that progress, albeit slow, is being made.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


I am interested in this because I read The Fourth Turning years ago (so long ago that the corners were chewed by Maggie as a puppy).

It stayed with me and I found the theory intriguing. Trump, indeed, qualifies as a Gray Champion. Whether he can triumph with all of his adversaries is still up in the air, although I have confidence in him.

Think of how things have already changed:

1. The presence of the Uniparty is understood by a great many people.
2. Citizens are stepping forward to do their own reporting on Twitter, Facebook, and blog sites.
3. Traditional media is failing.
4. The FBI has lost respect and prestige.
5. The democrats have been revealed as anti-American, anti-Christian, and anti-Constitution.


Judicial Watch Sues FBI for Comey Book Documents

“James Comey illegally took and then leaked material from his FBI memos in order to get a Special Counsel appointed to target President Trump. And so now Judicial Watch is asking questions about whether James Comey is getting special treatment from the FBI to use these ill-gotten FBI documents in his book,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

This is the second Judicial Watch lawsuit on the Comey book deal. Shortly after Mr. Comey signed to write his book August 2017, Judicial Watch sent a FOIA request seeking FBI documents related to the deal and coordination on his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee. In January 2017, Judicial Watch filed a FOIA lawsuit against the Justice Department for failing to respond to these requests.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Jennifer Jacobs
‏Verified account @JenniferJJacobs
52m52 minutes ago

BREAKING NEWS: Senior US officials have spoken with North Korea’s KIM JONG UN himself to organize the meeting with Trump, I’m told.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Communications between Southwest pilot and ground control.

The Southwest pilot is a woman; sounds cool as a cucumber.


Who funds Judicial Watch?

Manuel Transmission

Sitting in the Houston terminal with a 2 hr delay, so I'm taking the time to convey a sad and somewhat infuriating story.

In our little boondocks town there was a gal who grew up here and ended up working at one of the local banks. Her name was Abby. One of my Friday lunch buddies worked with her for many years. We got to know her several years ago at our little yacht club and she even ended up sharing a slip at our new marina with a local liberal Persian (yeah, not Iranian) dude who is actually now our mayor.

Anyway, Abby apparently had a rough upbringing here. Her dad abused her and her siblings (I'm assuming sexually). By the time we got to know her a bit, she was starting a downward spiral into alcoholism. She left the marina and the libby dude who was sharing the slip with her picked up the slack, which was a rare example of his better nature.

She repaired to her sister's place in CA for a few months, maybe drying out, but we lost track of her since.

Now comes the even worse part. She apparently came back to a place she had been living in over on Shaw Island. A little cabin on a larger estate. She also apparently married some dude that was living with her there. So, back last November she keeps her daily contact with family over here up until about mid-month and then nothing... Never showed up for Thanksgiving. Nothing. Someone in the family got some text messages from her, but they were pretty sure they we not really from her.

So cops are called on several different occasions to no serious followup. Mostly they contact the hubby who gives all sorts of 'dog ate my homework' excuses. The cops eventually go to the cabin and walk around to no avail.

Finally they take it more seriously -- six months later!!! -- and find what's left of her in some old car on the property.

Dipshit hubby finally figures the jig is up and proceeds to stab himself, probably with the knife he did her in with, He is now down in Seattle in intensive care with the cops waiting to formally charge hime after he is released. So if he recovers, we will have paid six figures to save the punk and then spend six or seven figures to try and jail him.

She never deserved any of this shit.


Thanks Miss M. FWIW, I consider indictments of leakers as its own meta project. (Other meta projects related to DoJ include MS13 round ups and deportation, human trafficking round ups). The deep state coup is its own meta project, and while many have been identified (Comey, McCabe, Ohr, Strzok, Page, Baker), none have been indicted.

F Hudson




Who funds Judicial Watch?


Judicial Watch has an annual budget of about $35 million.[1] Between 1997 and 2002 Judicial Watch received $7,069,500 in 19 grants from a handful of foundations. The bulk of this funding came from three foundations: the Sarah Scaife Foundation, a funder of politically conservative causes;[74] The Carthage Foundation, which merged into the Sarah Scaife Foundation in 2014;[75] and the John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.,[citation needed] another conservative foundation which folded in 2005.[76] As of 2010, the Sarah Scaife Foundation was the group's largest contributor.[77]

I guess the rest comes from smaller donations.


clarice feldman

Sad story, MT.

Miss Marple the Deplorable


"Among the most pressing threats to the U.S. homeland is Hezbollah's deep penetration throughout Latin America, where it finances its terror activities by teaming up with drug cartels and crime syndicates."

Hezbollah is controlled by Iran.

Build. The. Wall.


McTurtle has come out against the budget recission. (Bloomberg)

McTurtle interfering in WV primaries. (Conservative Reviw).

Swamp fever?


$35 million???


Who funds Judicial Watch?

I do. And you can, too.

Designate them as your charity on smile.amazon.com.


A female pilot?. Is she hot?

....ducking for cover......

JM Hanes


"Who funds Judicial Watch?"

Well, me, for one. I've forgotten which specific case prompted me to start contributing, but I think there's a whole lot we wouldn't know today, if they hadn't be really aggressive in court and on FOIA requests.


A startling video of former President Obama calling President Trump a “complete dipshit” is a coordinated stunt from filmmaker Jordan Peele as a public service announcement to warn about fake videos.


Designate them as your charity on smile.amazon.com.

I went with Project Veritas.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

anonamom!!!! look at this:

Jennifer Jacobs
‏Verified account @JenniferJJacobs

Scooplet: Trump will do a rally in Washington, MI on Saturday, April 28, per a person familiar with Trump’s schedule.

That’s the same time as the WHCA dinner.

Jennifer Jacobs
‏Verified account @JenniferJJacobs
1h1 hour ago

Trump campaign on Washington, Michigan rally:

“While the fake news media will be celebrating themselves with the denizens of Washington society in the swamp that evening, President Trump will be in a completely different Washington, celebrating...with patriotic Americans.”

Jim Eagle


Thanks for your insight on Korea. You seemed very knowledgeable. Are you an ex-resident? Or an Orientalist as the colonial office in Great Britian would have called you in the good old days:)

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Today’s Court decision means that Congress must close loopholes that block the removal of dangerous criminal aliens, including aggravated felons. This is a public safety crisis that can only be fixed by....

....Congress – House and Senate must quickly pass a legislative fix to ensure violent criminal aliens can be removed from our society. Keep America Safe!


A startling video of former President Obama calling President Trump a “complete dipshit” is a coordinated stunt from filmmaker Jordan Peele as a public service announcement to warn about fake videos.

The rumored video found on Weiner's laptop must be a doozy.

Account Deleted

Comment from Hot Air re the deportation decision and Gorsuch:

Bill Shipley said:

This is actually a signal to a good thing -- Gorsuch is not going to allow federal agencies to stretch their statutory (Congress) mandate through rule-making. He's saying DOJ cannot fix the ambiguity in the statute left by Congress, by passing regulations and rules which "clarify" what Congress meant. Apply this principle in much more important areas, and you begin to see the basis for invalidating the Chevron Doctrine, and rolling back the power of the administration state in favor of elected officials.

Basically Gorsuch is telling Congress -- "Do you job better -- don't use ambiguous terms in your statutes."


Gus, and others,

Hannity was not just a friend, acquaintance or buddy of Cohen because Cohen had records of their contact. If I shout out legal advice here, or Anonamom offers her invaluable medical opinion, we don't make a record of it.

Now it's undoubtedly true no money exchanged hands and he was not a paying client, but it was formal enough for Cohen to make a record.

I'm not saying either Cohen or Hannity are wrong, but it's not exactly how you portray it.

Man Tran, I'm sorry about Abby.


Yes Jane, Comey had records of his contacts with Trump.
Hannity is not responsible for Cohens record keeping practices. In my business, I need a signature on a contract to protect mine and my potential clients interests. And so what if he was a client of Cohen. What does that have to do with RODHAM colluding with the RUSSIANS?

Jane, I haven't said hello to you in a while, I hope you are well and warm.


So now Hogg is going after BlackRock and Vanguard. Will they cave to the twerp?



Interior secretary Ryan Zinke frequently refers to himself a geologist despite never working as one

They're all over this. He has a B.S. in geology, but never actually worked as a geologist.

Wondering how many geology majors actually become professional geologists.


He was a navy seal, right,


It has nothing to do with it, so 5hey are making of a thing that he contacted jay sekulow at one time, pshaw Al asad


Hannity did, to clarify.


I should have asked "Who funds Judicial Watch besides me?"

But what I really wanted to know:
"Where do the big bucks that make Judicial Watch happen come from?"

Thanks Ex. And thanks to everyone who contributes to them, FIRE, Project Veritas, local pols. Who send emails to their legislators, and others. Who retweet the message and articles.
Janet asked "What can we do?"
We all can do that.

I do think putting even small amounts of money where our mouths are is very meaningful as well, and lets these people decent enough to give politics a go know we are with them.


What would cause you to make a record of our contact, if you were not billing me?

Might you do that so you would have credible evidence of attorney-client relationship, so that if soemthing came up in the future you did NOT want to discuss w law enforcement, you could claim that?

For example, my state board requires me to keep a record of anyone I write a prescription for, so if a nurse or partner asks me to write a scipt some Retin A (skin cream that decreases signs of aging) for example, I now write a brief note, as though they had a medical visit, so I can say I had a legitimate reason to write the script.




Never-Trump Aides Run Donald Trump’s Outreach to Congress

Trump was furious when he learned Pence was bringing on Nikki Haley’s deputy Jon Lerner, according to three sources familiar with the events. The President believed Lerner was a card-carrying member of the “Never Trump” movement because Lerner crafted brutal attack ads for Club for Growth’s multimillion-dollar anti-Trump blitz during the Republican primaries.


“Why would Mike do that?” Trump wondered aloud about Pence’s decision, according to two sources briefed on the President’s private conversations.


On Sunday night, Lerner withdrew from the job but said he would keep his advisory job with U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley.

fdcol63  🇺🇸


henry at 5:12 pm

Sprints result in measurable outcomes in the short term instead of waiting to the end of the critical path on a grand plan. I think Trump may be taking an approach more like sprints

This is why I referred to Agile, in my mind, being almost like back when Florida State ran the shotgun offense when Charlie Ward was QB.

Your own team has to be in great physical condition to do it, but wow ... you can really exhaust your opponents because most of them will not have trained to sustain such a pace, and you can run all over them.


Meanwhile buzzard feed was trying to verify the dossier with a firm allied to fusion.


according to two sources briefed on the President’s private conversations.



MM---I never heard of this Washington, Michigan.
But I now know where it is.

I'm sure there are lots of his people there--many samll manufacturing jobs have come back in Michigan, and that's teh kind of place that has those small shops.


I have met Hannity in person so I think I know a little bit more about him than TK does.


What exactly would a pollster know about national security, you would think some security professional like Libby or Greg it al.


Why would Lerner even consider the job if he is still a Never Trumper?
Some bridges stay burned.


AP sure has disdain for most conservatives.

He's sure "we" will be outraged by Gorsuch's decision, because "we" aren't as brilliant as AP and can't understand this ruling.

Lerner’s quick departure puts the spotlight back on Trump’s Capitol Hill liaison chief, Marc Short.

Short was also a prominent anti-Trump leader in 2016 – and he has played a prominent role in the White House’s failure to have Congress legislate or fund the President’s popular immigration agenda.

Prior to becoming the Director of Legislative Affairs for Trump, Short worked for Charles and David Koch, who loudly oppose Trump’s populist, wage-raising immigration reform proposals. During the 2016 campaign, Gov. Mike Pence hired Short as a communications aide, and then Short got the congressional liaison job in 2017. Short got the job instead of Rick Dearborn, the former chief of staff to Sen. Jeff Sessions.

Pence is a cheap-labor advocate and an ally of amnesty supporters, such as GOP Sen. Jeff Flake.

Is that true?

(Same piece I linked above, Breitbart.)


"Why would Lerner even consider the job if he is still a Never Trumper?"

To be a dick just like most never-Trumpers -- IOW, to undermine the President at every opportunity and then complain that the President sure has a hard time getting stuff done.


I have met Hannity in person so I think I know a little bit more about him than TK does.

Too bad you don't listen to his radio show when you claim to be an expert on what he said. You mixed tv from last night with radio from today. Remember? Probably not.

Again, I will point out. You bring me up in conversation. Never the other way around. You have this odd desire for battle.



"What would cause you to make a record of our contact, if you were not billing me?"

I don't know Anonamom. I might make notes about something so I remembered it, but they would not be lucid enough for the FBI to figure it out.


Jimmy "3-5" Comey. I like the ring of that!


Am I the only one who thinks of killfiling people who often argue?


fdcol63, the sprints seem to be fruitful in many areas (epics for agile fans). But not on handling the core coup participants. The lack of results there is troubling. They all walk, everything Trump accomplishes resets to globalist / uniparty when Trump leaves. Yes, getting fired is equivalent to getting off free. Indictments and convictions of those people matter. So far we have bupkis.

fdcol63  🇺🇸

I wouldn’t killfile someone just for arguing with me. I expect spirited debate.

But rudeness and assholeness? That’s another matter! LOL


I'm not sure how anyone thinks regarding killfile. All I would appreciate is maryrose using a little more thoughtfulness before she posts rude comments.


A statement Hannity made last night stated the following:
As I Said On My Radio Show Yesterday and then proceeded to explain no hiring of Cohen.
Someone please inform confused and WRONG TK that I am not the one getting it wrong or mixing it up.His comments tend to be putting me down in a passive aggressive.
I can’t let him get away with that.


Fail, maryrose.

Not "My Radio Show Yesterday," it was his radio show today.

Why don't you read my comments before you pick a fight?


TK playing the victim card.
That is rich!


I played the correct card. You read that poorly as well.

fdcol63  🇺🇸


I understand your frustration. But I’m hoping that serious people are taking their time to build solid legal cases against these people, which is probably being hampered and slowed by the extent to which the Deep State has been infiltrated by these cretins.

In this regard, I have mixed feelings about Sessions. He was too quick to recuse himself, and like you, I worry that maybe he’s been too slow ... but I hope he and others are working quietly and determinedly in the background to prosecute these people to the fullest extent.


Barbara Bush has died.


You sure?

Janeprobably about 10 minutes after getting ther

RIP Barbara Bush. You did well.


I will disengage permanently from that poster.
Sorry for the inconvenience.


I agree with you.
A fine lady.

Janet 🚬 -  I wish my family had a poncho

Am I the only one who thinks of killfiling people who often argue?



Insty notes an Ace of Spades post, SBUX is now a privately funded homeless shelter, LOL.

“Starbucks, in other words, has just announced its stores are not stores primarily, but are now privately-funded shelters and bathroom facilities for the homeless. You don’t have to spend a slim dime in the store to sit as long as you please and use the bathrooms.”

Would be great if Sabo or someone designed an official-looking handbill that we glue or tape to SBUX windows:
You are welcome here!
You can sit as long as you like.
You can use the restroom.
You don't need to buy anything!


ABC news reported on Barbara Bush.



Very sad story about Abby. Hope the hubby gets what he has coming to him.


fdcol63, I agree on Sessions. I also hope he is building cases. So far no signs of life on prosecuting anyone.



Comey’s Wife Got Out the Bulldozer
… because hubby wasn’t digging the hole deep enough.


i agree with you, Clarice.
The Gorsuch kerfuffle is reminiscent of Scalia's defense of the Sixth Amendment's confrontation clause in Ohio v. Clark, in which he excoriated Alito (and was joined by Ginsberg.)
Scalia's brilliance - and devotion to the Constitution - frequently led him to take positions that were favorable to unpalatable criminal defendants.
If Gorsuch is to be the new Scalia - as advertised - we shouldn't be surprised if he does likewise.
And Potus' tweet - contra AP - shows that either (a) he knows how to make lemonade from lemons, or (b) he sees Gorsuch as an Administrative State killer, rather than a Tory, or - imo - both.
AP is just another who cannot seem to comprehend that Trumpism is something more than just Republicanism or Conservatism.


I saw someone's (jimmyk?) defense of Kimba Wood hiring illegals, that she paid their SocSec and stuff. Great to have things factual.
I don't recall seeing this go past but probably I just missed it:

“Judge in Michael Cohen’s case officiated George Soros’ wedding

Federal Judge Kimba Wood, who is overseeing the court case against Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Michael Cohen, officiated the 2013 wedding of George Soros, a billionaire supporter of liberal political causes, according to news reports at that time.”


My brother was mountain biking with W, just last week in Dallas. W. always treated my bro well.
Rest in Peace Mrs Bush, God bless you.


How did the illegals that Kimba Woods paid Soc Security for, get Social Security numbers?.


Rip Barbara bush

Its a close call, as the links that feature Thomas and Roberts dissent suggest. The general rule is to discourage any criminal behavior

Miss Marple the Deplorable


Contains statement from the Office of George H.W. Bush.

By the way, she was a descendant of Franklin Pierce.

During the campaign she said some things which irritated me, but she was in her 90's, old school, and was so disappointed her son didn't win the nomination, so I just let it go.

Somewhere around here I have a thank-you post card sent by her along with President Bush after they lost to Clinton, in return for me sending them a thank-you for their service and my regrets that they lost.

She made a valuable contribution to the nation with her push for literacy and reading.


GUS: How did the illegals that Kimba Woods paid Soc Security for, get Social Security numbers?.

OK, I'm sure I got the details wrong but someone, I think jimmyk, mentioned going back and checking on details. If his info is correct then some of the stuff being flung by right wing blogs is not correct.

Apparently she did officate at Soros wedding though. I haven't seen that rebutted.

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago

States and Cities throughout our Country are being cheated and treated so badly by online retailers. Very unfair to traditional tax paying stores!

Miss Marple the Deplorable

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
3m3 minutes ago

.@FLOTUS Melania and I join the Nation in celebrating the life of Barbara Bush:


White House statement at link above.


RIP, Barbara Bush.

I always sympathized with her because she lost a young daughter, Robin.

Trivia: George W. Bush is the only president to leave office with both his parents living. What a gift.

Barbara and I share an 18th century ancestor.

Texas Liberty Gal

Wonder who suggested this guy to Trump. He seems like a poor fit



GUS, JimNC, I got my info from wiki, FWIW:

In the Nannygate matter of 1993, Wood was Bill Clinton's second unsuccessful choice for United States Attorney General.[7] Like Clinton's previous nominee, Zoë Baird, Wood had hired an illegal immigrant as a nanny, but unlike Baird, she had paid the required taxes on the employee. Wood employed the illegal immigrant at a time when it was legal to do so, before the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 made the hiring of illegal immigrants unlawful.

That's as much as I know, though I remembered that her case was not so egregious, but she kind of got swept up in the fever.

I'm not defending her as a judge--it seems like she's made a left turn, or maybe never was conservative.


Took a quick look at CNN to see their take on Barbara Bush.

Didn't have it on for 15 seconds when I got to hear Anderson Poofter letting us all know how she felt about Trump.


The lack of results there is troubling.

Posted by: henry | April 17, 2018 at 07:32 PM

Come on, henry, show me one instance anywhere in America of a complex criminal case involving public servants that is anything remotely close to fast (that means less than two years) and I will show you a serious exception to the rule.

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