Sunday Open Thread

Here we go again.

Comments

[Extraneus]

I linked some of that yesterday, henry.

https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/video/lindsey-graham-i-want-to-know-if-there-was-surveillance-898323011907

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lindsey-graham-ponders-disturbing-prospect-of-his-conversations-being-spied-on-by-us-intelligence/article/2618172

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/lindsey-graham-obama-administration-unmasking/2017/06/02/id/793862/

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Extraneus,

Lindsey Graham serves on the Judiciary Committee. Many people will remember that while he was in the House, he was one of the Impeachment managers.

As such, he would be more attuned to irregularities within the FBI and DOJ. That is reason enough for them to spy on him.

[Man Tran]

RL,

Maybe we can get the Chinese hooked on HF corn syrup. The added weight should make them less aggressive.

My experience in China is that at least 10 pct of them are already diabetic without any weight problems. Maybe too much moutai.

[JimNorCal]

Israel.
Saudi Arabia.
Korea.
China at least respects DJT.
and so on

http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/05/countries-who-matter-love-trump.html

[Thomas Collins]

It's tough for defendants to get cases quashed on pretrial publicity grounds, Extraneus. I don't think Brennan or any other Obama critters have a case on those grounds at the current moment. If Trump keeps this up, however, even if he is quoting pundits, the line will have been crossed. Trump is the head of the executive branch, which through DOJ would be bringing the cases.

Because I don't think swamp draining will ultimately be resolved through the criminal justice system, I am fine with Trump staying on the offensive. Ultimately, however, I think it's sunlight, not the criminal justice system, that will be the best disinfectant. Still, after what Flynn is going through, I don't shed any tears for Obama critters who may be touched by Huber's grand jury proceedings.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

1. Lots of people are glossing over the fact that Sessions appointed a US Attorney (Huber) to work in tandem with Horowitz. I don’t recall (please help me find it if it exists) another time in history where an Inspector General was assigned a prosecutor. I’d love to find one.

— Tracybeanz (@tracybeanz) May 21, 2018

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This is the first in a series of tweets which you can follow if you click on the link. There has been a grand jury in Utah for at least 6 months.

We should probably encourage someone in Salt Lake to stake out the airport and see who arrives.

[clarice feldman]

How many jurors do you suppose read tweets?

[Old Lurker]

Clarice fixed "How many jurors do you suppose read"

[Threadkiller]

Why do any of them get approved by the Senate when they are nominated for positions that need Senate approval?

Because Republicans were afraid to oppose Obama, especially early on.

After McCain handed Obama the easiest path to victory that an ineligible and unqualified candidate could ever dream of, the RNC attorneys approached the court with a "we aren't racists anymore" in an attempt to quash The Consent Decree.

Part of their brief explaned that since the country now has a black President and a black Attorney General it is proof that the Republicans are a post racist party.

My guess is that the RNC went Lucy/Football with the DNC and allowed the Obama presidency to happen thinking that they would have leveraged a better position in future elections. The Dems turned the negotiations into a teachable blackmailable moment to the RNC.

Only one person learned. Donald Trump.

[Extraneus]

How do we know that Huber has a grand jury?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

White House trolls the shit out of the press corp with title of this press release right now:
'WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE VIOLENT ANIMALS OF MS-13' pic.twitter.com/7CHbcenuIz

— Benny (@bennyjohnson) May 21, 2018

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In the partial screen cap of the press release on this tweet, I count the word "animals" used at least 6 times, and that isn't the entire press release! HA!

[lurkersusie]

Gives are off

Noah Pollak
@NoahPollak
Pompeo: "Unlike the previous administration, we are looking for outcomes that benefit the Iranian people, not the regime." Ouch.

[lurkersusie]

Oops....Gloves are off

[Threadkiller]

Here is it in its entirety, MM:

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE VIOLENT ANIMALS OF MS-13

WHAT: The violent animals of MS-13 have committed heinous, violent attacks in communities across America. *

Too many innocent Americans have fallen victim to the unthinkable violence of MS-13s animals.

At the State of the Union in January 2018, President Trump brought as his guests Elizabeth Alvarado, Robert Mickens, Evelyn Rodriguez, and Freddy Cuevas, the parents of Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas. Police believe these young girls were chased down and brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members on Long Island, New York, in 2016. Suffolk County Police Commissioner stated that the murders show a level of brutality that is close to unmatched.

In Maryland, MS-13s animals are accused of stabbing a man more than 100 times and then decapitating him, dismembering him, and ripping his heart out of his body. Police believe MS-13 members in Maryland also savagely beat a 15-year-old human trafficking victim. The MS-13 animals used a bat and took turns beating her nearly 30 times in total.

In Houston, Texas, two MS-13 members were charged after kidnapping and sexually assaulting one girl and murdering another. The two MS-13 animals laughed, smiled, and waved for cameras in court as they faced the charges.

New York communities have suffered tremendously from the abhorrent violence of MS-13. Nearly 40 percent of all murders in Suffolk County, New York between January 2016 and June 2017 were tied to MS-13.

In January 2017, MS-13 members were charged with killing and hacking up a teenager in Nassau County. MS-13s animals reportedly saw the murder as a way to boost their standing in the gang. In April 2017, police believe four young men were brutally murdered by MS-13 animals on Long Island. One victim was a young man in town visiting family during an Easter week vacation. Just last month, in April 2018, MS-13 reportedly called for its members on Long Island to kill a cop for the sake of making a statement.

*WHY: MS-13 is a transnational gang which follows the motto of kill, rape, control by committing shocking acts of violence in an attempt to instill fear and gain control. *

MS-13 is a transnational gang that has brought violence, fear, and suffering to American communities.* *MS-13, short for Mara Salvatrucha, commits shocking acts of violence to instill fear, including machete attacks, executions, gang rape, human trafficking, and more. In their motto, the animals of MS-13 make clear their goal is to kill, rape, control. The gang has more than 10,000 members in the United States spreading violence and suffering.

Recent investigations have revealed MS-13 gang leaders based in El Salvador have been sending representatives into the United States illegally to connect the leaders with local gang members. These foreign-based gang leaders direct local members to become even more violent in an effort to control more territory.

President Trumps entire Administration is working tirelessly to bring these violent animals to justice.

[Extraneus]

And further, how do we know the grand jury is in Utah and not DC? Btw, do federal crimes need to be prosecuted in the same place they were committed, or just inside the US, since by definition it's a crime against the country?

[Marlene]

Good Morning! I'm looking forward to the *shocked* faces in Congress,especially in the Senate. There are some House members who support Trump,the Senate RINOs are probably looking for safe spaces.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Swearing-in ceremony with President Trump of the new CIA Director, live stream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_pPB0StGLo

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

Henry: " if the Chinese buy up the surplus, no need for ethanol production in the farm bill and we can all drive using real gas."

If Congress has to vote on it, IMO we will never get rid of the ethanol mess because too many Democrats are getting rich off of the plants.

[henry]

Logic fail. Why do people insist that their imagination must be happening, thenclaim stupidity on the part of those who don't buy in? An absence of evidence of something is not equal to a failure to be transparent about it.

DJS NOLA @canalvillere
Replying to @MsTriaI @NameRedacted7

im really confused why people think this all needs to be made public? unlike previous showboating this is clearly being kept lowkey for reasons. why do they keep pushing this narrative ?

[lurkersusie]

From Michael B. Mukasey,

“For both legal and political reasons, the end of this investigation is
overdue.”

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/35157745?__twitter_impression=true

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

student demands.

IMO, the suggested remedy would generate more demand for administrators. IMO, the list of administrators required to met federal paper wasting demand should be cut to Zero.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Extraneus,

Here's how you know it's not in DC:

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900014340/utahs-us-attorney-john-huber-is-helping-investigate-fbi-justice-department-concerns.html

[anonamom]

janet, 8:25---YES!! EXACTLY!!!

You have THE VERY BEST files.

Thank you for clarifying that. And that is EXACTLY how they operate.
(i'd say think, but that gives them too much credit.)
I knew that; thank you for reminding me.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

https://clarionproject.org/west-virginia-islam-public-school/

The shahada — which states, “There is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his messenger” — is used in the conversion process to Islam.

IMO, any school in the US that does this should be closed.

[Old Lurker]

TK 10:26. I think you are being too kind to the GOPe, TK. Many of them went easy on the Obama appointments because they too wanted the same outcome. I no longer will ever think otherwise. We could not dig this deep a hole just by ignoring what the Left was doing. This mess required the active wink-wink collaboration by both parties to get this bad.

[Extraneus]

I don't understand, MM. That article doesn't say there's a GJ, or where it is if there is. Has the existence of a Huber GJ been verified?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

President Trump at Langley thanks Senator Burr for being there and also thanks Devin Nunes, whom he calls "courageous" and then emphasizes courageous again.

[Thomas Collins]

"How many jurors do you suppose read tweets?"

I think, clarice, that if the tweets are sufficiently covered in national media, it wouldn't matter whether jurors had twitter accounts. The issue you raise is a fascinating one (at least to me). Does a defendant have a better case of fair trial impingement on the basis of governmental official Facebook posts, tweets, Instagrams? How about guest appearances by Trump on JOM? Now that I think of it, clarice, surely you can use your DC connections to get POTUS to post here! :-)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Extraneus,

I am looking for the source for the grand Jury. The first article was simply to let you know that it wasn't in DC. (There is a statement in the article in which Sessions says so.)

[clarice feldman]

Judge Nap on Daily Caller:“So this guy is in Utah. If he comes to Washington, D.C., and gets a half-dozen federal prosecutors assigned to him and a dozen or so FBI agents assigned to you him — He is a de facto special counsel. He’s doing what needs to be done,” Napolitano said. “He’ll impanel a grand jury. They’ll present evidence to the grand jury. The grand jury will issue subpoenas. If the subpoenas don’t work, he’ll go to a federal judge and get a search warrant.”

Napolitano thinks Huber must make the trip the D.C. to be effective, because his power would be limited if he remains in Utah.

“If he stays in Utah. He cannot impanel a grand jury in Utah to examine something that happened in D.C.,” Napolitano said. “All the evidence is in D.C. You’re examining NSA, FBI, DOJ, present and past. The Utah grand jury does not have jurisdiction over events in D.C.”

“He will be toothless if he stays in Utah,” Napolitano concluded. “I’ve never heard of an effective criminal prosecution without a grand jury. You present evidence to the grand jury. You get the grand jury to issue a subpoena.”

[Extraneus]

I saw that, Clarice, but is it true? Do federal crimes need to be prosecuted where they occur?

[Extraneus]

Seems like kind of a strange rule if so, since the crime is against the US, not a particular state or district.

[Extraneus]

Harvard To Give Hillary Medal For "Transformative Impact On Society"

Hillary Clinton, who paid for an opposition research dossier which was used by the Obama administration to justify surveiling her political opponent, Donald Trump, and later to smear him as the sitting President, will receive Harvard's prestigious Radcliffe Medal on Friday for having a "transformative impact on society," according to the Ivy League university.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/does-the-justice-department-have-to-tell-congress-what-mueller-is-doing?platform=hootsuite

clarice,

If you haven't seen this article, take a look at it.

[Threadkiller]

True.

[Gentlejim]

Student demands-
Admin response-
“You’re being ridiculous”
“STFU”
“Go back to class”
No need for additional admin or bullshit paperwork.

I need to get ready to head to Indy. I’ll catch up when I’m there.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Gentlejim,

See you tomorrow at 6PM!

[Extraneus]

Supreme Court Crushes Unions By Limiting Collective Action Bargaining

[Eye Doctor]

John Huber is in place to protect the Deep State secrets. Utah is a hot bed of criminal activity tied to players like Orrin Hatch.

[Extraneus]

Despite losing GOP primary, convicted ex-coal exec Don Blankenship says he’ll run for Senate as third-party candidate.

[Extraneus]

Sheesh. New thread!

[Eye Doctor]

Utah is the multi level marketing capital of the world. Combined with LDS, Utah is very powerful in DC swamp.

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

I thought some one said that a lot of grand jury indictments had all ready be handed down (20,000 I think I heard) and nothing happens. Hillary and the rest of the democrats are still running free. Instead of getting prison uniforms, she is getting awards from a university that should be closed IMO.

[Jim Eagle]

One of the adults in the room, not many but at least Mattis is head of the class. What a great interview. Only for those who want to learn where we are as far as mililtary preparedness and what more we need to do.

https://tinyurl.com/yagyloqy

[Beasts of England]

Trump you magnificent bastard - I read your book!!

[Kevlar Kid]

Blipping on for a sec this fine a.m.

Journalism "graduation" at Columbia U. I disagree with this kernel (and a whole lot more) uttered by the commencement speaker (Maggie Haberman spoke the day before)....

"But being cunning means, for starters, you have to get really hardcore about how you begin those stories. How you’re going to pull people in and get them listening.

And again, this is kind of terrible thing to say … but our goal is to get them pulled in and listening before they actually understand what the story’s about."

Really? Journalists must be "cunning" and "hardcore?" The word he was looking for is "ruthless", no?

Here's the link to get a glimpse of what the "elders" are saying from MFM echo chamber:

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/about/announcements/ira-glass-commencement-speech

Hope the days ahead find a satchel charge heading into that condescending perv's bunker during their staff meeting.

IHTFP.

[Kevlar Kid]

Ext:

Huber is "probing" the FBI. Here's a named source describing in what capacity---

"“He will have the full authority of a federal prosecutor,” said Richard Painter, former chief ethics attorney for President George W. Bush. “If he looks at this and finds someone in the DOJ lied to a government official, he would be able to convene a grand jury, compel testimony and even prosecute them.”"

The rest of the article.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/1/john-huber-us-attorney-leading-fbi-investigation-s/

In a contrasting view, by Judge Nappy, Huber is caricatured as "toothless so long as he remains in Utah."

Sessions must be over the target.

Kev

Googled: huber utah grand jury