Lots To Criticize For The DoJ IG

Based on leaks of the nearly-finished report by the Inspector General of the DoJ, there was a lot to dislike about the Comey/Lynch handling of the see-no-evil "investigation" of the Hillary email debacle.

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[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Not much new stuff this morning - a lot of it got posted last night.

Back later.

[Janet 🚬]

((That Breitbart article linked earlier in the day about the GOP donors threatening to close the money spigots unless Amigo Grande is passed by some bit of legislative chicanery made me want to vomit.))

Here's that link - http://www.breitbart.com/2018-elections/2018/06/05/gop-megadonors-go-on-strike-demand-ryan-approve-amnesty-vote/

[Janet 🚬]

When looking for that link this came up -

Feb 2018 - http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/17/top-gop-donor-no-money-without-assault-weapons-ban/

"GOP mega donor and real estate developer Al Hoffman Jr. says he will not write another check to Republicans until that pass an “assault weapons” ban."

[Another Bob]

These sob stories about illegals being detained are almost always packed with lies and/or deceptions.

Um, Chica? Yes, he was criminal as being here illegally is, um, illegal; as is ignoring a deportation order from a judge. When he couldn’t produce a proper ID, he signed a paper agreeing to a check which discovered a warrant. All per the usual procedures that everybody undergoes when accessing secured facilities.

Surely we don’t expect MPs to encounter a noncitizen with no proper ID and an outstanding warrant attempting to gain access to a military facility and simply say “OK, be on your way”?

I’d like someone to ask to see Chica’s papers too.

This is one of the most non-controversial stories I could imagine.

[Janet 🚬]

March 2018 - Schwarzenegger: Rich Donors Should ‘Starve’ the GOP into Becoming Liberal

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/03/22/schwarzenegger-rich-donors-starve-gop-becoming-liberal/

"...Schwarzenegger told a crowd at the launch event for his centrist Republican advocacy group New Way California."

[Buckeye]

Hmmm, my apologies for triggering Maryrose with my provocative hyperbole yesterday.

I suspect we have different views of elected officials.

Some think of politicians as a special group, deserving of respect, or at a minimum, the benefit of the doubt.

I see them as the hired help, better keep a close eye on them so they don't screw off or rob you blind.

[Marlene]

Good Morning! Downeast Maine was occupied during the War of 1812. The district east of the Penobscot was brought into the British empire for the duration of the war. Eastport,Castine,Belfast and Bangor were all occupied. The colony was called New Ireland and would have been another Canadian province. Fun fact: Massachusetts did nothing to defend its eastern district,which caused long simmering resentment.

[Jane]

Maryrose,

Several years ago, KimAnn sent me a framed, signed, picture of Trey Gowdy, which I actually moved down here with me, because I loved him so much. My kind of guy.

Recently when Gowdy came out and said "The FBI was doing what they were supposed to do, and not spying" I understood he was answering a different question than the one the media was attributing to him.

But at this point he is either utterly unaware of what is going on at the DOJ and FBI - which is inexcusable given his position or he is covering for them, IMO.

Frankly it breaks my heart.

[James D.]

I see them as the hired help

That's exactly what they are.

Unfortunately, they're hired help who get to raise their own salaries and change the rules by which they can be fired at their whim.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
7m7 minutes ago

Isn’t it Ironic? Getting ready to go to the G-7 in Canada to fight for our country on Trade (we have the worst trade deals ever made), then off to Singapore to meet with North Korea & the Nuclear Problem...But back home we still have the 13 Angry Democrats pushing the Witch Hunt!

[Captain Hate]

I think that the people who envisioned the EU thought of themselves as a European version of the US. A counter-balance, if you will, a chance to be as important as the US was.

And yet, the EU, as of now, is a collection of a couple of dozen Californias.

That was the plan and I think they envisioned being stronger economically than the US (I remember some lefty jerkoff fantasies about OPEC only accepting payment in Euros to marginalize and devalue the dollar and put us in our place). The trouble for them was it had no chance of succeeding. Even the lib New York Review of Books pointed out that none of the original members satisfied the original financial requirements. The idea of historic nation state entities submitting to centralized control was as stupid as it gets. Even previous voluntary agreements between countries like France and Germany always rewarded the more abundant spenders as Germany found out.

I've previously thought that our states should act more independent and tell the Feds to fuck off but that only seems to happen with loon states like Mexifornia, so so much for that.

[Marlene]

CH and Maryrose...are you being attacked by swarms of midges? The weather here has been rainy and cool,the mosquitoes love it!

[henry]

Worth reading the whole thing:

Jim Crow is on the loose everywhere, it seems. Anytime honest elections are promoted, Jim Crow appears.

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/trump-census-citizenship-question-helps-black-americans/

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

A new edition of Things James Clapper Did Not Know, courtesy of his extensive interview with @hughhewitt this morning: https://t.co/iM6JLzHCAO pic.twitter.com/6NOgE13vuc

— Byron York (@ByronYork) June 7, 2018

Screen shot of a portion of the transcript at the link. Link in tweet goes to complete interview with Hugh Hewitt.

[Threadkiller]

Nowadays the US advises dual citizens that they are indeed subject to being conscripted by their other country.

A Natural Born Citizen thread?

I'm ready!

[henry]

CNBC @CNBC
31m

Jeb Bush: 'I don't know' if I'd ever run again, but I'd never do what Trump did to get elected

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/07/jeb-bush-i-dont-know-if-id-ever-run-again-but-id-never-do-what-trump-did-to-get-elected.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

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JEB!, we already know you would not expend any energy campaigning.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

I don't know how, but I am convinced this poisonous creep is in on the coup attempt:

llin
‏Verified account @Evan_McMullin

Trump’s pardons are not only intended desensitize the electorate to frequent interventions on behalf of his political allies, but also to make a mockery of the federal justice system, to suggest that law enforcement and the courts are incapable and illegitimate to begin with.
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Trump has pardoned 7 people.

Barack Obama pardoned over 1900.

This is a pre-emptive accusation that President Trump is delegitimizing the DOJ and FBI.

Despicable to use the clemency (not pardon) of this deserving woman is just despicable.

[James D.]

to suggest that law enforcement and the courts are incapable and illegitimate to begin with

Well, with the kind of people currently running the FBI, and staffing most of the DoJ, they ARE incapable and illegitimate.

[henry]

For Kev, another potential band name: feral peacocks

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1003969605285670913

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
28m28 minutes ago

Good luck to Alice Johnson. Have a wonderful life!

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Laramie, WY pic.twitter.com/ttFxn4YkUk

— Dev (@pondhockey93) June 7, 2018

Super clear and frightening video of a tornado at the link.

[Captain Hate]

Here you go, Marlene:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/massive-cloud-of-midges-descends-on-cleveland-registering-on-weather-radars/

Btw, around here people call them "muckleheads" although nobody quoted in the article seems to know that. They tend to stay close to the lake so we don't even notice them where I am.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

Good Morning, JOM.

Your Latin Phrase of the Day:

Crescit amor nummi, quantum ipsa pecunia crevit

OL's life story in a nutshell;)

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

MM,

The reason that Wyoming tornado was so newsworthy is that it stayed on the ground for over 45 minutes. That was one huge twister.

[Davod]

"Jeb Bush: 'I don't know' if I'd ever run again, but I'd never do what Trump did to get elected"

Did they ask Jeb what Trump did to get elected?

[Captain Hate]

Even if he did nothing else sketchy, Rear Admiral Kristol's giving Egg McMuffin national exposure is a fatal flaw.

[henry]

Davod, JEB! claimed Trump insulted people... which his his passive aggressive beta way of insulting Trump.

[Old Lurker]

Jack, I note your smiley face but that was below the belt.

"The love of wealth grows as the wealth itself grew."

[Extraneus]

Kim Jong Un Begged for Summit ‘on His Hands and Knees,’ Giuliani Says

WTF?

[Old Lurker]

For those who still labor under the misconception that your government is good at anything, enjoy this one:

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2018/06/06/troubling-us-navy-review-finds-widespread-shortfalls-in-basic-seamanship/

[James D.]

I would really, really like Rudy to just shut up, already.

[Old Lurker]

James "Well, with the kind of people currently running the FBI, and staffing most of the DoJ, they ARE incapable and illegitimate."

James, I almost never disagree, but in this you are too kind by limiting your comment to "those running...and those staffing". I myself do not absolve anybody at the FBI and DoJ for the crimes of their entire institutions, including until proven otherwise, those appointed by Donald Trump.

[James D.]

I was trying to be generous, OL...

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Amazon turns over policing of its charity program to SPLC

I use Amazon Smile and give to Project Veritas. I wonder how long until they're removed from the program.

[Old Lurker]

"I was trying to be generous, OL..."

They have forfeited any justification for such kindness, James.

[James D.]

From OL's 9:05:

“So out of 164 what we ended up seeing was kind of what we expected: We got a bell curve distribution. We had 27 who were on top, we had 108 who were in the middle and we had 29 who were kind of at the lower end,” he said.

Given that we're employing human beings to crew our ships, that's unavoidable.

The problem is where the lower end is set. A minimum ought to be "won't crash their multi-billion-dollar warship into a lumbering civilian freighter" and it seems that we're not there.

[James D.]

No argument here, OL.

[henry]

I don't understand this (the Racine part), and of course no reason is offered.

Racine County's homeless population has seen a 42% increase in the last year.

Statewide, the total homeless population has dropped three years in a row.

http://www.cbs58.com/news/racine-countys-homeless-population-up-42-from-last-year

[jimmyk]

"Jeb Bush: 'I don't know' if I'd ever run again, but I'd never do what Trump did to get elected"

Win at least 270 electoral college votes? I think he has stumbled onto the truth.

[narciso]

Mike fernandez used to be on the expressway authority, big joke, and then resigned to make some sort of statement toward gov luther, one hAnd clapping.

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First IDF female tank training graduates.

(Click to enlarge.)

http://strategypage.com/military_photos/military_photos_20180606123728.aspx

[Catsmeat]

narciso, the class wasn't all horror though both Grimm and Andersen tales have horrid things in them (e.g., in "The Red Shoes" the heroine has to have an executioner cut her feet off to be rid of the dancing shoes--the ballet productions of this story for some reason leave this detail out!). But when we got to the uncanny, we really rolled--some student even remembered the idea of the vagina dentata (or dentens, for Jack), though she couldn't remember the term for it. The body language of the few guys in the class was memorable (perfectly understandable). I had to let them know that this idea has been around probably since there have been humans--you can't blame everything on Freud, just a whole lot.

[Another Bob]

Ext, James, even my morning scumbag radio news called that fake news. The quote in the NY Daily News did not match its headline. The WSJ piece is paywalled for me.

But yes, not seeing what value Rudy is adding at this point. I also don’t trust him.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

OL,

Sorry. Didn't mean to demean your success.

It is from one of Juvenalis' poems in his Satires.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
5m5 minutes ago

Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law Professor: “It all proves that we never needed a Special Counsel....All of this could have been done by the Justice Dept. Don’t need a multi-million dollar group of people with a target on someone’s back. Not the way Justice should operate.” So true!

[Old Lurker]

James, all of human endeavors derive from a Bell Curve. It is among the most important jobs of managers to arrange their diverse resources in an optimal way to a) accomplish the mission of the organization, and b) avoid destroying the organization in the process.

Ike won WWII using human resources consisting of all slices of the Bell Curve. Corporations accomplish the same every single day. Other institutions as well.

For the Navy to fail at this is an indictment of the first order.

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

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Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
8m8 minutes ago

When and where will all of the many conflicts of interest be listed by the 13 Angry Democrats (plus) working on the Witch Hunt Hoax. There has never been a group of people on a case so biased or conflicted. It is all a Democrat Excuse for LOSING the Election. Where is the server?

[Another Bob]

SPLC? Really?

Will have to seriously reconsider my relationship with Amazon again..

[Old Lurker]

I know, Jack. I am just touchy about that "love of wealth" thing since my earliest days in Sunday School and while I decided early on that I would rather be rich than poor, in my fantasy mind I have always acted so that I could defend against the "love of" sin when the time comes for me to answer for my life.

TMI, but there you have it.

[Extraneus]

He should be out with guns blazing if he didn't say it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=on+his+hands+and+knees+and+begged&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS791US791&oq=on+his+hands+and+knees+and+begged

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Josh Caplan
‏ @joshdcaplan
14m14 minutes ago

YAHOO NEWS: Colin Kaepernick's legal team expected to subpoena President Trump in case against NFL
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This guy's 15 minutes expired about a year ago.

[Jack is Back (Again)!]

In re, OL's Defense Watch link above: What did they expect when most of the time at USNA they are sitting in seminars on trans-sexual acceptance and the merits of diversity. Wouldn't it they have been better served with a few classes on navigation, radar basics and how to steer a 20K ton warship?

[narciso]

The injunction, is not against building up riches, but make it so much a priority, that it becomes an idol, a violation of the first commandment.

[Janet 🚬]

Where were McMullin & the MFM when Gov. McAuliffe (& I think other Dem. Govs. now)was trying to quickly restore voting rights to felons before the NOv. elections?
The MFM cheered McAuliffe on.

A court stopped the blanket move, but McAuliffe got busy signing every restoration.

[Davod]

"The problem is where the lower end is set. A minimum ought to be "won't crash their multi-billion-dollar warship into a lumbering civilian freighter" and it seems that we're not there."

This Navy Times article 'Maybe today’s Navy is just not very good at driving ships'
By: Mark D. Faram, August 27, 2017 explains the problem. A small part is included below:

"...TRAINING IN A BOX

For nearly 30 years, all new surface warfare officers spent their first six months in uniform at the Surface Warfare Officer’s School in Newport, Rhode Island, learning the theory behind driving ships and leading sailors as division officers.

But that changed in 2003. The Navy decided to eliminate the “SWOS Basic” school and simply send surface fleet officers out to sea to learn on the job. The Navy did that mainly to save money, and the fleet has suffered severely for it, said retired Cmdr. Kurt Lippold.

“The Navy has cut training as a budgetary device and they have done it at the expense of our ability to operate safely at sea,” said Lippold, who commanded the destroyer Cole in 2000 when it was attacked by terrorists in Yemen.

After 2003, each young officer was issued a set of 21 CD-ROMs for computer-based training — jokingly called “SWOS in a Box” — to take with them to sea and learn. Young officers were required to complete this instructor-less course in between earning their shipboard qualifications, management of their divisions and collateral duties..."

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/08/27/navy-swos-a-culture-in-crisis/

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IG Leaks – Media Frame Clinton/Obama Defense: James Comey as “Insubordinate”…

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[henry]

new thread

[Extraneus]

NEW THREAD

[maryrose]

Joan:
Thank you for your thoughtful post.
Jane:
Yes I am puzzled by the comments but still believe there is more we need to know before condemning people.
As a counselor I need to see both sides and determine for myself what the real truth is in given situation.
As to Congress ,
I have different expectations than many posters here.
Marlene:
I am not very far from Lake Erie.
Sometimes my back screen door is covered in midges.
Your history lesson wrt the War of 1812 was fascinating to me.
I didn’t know those facts.

[boris]

"I need to see both sides and determine for myself what the real truth is in given situation"

Hence my comment about Ryan and Trey accepting the "Dog Ate My Homework" excuse at face value and granting an A on the assignment because "benefit of doubt". It is so perfectly reasonable to do so wouldn't you agree?

[SLOTH]

Three new reports highlight the laziness problem. First, Trump is acting cranky and resentful in anticipation of his journey to faraway Canada. “President Trump is planning to fly to Canada on Friday. He is not exactly happy about it,” reports the Washington Post. “Trump is a homebody president, preferring to sleep in the White House — or at one of his signature properties — than in hotels, so he is generally reluctant to take long journeys. Furthermore, he prefers visiting places where he is feted — such as on his trips last year to Beijing, Paris and the Saudi capital — over attending summits where the attending leaders are treated as equals.”

Apparently nobody informed Trump that the job involves foreign travel. He also has little patience with domestic functions. The Post obtained audio of his meeting with FEMA to discuss preparedness for hurricane season. You might think Trump would grasp the importance of the issue given that thousands of Americans died on his watch in the wake of a bungled hurricane response in Puerto Rico. You would be wrong. Trump was totally unable to concentrate on the task at hand.