When Trust is Gone...

Was Crossfire Hurricane launched as part of an entrapment exercise to take out insurance against a Trump Presidency? I have no idea if this is true but it certainly strikes me as plausible, which is an alarming comment on my cynicism at a minimum and public distrust of our 'establishment' at worst.

Well. I have sounded this kazoo before.

 

Comments

[Old Lurker]

" which is an alarming comment on my cynicism at a minimum and public distrust of our 'establishment' at worst."

Allow me to be the first to welcome TM to my world.

[henry]

we should all sound the kazoos of vengence! (note, I have a couple extra kazoos for you slackers).

[sbwaters]

Just not vuvuzelas, please.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Anyone notice how very white and privileged most of these protesters are?

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Early this year Harley-Davidson said they would move much of their plant operations in Kansas City to Thailand. That was long before Tariffs were announced. Hence, they were just using Tariffs/Trade War as an excuse. Shows how unbalanced & unfair trade is, but we will fix it.....

[henry]

Uber will be allowed to continue operating in London after a judge overturned a ban in the U.K. capital on Tuesday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/26/uber.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

[Old Lurker]

If you can read this, or at least savor the cover photo, I will provide in a later post some backstory for the amusement of long time JOMers:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/cloud-atlases-what-are-those-weird-sculptures-atop-this-kalorama-building/2018/06/23/7f735828-7663-11e8-805c-4b67019fcfe4_story.html?utm_term=.7d2ef2ad1e9d

[Tom R]

Reposting from the last thread.

Unless the FBI releases ALL of the evidence that congress wants, I'm going to assume the worst

Who classified the FBI 50k-65k emails Top Secret? The answer to that question is not public knowledge yet.

If it was Trump or someone who works for him that classified the FBI emails Top Secret, then that explains why the DOJ refuses to give them to Congress. Trump doesn't want the info made public yet.

If it was Obama or someone who worked for him that classified them Top Secret as part of the coverup, then those emails are now evidence of a crime which also explains why the DOJ is not giving them to Congress.

Why would you assume the worst when all the plausible explanations work out in Trump's favor?

[Rocco]

TomR,

I left my reply at the end of the last thread.

[Jane]

In case you missed Rocco's link (or his duck drowning)...

https://truepundit.com/fbi-official-fbi-agents-threatened-physical-harm-president-trump-missing-fbi-texts-frightening-communications/

[Threadkiller]

Now that SCOUTS has explained that The Executive has the authority to ban anyone for any reason, prior to the visa stage of the "immigrant's" journey to US, will Trump drop the hammer on people trying to legally come from Mexico until Mexico solves the border problem?

No work visas, no student visas, no travel visas, nothing. "Dear Mexico, clean up this mess or the ports of entry get closed."

[President* Clown]

Conspiracy to defraud the US government is as RICO as you can get

[R E PEARY]

The travel ban is legal.

[Tom R]

Rocco,

If the allegations in your Truepundit article are true, then that just further strengthens the point I made yesterday that it was likely Trump or someone who works for him that designated the 50k-65k emails Top Secret. If I am correct then the DOJ withholding the Top Secret emails from Congress is exactly what you would expect them to do if those emails are being used as evidence in a criminal proceeding.

[henry]

interview from Lybia:

this note on Hillary's approach to security in Benghazi is interesting.

First, this operation was led by Ansar al-Sharia, an al-Qaeda affiliate in Libya, and also another militia called the 17 February Martyrs Brigade, which is one of the Muslim Brotherhood Shield militias that took part in this attack. Qatar is the main supporter and financier of the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda in Libya. In this particular brutal attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi they provided weapons and communication equipment to the terrorist militias.

The paradox here is that the 17 February Muslim Brotherhood militia was the militia that the U.S. contracted to protect the consulate. They had an agreement with the attackers to fake a weapons clash, then later opened the gates into the consulate for them.

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/07/11/exclusive-libyan-army-spox-says-obama-clinton-abandoned-the-libyan-people-to-the-terrorists/

[Nancy Brotzman]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/26/reality-winner-former-nsa-contractor-who-s-accused-leaking-documents-pleaded-guilty.html

Winner? I don't think so.

[President* Doofus]

At the same time, the court used the case to address the 1944 Supreme Court decision upholding the internment camps used to detain people of Japanese ancestry during World War II.

[President* Doofus]

Derp State wins

[Davod]

"Qatar is the main supporter and financier of the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda in Libya."

Any Qatari donations to the Clinton Foundation at that time?

[Ellen Hanratty]

Hi Nancy, long time no see.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

HB catsmeat!

[Narciso]

Excellently crafted decision, korematsu was of course a travesty, not surprising earl Warren pushed it,

I thought this whole ring of squirrel was designed to hide the capture of Qatar's man in Libya, bin qumu.

[Popsicle Toes]

Gus is beside himself Ignatz gas left him for another woman.

[Catsmeat]

Willowed on last thread:
Thanks, everybody, for the birthday wishes! Husband ran out to get me lox and bagels early this morning, so a good start. I am going to work in the garden (which I like doing), go to the pool and read, and then have Delmonico steaks for dinner--plus catch up here. Again, thanks!

And Jack, I never mind people knowing my age. I do look really good, given, so there's that, but also, I just hate pretense.

[henry]

Now Internet of Things used for domestic abuse. What isn't it good for?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/26/thermostats-locks-and-lights-digital-tools-of-domestic-abuse.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

[Momto2]

OT but I like it and thought you might, too!

http://seandietrich.com/the-girl/

Happy Birthday, Catsmeat!

[Nancy Brotzman]

Mary Flade called, you remember Mary don't you Ellen?

[R E PEARY]

Hi guys, I'm sending out letters to all the others from our high school days. We should get together soon.

[Marlene]

Happy Birthday Catsmeat!

Yay! We have a new grand-niece. Because hubby is in Bangor waiting for the dog's procedure to finish,he was able to go to the hospital to visit our nephew and see the baby. He texted me a sweet picture of his sister holding her brand new granddaughter.

[James D.]

From henry's 1:18 link:

One of the women, a doctor in Silicon Valley, said her husband, an engineer, “controls the thermostat. He controls the lights. He controls the music.” She said, “Abusive relationships are about power and control, and he uses technology.”

She said she did not know how all of the technology worked or exactly how to remove her husband from the accounts. But she said she dreamed about retaking the technology soon.

“I have a specific exit plan that I’m in the process of implementing, and one of my fantasies is to be able to say, ‘O.K. Google, play whatever music I want,’” she said. Her plan with the smart thermostat, she said, was to “pull it out of the wall.”

OK, I do see how this kind of technology could be used in the ways described. But, seriously, this woman is a doctor, and she can't figure out which app controls the thermostat?

[Neo]

In 1944, the Supreme Court allowed the US government to imprison Japanese Americans solely because of their national origin and ethnicity, based on empty claims of national security.

The travel ban is just like the Japanese internment as they are imprisoned in their home country, except in the travel ban case, the home country isn’t the US

[henry]

James, as long as she knows the wrist bone is connected to the thigh bone or whatever.

[henry]

hmmm: I need to figure out what this is, since they didn't link to the decision itself.

MacIver Institute @MacIverWisc
40s

WI Supreme Court deals big-headed bureaucrats a blow in a decision released today: "We have also decided to end our practice of deferring to administrative agencies' conclusions of law."

[clarice feldman]

GUY SOUNDS LIKE OL RE THE THERMOZSTATS. JUST SAYING.

[Don Battersby]

I don't think, you know who, is going to show up at our reunion in Gaithersburg. I heard he's quite sick.

[Robert Peary]

It's pretty nice that the old high school is being put to such good use.
The Berman Hebrew Academy is a wonderful asset to the town.
Don't you think so?

[sbwaters]

I just hate pretense.

Yeah, and postense, too.

Happy Birthday!

[Porchlight]

Happy birthday Catsmeat!

[henry]

This explains a little more of what the WI SC just did, but still doesn't describe the case at hand.

https://www.wispolitics.com/2018/wisconsin-institute-for-law-and-liberty-state-supreme-court-ends-administrative-agency-deference-protecting-separation-of-powers/

[clarice feldman]

Henry, I applaud that. This deference has gotten out of hand and ought to be reserved for factual findings that are not off the wall.

[henry]

Thanks Clarice. I like it as well. It just seems odd that the facts of the case got buried. (something to do with back taxes, although no one comments on what or how that part of the ruling turned out).

[henry]

Australia's richest man, Anthony Pratt, of "Pratt institutes" says Trump's tax plan is going to cause a tsunami of investment in the USA. Pratt will invest 2 Billion dollars and create 5,000 manufacturing jobs in America's mid-west. Says Trump is very popular in Australia

https://twitter.com/1776stonewall/status/1011607962589319168?s=12

[Beasts of England]

We've been making that exact case in the comment sections for many months, Maguire!! And we wuz rat...

(I apologize for being on topic)

[Beasts of England]

Happy Birthday, Catsmeat!! :)

[Old Lurker]

James (Clarice) "OK, I do see how this kind of technology could be used in the ways described. But, seriously, this woman is a doctor, and she can't figure out which app controls the thermostat?"

I was laughing reading that thinking of the scene after Mrs.OL finally kicks me out and becomes so frustrated that the thermostats are not working that she finally calls a repairman. After he takes them all apart, he says "Lady, did you know none of these are actually connected? We found hidden thermostats for each zone that do work. How odd is that?"

[Threadkiller]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/breaking-james-comey-personally-killed-immunity-deal-with-julian-assange-who-could-have-proved-where-leaked-emails-came-from/

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Happy Birthday, Catsmeat!

So after several Federal judges had tantrums, the SC smacks them down hard. Who the hell do they think they are throwing monkey wrenches into clearly enunciated powers of the Executive Branch?

And @ 75% of the wailing and gnashing of teeth is the result of Trump rescinding Obama's EO's or on the case of the poor illegal chirrup, enforcing Obama's law.

Do these judges now get sent down to the minors? Put in the stocks for public mockery? C'mon, there has to be a consequence for such malfeasance.

[Old Lurker]

Henry "This explains a little more of what the WI SC just did, but still doesn't describe the case at hand."

We had three days of NE Rain the past few days so we binge watched the Netflix "Making a Murderer" about a famous murder in WI which, even if the show was slanted hard SJW nonetheless showed some very questionable "justice" being applied. My wife kept saying "The DA can't do this or that and so on up each level of appeal" to which I kept saying "you do not want to talk to my friend Henry about the legal system in WI!"

[henry]

LOL OL. You do not want to talk to people in WI about Dassey. The show left out quite a lot of background info on that loser.

[Momto2]

OL - it was you! When I read that link I remembered someone here recounting how they tricked their wife with the thermostat. I've told your story several times.

[Momto2]

Do these judges now get sent down to the minors? Put in the stocks for public mockery? C'mon, there has to be a consequence for such malfeasance.

Exactly! And when someone who entered while this was dragging through the courts for months and months murders or severely injures an American citizen, I sincerely hope it can be traced back to these judges.

[Gentlejim]

Interesting article on the techie domestic abuse. I’d have to dig around to see where that would fit in statute if at all. Harassment wouldn’t work since that’s tied to communication. Hmmm...

[henry]

Gentlejim, IoT uses communication to function. Each change in setting is a comm.

[Threadkiller]

Gadg-lighting

[Old Lurker]

Henry, coincidentally I saw that SCOTUS just yesterday refused to hear Dassey's final appeal.

My takeaway from every character on that show was "see what a 70 IQ does to you?".

[Eye Doctor]

Tom R

By your theory, releasing the information would ensure prosecutions.

Why not release it?

[Gentlejim]

Nice try, Henry. :)

[Momto2]

David Burge

@iowahawkblog

Can't wait for all the tweets exhorting mobs to surround and Nazi-punch the Supreme Court

[Eye Doctor]

Tom R

When information is kept from the public it is usually done so that political deals can be made. In other words Cover-up!

[Eye Doctor]

Tom R

You are at odds with yourself now.

[Cynthia]

Honey, will you be home for dinner? Or will you be trolling over here?

[Eye Doctor]

Tom R

When Mueller kept the fact that Denny Hastert was a pederast the Deep State owned the Speaker of the House.

[Thomas Collins]

In light of how many governmental officials have acted after Trump was elected, I wouldn't think it surprising that entrapment schemes were hatched and implemented before the campaign. I think a safe statement to make is this: No matter what bad stuff is made public, it's worse than we think.

[Eye Doctor]

Tom R

Tell us again how "4d Texas Hold Em" works

[Tom R]

Perhaps Clarice or some other lawyer can explain to Eye Doctor why the DOJ would not want to publicly release evidence that will be used in a trial before the trial actually starts.

[Eye Doctor]

TC

It's much worse. Because it opens up the unbelievable corruption that was prior to Trump entering the picture.

[Captain Hate]

Supreme Court travel ban decision should've been 9-0. The Wide Latina is dumber than she is overweight and Jizzberger has ceased all activity from the neck up.

[Captain Hate]

F Chuck says Trandrea has a high school level understanding of foreign policy?

[Eye Doctor]

Yes Tom R, let's all discuss how it really works in court. There are no Perry Mason moments in court, Tom. No surprises.

[Eye Doctor]

Tom R

Why don't you explain to me how prosecutors do their job?

[Jim Eagle]

OL,

I know 2101 Conn. Ave. because I looked at an apartment there when I first moved to DC. They were Coops or condos can't remember which but it was a great location (too near Adams-Morgan for me) and I wasn't interested in buying since I knew I would only be there for 5 years. Went up to Connecticut and Ellicott in Chevy Chase (DC). Had that Politics and Prose bookshop where you could lounge and watch all the brain-washed progs come in sipping their lattes.

Ping Pong Pizza is now there as a neighbor. Great location. I could off the metro at Van Ness and hit Calvert-Woodley Wine and Liquors as well as Giant at the same time and my evening repasse and libations were in hand.

[JM Hanes]

Catsmeat!

[Eye Doctor]

Tom R

Information made public produce more information. Whistleblowers come forward etc., etc.

Do you have any prosecutorial experience?

Or do you just play "4d Texas Hold Em" with yourself?

[Tom R]

It would appear all the points I made about the Top Secret FBI emails either 1) went completely over Eye Doctor's head or 2) caused him to realize that the DOJ had a perfectly legitimate reason for not turning them over to Congress and his self esteem apparently can't cope with that.

[Jane]

I kid you not:

A liberal at a website I frequent just posted this to me:

"How about the President being married to woman (Melania) whos
father was a card carrying member of the communist party. That's a
fact, not a National Enquirer headline. Ever heard of espionage?
You good?"

~~

Is that what democrats believe?

[Eye Doctor]

You're still dodging Tom R.

[GUS]

Is there going to be a TRIAL???? When does it start?

[GUS]

Tom are you going to cry again??? Don't cry Tom, just tell us when the trial starts.

[Eye Doctor]

Tom R

Did the DoJ have a "pefectly legitiment reason" to conceal the fact that Dennis Hastert was a pederast?

[GUS]

Jane, what is the website?

[Jane]

It's called "THe New Cafe". I've been there for years and hated for years. 90% liberals.

[Jim Eagle]

Tom R,

Let GUS tell you why it is a mistake of patience and social contact much less intelligent repartee to engage Marty (aka Eye Doctor & Ernie Souchak). I just killfile him and his nonsense. No dialogue, no argument only asks questions in a leading manner as if he was a credited journalist or lawyer. Which he is not. Only a blog pest.

YMMV. Just suggesting.

[GUS]

We love you here.

[Porchlight]

Jane, ValJar's FIL was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party and that was a hell of a lot more voluntary than anyone's affiliation in Eastern Bloc Slovenia.

And ValJar was/is an appointed adviser and still lives with the Obamas, which is damned weird any way you slice it.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/06/communism-in-jarretts-family/

[Eye Doctor]

What are you JIB?

[Pinandpuller]

Matt 12:28 PM

Someone I was just listening to, perhaps Dave Smith, noted that most feminists and cultural marxists don't have kids or real jobs to tie them down. I'm sure protesting is one of the arts Nancy Pelosi had in mind when she was pushing universal health care or universal basic income. I forget which.

[Porchlight]

Honestly though I have no idea whether it's true that Melania's dad was a Party member.

[Eye Doctor]

JIB

Are you defending Mueller's decision to cover up Hastert's pederast activities?

[Tom R]

JiB,

Based on their shared mutual obsession towards me, I wouldn't be surprised if Eye Doctor and Gus are the same person.

[Dave (in MA)]

Libs being anti-communist?
Adorable.

[GUS]

Tom R, when you broke down and cried and told me to FUCK MYSELF twice. Were you enjoining in a MATURE ADULT discussion?? Tom, I don't give a fiddlers fart what you post. I've been here a long long time son, and if we meet, you'll find out who I am.

[Eye Doctor]

JIB

Was Dennis Hastert ever prosecuted for being a pederast? No!

Did Mueller and everyone at the DoJ know and have proof that Dennis Hastert was a pederast? Yes!

[Pinandpuller]

James D

From what I understand the thermostat for The Home Depot in Casper, WY, and every other one, is controlled from the home office in Atlanta (?).

Al Gore wanted the government to be able to control people's utilities, didn't he?

The doctor lady reminds me of the couple who gets their electric blanket controls switched.

[Eye Doctor]

Tom R

Was it made public that Dennis Hastert was a pederast? No!

[GUS]

Melania's father??? Let's talk about OBAMA'S pops.... FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS.
I'm pretty sure he was a COMMIE.

[Jim Eagle]

For example, where we left off:)CHAPTER 15 changed to protect the innocent from the guilty.

The Unit at Langley didn’t need the breaking news report from AP – Belltown, DE - to tell them they had lost their asset. The GPS chip inserted in Ernie’s collarbone and the visual capture iris implanted in his eye also contributed. They knew he was dead and that was the problem. They needed to head off any autopsy and recover his body STAT. Dr. Randall Fitzgibbon, the “Division’s” own Bell X2 helicopter and Max Collins with his Belgian Malinois named Cheater were on their way within 10 minutes.

In the Condition and Performance Monitoring Room, a young female system analyst, from Anchorage Alaska, graduated recently from Caltech, noticed that a number of the physical nodes used on Ernie Souchak were not checking in correctly. If he was dead then why were his oxygen levels so high and his skin and blood temperature normal? Brain function was indicative of a healthy default node network. In other words, with all biological and mental conditions reporting as they were, Ernie Souchak may not be dead.

Finding a landing area near Beebe Healthcare Hospital in Lewes, DE was not that difficult since the roof was already designated as such. Upon landing, Randall, Max and Cheater made their way to the emergency room via the elevator. Once in the ER, with much tsking-tsking from the staff because of Max and Cheater, Randall produced his credentials and Presidential order for accepting the transfer of the body of Ernie Souchak to his possession and protection.

A young ER doctor, named Dave, a young Irishman, just finished his residency at John’s Hopkins and was acting a little above his weight in questioning Randall’s credential’s, authority and bona fides. But he was soon convinced everything was in order when Cheater just looked at him and growled, teeth showing and lips a snarl. The fact that Max was also carrying his AK-47 may have something to do with the change of attitude but it was mostly Cheater’s trophy moment.

Now, from a phone call, according to the Judge, it was imperative we take possession and return to Langley, immediately. New information had been obtained to wit Dr. Randall Fitzgibbon should treat the formerly dead Ernie Souchak as a live human being with distressed mental and biological injuries. Just keep him alive was the Judges last comment.

“We have until Tuesday, Dr. Fitzgibbon. Do you understand, how important it is that we recover Mr. Souchak as an asset and reinsert him.?” The Judge was in a very impatient mood that Randall had only seen once before, when Richard Diamond had been targeted by the same Ernie Souchak.

“Judge, we have only had a few hours with him. Surely, you recognize that this is not your average medical reversal? This is on the verge of milestone science. We need more time.” Obviously, Randall was stalling for more time because he had no ideas what to do next.

“Dr. Fitzgibbon,” it was the Judge again breaking Randall’s concentration of his mediocre future, “You have until Tuesday. I need him Tuesday for another insertion at Comic Ping Pong.”

“But, Judge that is not possible. Today I am missing Thanksgiving, my wife and sons are disappointed and now you want me to perform a rising of Lazarus? I don’t think so. In fact, I am out of here to be with my family on this special day

“Dr. Fitzgibbon, you patient awaits. Do what your CV says you can do and what we know you can do. Remember, doing this makes your children more safe than watching you carve a turkey.” With that the Judge signed off, returned to his glass of Billecart-Salmon champagne and his favorite pipe.

What the hell was so important about next Tuesday, thought Randall? Why then and why the Comet Ping Pong joint again? Wasn’t Ernie most likely the guy they would least likely receive there? He needed to get to work on his recovery project and only hoped Ernie would cooperate.

After he finished his glass of champagne, the Judge called his most valuable asset, Caprice Mellman, who happened to live close enough to Comet Ping Pong to walk there. He had no intention to put her out in the chilly evening of next Tuesday but he needed her there for observation and reportage. She happened to have that night free and would oblige the Judge. She also happened to mention that an acquaintance was driving north from Florida and had indicated his interest in meeting up. Maybe Comet was the perfect place for a meet-up.

The Judge agreed that was a great non-descript plan. Ernie would be ready and the three of them there at the same time may finally bring the truth.

If only no one would interfere.

[Tent-Suit Trump]

"Harley, I Harley knew ye.."

[narciso]

Shocker Henry, you mean like Michael brown or the fellow down in Sanford, they left some details out of the story?

That Solomon piece, is a real eye opener.

[Jim Eagle]

Actually, this is where we left off, CHAPTER FIFTEEN

Jack Isbaque, tired but hungry, from a long drive up from Fayetteville, NC, or more precise, Ft. Bragg, just couldn’t avoid trying out the pizza at Comet Ping Pong on upper Connecticut Avenue. It was his old neighborhood when he lived in DC. He had a condo on Ellicott Street where he would use his premier balcony to do his daily tai-chi exercise. Now, it was owned, by some company called Divisional Optics.

Caprice Mellman, retired, successful prosecutor, bullshit detector extraordinaire, columnist and sole proprietor of the “Pitchforks and Gibbets” online store, was trying to hide herself from the wind and chill of another cold and windy day in a November Chevy Chase. This would be her first visit to the newly notorious pizza parlor just down the street from one of her favorite bookstores, “Politics and Prose”, although recently it had become politics only and the progressive, elitist, new left kind of safe space for the Washington snow flakes. After all, graduating from Yale, Wellesley, Harvard and Wisconsin, where do the freshly minted political naiveté go?

He had convinced her to meet him here simply because he had gotten some confidential information that Ernie Souchak would be there on another one of his wild goose chases. But if Jack said this was important then who was she to say no. He had done more than anyone to expose the fantastical naiveté and compulsions of the rag tag mental cripple from Chicago. What could go wrong except choking on a laughter fit?

In Poolesville, MD, an elderly but very fit gentleman was stroking his beloved Cocker Spaniel, named Archie, while enjoying a glass of Highland Park 18 year old scotch, and a pipe full of aromatic tobacco. The end was near and he knew if Caprice was correct, it was a danger less met and more than fully expected. But the insertion of Ernie Souchak, with his chips and special contacts in tact could prove to be a problem. He would have to contact Dr. Fitzgibbon of the risks ahead.

“I am in contact via the insert with Ernie, Judge. I see no change in our created personality and behavior. He will be ready in a few hours to be reinserted. And this time, can you please let the “Division” monitor hem him in so I can go home and enjoy my family?” Dr. Randall Fitzgibbon implored.

“Steady as she goes, Doctor. You will be free, like all of us, after, Caprice and Jack report back. I have a feeling someone else is going to show up and make it all a dog’s breakfast.” The Judge signed off and returned to his scotch.

And that is how we end the Thanksgiving Day chapter.

[Eye Doctor]

JIB

Let's hear you say that Robert Mueller is a crooked SOB.