Flashback - Trump Going Nuclear On Putin

This is an odd story from last spring by Jonathan Swan of Axios as reporters circle for the Trump-Putin meeting:

Scoop: The time Putin actually enraged Trump

Earlier this year in the thick of his election campaign, Vladimir Putin released a propaganda video promoting Russia's "invincible" new generation of nuclear weapons.

Why it matters: One scene in particular caught President Trump's attention, according to sources with direct knowledge. The motion graphic in Putin's video appeared to show missiles raining down on Florida — the home of Trump's Mar-a-Lago club.

Apparently in a phone call Trump told Putin what he really thought:

• In the source's recollection, Trump told Putin he thought it was "outrageous" that he'd put out the nuclear weapons video.
• Trump said, "I called up Theresa [May] and Angela [Merkel] and they agree with me," the source recalled.
• "And the other day, I saw you say you need a new arms deal," Trump told Putin, in the source's recollection. "So I guess that was just election talk. I'm glad to hear you weren't serious about it."
• Then Trump added: "I’ve already increased defense spending, modernized our nuclear weapons...We can do more, so if you want to do an arms race you’ll lose."

OK, this is a friendly leak intended to reassure us that Trump can be a tough guy. I'm delighted to get some reassurance.

 

Comments

[henry]

Yay, new thread!

It all seems to be misdirection and fake news.

[henry]

Or there is the NYT view of the meeting:

In this episode of Trump Bites, Donald Trump’s not-so-secret admiration for Vladimir Putin plays out in a teenager’s bedroom, where the fantasies of this forbidden romance come to life.

https://twitter.com/RoScarborough/status/1018841156514443264

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Why would anyone think Trump can't be a bad ass?

I read his books. I know he can.

Plus, there was that delightful opening salvo at the NATO breakfast, which I still enjoy watching.

[Ralph L]

Trump likes Putin so much, he's trying to bankrupt his government and rouse his neighbors.

[Captain Hate]

Appalled has gone full retard at Patterico. We must have kept him sane.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Short trip.

[narciso]

Just a day ending in y, I find this Kabul theatre from the durante times tiresome and it wasn't any better with Matthews Salisbury or bonner

[narciso]

That would be Cuba Vietnam and el salvador for those with the home game. An assault on a church in Managua was buried deep in the paper.

[narciso]

The notion that Putin after xi is the leading state supporter of Iran escapes them.

[Davod]

Headline on Instapundit:

"KEEP VOTING UNTIL THE POPULAR WILL PROPERLY REFLECTS ELITE SENTIMENT: New Brexit referendum ‘is only way to end deadlock.’"

Exactly. That's what they did in Ireland.

[jimmyk]

This is a pretty amusing thread, in an Emily Litella sort of way. At least this bimbo admitted her error.

https://twitter.com/emorwee/status/1018847556871258112

[jimmyk]

It has to do with WeWork's 'ban' of meat, and allusions to Hobby Lobby.

[narciso]

What are they some vegan nutbar outfit?

[Comanche Voter]

Well the media continues to wet its diapers (now there's soggy mess) over the thought that Putin will 'handle" the low IQ Trump. Some go so far as to say that Trump should not meet with Putin because he can't handle Putin.

Somehow I'm not worried. Trump can be a bully when he wants to be--and brash and thoughtless when he's distracted. Helsinki will be okay.

[Sidwhite]

Random OT Thoughts:

The Russians, like the entire world, knew Hillary would win. The hacking was not designed to “meddle” in an election as much as it was to weaken the future President Clinton.

Russians shared that portion of the “hacks” related to the Dem Primary – not to affect the election but to weaken the future President Clinton. Better tidbits were kept for a later day.

The “affair” was part of the cover for the undercover assignment to stop Trump.

The “path laid out in Andy’s office” was the Sr FBI plan to insure Hillary victory.

The “insurance” policy claim was to be filed in the event of the premature death of the Hillary presidency. You can’t file a claim until after the covered “loss”. Couldn't and didn't go into effect until November 10, 2016. The policy included a full investigation of a collusion hoax with Mueller assigned as the “adjuster”. The policy benefit was to make Trump lame and ineffective. (Someone at JOM awarded me the “Sid won the internet” title for the day I made the adjuster comment months ago.”

The insurance claim is in effect but apparently was poorly underwritten as Trump is far from Lame or ineffective.

[henry]

Oh MY, too funny.

https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1018592200920313858?s=12

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Remember the other day when we were talking about how to end abortion and I said that it was good that President Trump had 5 children, DOn had 4-5, and Ivanka had 3? (Eric and his wife just had a baby, too.)

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/natalia-mittelstadt/poll-41-say-families-3-or-more-children-ideal-34-2011

Up 7% from 2011.

[Extraneus]

Obama and Clinton were tough hombres who struck fear into the hearts of our adversaries.

(Click to enlarge.)

[Miss Marple the Deplorable]

Incredible footage of a rare White Moose has been captured in Sweden. There are only an estimated 100 of them left in the country!! pic.twitter.com/gMHAYcYFAh

— Animal Lovers Page (@animallovepage) July 16, 2018

Video at link.

[Beasts of England]

Snowflake Power Rangers!! lol, henry!

[Jane]

Here we go - starting with Putin.

[narciso]

I lost a lot of respect for banning but he is closer to the truth

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/the-wave/

[narciso]

Rocket surgery

https://mobile.twitter.com/Sandie882Sandie/status/1018837159745384448

[narciso]

John schindler still crazy.

[narciso]

Tony abbott, despite his caveats is an ok bloke, as opposed to upper class twit trumbull.

[Tom R]

Reposting from last thread.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nunes-mueller-indictment-tracks-house-intel-report

Essentially everything in the Mueller indictments last week was pretty much already revealed by Devin Nunes back in April.

[Jane]

Are you guys watching this?

I'm surprised by Putin. Told to watch his body language and his words - he seems very conciliatory and quite happy. I think Trump has made him feel like an equal (smart) and it seems to be going quite well.

[Jane]

Putin says he will look into the hacking, but they have to look at facts, and so far the facts have revealed nothing.

Certainly Mueller has no facts since he never examined the servers.

[henry]

Kane gets Golden Boot.

[James D.]

Narc @ 11:17

I especially like this comment from your link. I think it’s a great definition:

Is it Populism when you turn the key, the car does not start, and you swear you'll never buy another Oldsmobile or Rambler? American Populism is pronounced Practicality

[narciso]

And I pointed to surbers piece about meatheads film because the subjects landay and strobel were the purveyors of the narrative about Iraq day after day for about four years in mcclatchy.

[jimmyk]

What are they some vegan nutbar outfit?

They claim that eating meat is bad for the environment. Just more virtue signalling for their Manhattan neighbors.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/wework-takes-meat-off-the-menu-as-part-of-environmental-policy-drive/

[Another Bob]

I’m losing respect for Wretchard by the day.

He sits in Australia and I suspect is getting a poor view of events, too filtered by MSM partisanship and Trump-hatred.

Bannon is no guru and has his own axes to grind, but I’d trust his take over any swamp/MSM take.

[Jane]

Money illegally earned in Russia - $400million donated to Hillary's campaign.

Russia will investigate.

[henry]

CNBC @CNBC
1m

A reporter from the publication The Nation was forcibly removed from a press briefing between President Trump and Russian leader Putin on Monday, before the 2 leaders were set to take questions from the press. Treaty."cnb.cx/2urXwAt

[narciso]

Like Delavan Hillary's it guy who's final statement was not to click on anything and.go into the woods.

[narciso]

Putin is not a friend, but as a determined adversary you take him seriously neither France nor the UK nor Germany does that.

[Jane]

"A reporter from the publication The Nation was forcibly removed from a press briefing "

It got pretty amazing.

[Jane]

Trump demands the DNC server.

[derwill]

It is really too bad that Ocasio-Cortez woman will still be too young to run for president in 2020, because the Dems would so nominate her if they could. And Trump would so eviscerate her in about five minutes.

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$400 million donated to the Clinton campaign? Did we know this?

No wonder the Dems were acting all terrified of Trump meeting Putin. Explains Mueller's dog and pony show of the other day, as a desperate effort to get the summit called off.

[henry]

video of reporter getting tossed:

https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1018885073624621056

[Jane]

Putin brings up George Soros. This is getting amazing. He says we need the courts to make the decision.

[Captain Hate]

Dear God, I was enjoying that clip henry linked and now Slick's fat woman legs makes it difficult to keep lunch down. Any woman finding that slob attractive is mentally ill.

[Jane]

Putin wants access to the people making the allegations.

[Another Bob]

The Nation hands a credential to an activist. Activist acts like an activist and not a reporter. Gets tossed by Russians.

Attacks of Trump for not rescuing the non-reporter reporter incoming...

[rse]

MM-for you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5958807/Melania-Trump-wears-3-700-Gucci-jacket-dress-Helsinki.html

[Jane]

I'm really loving this - I hope I'm hearing the translation right.

[henry]

im sure you are as shocked as I am at the spin:

CNBC Now @CNBCnow
40s

BREAKING: Trump declines to denounce Putin over election meddling at summit, blames 'both countries'

[Jane]

Derwill the guy who donated the money was named Broward, and he failed to pay taxes on it.

Trump ends the presser saying that Strozk was a disgrace and we need to end the witchhunt.

[Jane]

WOW! WOW! WOW!

[Jane]

Putin said Mueller should contact him and he will look into it.

[Jane]

(the collusion)

Am I the only one here?

[henry]

and spin #2:

CNBC @CNBC
38s

Trump walks into a 'Russian trap' even before the Putin meeting started: Ex-US ambassador

[henry]

You may be alone watching the live feed.

[Jane]

Oh gawd. I tell you, I was convinced all the Mueller BS went on because the democrats are scared, and I'm thinking I'm right. But the press will do everything they can to spin it.

[henry]

This the Browder fellow> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder

[henry]

Brennan loses marbles over this conference:

https://twitter.com/irootsorg/status/1018888726020280320?s=12

[narciso]

Browder has the hedge fund manager whose account ant died in prison investigating pilfered acts. Oh and his grandfather was the communist presidential candidate for a time.

Ten whole trump tower kerfluffle in June 96 goes back to that matter, the pepperpott lawyer hired by baker and hostedler was a party to that.

[Jane]

Sounds like it Henry - and this is interesting:

In July 2017, Browder testified to the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee on Russia's alleged interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election through use of persons in Washington, D.C.

~~

I'd like to know what the testimony was.

[henry]

I'd like to know if he dated that Russian lawyer gal.

[narciso]

Yes that's the one, he apprenticed under Edmund sabra a shadowy banker who was the subject of Bryan burroughs first book.

[Jane]

I hope Putin has now changed the narrative for at least a few people.

[henry]

Browder sure looks tied into the whole Fusion GPS crowd

[narciso]

No, they are at odds, but she and akhmetshins were the ones who contracted fusion GPS, which was a partner Derrick associates which laundered Venezuelan regime
Cash

[Jane]

Neal going nuts saying how inappropriate Trump was to side with Putin. They wanted to see a forceful condemnation of Putin. I really hope Trump has some evidence to share.

[Sidwhite]

OT Part 2:

Oh, and There is zero evidence on the DNC “hack” as there is no chain of custody on the server and the DNC will not allow any defendant expert to examine it. It can’t be used in court. Probably true with the server of the presidential candidate etc. Hillary’s SOS emails were from way back before the campaign days, so I assume there is a Hillary for President server. No defendant will ever look inside that one either!

[henry]

Sid, it would be nice if a prosecutor looked at those servers.

[henry]

Sasse blames Trump.

https://twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1018890820743843840

[henry]

Heh:

Ryan Lizza @RyanLizza
2m

Everyone is numb and in shock. We can’t believe what we just witnessed, but for me it’s this simple: The President of the United States openly colluded with Putin to undermine our democracy.

[Jane]

Derwill,

Daddy posted this the other night - from a friend of a friend who is a high tech guy:

"The DNC was not hacked.The files were copied onsite to a memory stick, not drawn out over the internet. The metadata in the files shows the transfer rate to be too high to be done over a network. The files were copied by an insider.

[Jane]

Yeah all the press, even Fox is saying shit like that. I just hope that this means Trump is about to blow the whole thing open.

[Jane]

Wonder if Putin told Trump the info came from Seth Rich.

[Eye Doctor]

Seth Rich!

[Jane]

Henry, why would they be in shock? They've been saying that for 2 years.

[jimmyk]

he apprenticed under Edmund sabra a shadowy banker

Edmond Safra, the one who died in that fire set by his bodyguard/nurse. Not sure how shadowy he was, but he did start the Hermitage Fund in the 90s to invest in Russia. Was also a big philanthropist.

[henry]

Jane, history started yesterday with these mental midgets.

[Eye Doctor]

Tommy R

Tell us again what a good guy Mueller is.

[Extraneus]

$400M? Can't be. The whole presidential campaign was estimated at $2.4B.

[henry]

Ext, how much went to "activists" for things like Antifa? How much into Clintoon offshore bank accounts?

[Extraneus]

I guess the $2.4 only covers official spending, not laundering.

[Threadkiller]

It is really too bad that Ocasio-Cortez woman will still be too young to run for president in 2020,...

Dems don't have to worry about eligibility requirements. The Afterbirthers did their best to render one-third of the Founding Fathers safeguards useless.

Related:

Should the powerful be allowed to ignore or change the laws they don’t agree with? Of course not. But that issue is at the heart of a lawsuit filed in May by former Attorney General candidate Eric Early against the unelected, appointed California Attorney General Xavier Becerra, who is running to keep his office. The case was heard Friday morning in Sacramento Superior Court.

When Becerra filed his election paperwork with the California Secretary of State, he represented that he was qualified for the position of Attorney General. However, according to Early, Becerra had been unlicensed by the California State Bar Association for 26 years when Gov. Jerry Brown appointed him, and continues to be unqualified for the elected position based on California Election Code....

...Superior Court Judge Richard K. Sueyoshi, who tentatively dismissed the lawsuit Thursday prior to the Friday hearing, appeared to twist himself into a pretzel trying to read more into the statute. Judge Sueyoshi conflated “active status” in the California State Bar Association with “membership in the Bar,” which have two very different meanings; “inactive status” means the law license is suspended, voluntarily or involuntarily.

The Judge’s tentative ruling Thursday said state law “does not prohibit from serving as Attorney General a person who has voluntarily been placed on ‘inactive’ status with the State Bar at any point during the five-year period immediately preceding his or her election or appointment to the office.” This is what he was trying to “read into” the state statute.

In court Friday, Judge Sueyoshi talked of the “intent” of the statute. Plaintiff’s Attorney Brentford Ferreira argued that the statute is clear when it says, “admitted to the Supreme Court, ” and “admitted and licensed to practice law.”

“Inactive with the State Bar Association means ‘suspended,” Ferreira said. Attorney Ferreira is correct. The words in the statute are unambiguously clear when they say: admitted to practice before the Supreme Court of the state for a period of at least five years immediately preceding his election or appointment to such office.

https://canadafreepress.com/article/lawsuit-hearing-to-remove-xavier-becerra-as-california-attorney-general

The Law is a temporary setback for a Dem.

[Threadkiller]

Boatbuilder and Marlene, thank you.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/397172-fbi-agent-in-charge-of-election-meddling-task-force-leaves-position?__twitter_impression=true

This is interesting...

[Extraneus]

WILLIAMS: “We just read what you said on Twitter. Your reaction to what you’ve just seen?”
BRENNAN: “Well, Brian, I thought that there was nothing Donald Trump could say that would shock me, but I was wrong. I was just totally shocked at the performance of Donald Trump in Helsinki at a press conference with Vladimir Putin. I just found that it was outrageous. And even when the press — and thank goodness the press asked the right questions — even when the press gave him an opportunity to hold Russia accountable for anything, he chose to talk about Hillary Clinton, about his election, about servers. He criticized American citizens, Secretary Clinton and others as opposed to really taking advantage of a world stage, with all the world’s eyes upon them, to point out how unacceptable Russia’s behavior and interference in our election and the elections of other democratic countries around the globe is. But he just shirked those responsibilities. I cannot understand how the national security team can continue to abide by this and how Pompeo and Bolton and Kelly can continue in their jobs. This, I think, rises to the point of good American patriots resigning in objection to that performance by Donald Trump. I’m at a loss of words to describe just how outrageous his words, his statements, his behavior has been. And one can only conclude that he fears Vladimir Putin. And that one-on-one discussion, who knows what was discussed there. And how Mr. Putin now is the master puppeteer of Donald Trump, the person who is in our Oval Office. Outrageous.”
WILLIAMS: “I just saw a picture of Huntsman and Pompeo while the President was speaking, looking a bit stricken. But to your point about patriots, to your point about resignations, what do you think the practical impact, just say by the end of business today, tomorrow, will be?”
BRENNAN: “I don’t know. That’s why I said in my tweet Republican patriots all over the country, including in the Congress, where are you? When are you going to speak out and roundly condemn what Donald Trump is doing? And all of those good Americans who voted for Mr. Trump believing that he was going to protect this country, I think you have now his demonstrated unwillingness, maybe inability, to protect this country’s interests. I think this is a time for all Americans to rally and to say, ‘Mr. Trump, you are not doing what is necessary in order to keep this country strong and safe.’ And Mr. Putin must be now, with his team, just rejoicing in what has happened in Helsinki.”

[rich]

>>>Derwill the guy who donated the money was named Broward, and he failed to pay taxes on it.

Trump ends the presser saying that Strozk was a disgrace and we need to end the witchhunt.

Posted by: Jane | July 16, 2018 at 11:57 AM<<<

think the name is Bill Browder-he is the one who has pushed the Magnitsky sanctions (the US and UK). Browder is CEO of Hermitage Capital a London based hedge fund (closed now) that focused on Russia. He has been in a pissing contest with Russia for a while. Figured all that would end up as part of the story.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Anyone able to explain what ratio'd is?

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1018896044065730563

[Kevlar Kid]

"They claim that eating meat is bad for the environment."

The polluted air within their corporate offices and the polluted water in their trendy water coolers is 1000x worse than grass-fed beef or free-range yard bird.

For every yahoo in the world mismanaging their lands and water supplies while raising livestock is outnumbered significantly by stewards doing the exact opposite.

" a life of Subsistence-based agriculture for thee but not for me" is the Left's unspoken meme.

Nice economic model. Maybe we can bring back pandemic anemia, rickets, and tuberculosis too.

I know. How about a potato famine?

IHTFP.

[henry]

Brennan translated, dammit Iran isn't in control anymore.

[Extraneus]

If there's only one person who goes down over the election shenanigans, I pray that it's Brennan.

[rich]

i see that i am late ... as usual.

[rich]

>>>the one who died in that fire set by his bodyguard/nurse.<<<

maybe no so shadowy as crispy ...

[rse]

Oh. Joy. https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/07/ocasio-cortez-capitalism-will-not-always-exist-in-the-world/

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Need to start calling Ms Ocasio Cortez Miss South Carolina.

[Appalled]

Appalled has gone full retard at Patterico. We must have kept him sane.

I thought it was the other way around, myself. We're lost causes to each other, in any event.

[Threadkiller]

Apparently Trump is recording interviews with Hannity and Tucker right now.

[henry]

Reuters World @ReutersWorld
12m

U.S. Sen. Graham blasts Trump response on Russia election meddling

[Threadkiller]

We kept you retarded?

[henry]

i guess the 2 credits were in body language reading:

David Rutz @DavidRutz
3h

Oh good, Brian Williams is analyzing the "body language" of Putin and Trump on MSNBC during their remarks to reporters.

[Extraneus]

Will this hysteria sway anyone?

Pundits bashed Trump for treating Putin amicably during the press conference, with CNN's Anderson Cooper describing the conference as "disgraceful."

"You have been watching perhaps one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president at a summit in front of a Russian leader certainly than I've ever seen."

Meanwhile, Trump tweeted video of the full press conference:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-16/putin-admits-i-wanted-trump-win-full-highlights-historic-summit

[rse]

"With Trump now we have two issues regarding our security. First is competence. For a man who spends so much time in an alternative world, can he be trusted to assess a threat properly and respond appropriately? Both the inadequate response to the Puerto Rican crisis and the historic mismanagement of the border crisis suggest not. But then there is the much more challenging question – does the President actually want to protect America from foreign threats? Can we count on him to be there for us in a time of need? And on this one I think we have to admit we just aren’t sure. His response to Russian aggression raises questions frankly about where his ultimate loyalties lie. A true patriot would have mobilized both US institutions and those abroad to ensure Russia could never replicate the 2016 attack. Bur rather than doing this, the President has not only denied the attacks ever took place, but he has weakened the international and domestic institutions (NATO, EU, FBI, DHS) needed to challenge Russia in the coming years. He continued those denials today, in his disastrous joint press conference with President Putin. Given the opportunity to challenge Putin to stop his interference efforts in the US, the President incomprehensibly took a pass.

So here we are. It is a sad and dark time in America. It sure appears that we cannot count on President Trump to keep us safe. We all wish it were otherwise.

This is a topic well worth debating in the upcoming elections this fall."

just hit my email box from NDN. There is a level of hysteria across media about that press conference. I guess because so much is invested in people believing russia is why hillary lost.