I'm Living In An Alternate Universe. Or They Are.

The NY Times covers Mueller's ongoing "obstruction" investigation:

Mueller Examining Trump’s Tweets in Wide-Ranging Obstruction Inquiry

His tweets.

Do let me add - I assume that in the other universe I could find people rubbing their hands in glee that Trump will finally get busted for Tweeting. Ahh, sweet justice!

And under my sun (still yellow, and what I can see of the sky is blue) people are marveling that Mueller might actually base a report to Congress on Trump's Tweets. This is how we run mysterious collusion ops these days - Twitter?

I can't even decide if the source of this leak meant to make Mueller look good, or ridiculous.

Comments

[henry]

sure. chase the tweets. whatever dude. maybe check his eyeblinks during the debates for morse code. That should keep you busy through the '22 midterm elections.

[Eye Doctor]

Next will be an investigation of his bowel movements.

[henry]

Don Draper Retweeted
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What a long fall from "just wait you deplorable idiots, there will be proof of treasonous collusion with Russia" to "what if I told you that a man named Donald Trump uses Twitter and wait for it -- WAIT FOR IT -- we're going to claim that's a crime."

[Captain Hate]

They could probably replace Mueller with a defective AI to just chase after random things and not look like a homeless person in a suit.

[Miss Marple]

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/07/26/why-we-never-get-tired-of-winning-and-never-trumpers-never-get-tired-of-losing-n2503154

[Eye Doctor]

Tommy boy

Are you ready to throw in the towel?

[henry]

not look like a homeless person in a suit

he was just expressing his inner Columbo.

[Dave (in MA)]

76-babies-brent-cizek-new-york-times
OMG, how is she ever going to nurse all those babies?

[Miss Marple]

All men are #created #equal.
But some men are better than others...#dogooder #goodman #givingback pic.twitter.com/3X1U6Mtxfi

— The Real Mike Rowe (@mikeroweworks) July 26, 2018

Picture and a very nice story of a kid who helped a family in need.

[Miss Marple]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/26/facebook-on-pace-for-biggest-one-day-loss-in-value-for-any-company-sin.html

Twitter is apparently trying to match them.

[Miss Marple]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/07/25/opinions/michael-cohen-donald-trump-tape-strategy-zelizer/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

Hilarious. CNN has figured out that Trump might actually be smart, strategic thinking, and controlled in his business dealings.

It only took 3 years. LOL!

[ConFraud the US]

Nice Whack-a-mole waffling Maguire.

The fickleness is very profound

[clarice feldman]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5996417/Trump-shares-massive-fundraising-haul-endangered-Republicans-campaign-panics-blue-wave.html

[Miss Marple]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1022551370589589504.html

25-year FBI agent sent a note to this guy, which he ha copied word-for-word. Since I don't know the inner workings of the DOJ or the FBI, I don't know if this makes sense or not.

[daddy]

Re: this CNN reporter kerfuffle, Rush played audio of some Daily Caller Reporter hollering a question at President Obama with Obama refusing to take questions, and then he played some excellent audio takes of Media types at the time damning that Daily Caller reporter for having the gall to shout questions at the President, and concluding that they would never treat a White President so disrespectfully so the Daily Caller reporter had to be a racist. More hypocrisy on parade.

[Ralph L]

My brother used punch cards in a class at Chapel Hill and wouldn't go near a computer for 10 years. He now manages the data base for a huge German company whose name I can never remember.

[daddy]

Here's Rush's take on TM's linked New York Times story: They’ve Got Nothing! Mueller Looking at Trump’s Tweets

[Captain Hate]

Cock Curious regarded the MFM with undisguised contempt, which only made the self respect deprived dolts fluff him more.

[Jane]

Henry:

"JiB, I started on Data General (74)"

I worked at Data General from '78 until I think '82.

by "started" are you talking about equipment or something else?

[henry]

Jane, equipment. The college had a Data General mini computer. Manual register switches to boot up, load IPL card, then feed program deck, last in the data cards.

3 big improvements before I got to high school (driver's license set me free from hijacking by mom):

1. new card punch typed the keystrokes along the top. (much easier to debug, or put a dropped deck back in sequence)

2. tape feed (helpful on long programs)

3. infamous addition of a hard drive.

Still did all entry via card decks, but it was much easier to manage.

[Dave (in MA)]

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1022268760906969090

https://twitter.com/DaveinMA/status/1022561252135129098

[Kevlar Kid]

From the real former FBI agent re POTUS:

"37. I am a real supporter of President Trump’s policies, but see his leadership “style” as abysmal. "

Compared with ? The Rat? GWB? Clintoona? GHWB? Reagan? Carter? Ford? Nixon? Johnson? JFK? Ike? Harry? Comrade Roosevelt?

i don't get it.

we live in unusual times and have elected the first entrepreneur in our history since the members of the planter class of the old south.

gimme a break.

[Jane]

No one had a computer in my life until law School - and that was the '80's. One guy had a lap top. We were all amazed. No one else had anything. I had to hire someone to type my papers.

I was the first lawyer that I knew to ever have their own computer on their desk. I think that was probably early '90's.

How things change.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Ah, minicomputers!! Computer Automation, General Automation, Data General, DEC, Wang, Xerox for processors. All on the ash heap of history now. They were some of our original customers and the margins at the time were wonderful.

30% no problem and booming sales. Technology has its ebbs and flows, but the hardware has been ignored in favor of the software. Then, an iPhone has as much computing power and more apps than a mainframe back in the day.

HAL, poke Mikey and order me a ham sandwich. Post stupid cat videos on my Facebook page.

The technology has improved but the users not so much.

[Thomas Collins]

Mueller's "investigation" is really a fishing expedition for the Dems to have talking points for impeaching Trump if Dems take over the House. Part of the obstruction article of impeachment would be Trump's public statements on social media and elsewhere. Mueller's is not a serious investigation, although it will have serious negative consequences for the US even if it doesn't succeed in the political goal of reversing the 2016 election results (and by reversing, I mean knocking Pence out also).

Looked at in that context, Mueller investigating tweets makes perfect sense. Team Mueller is using the kitchen sink approach in developing materials for a Dem House impeachment proceeding.

[daddy]

Everything you wanted to know about Soybeans*

*but were afraid to ask

Apologies in advance for linking to a WaPo story:(

[Old Lurker]

Thank you, Jeff Sessions:

TC "Looked at in that context, Mueller investigating tweets makes perfect sense. Team Mueller is using the kitchen sink approach in developing materials for a Dem House impeachment proceeding."

[henry]

daddy, in case you were wondering, the soy plants flower at the base of the branches off the stems. Little purple flowers. (the picture missed a key feature of ag... need bees to fertilize those flowers or no beans).

as far as where the soy is... I have 35 acres of it in my back yard this year.

[henry]

I kid... the beans self pollinate. no bees.

[Janet]

((I was the first lawyer that I knew to ever have their own computer on their desk. I think that was probably early '90's.))

That reminds me of our discussions about Obama going to Bali with his computer & writing Dreams.

"In early 1993, Obama returns to Indonesia, the land of his childhood. And there he reenacts a common artistic ritual, albeit one that remains largely an unknown part of his biography, until now: He sequesters himself in a rental cottage on the crescent of Bali’s Sanur Beach, where for a month he is a lone figure pacing on the white sand and hammering on his laptop, as unknown as he will ever be."

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/11/the-road-to-bali.html

How common were laptop computers in 1993?

Broke, student loan debt & he heads off to Bali for a month with his computer. How did he buy the ticket & rent the cottage?

Michelle goes with him or she stays home depending which account you read.

[GUS]

So actual TEXT MESSAGES talking about INSURANCE POLICIES and FUCK TRUMP etc etc etc. WE'LL STOP HIM. NOT BIAS.

But TRUMPS saying things on TWITTER for all to see.

CONSPIRACY. To do what???? To OBSTRUCT what??
To violate WHAT LAW???

[Old Lurker]

My finance and business schooling was all done with sliderules and very well developed "mental math" when debating case studies on one's feet.

Later, when Visicalc came along, then Lotus 123, then Excel...the implied precision they made so simple regarding wide ranging business discussions and strategy was, looking back, probably not all positive.

[henry]

Janet, I remember having a laptop in the late 80s (NEC Multispeed, which I still have). No hard drive on that one. they became more common by the early 90s, but were not cheap.

[Kevlar Kid]

Thanks for sharing Dave.

I did some carpet bombing on that snowflake link.

:D

[sbwaters]

IBM 1620, IBM 1130, IBM 360-50 to 360-195, PDP-8, PDP-11, IBM APL laptop (really), various IBM PCs, Osborne, Apple 2E, Lisa, Macintosh.

Still have tons of magazines and docs in the basement, along with PDP paper tape, IBM magnetic tape, and punch cards.

Languages? Oh my goodness!

[Janet]

Yeah, henry. My husband had a portable one (about the size of a VW bug with a handle on it) in the late 80s.
I can't imagine him lugging that thing down to a sandy beach to write.

[daddy]

I have 35 acres of it in my back yard this year.

Henry,

This 9th Grader got an A+ on his experiment What is the effect of caffeine on the growth of soybeans?

I would consider giving you an A+ for your experiment on What is the effect of Beer on the growth of soybeans?

[GUS]

Henry sells homemade SOYBEAN HOOOOOCH out of his Yurt.

FACT!

[Kevlar Kid]

in 1981 the first minicomputer we had was a commodore 4K with a cassette extension for saving our code.

equipment test data sets had to be run on the "campus main frame." By the end of my year-long masters program there were 3 10 foot high columns of computer printout paper in our shop warehouse.

we had to wear industrial ear protection to guard against ear damage from the "dot matrix" printers we were running.

glory days. :D

[Kevlar Kid]

What is the effect of soy on the breast size of males over the age of 40?

[Kevlar Kid]

a yurt..... perfect for firin' them .50 cals in all directions?

[Pinandpuller]

OK the plastic straw ban in SF is inconvenient and a little funny but a lady in NYC thinks some people's so called dignity in buying beer and cigarettes is more important than brown people's lives:

Democrats want bulletproof Plexiglass BAN, Represents an "Indignity" to Minorities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKagWN7RCKM&t=0s&list=LLoKNmO5BAl2Qhq7EZKNpGlA&index=3

[Miss Marple]

Thomas Collins, there is NO mechanism for removing Pence unless they impeach him and remove him from office as well.

[Kevlar Kid]

first time i heard one of them "egg" percussion shakers it reminded me of the sound soybeans make as they're augured up into the combines hopper.

the music of MUNNY, Baby!!!

[PD]

I started out on Commodore CBM/PET in the late 1970's. Someone had donated 3 to our school.

[Pinandpuller]

NO

Was the Nia Wilson stabbing white supremacy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpk9cWHo1ZQ&index=2&list=LLoKNmO5BAl2Qhq7EZKNpGlA&t=328s&has_verified=1

[Miss Marple]

Attention NeverTrumpers:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-critics-among-the-least-popular-senators-in-the-country

[clarice feldman]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/chairman-nunes-redacted-portions-of-carter-page-fisa-docs-even-worse-than-what-the-american-people-can-see-today/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=thegatewaypundit.com&utm_term=68707&utm_content=1

[Miss Marple]

https://www.thewrap.com/star-wars-director-rian-johnson-says-deleting-20000-after-james-gunn-firing-was-a-why-not-move/

[Extraneus]

I had one of these in the Studio 54 era.

Wrote an APL program that generated chord progressions based on statements from a music theory book such as "The ii chord usually leads to the V7, but sometimes to the iii7 and occasionally to the vii°."

(Click to enlarge.)

[Miss Marple]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-27/donald-trump-may-be-prepared-to-strike-iran-sources-say/10037728

As usual, unnamed.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

There is no way in hell Obama had a computer of ANY sort that he could take down to the beach. Did any computer of that age have a battery pack in them? Not that I know of. We had a Compuserve 'portable' that weighed about 10 lbs and had a green screen 5? 7 inch screen with 5 1/4 inch floppies. That was early 90s tech and it damn sure didn't have a battery back up in it. You HAD to plug it in. So unless he had a hella long extension cord, no way... if he did use an extension cord, WTF did he not get a rogue wave and spare us all the BS? ZZZZZZZT.

[PD]

I stopped posting/checking FB about 1 month ago. The reaction was like a child's tantrum.

Week 1: A few notifications, but nothing out of the ordinary.

Week 2: Plenty of notifications. Did you see what so-n-so posted.

Week 3: Plenty of notifications. Did you see what so-n-so posted. How about these new 25 friends?

Week 4: Started sending me emails, more notifications, and text messages. Disabled all 3 modes.

Week 5: Not a peep, took it's toys and went home.

LinkedIn seems to be on a similar path...

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

That looks like mine, ext... no battery that I remember..

[Jane]

Obama graduated from law school 2 years after me - so that's 1989. I suspect they were a bit more common. I didn't have a laptop tho. That was years later.

[Pinandpuller]

Bitch I wish ANTIFA would

#occupyicepdx
Dominos driver takes no shit from Danielle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCc1JNpMa1M&t=0s&index=2&list=LLoKNmO5BAl2Qhq7EZKNpGlA

[PD]

We got an IBM Stinkpad in 1993 that had a battery and was not big. It was when I was working developing wireless messaging software called WINBEEP!

[Dave (in MA)]

Extraneus, I used to take one of these home from work once in a while in those days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Portable We had 1200Baud dial-up and it would take several minutes to send or receive a file that was a few dozen K over ftp or tftp. My wife used to complain that the dial-up noise was scary.

[Thomas Collins]

Sure there is, MM. Besides the impeachment and conviction process, there is the goal of manipulating public opinion to a "2016 election is hopelessly corrupt" meme that reaches a tipping point that forces "respectable" GOPers to force a double resignation. Implausible? Not as implausible as Rosenstein and Flynn and Mueller et al being a part of a 4D chess plan. At the very least, the scheme if it succeeds would neuter Pence so that his POTUSey would involve keeping the bed warm for Liz Warren.

My main point is that it is pointless to evaluate Team Mueller's actions in the context of a traditional criminal investigation. A banana republic one, perhaps.

[Miss Marple]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?448971-1/president-trump-delivers-remarks-illinois-trade-tariffs-policy

He's at US Steel.

[daddy]

Loving Trump's speech to the Steelworkers in Illinois. He just described as "beautiful" two Blast Furnaces coming back on line. Big applause from a good crowd of Steelworkers.

[Kevlar Kid]

FWIW ;) Karl Rove is predicting doom for the GOP at mid-terms:

""Mr. Sabato and his colleagues now rate 34 Republican-held seats as 'toss-ups.' Four GOP seats ‘lean Democratic,’ two are ‘likely Democratic,’ and one is ‘safe Democratic.’ Only two Democrat-held seats are labeled toss-ups,’ though Mr. Sabato calls one open seat ‘safe Republican.’ If Democrats win the seats tilting their way and just over half of the toss-up races, they’ll take control of the House," Rove wrote in The Wall Street Journal."

Read Newsmax (last): Karl Rove: Election Forecasts 'Sobering' for GOP | Newsmax.com

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

THAT's the one Dave! I said compuserve but it was Compaq later bought by IBM IIRC. Damn thing was clunky as hell to lug around.

[Pinandpuller]

Arabs Have Black Slaves - Today
There is no Arab Apartheid Week on American campuses, but there should be. Slavery, in its most barbaric form, still exists in the Arab world and there is no Exodus in sight either. A shocking article for Passover.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/13067

[Miss Marple]

I wish I had thought to link it when the President of US Steel came up on stage and praised him to the skies.

[Dave (in MA)]

28 lbs

[Old Lurker]

Pence was clearly part of the Trump Criminal Conspiracy to steal the election. We all know from L&O that all gang members are equally guilty when one is.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

IIRC that compaq cost $7K or so. Our RS Trash 80 was around $10k and had one of those daisy wheel printers... yep that would deafen you if you were in the same room.

[Thomas Collins]

Wow. Medieval era computer talk. Here is the computer I used in the medieval era. https://www.oldcomputr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/apple_iie.jpg

[Miss Marple]

President Trump: "If you don't have a steel industry, you don't have a country."

Also, he's needling the press and the crowd is with him.

[Old Lurker]

Now all they will have to do is elect Hillary to be Speaker, pull the trigger on Trump the Pence, then poof...we all go to Hell.

[Kevlar Kid]

My first personally owned "hard drive" desk top was a Dutch IBM knock-off (Amstrad). the drive sounded like a tank. 40MB. CPU/monitors discrete component. all color. Laser printer... 1993. Slow as chit by today's standards but faster than the 80s generation desktops populating the campus.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Was that how much it weighed? I remember being able to tote it around albeit clunkily, but then again I was in my 20s so what weighs 14 lbs now feels like it is 30 lbs. LOL

[Threadkiller]

I got by with a Compaq Portable 486c.

[Threadkiller]

I hope Trump brings lead smelting back to the US.

[Jim Eagle]

henry,

Going through my notes from 1965, when I graduated Engineering, it seems that DENDRAL was the first AI language. I had forgotten that, since all I had beside my "sllp-stick" was one of these beauty's.

An Olivetti:)

[Kevlar Kid]

Wondering if revitalizing US steel production is a defense preparedness concern for this President?

To what degree is the President interested in making inroads on Red China's leading steel export position?

Not all steel is created equal. Will our edge be in producing the highest quality for our defense industries?

How will coal export programs to top global steel producers be affected by greater US production?

Trump is playing 4D chess in the global competition. No doubt in my mind.

[Threadkiller]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/zoo-accused-of-painting-donkeys-to-look-like-zebras/

TJ hardest hit.

[Janet]

((I used to take one of these home from work once in a while in those days.))

Did you take it to the beach?...or on an exotic foreign vacation trip?
Hah! I think that is what my husband had too. 28lbs sounds right.

[Kevlar Kid]

I have a stack of my 5 previous laptops dating back to 2004.

Each model weighs a ton compared to this one i've owned for 2 years.

i guess the hamsters weighed more back then. :D

[Pinandpuller]

I'm thinking K-K-Karl W Rove is push polling for Democrats and NeverTrumpers.

[Extraneus]

Yeah the IBM "Portable" PC in my pic weighed 30 lbs, cost over $4K new and, uh, had no battery. Maybe a car battery could have powered it.

[Momto2]

KK - Did Rove have his little whiteboard out, too?

[Kevlar Kid]

"Slavery, in its most barbaric form, still exists in the Arab world and there is no Exodus in sight either."

Here in Zerkeley when the topic turns to Arab slavery, the Flakes opine-- almost in unison, like a headline of Google search results--- "THAT's their COLLTURE. Who are we to say what they can and cannot do in their OWN COLLTURES. That would be racist."

Shirley.

If they deem necessary to fling more turdelini to a rationale expert on slavery and racism, then they say "It's not practiced on an industrial scale like it was in the US."

IHTFP.

[Kevlar Kid]

Mom-- he carries it around like a yoga mat :D

[Pinandpuller]

Now all they will have to do is elect Hillary to be Speaker, pull the trigger on Trump the Pence, then poof...we all go to Hell.

Posted by: Old Lurker | July 26, 2018 at 04:35 PM

She did get three million more votes than Trump, Pelosi and Ryan.

There used to be a conspiracy theory along those lines to make David Rockefeller president. I guess it didn't work out.

[Pinandpuller]

The easy explanation, Kev, is that Arabs are white people.

[henry]

Janet, those Compaq luggables were early to mid 80s. Lugged a couple for work in those days. By 88 or so you could get an actual laptop. e.g. my NEC had a battery, could run a couple hours w/o a plug. That was late 80s. When was Obama "writing" his book? Early 90s?

[lurkersusie]

Pathetic

REVEALED: NYT Targets Kavanaugh’s Wife, Looking For ‘Abortion,’ ‘Gun,’ ‘Gay,’ ‘Federalist’ Emails

https://ntknetwork.com/revealed-nyt-targets-kavanaughs-wife-looking-for-abortion-gun-gay-federalist-emails/

[Kevlar Kid]

With Hillary's and the DNC's rotting political corpses stinking up the joint, who shows up at the mid-terms to elevate the candidates against Republican opposition?

What if: POTUS decides to SKYPE or WEBEX his way into congressional campaigns to visibly endorse in real time each of our candidates?

Conversely, who would give a shite if Tom Perez or Diane Feinstein or Bella Pelosi showed up for their team?

EDGE: Deplorables.

[henry]

Says here released in '86. https://sites.google.com/site/thenecmultispeedinformatorium/home

[Extraneus]

The Dems would be lucky to get Kavanaugh. If he fails and the R's pick up a few seats in the Senate, Trump will nominate Amy Barrett.

[Momto2]

Every time I upgrade to a new laptop, I am amazed that it is so much lighter than my previous model. And I remember during grad school lugging boxes of punch cards with my research to the "computer building" on campus.

[Kevlar Kid]

I have to say that given recent progress (last 90 days) it is easier and easier to make ProgTardo heads explode by mere citation of Trump's achievements.

Not so sure if CNN or PMSNBC, among others, will have much more than the Mueller investigation to impugn the Republican juggernaut.

Is the money so good for Never Trumpers, or should i say the promise of money so good, that they cannot see the writings on the wall?

[Captain Hate]

Rove combined with Newsmax produces the sluttiest ugly whores capable of giving the world ED.

[Dave (in MA)]

Janet | July 26, 2018 at 04:45 PM,

No, since it needed to be next to a phone jack, my kitchen was the only sensible place at the time.

[henry]

At this point, who else would pay the Never Trumpers? Would you shop at a Walmart where one of them was the greeter? They are all in whether they can see the writing or not.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Back around 1984 we hired this guy and he had a Commodore. I used to laugh at him because it took him forever to do anything. He was basically a drone.

I would be out in the lab formulating and testing and he would write report using one of those crapola printers that said basically nothing anyway. I had no use for him and later on he screwed management and I ended up having to clean up the mess.

I should have applied that knowledge more effectively over the years. A lot of managers are drones and knob polishers who rely upon the hard work of others. Some of them rise quite high, which is where I found my issues in hiring. Great reputation, top engineer, etc, but then no one said anything about the alcoholism or the womanizing or the sheer incompetence.

We used slide rules and calculators were a godsend. Then we got. Xerox word processor and suddenly were were the avant garde in our niche. (c 1981). then came the guy with the Commodore and then the Apples and then, finally, the PC.

I always faulted Apple because they had a great little program called McDraw which was tremendously useful in doing site layouts and machine specs (connect hose A to nozzle A or wire 7 to terminal 4 or such). They changed over and dropped the software and it took me years stop being pissed off at them. Even today all of the expensive CAD still is less intuitive and simple to use than McDraw.

[Jim Eagle]

In case your computer skills, learned at another age, result in cash versus credit, there may be a boat in your future:

https://www.boatinternational.com/yacht-market-intelligence/brokerage-sales-news/most-expensive-yachts-for-sale-right-now--29757/frame-55?view_all=true

[Beasts of England]

How 'bout a little amplifier porn on this fine Thursday afternoon? And it's for sale in Pin's neighborhood. He can go grab it and I'll pay him back. I'm good for it... 😜

https://youtu.be/AdUktzdgGpI