Just Don't Call It 'Fake News'

In the course of relentlessly not covering the Bruce Ohr non-story Katie Benner of the flailing NY Times swerves into creative fiction (my emphasis):

Ms. Ohr’s contract work for Fusion GPS on matters related to Russia has prompted an unsubstantiated theory that the origins of the special counsel’s investigation are tainted. And emails that the Justice Department shared with Congress showing that in 2016 Mr. Ohr was in contact with Mr. Steele and with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, have only added momentum to that theory.

Republicans in Congress say those emails suggest that Mr. Steele and Fusion GPS, which was hired to dig up dirt on Mr. Trump by a wealthy Republican donor and later by Hillary Clinton’s campaign, worked inappropriately with the F.B.I. and the Justice Department.

They have also argued that the government inappropriately used the dossier, paid for in part by the Democrats, to apply for a warrant to wiretap Carter Page, a former Trump campaign official.

Paid for "in part" by the Democrats?!? Not even the Times has been reporting that - here is Kenneth Vogel from Oct 25, 2017:

The Trump Dossier: What We Know and Who Paid for It

...

Who paid for it?

During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon — which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump’s rival for the party’s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

After Mr. Trump secured the nomination, Fusion GPS was hired on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie, to compile research about Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates — including possible connections with Russia. It was at that point that Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele, who has deep sourcing in Russia, to gather information.

The WaPo has a similar timeline showing that Steele was hired after the Democrats picked up the Fusion-GPS ball.

The timing and funding of the Steele dossier is not controversial. How can the Times be mis-reporting this at this late date?

Right. Why ask why?

Comments

[henry]

How about ersatz? Sound more urban that way.

[Dave (in MA)]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/2018/08/airport_mass_shooter_esteban_santiago_sentenced_to_five_life_terms_and_120

It'd be interesting if alleged white collar criminal Manafort gets more jail time than a mass shooter.

[Extraneus]

I take it that's Don Tommaso in the Patriots jersey?

[clarice feldman]

Read just yesterday that the Free Beacon was using Steele until January 2017. Still, she's off on the facts.

[Kevlar Kid]

From the old thread----> Pin: i got autocuked on "genteel".... goy vey!

[Kevlar Kid]

thanks GUS...

i'm certain when i hit WI the meetup will be momentus.

these last two days were a signal to me that healing has finally begun to take hold. being social and sociable have eluded me for at least the last 5 years. this last round from 2017 surgery was a doozy--- just coming out from under that shadow.

hittin on all 8 finally.

hope your hard work is payin off, Brother. hang tough.

Kev

[sbwaters]

Hang on. I’ll be caught up in about two threads.

[Kevlar Kid]

did Eye Doctor answer re the "source" of his "LONG".... interesting dot connecting to say the least....and as many as it connects, i thought it all too brief. but that's just me (BTJM).

[Kevlar Kid]

IHTFP BTJM. :D

[Thomas Collins]

Where am I in a Pats jersey, Extraneus?

[Dave (in MA)]

Sturbridge. The 3 piece suit was in the wash that day.

[lurkersusie]

Three people have been arrested in connection to the synthetic marijuana, according to a report from WABC in New York which also ups the number of the afflicted to 95:

3 arrests after 95 overdose on synthetic marijuana at Connecticut park

Three people have been arrested after a rash of overdoses blamed on a suspected bad batch of synthetic marijuana sickened nearly 100 people in New Haven, Connecticut.

New Haven Police Chief Anthony Campbell told WTNH that an additional 19 people overdosed in the city on Thursday, bringing the total to 95 overdoses in the past two days.

The victims started falling ill Wednesday morning, mostly on the New Haven Green near Yale University.

“Do not come down to the Green and purchase this K2,” Campbell said. “It is taking people out very quickly, people having respiratory failure. Don’t put your life in harm.”

No deaths have been reported, and officials said most patients have been discharged.

“We literally had people running around the Green providing treatment,” said Rick Fontana, the city’s emergency operations director.

Yale-New Haven Hospital Dr. Kathryn Hawk said some patients tested positive for the powerful opioid fentanyl, but it appears most of the overdoses were caused by a potent batch of straight “K2” synthetic marijuana.

[Thomas Collins]

Aha! I didn't know that old pic had been reposted. Thanks for the clarification, Dave (in MA).

[Miss Marple]

U.S. Steel to invest $750 million to revitalize flagship Gary plant in wake of Trump tariffs https://t.co/naN8HzGeGB

— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) August 17, 2018

This will revitalize Gary and change the whole northwestern corner of Indiana.

It will also make Chicago look lame.

[Pinandpuller]

Kev

Well, I know you and I often try to write in accents but I can't pass up a Seinfeld reference.

[Frau Steingehirn]

Think Progress is beyond "fake news."

A Georgia election board proposed shutting down seven of the nine polling locations in an overwhelmingly black rural county. It’s the sort of blatantly illegal idea that would have been swiftly dismissed by federal courts in an age when an openly racist president was not appointing judges to the federal bench.

Nevertheless, there is a very real risk this plot could succeed if Judge Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed to the Supreme Court.
...
Meanwhile, nearly a quarter of Randolph County residents do not own cars, meaning that many of these voters could have to walk more than 3 hours to get to a polling place. Even voters with car could have to drive 10 to 20 minutes to reach a polling place under the board’s proposal.
....
Black voters may soon need to go to extraordinary lengths to cast a ballot, while white voters will be able to just stroll into a nearby polling place and vote without much effort.

A pox on those who willfully tell such lies.
(Intentionally no link provided.)

[Dave (in MA)]

Where I work there's an intranet bulletin board with various discussion topics.

Someone complained today that they keep finding wet floors and counter tops around the rest room sinks. There is no way in hell I'm going to bring up one of the causes for this, one that happens 5 times a day.

[Miss Marple]

Dividend Master
‏ @DividendMaster
9m9 minutes ago

U.S. HUD Files Housing Discrimination Complaint Against Facebook

HUD alleges Facebook allowed landlords and home sellers to use its advertising platform to engage in housing discrimination.

============================

HAHAHA!

[Extraneus]

Here, Don?

[Pinandpuller]

Rhetorical Question of the Day:

Why is CNN so eager to Doxx Manafort jurors before a verdict is reached?

[Dave (in MA)]

Can that be viewed by Zuck-Free folks?

[matt - deplore me if you must]

For daddy and our other archaeology buffs. The stern of the USS Abner Read, a WW II Navy destroyer, has been discovered off of Kiska Island.

It is believed that the Abner Read came into contact with a Japanese mine during the Aleutian Campaign as it was patrolling off the island of Kiska. The aft 70' of the ship was blown off and sunk with great loss of life, but through amazing seamanship and skill, the ship was saved, only to be destroyed by a kamikaze during the battle of Leyte Gulf.

[Eye Doctor]

KK

The information is out there at numerous outlets. Just start googling and you can gauge the veracity for yourself.

[sbwaters]

I’m confuzzled as to who is whom in Pix 1 and 2.

Please do a left-to right ID for each.

Thnx! :-)

[Catsmeat]

Happy afternoon--now to start the vain enterprise of catching up....out to an open house and then dinner with friends so a truly vain enterprise...but an interesting day, yes?

[henry]

Dave, yes. The pic can be seen by Zuck free folks, although I haven't looked for Zuck related infection from clicking the link.

[Frau Fragezeichen]

sbw - the CA affair or the MA one? Both?

[Dave (in MA)]

I'd be concerned if Sbw can't ID the MA people...

[Extraneus]

I delete cookies after any accidental visit there. Yet, even if I never visit there I find a facebook cookie whenever I check.

[Thomas Collins]

That's me, Extraneus!

[henry]

SBW doesn't have to testify to a Congressional Committee anytime soon? Just checking.

[Kevlar Kid]

Eye Doctor: much appreciated. -Kev

[lyle]

I can ID caro! 😬

[Kevlar Kid]

sbw:

first pic had the following "round the horn" labeling (might've left off MT...sorry bud!)

Mrs MT, CH, elliot (around the head of the table down the right to) Man Tran

in Pic 2 CH is missing (heez taking the pic) and the red hat at the once vacant top right corner is that KK character in a red hat.

Kev

[Extraneus]

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

[Frau Fragezeichen]

Catsmeat -
If you have not yet had a chance, treat yourself to the delights of

Academic time travel...the quest for the bishop's bird stump

Connie Willis at her best with "To Say Nothing of the Dog."
https://www.overdrive.com/media/285784/to-say-nothing-of-the-dog

[Kevlar Kid]

oh! the other Pic 1 and Pic 2? sowwy, sbw. my presumptuous bad. -Kev

[daddy]

Katie Benner of the flailing NY Times swerves into creative fiction

Wonder if that'll teach this Times reporter to not write any stories without first sleeping with Government sources?

[Jim Eagle]

Boy, do I know that green in New Haven. Up the street from our hotel we always stayed at when Frederick went to Yale for testing and summer camp.

Henry and Catsmeat know it. Nothing but bums, homeless, and crazie people around there. At Frederick's Yale camp it was out of bounds. Only areas in-bounds were north and west and east of the campus like the Shops.

Not surprising in the least that it happened there.

[Jim Eagle]

...not west only north and east.

[Kevlar Kid]

Interesting. What say tech hombres and mu-harrises?

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2150743/antivirus-is-dead-says-maker-of-norton-antivirus.html

[sbwaters]

Kev, yours is what I needed. I can ID the people at Jane’s.

In fact it was sweet to see the picture again.

[sbwaters]

I want to thank Elliott and Mrs. MT for bringing down our average age. I know I don’t help.

[clarice feldman]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/16/weird-and-sketchy-federal-behavior-surrounds-new-mexico-terror-training-compound/

[Extraneus]

Paul Manafort Is Being Held in Tiny Prison Cell with No Reading Material or TV During Trial

Paul Manafort was Donald Trump’s campaign manager for two months. Now he must be punished.

The US government is holding Paul Manafort in a tiny prison cell during his trial with no reading material and no television.

Paul Manafort faces 305 years in prison for tax evasion charges — a crime that typically has an average sentence of 1.5 years.

If he was an illegal alien Democrats would be outraged.

[Frau Fragezeichen]

Dave (in MA) - sbw?
I don't know how much alcohol had been consumed before the picture was taken. da

...and it' been a few years. Short term memory goes first, right?

[Extraneus]

So is that SB 2nd from left? Who's up top, far right and 2nd from right?

link

[lurkersusie]

Did Rosenstein lie under oath?

@Gingrich_of_PA
·
14h
Just received this story from a source with a note saying, “Rod called a very private internal meeting on this two days ago to discuss his exposure and previous sworn testimony.”
Bruch Ohr was deeply tied to the Clinton campaign while inside the FBI, writes @KimStrassel
What Was Bruce Ohr Doing?
wsj.com
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-was-bruce-ohr-doing-1534462447?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/Kn9dn8hs7R">https://t.co/Kn9dn8hs7R">https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-was-bruce-ohr-doing-1534462447?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/Kn9dn8hs7R

JohnWickofPolitics
@Gingrich_of_PA
On Tuesday, DOJ asked the WH “for a little time” to respond to breaking Bruce Ohr revelations (Trump was not amused) A rare overture was made from RR to Nunes & Grassley for an idea what all they have so they can “better prepare to address upcoming concerns.” Which is...hilarious

[Frau Fragezeichen]

Ext - sounds like the perfect cell for Mueller when he is held before, during and after trial.

[Extraneus]

I believe Rocco has copped to having once been an offensive lineman, so I'm guessing he's probably not top or 2nd from right.

[Captain Hate]

Am I the only person apoplectic that the Manafort jury hasn't reached a verdict?

[Dave (in MA)]

Ext...
Yes
daddy
Rocco
boatbuilder

[Marlene]

Good afternoon! I'm cracking up listening to Howie Carr's "chump line." A caller asks "do you think Omarosa would be still be alive if she worked for the Clintons?"

[Kevlar Kid]

305 years based on how many counts? the prosecution must be hoping something sticks.

on the word of an embezzler?

heaven help us.

[Frau Fragezeichen]

daddy was there...
hint, hint

[henry]

Kev, that "anti-virus is dead" article has a dramatic title, but is on target. Current exploits have more to do with exotic tracking cookies and web connect related info theft behind the scenes. There are products that address some of this. AdBlock type products are somewhat prophylactic in blocking malignant adware, until you agree to the GDPR cookies prompt which lets all the tracking in through the front door. There are products which chase and clear these persistent trackers... but they lag the malware tech. Password / authorization managers help, but the best technique available there has been compromised (architecture issues... really sucks), and no good replacement in sight.

It's dangerous out there.

[Dave (in MA)]

She did work for the Clintons, at least indirectly while she was working for Gore.

[Extraneus]

Should have guessed daddy, since he's described his hairline and I remember his posts from that week of hanging with Caro and Jane.

[Frau Fragezeichen]

Which algore chakra did Omarosa work on, Dave?

[Dave (in MA)]

I'll defer to others' Omarosa expertise, since I think the first time I ever heard of her was when she got fired last year.

[Kevlar Kid]

for the "Guitar Retread" blog :D

my hands and fingers are strong enough to play this rythm (the man in the middle's part from the video: MAGNESIUM, baby!

this is my goto FREITAG TUNE!

Heart of Stone_Dave Stewart at Daryl's House

still caint sing for dukie outside the key of D. lodge songs no problem. contempo--- nil dil.

:D

[Catsmeat]

daddy, re Murder on the Orient Express, I could tell you any one of the characters did it and you could work up a good case! Christie magic, of course.

Frau--thanks and have it at the ready--if it is really like Confederacy of Dunces it will be wonderful, plus Oxford...Do you like Gilbert Fen?

Dave, okay, I don't get the sinks problem. Is it too indelicate given ladies or can we/I find out? Where's CH when one needs him?

[DebinGA]

Is the impish expression guy in back holding a bottle daddy?

[Dave (in MA)]

There's a certain demographic group whose members are required to clean themselves 5 times a day before facing a certain geographic location.

[Kevlar Kid]

henry--- that's what worries me. we anticipate network growth from a starting point of 3500 on one network, 20,000 on an older one... with top end in six years near 80K to 100K. can't imagine what our exposure is going to be, what we're setting people up to encounter, and how much we'll be paying for 24/7 security that can morph with the threats.

:D how much do you cost? :D

-Kev

[Catsmeat]

Off to a party, but offhand, are any of you good at dancing? I mean really good?

[Catsmeat]

will check back post party...

[Kevlar Kid]

CH: my outrage over Manafort is under wraps i guess. the savaging of due process, the Bill of Rights in general, and the Presidency have me on a low-grade simmer.

i'm under doctors orders to recallibrate my circulatory system over "the next 10 years" (that was in 2014 so look out :D)

what Manafort allegedly did ten years ago, in my book pales in comparison to what's going down in terrorist training camps a la the New Mexico jihadi and WORSE. they operate with impunity and if caught, they walk.

IHTFP. but breathing my way through. (it would be better if i could drink beer :D j/k)

how much longer in the Cruz, 'mano?

[Kevlar Kid]

what kind, Catsmeat? salsa? merengue? cha cha? French rock? (oy!my first wife taught me that stuff)

Tribal? I'm yer huckleberry :D

[Jim Eagle]

catsmeat,

I have a degree in ballroom dancing, with a minor in tango from Arthur Murray, if that helps:) The stuff you do when you are 30 and still single:)

[Dave (in MA)]

The other Dave Stewart, who was around a while longer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e9rt4UeTNU

[Dave (in MA)]

Posted by: DebinGA | August 17, 2018 at 05:33 PM
Yes.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Any dance style catsmeat. Do em all. Pays to have danced for 15 years. :)

Hubs is a white man dancer, though. (stand mostly in place and move your arms up and down in T-Rex style - usually out of rhythm)

Oh well. Maybe I'll marry Baryshnikov in my next life. Or Gene Kelly.

[DebinGA]

Thanks, Dave. That's close to how I've pictured him.

[Kevlar Kid]

the former is actually David A. Stewart out of deference for the latter :D

[Kevlar Kid]

lol @ "T-Rex style" :D

[henry]

Catsmeat, both alcohol and dance were prohibited by law in the MO town where I grew up (except square dancing, Missouri Waltz, was required in elementary school PE by state law). I only had time in college to get caught up in one of the two.

[Kevlar Kid]

yer a f*ckin scream somtimes, henry.

[Extraneus]

The 2nd Special Counsel, Assange, & The 'Free' Press

Two thirds of Americans want the Mueller investigation (inquisition, someone called it) over by the midterm elections. Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani has said that if Mueller wants to interview Trump, he’ll have to do so before September 1, because the Trump camp doesn’t want to be the one to unduly influence the elections. Mueller himself appears to lean towards prolonging the case, and that may well be with an eye on doing exactly that.

And there’s something else as well: as soon as the investigation wraps up, Trump will demand a second special counsel, this time to scrutinize the role the ‘other side’ has played in the 2016 presidential election and its aftermath.

He’s determined to get it, and he’ll fire both Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein if they try to stand in his way.

There have of course been tons of signs that it’s going to happen, but we got two significant ones just the past few days.

The first is the termination of John Brennan’s security clearance. It looks impossible that no additional clearances will be revoked. There are more people who have them but would also be part of a second special counsel’s investigation. That doesn’t rhyme.

The second sign is Senator Rand Paul’s call for immunity for Julian Assange to come talk to the US senate about what he knows about Russian involvement in the 2016 election. Obviously, we know that he denies its very existence, and has offered to provide evidence to that end. But before he could do that, a potential deal with the DOJ to do so was torpedoed by then FBI chief James Comey and Senator Mark Warner.

Both will also be part of the second investigation.

[henry]

Kev, imagine payroll as your lead cloud product. ( or on prem, they all ftp to the banks and govt). What might a hacker want? SSN, e-verify name/dob, bank acct/routing(s), address, earnings, HIPPA stuff like insurance flex spending reimbursements, job history, spouse and dependent ID info .... and more! One clerk checks FB at lunch via work PC, tracker tags authorization access to payroll app, party in Bejing / Hyderabad / Sofia. Meanwhile under CA or Iowa law, I go to jail, do not pass go.

You ask what I cost? A pack of smokes at this rate.

[Miss Marple]

https://www.hud.gov/press/press_releases_media_advisories/HUD_No_18_085

HUD has filed a housing discrimination complaint against Facebook, alleging that they facilitated discrimination by allowing renters and sellers to opt out of showing listings to certain categories of people.

[Miss Marple]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1030528033411674112.html

Kim Strassel destroys the Washington Post fact-checker, Glen Kessler, over his bogus fact check about Bruce Ohr.

[Kevlar Kid]

that HUD complaint could have some serious legs if Z*ckF*ck hasn't already authorized data cleansing to hide tracks.

IHTFP. BTJM.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

“Am I the only person apoplectic that the Manafort jury hasn't reached a verdict?”

I’m predicting a hung jury. All it takes is one juror who won’t go along with the political lynch mob.

[Jane]

"The US government is holding Paul Manafort in a tiny prison cell during his trial with no reading material and no television."

If he is convicted of anything, the judge should give him time served.

[henry]

The HUD admin complaint puts the burden on FB to prove it didn't discriminate.

Lefty sauce for the lefty gander.

You made the rules, we told you they suck, now you know. Reality is kinetic, as are reality's lessons.

[Miss Marple]

Devin Nunes
‏Verified account @DevinNunes
45m45 minutes ago

Am I the only one who can’t see @DRUDGE_REPORT tweets? I don’t want to falsely accuse @Twitter of shadow banning.

[Extraneus]

Great takedown by Kim Strassel.

[Extraneus]

I'm predicting that Manafort goes down in history as a martyr to a corrupt justice system. Maybe Ellis helps him during sentencing, but it won't just be time served.

Hope I'm wrong because I haven't seen the evidence that should convict him. Maybe I should read a few lefty blogs to find it, but it hasn't been posted here or anywhere else I read.

[Dr Ooga Booga Ching Chong]

Barry Sotoero showed signs of mental retardation shortly after his birth in a Kenyan mud hut.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--AA baseball news...--

So they're reopening the Negro Leagues because TRUMP!

[Miss Marple]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1m1 minute ago

“Fox News has learned that Bruce Ohr wrote Christopher Steele following the firing of James Comey saying that he was afraid the anti-Trump Russia probe will be exposed.” Charles Payne @FoxBusiness How much more does Mueller have to see? They have blinders on - RIGGED!

[Porchlight]

I’m predicting a hung jury. All it takes is one juror who won’t go along with the political lynch mob.

I would love to be that juror.

[jim nj]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-17/china-unsure-of-how-to-handle-trump-braces-for-new-cold-war

[Extraneus]

Did Trump give a link?

[henry]

Porchlight, I agree. One problem. The other jurors from NoVA will doxx and literally hang that person.

[Porchlight]

Frau, if you're reading, I finally found the plums! I think. Have to go to the store and confirm, but I think they're being sold as "sugar plums."

https://www.heb.com/product-detail/fresh-sugar-plums/582535

[Eye Doctor]

It's all a disinformation campaign to distract and deflect from the Clinton Fondation, Uranium One and the Deep States objective of as Obama put it "fundamentally changing the United States of America"

[Extraneus]

I would love to be that juror.

How many Arlingtonians would be so brave, besides the two we know? Remember, no more dinners at the Red Hen, ever. The nice walk along the river is loaded with libs.

The jurors have to know they'll be outed.

[Extraneus]

Didn't see you there, henry.