Keeping Hope Alive!

Bret Stephens of the NY Times welcomes Sarah Jeong aboard, sort of.

He explains that he does not favor judging people for their worst tweets and goes on:

Not surprisingly, some on the left pilloried me for that argument. So allow me to apply precisely the same logic in defense of my soon-to-be colleague at The Times, Korean-American technology writer Sarah Jeong, who is joining the editorial board with her own extensive history of unfortunate tweets.

Among these: “White men are bull—”; “#CancelWhitePeople”; “oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men” and “f— white women lol.” She has also bashed the police, called for censoringa fellow journalist, and believed the 2014 University of Virginia rape hoax, in the course of which she lashed out at “white men” and “white college boys.”

We should call many of these tweets for what they are: racist. I’ve seen some acrobatic efforts to explain why Jeong’s tweets should be treated as “quasi-satirical,” hyperbolical and a function of “social context.” But the criterion for racism is either objective or it’s meaningless: If liberals get to decide for themselves who is or isn’t a racist according to their political lights, conservatives will be within their rights to ignore them.

Hmm, with supporters like these who needs critics?

But the real shocker is the NY Times comments section. I clicked on the Readers Choices and copied the most up-voted comments as of roughly 10 PM Thursday. Here we go - pretty uniformly the Times readers who passed by this column are not happy with the Times positioning. 

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This is the Times so it is no great trick to find readers echoing the "It's not racism if its directed at whites" line of reasoning, but there are many fewer buyers of that logic.

So here's hoping - even though the NY Times editors won't stand up to them (or have become them!) the lunatic fringe is still the fringe.

Comments

[clarice feldman]

They're stuck with her. That's the beauty of this stupid hire.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Are you kidding me?
The lunatic fringe is running the lunatic asylum.

[Pinandpuller]

She was "Provoked" AHAHAHAHA!!! Stupid gwai lo. Die, Yankee Dog!!!

[GUS]

Tom Maguire, there is no LOGIC to their RACISM.
The FULL COMMIE LEFT, cannot be shamed, they are COMMIES.

Commies do what commies do. It never ends without bloodshed

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--He explains that he does not favor judging people for their worst tweets...--

That must be the "sure there was that world war thing and those ovens, but look at the nice autobahn he built" argument.
[I had to change my avatar back to make that comment.]

[Miss Marple]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
4h4 hours ago

Jenna Ellis “FBI thought they wouldn’t get caught because they thought that Hillary was going to win. There is overt bias and that depends on whether you are Democrat or Republican - a double standard that needs to stop.”

[clarice feldman]

Nytol

[Pinandpuller]

This is a rare KJOM for me and a World Premier:

https://soundcloud.com/user-114835879/runes-of-the-earth

[GUS]

When she was hating WHITE FOLKS and wishing white men dead, and when she said she loved to watch old white guys suffer, she actually meant.........

We have to stop debating lunatics and call them out.

[Pinandpuller]

Yeah funny you should say that Iggy because Life is a Highway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqUa_G1h3pw

[jim nj]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/401201-nfl-players-kneel-during-national-anthem-before-first-preseason

Well that should make up a lot of people's minds about watching this year.

[narciso]

So the fooferaw was over a air b n b rental shirley?

[GUS]

Ig!!! Or, he was PROVOKED by the HEBREWS being really mean to ............
Otherwise, he would have been a NICE MAN.

[Miss Marple]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/hard-to-trust-doj-fbi-cia-without-accountability/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Victor Davis Hanson

[Pinandpuller]

Do you guys remember when Darren Wilson killed Saint Michael Brown? After three Obama officials attended the funeral Eric Holder sent investigators down to Ferguson to find a way of jamming up Darren Wilson. They investigated for eight months and the only crime they could find was that Ferguson was 65% black and 85% of TRAFFIC TICKETS went to POC!!! OMG!!! As an aside they backed off on traffic enforcement and a hit and run at a school zone knocked over two ten year olds. And generally shitty driving increased.

Basically all this Mueller bullshit has uncovered is some speeding tickets Manafort didn't pay.

[jim nj]

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/08/08/canadians-try-boycott-american-made-food-products/

Woman picks up a bag of McCains [100% Canadian company] sweet potato fries. Looks at bag "grown in the US." Nobody grows sweet potatoes in Canada.

[GUS]

PIN. 3 BLACK OBAMA OFFICIALS.

[narciso]

They hired her to istensibly write about tech and videogames shes a high priestess of gamergate, part of the reason milo went deplorable.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I wonder if Sarah shot her TV at the end of A Christmas Story when the Chinese busboys sing Deck the Hars With Bows Of Har-ry, Fa-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra-Ra.

[Miss Marple]

Esquire: James Bond Producers Are Leaning Toward Idris Elba As the Next 007 https://t.co/x8oCDT4ynL

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) August 10, 2018

Pictures at link.

[narciso]

She's the younger version of Mrs swan from mad magazine, they knew how to crash a punchline into a small moon

[GUS]

I researched this a few days ago.
MICHAEL BROWN ....Saint JUMBO Trayvon II, tried to disarm Darren Wilson after he cold cocked him in his squad car. Wee Michael Brown, had a gun shot wound to his own WEE hand, and his DNA was present in Darren Wilson's squad car.....
I REMEMBER ALL OF THESE FACTS.
Opie, half BLACK/Half STRAIGHT Obama, sent 3 "Officials" to BIG VIOLENT DEAD MIKE BROWN'S funeral. WHY?? Seriously, TELL ME WHY, OPIE BI OBAMA felt the need to send 3 BLACK PEEPS to FERGUSEN/ST LOUIS to attend 300 LB CRIMINAL BLACK MAN Mike BROWNS' FUNERAL.

MARLON MARSHALL, HEATHER FOSTER, BRODERICK JOHNSON. All 3 black, all 3 OBAMA accolytes, all 3 sent to represent YOU AND ME, at MICHAEL BROWN'S funeral.

DISCUSS.

[Bubarooni]

I've been stuck in Olney, IL on a f'cked up data conversion project this week. It's a two hour drive each day, each way.

Company policy says I have to fill up at Citgo gas stations. I'm down to 17 miles when I hit one in Sandborn, IN.

As I'm filling up this ginormous pickup pulls up and out pops a lady and a boy about the same age as my boy. The lady is crying her eyes out.

I fill up and walk in to pay and the lass is still gushing tears.

I didn't ask but she apologizes to me for her state and says she's outta gas, outta money and doesn't get her husband's check till .

Says her husband got called up from Indiana National Guard last week.

My Dad and older brother were both lifers.

I paid the gas bill, walked up znc gave the $47 in my wallet to her and punched the boy in the arm and told him his Dad was a good guy doing a great thing.

I hope I didn't get punked.

[Miss Marple]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1027721493117952000.html

Rex on Julian Assange's importance.

[Tom R]

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/401193-gop-chairman-set-to-issue-steele-dossier-subpoenas?amp&__twitter_impression=true

This info combined with the recent leaks to John Solomon send an obvious clear signal that the next phase of the Horowitz IG investigation is complete and these people have been released to testify before Congress.

[Pinandpuller]

Help me Tom Cruise:

The most intense police shooting we've seen in a while

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ8iIfiAPHA&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=qUSu3eq_-9U97vDf%3A6

[Miss Marple]

Bubarooni,

You did a good thing, whether you were punked or not.

I think not, due to the crying.

[Pinandpuller]

Posted by: Bubarooni | August 09, 2018 at 11:11 PM

Where is Olney, IL?

When I was on the outskirts of Cairo, IL today there was a sign that said "Future City" but there's no telling how long it's been there. I have to rate it Possibly True.

[Pinandpuller]

MARLON MARSHALL, HEATHER FOSTER, BRODERICK JOHNSON. All 3 black, all 3 OBAMA accolytes, all 3 sent to represent YOU AND ME, at MICHAEL BROWN'S funeral.

DISCUSS.

Posted by: GUS | August 09, 2018 at 11:09 PM

Colin Flaherty's interpretation was it was a SIGNAL to the local authorities to jamb Darren Wilson up with extreme...PREJUDICE...

[Manuel Transmission]

Abstraction: ab·strac·tion
abˈstrakSH(ə)n/
noun

the quality of dealing with ideas rather than events.
"topics will vary in degrees of abstraction"

All the back and forth over the last day or so here on JOM (we had about 10 hrs of data darkness due to someone tripping over the fiber extension cord in Anacortes) invoked an epiphany in my little brain.

That eureka? that something that has been floating around in my brain for decades finally hit critical mass. Human brains operate on at leaset three levels: 1) for lack of a more formal description - the collective unconcious where we get our subtle cues from the outer world as primative cultures have for thousands of years (at least!); 2) 'the real world' where we interact with hot stoves and other 'real' stuff; and 3) the abstract world where our betters live that can, with a little effort, exist without any direct contact with 1 or 2 above.

Now, anyone who has read any of Robin's references to the axe maker's mind will recognise that she has clearly identified the deliberate effort to dial out any reference to level 2 awareness.

So how does this relate to the back and forth of anonamom and the EMT records and all the nuiances as to how that affects the patient experience? Because the good doctors (and RNs) have instinctively integrated all three elements in their practices, because success requires it, while all the bureauacries naturally strip away all of 1 and 2 as a basis of how that realm normally works. The distraction of typing into a box, which masks the subtle signals of body language and other natural mechanisms is the end result.

But in the larger picture, think about how the full court press to shove us into 3 preferably without any further sense of 2 is the essence of almost everything that is wrong today. Trump intrinsically works in all three modes comfortably and that may be the Stable Genius element that is so bewildering to all those who don't grok him.

[jim nj]

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/09/oxford-conservatives-are-right-to-be-skeptical-of-scientific-establishments/

[Pinandpuller]

Hey guys what about GAY MALE CHEERLEADERS???

Real Talk.

[GUS]

No way PIN. You're shittin' me.
Obama sends 3 REPRESENTATIVES, whom NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD OF BEFORE, to BIG MICHAEL BROWN'S funeral and the SO SO SAD observations and celebrations of his criminal life. WHY?? Why would OBAMA do this??
It's patently obvious. OBAMA is a COMMIE HALF BLACK CLOWN. It's like slapping AMERICAN POLICE in the FACE. There is/was ZERO EVIDENCE of WHITEY putting down THE CRIMINAL MICHAEL BROWN for RACIAL BIAS. QUITE THE CONTRARY.
So, how am I supposed to view OBAMA and his racist/clownist view points. AND, These 3 black OBAMA REPRESENTATIVES to the FUNERAL. WTF??

Who are they, and WHY are they?

[Pinandpuller]

*Spoiler Alert*

It wasn't a white guy:

The book, at its most basic level, is a story about a little girl’s journey from the insidiousness of Chinese authoritarianism to the horrors of inner-city America. The story begins in China in the late 1970s, where economic reforms are rapidly transforming the country into a more hopeful, more colorful place, and where our protagonist immerses herself in a world of fantasy and foreign influences while grappling with the mundane vagaries of Communist rule. In the mid-1980s, she happily immigrates to Oakland, California, expecting her new life to be far better in all ways than life in China. Instead, she discovers crumbling schools, unsafe streets, and racist people. In the land of the free, she comes of age amid the dysfunction of a city’s brokenness and learns to hate in the shadows of urban decay. The book is a story about her journey and how she prevailed.

FP: And that little girl is you, you’re the Chinese girl in the ghetto.

YM: Yes, the book is autobiographical. It is about my family’s journey from Guangzhou, China’s third largest city, to inner-city Oakland, California.

FP: On your website, you refer to the book as “a politically incorrect memoir.” What makes it politically incorrect?

YM: The book is politically incorrect mainly in a couple of ways. For one, it makes clear, through my experiences, that racial minorities are capable of profound racism. As you know, this is a politically incorrect thing to say because our political culture often views minorities, especially blacks and Hispanics, as victims of racism who are incapable of being racists. When individuals from these groups commit racist acts, people have a tendency to look away. This is outrageous not only for the targets of racism, but it is also unfortunate for those behaving in a racist manner because they’re never held to the same standards of personal responsibility and decency as others. In my book, I don’t look away, and my hope is that the book will help shatter the hypocrisy and the soft bigotry of low expectations commonly found in this country’s racial discourse.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/90407/chinese-girl-ghetto-jamie-glazov

[Miss Marple]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/09/joe-digenova-discusses-ongoing-possibilities-in-congressional-investigation-into-spygate-and-fisa-abuse/

[Pinandpuller]

Where are they now, GUS?

Are they burrowed in to the Deep State like a tick?

[GUS]

Pin, why haven't ESPN, or MS13-NBC, CNN, HEADLINE VIEWS, ABC, NBC, SEE B-S, or any other FULL COMMIE network, HIRED a TRANSGENDER...... whatever that is defined as.....to be a TALKING HEAD or a represent any one of these networks?
It's all nonsense and political posturing.
Not so long ago, the general response by the PUBLIC, would be to scoff or laugh at this SHIT.
For me to even say this, will set the FULL COMMIE nuts....ON FIRE.

[Pinandpuller]

Hey, do strong arm robbers look more like me and GUS or Michael Brown? I have tons of YouTube evidence. 75% of mass shooters don't look like me. Guys like me put our gear in the trunk if WAZE takes us to a kind of shitty gun culture state. Guys like me keep our sights and ejection ports oriented UP.

[Miss Marple]

Heading to bed and will show up if I wake up in the middle of the night. (I have gotten used to waking after 4 hours sleep.)

Nytol!

[joan]

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/news/a37548/idris-elba-james-bond-street-trigger-mortis-author/

This article is way old, 2015, but the guy said Elba was too 'street' to play Bond, and he got so much criticism, he had to apologize. :)

I like Elba (really liked him in The Wire), but I think James Norton, after seeing him in McMafia (and his killer acting as the psycopath in Happy Valley), would be great as the next Bond.

[GUS]

Pin, the 3 OBAMA sycophants, and members of a HUGE Executive Branch hire-o-rama, is telling to me.
I have known of the 3 MICHAEL BROWN...Obama sent "OFFICIALS" to Michael Browns funeral ....since it happened. I have known that the OBAMA admin, and the LOSERS that OBAMA was and is surrounded with, were all CHOSEN, HIRED and GIVEN....libtard/Obama....BONAFIDES. I Can only assume, that these UNKNOWN OBAMA unknown BLACK OFFICIALS, who went to honor a CRIMINAL, have by now, made their bones, and have elevated their careers, by being RACIALLY BIASED and CHARGED no bodies. Tomorrow, I will do some due diligence, but racial grievance NO BODIES, should not have a paid for CAREER and PENSION by being a suck up.

[Pinandpuller]

I'd like to see Ed Norton play Kunta Kinte. Is there a problem?

[Pinandpuller]

*Spoiler*

His name is Toby.

[daddy]

Clarice,

Thought this bit on a Korean Immigrant with the last name Ohr might fit the bill for being able to figure out who Bruce Ohr's parents were since Ohr as a Korean last name seems to be one of a kind:

Remembering All Who Served on Veterans Day---Fred Ohr

All soldiers have endured hardship, but some have faced an additional burden. Such was the case for Fred Ohr, a son of Korean immigrants, who not only became an ace Army Air Corps pilot, but a squadron Commander...

...Ohr was born July 15, 1919, to Korean immigrants Wanda and Wan Ju. His parents had fled their homeland to escape persecution from Japan. “The Japanese were trying to eliminate the Korean race,” says Ohr. “That’s why they came to America. My father ended up in a salmon fishing camp in Alaska. Then he came to Oregon and worked as a lumberjack, in the 1900s.”

When his parents went through immigration to become U.S. citizens, there was no equivalent English name for Ju. The immigration officer heard his father say “Oh,” and, not knowing what to do, added the letter “r” to the sound “Oh.” That’s how Fred’s Korean name of Yu became Americanized to Ohr.

Since he is Korean and since Ohr is such a unique name, my guess is Bruce Ohr has to be part of this extended Ohr family since there probably aren't any others Korean Ohr's on the planet. I'm just waggin it, but this timeframe would reasonably fit as this guy being Bruce Ohr's fathers Uncle or older brother.

Let me keep sleuthing.

Anybody have an account to Ancestry.com and can look up Fred Ohr?

[narciso]

Well it would be about two generation so grandson or grandnephew,

[GUS]

Bruce Ohr, has listed himself SOMEWHERE as CAUCASION.

Why does he HATE his AGGRIEVED HERITAGE??

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I concur with MM, Bubarooni. :)

[jim nj]

Man Tran, I like it.

I've come to think of the first part of consciousness as the "lizard" brain. It's the startle response that causes you to jerk your head back when a leaf falls too close to your face. I think of as pre-consciousness, or if you will, instinct.

Wilderness brain attuned to danger that reacts without thought. Self-preservation - flight or fight.

Then, of course, you have a sub-conscious and full conscious thought that allows you to evaluate the lizard brain alert more rationally.

And, if some are to be believed, there is a cosmic consciousness that only some can connect to, possibly explaining pure genius.

I think Trump makes good use of that lizard brain and trusts his response to the stimuli with a well honed business mind. Then the strategy falls into place.

Real estate is the perfect civilian occupation to practice the art of war.

[joan]

MT, 11.21: Interesting. I read your post twice. Still thinking about it.

Maybe not related, but sometimes I have three or four levels going on at the same time -- say, doing a task in kitchen (hot stove or boiling water so have to take care, also taking next step in recipe or fixing another dish), thinking about a problem related to family, planning or thinking about an article, and sometimes answering questions -- when I tell my husband I'm operating on several different levels, he shakes his head at me. I do this all of the time throughout the day.

Though I have been told by someone I love that I had a grasshopper mind and might have been a success if I'd learned to focus on one thing at a time. :)

Not quite what you were talking about.

And, as far as the doctors, if I try to say anything while my doctor is typing in his code he asks me not to talk, he doesn't want to make a mistake on the code or the insurance will kick it out -- he stares down at the thing, and says it's difficult to get it right and he has to concentrate. It's at that time that I wish I'd taken a list of questions to ask him so I'd remember what I wanted to say.

[Pinandpuller]

In Cape Girardeau today we were toodling around downtown waiting for our Broussard's (h/t Kev). I saw this tall black dude heading down the sidewalk toward us and I grabbed my dog and my wife (wife wasn't on a leash) and headed uptown. Then we crossed the street. This dude wasn't a threat because he was black but I knew he was fishing for something because I've worked in Nashville nine years and I finally got streetwise. He asked other people for stuff.

On the other side of the street we passed two black dudes sitting on a bench and we exchanged looks, greetings and head nods. And my dog didn't go apeshit so she's obviously IMPLICITLY racist.

Me, I'm a Person of Farmer Tan and I'm pretty dark between the hat and the collar and sleeves down.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I'd like to see Ed Norton play Kunta Kinte. Is there a problem?--

Wait, do you mean Ed Norton or Art Carney?
If the latter, there could be a bit of a problem.

[narciso]

Yes Norton seemed a,little bland then you saw him practicing system, Craig was just too severe for bond, I think brosnan struck a happy medium.

[Pinandpuller]

Wait, do you mean Ed Norton or Art Carney?
If the latter, there could be a bit of a problem.

Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky | August 10, 2018 at 12:11 AM

What, you're some kind of Dead Bigot? You know what I mean.

[GUS]

Pin, stop trying to make LOGICAL decisions vis a vis yourself and your wife. Just take your medicine. Your WHITE PRIVILEGE is your downfall.

You get it my brother. Enjoy your trip and make sure you taunt me, when you get HOME, to WYOMING.

[Pinandpuller]

You don't suppose Bruce is a sleeper agent from DPRNK?

Out: Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

In: Bruce and Nellie Ohr

Tennessee iced some dude today

And Sonia Sotomayor cried

[narciso]

How about Marc strong, he's half Italian but he's played a,British spy in a number of roles like kingsman.

[GUS]

Yeah, the DUDE didn't RAPE the WISE Latina, when she was 7. What a fucking douche bag.
Cry me a fucking RIVER .....Sotomayor.

[Pinandpuller]

I'll tell ya GUS, Kansas is Wyoming without the sagebrush and mountains. It's not too bad. If you have a storm shelter. I did see a headscarf but it may have actually been the good kind.

[Pinandpuller]

When you evict someone you probably shouldn't let him babysit but still, he got another thirty years.

[GUS]

Criminals generally prey upon others who are not so wise.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Ocasio-Cortez was in a bar when the television news reported 2 Brazilian women had died. She burst into tears, "How many is a Brazilian?"

[jim nj]

I've noticed a bunch of stories like this one over the last two weeks.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/handling-of-us-trade-dispute-causes-rift-in-chinese-leadership-source.html

[GUS]

Stephanie. This broad has an ECON degree from BOSTON University.
She's dumber than a pile of KITTY LITTER.

And she's a hero.

[GUS]

Jim NJ, there are hundreds of stories that shit on DJT for TRADE WARS!!!!!!

OMG, OMG, OMG TRADE WARS!!!!!

It was all OKAY, when LEADING FROM HIS SKINNY BEHIND, had US paying tarriffs, and PAYING IRAN, and paying NATO and PAYING any sort of PARIS/MONTREAL or any other GLOW BULL WARMING bull shit.
Donald Trump is not stupid nor gullible.
THE LEFTIST BULLSHIT is not accepted as REAL.

[daddy]

Miss Marple's 11:11 includes this which I had not considered:

4. I also want to know whether the UK govt has been illegally keeping Assange in that embassy in London, because they're terrified of implications for THEM.

Probably.

I'd still like to know what "burgler" got caught and chased off trying to sneak in the Embassy Assange is cloistered in, and if he was on a "kill" mission. I wonder how many people out there know that info?

[narciso]

I'm still struck how quickly judge Sullivan was reacting to some half baked rumor, whereas the last year and a half, of statutory and constitutional violations, cricket.

[daddy]

Bruce Ohr, has listed himself SOMEWHERE as CAUCASIAN.

Well here's more on Fred Ohr from Wiki

And here's Caucasian Bruce:

If either one of 'ems got Wet Ear-Wax I'll eat my hat!

[GUS]

Daddy, Assange, will probably have to face the MUSIC at some point. The ECUADORIAN Embassy in London, may be able to keep this JERK, in their British EMBASSY for ever, but.....WHY?
Julian Assange's real fears, are related to criminal sexual assault charges from SWITZERLAND.
Those serious charges were dropped recently.
Assange and his WIKILEAKS are not GOOD GUYS.
Edward Snowden, is not a good guy.

Snowden and Assange, need to be held accountable, for the CRIMES, that they committed.

[joan]

I like Mark Strong -- he would be a good Bond.

[joan]

Oh, Stephanie, that is a good one! l0l !

[GUS]

Daddy, I was on the OHR, NELLIE ORH bullshit from the GET GO. None of it added up. (unless you are a moron like TOM R.) But as we go further up the BULLSHIT CHAIN. Brucie, is a CAUCASION. Why would BRUCIE OHR, lie and call himself a CAUCASION.
Not a big deal, but WHY??? Numerous JOMers' did some digging and wondered why. Some RESEARCH and NORTHERN European name searches were bandied about.
For what reason??? Brucie Ohr had declared himself CAUCASION. Why?? Ohr lying about his HERITAGE is not that important. However, the FACT that his FUKWAD, DID, bullshit about it, is telling. His biases and his WIFES CONNECTIONS TO GPS/FUSION. JUST FUCKING COINCIDENTAL---RIGHT??? Are epic. BRUCIE WHITE MAN and his continued CONNECTIONS to the FILTH at GPS/FUSION, after being NO LONGER FBI related is EPIC, BEYOND EPIC.

[narciso]

Well he was a fine kangaroo when he was revealing us ops personnel et al, thats when thr guatdian times post loved him, he got a whold of red queens dirty laundry thats when everything changed.

[Pinandpuller]

Did Bruce Ohr's Social Security number match to a dead guy in Connecticut?

[jim nj]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-slams-us-for-lacking-%e2%80%98basic-decorum%e2%80%99-in-nuke-talks/ar-BBLJgLP?li=BBnb7Kz

We, apparently, forgot to say please, or something. Then again, maybe we just differ on what the word denuclearize means.

[GUS]

I wonder how STUPID and IGNORANT someone would have to be, to not CLEARLY identify and Recognize, the level oF OBVIOUS Corruption and BIAS involved in the FBI and DOJ with regard to the RIDICULOUS nonsense vis a vis, POSSIBLE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in OUR ELECTIONS.
I've come to recognize and understand, that MANY MANY PEEPS, who seem SMART and CAPABLE, are NEITHER. That scares me.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A HEEEEEUUUUUUGE CONSPIRACY.
Those, criminals who have found themselves involved in this CONSPIRACY, may not see themselves as DISGUSTING CRIMINALS.....
BUT THEY ARE.

[GUS]

Pin, why do you HATE Caucasion men????

Hahahahahahahahaha.

[Pinandpuller]

Pin, why do you HATE Caucasion men????

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Posted by: GUS | August 10, 2018 at 01:18 AM

He just said that to get into Harvard.

[GUS]

Jim Nj, the PATHETIC MFM, will tell us how NK bitch slapped DJT or more accurately the U.S.A., it's so sad and pathetic. If NK wanted to make a splash, they could say Donald Trump, tried to buy some NK CHICKS!!!!!
The LIBTARD MEDIA would sniff and get TURGID and give NORTH KOREA, their LOVE.

The USA is in GREAT SHAPE. Our economy is better than any time in the last 20 plus years. Blacks, women, hispanics and every other measurable METRIC have more jobs and better PAY and INCOME than any time on RECORD.

But FULL COMMIE LIBTARDS still shit on AMERICA.

[GUS]

Clever, Obama pretended to be KENYAN to get into Harvard.
We've been told that Barely Obama Fife, was the PRESIDENT of the HARVARD LAW REVIEW!!!!!

Wtf does that mean?? I've asked SMART CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS, and even THEY, have bought into some sort of OBAMA WROTE XYZ. Obama wrote NOTHING. Obama is a USELESS FUKWIT.

[jim nj]

GUS,

From articles I'm reading it seems that both North Korea and China are baffled with Trump.

China expected the Trump policy on trade to evaporate.

North Korea expected that meeting with Trump and making promises, that Trump would ease of the sanctions. Trump, and his team, are working to tighten the sanctions protocol.

Quite a few Chinese seem to revere Trump. Remember my weird "Grandpa Trump save us" post of yesterday.

[rich]

Posted by: Manuel Transmission | August 09, 2018 at 11:21 PM

gonna have to unpack this! drinking some beer and had an unfortunately long day ...

[daddy]

Good job, Bubarooni!

I vicariously feel like a Good Samaritan because of you:) Cheers!

[jim nj]

BBC has some fun with the Space Force logo.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45123606

Shows some designs you can vote on. I'd like to see what Sabo can come up with.

[jim nj]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/on-north-korea-pompeos-talks-are-faltering-here-are-a-few-reasons-why

I wonder if this is accurate. It could be true. According to this Pompeo wants North Korea to give up a lot of weapons in eight months.

Me? Yeah, I'd push for a big number fast. It begs the question are you serious or not. If not, we'll keep negotiating and apply even more pressure to the sanctions by calling people out or sanctioning them also, like we did to a Russian bank dealing with the NoKos recently. Do the same thing with Chinese banks that are working with the NoKos.

Thought. Did China think that helping us with North Korea was tied to trade? That could explain the confusion of both Asian nations.

If North Korea isn't fair dealing, why take the pressure off China? If North Korea is fair dealing, what does that have to do with trade imbalances?

[Kevlar Kid]

Bruce Ohr obviously identifies with his white daddy? or his white grandaddy... or.... it's all so confusing (/sarc)

[jim nj]

http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20180809-chinas-rebel-generation-and-the-rise-of-hot-words

Interesting article. Young Chinese avoid censorship by creating new words as code for other things.

It's like a hacker culture. China's young ones are rebellious.

[jim nj]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/10/us-china-trade-war-beijing-rebuts-criticism-of-backlash-over-tariffs.html

China daily pushing back against reporting of fractures in government thought.

[rich]

>>>I wonder how many people out there know that info?

Posted by: daddy | August 10, 2018 at 12:38 AM<<<

about a dozen ...

[rich]

bubarooni ... pretty sure you got scammed. they are everywhere in Fairfax - by-and-by - a cell got me ... a couple of cute kids and the distressed mom routine. made sure they at least had some water, snacks, and a full gas tank for their next con. I kept the receipts! too bad i couldn't deduct it - for stupid.

too much for an eeyore?

too much.

[rich]

>>>It's like a hacker culture. China's young ones are rebellious.

Posted by: jim nj | August 10, 2018 at 02:51 AM<<<

if you are interested there is a large body of work regarding the convict flash of australia, a good library and jstor could point you in the right direction ... an analogy could be made to both (a stray thought, has the language of resistance in persecuted christian communities been studied? probably ...).

[daddy]

Still sleuthing on Korean American Fred Ohr.

Also honored was Maj. Fred Ohr, the only American ace of Korean ancestry. He served with the 2nd Fighter Squadron, 52nd Fighter Group, until November 1944. He worked his way to the ranking of squadron colonel and flew 241 combat missions before returning stateside. His first victory was against a Ju-88 while flying a Spitfire. He then transitioned to the P-51 and shot down five more German fighters.

Wiki says that after the War he became a Dental Surgeon in Chicago, so obviously a very smart, very accomplished man. Retired in Rockford, Illinois and buried in Arlington Cemetery.

[jim nj]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/business/chinese-lending-platform-panic-protests.html

with apologies to gus, IF YOU READ ANYTHING AT ALL I POST TONIGHT, YOU HAVE TO READ THIS. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO READ THIS SO AS TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ORDINARY CHINESE INVESTORS. THEIR MONEY IS JUST DISAPPEARING.

"In recent years, millions of ordinary investors across China have plowed their savings into online financial products that promised big profits with little risk. But the sudden collapse of hundreds of these peer-to-peer lenders in recent months has prompted a panic, leaving many investors with little information and little way to get their money back."

"A vast, unruly shadow banking system, where some companies have lured people with get-rich-quick schemes, has created hidden debt bombs that could leave the economy vulnerable."

"Officials trying to control the situation are faced with a fast-moving crisis. In July alone, 168 lending platforms halted their operations, according to Wangdaizhijia."

This is in some sense the beginning of the debt bubble I've warned against.

Chinese citizens are losing large sums of money, because these accounts have no depositor insurance.

Who do you think they blame? Did I hear the Government? You betcha.

You don't need a degree in economics to figure out how these Chinese feel.

[jim nj]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-09/u-s-oil-vanishing-from-chinese-tariffs-reveals-america-s-clout

OOPS. China doesn't have enough access to crude oil, so it just exempted US imports of crude.

Major fail.

[rich]

>>>Thought. Did China think that helping us with North Korea was tied to trade? That could explain the confusion of both Asian nations.

If North Korea isn't fair dealing, why take the pressure off China? If North Korea is fair dealing, what does that have to do with trade imbalances?

Posted by: jim nj | August 10, 2018 at 02:33 AM<<<

it might go to your other articles above about the confusion. no one in the US has linked the issue seriously, at least at this level before. and North Korea is into a lot more than just weapons proliferation ... narco-terror, tunnel building (think Gaza), counterfeiting, finicial frauds ... a lot of chinese have gotten rich in macau (which sort of explains hamas and eta teaming up) for being the front for the north korean "sopranos state" ...

https://nautilus.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/0605Chestnut1.pdf

[rich]

take this all up when i get up ...

[rich]

Posted by: jim nj | August 10, 2018 at 03:26 AM

it's not a debt bubble, it is a ponzi scheme ...

[jim nj]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/business/trump-trade-china.html

More about China trying to make accommodations. Trade talks have been handed off to moderates.

[jim nj]

Posted by: jim nj | August 10, 2018 at 03:26 AM

it's not a debt bubble, it is a ponzi scheme ...

Posted by: rich | August 10, 2018 at 03:41 AM
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Yes and no. Not a classic Ponzi scheme, although they did claim out-sized returns. These things were promoted through Chinese media. China heavily censors the media. They didn't do that to these intermediaries, ergo, they had state approval. Or seemed to.

[Kevlar Kid]

Communist China is less confused than it is disoriented by POTUS' disruption strategy.

Coupled with the craters appearing throughout their state managed economy and, some generally stupid Communist style sh*t like their Potemkin city "development" projects and environmental fouling, this is the perfect time for POTUS' multifront effort.

One of those fronts AGAINST Communist China is NOKO; even though the PR offensive made NOKO look like the ultimate "object of desire."

Pompeo is the right official to lead the negotiations process. He doesn't need to get a deal-- he needs only to disrupt the corrupt practices that make NOKO Nukes possible in the first place. Cockroaches cant build nests in broad daylight.

Mike Pompeo is Mr. Daylight.

[Pinandpuller]

OK I've never stayed in a hotel with central air before.