Post Game

Lots of primary news.

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[Bunky is now Savotage!!!]

Go to YouTube type in Trump on Donohue 1987. He’s amazing.

[henry]

Last night, the “margin of victory” for statewide Democrat votes cast in the gubernatorial primary over Republican votes cast in the Senate primary was 9.9 percent (and nearly 100,000 total votes out of fewer than half of the total cast in the general election eight years ago).

http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2018/08/a-crucial-election/

(repeat from last thread)

[narciso]

Carrying on from the last thread, don't these idiots realize there were four candidates on the Democratic ballot. And the most inadequate won the primary.

[narciso]

Ok, it was McIver, but it was poorly written.

[Miss Marple]

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/sunday-nights-matt-doran-goes-undercover-with-operation-underground-railroad-to-bring-down-haiti-child-sex-ring/news-story/dcecf5950ca5b6d501c48ed927127bc3

The Haitian sex trafficking is very real. Wonder why we don't read much about it here in the US....

[Kevlar Kid]

Good luck, Scott Walker.

I read this rundown on the primary and the emerging election.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/08/14/wisconsin-governors-race-evers-face-scott-walker-november/945058002/

a motley bunch in that primary. no munny for the Dhimmicrats. should make it interesting.

anti-Foxconn, pro-union, pro-socialist health care.... a very tired platform.

[Extraneus]

Beasts, that second microtonal guitar was mind-boggling.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--the “margin of victory” for statewide Democrat votes cast in the gubernatorial primary over Republican votes cast in the Senate primary was 9.9 percent--

Huh?

[henry]

another conventional roundup of the primary (WI)

https://www.wispolitics.com/2018/evers-to-battle-walker-vukmir-to-contest-baldwin-in-november-elections/

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Tinker to Evers to Walker to Vukmir to Baldwin to chance.

[henry]

Former Vice President Joe Biden won’t be campaigning at the Illinois State Fair due to an illness, state Democrats announced late Tuesday.

sudden ankle tracking bracelet syndrome?

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/joe-biden-falls-ill-wont-campaign-for-dems-at-illinois-state-fair/

[henry]

Ig, more voted in the "Dem" primary than the "R" primary. That is not unusual, and may or may not mean anything. But the "experts" run with it.

[James D.]

Fromthe last thread:

Joe Scarborough thinks

Well, there's the error right there...

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

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[narciso]

There you go,

The horde seems to be confused about vukmir.

[rse]

new post up--

http://invisibleserfscollar.com/main-threat-main-challenge-lies-in-the-organization-of-our-individual-collective-minds/

I like this schedule of writing then walking. Very cathartic.

[henry]

The horde chased the Bannon fake news pumped out by Nicholson. Idiots.

[Tom R]

The Haitian sex trafficking is very real. Wonder why we don't read much about it here in the US....

The advocates seeking justice tend to end up dead.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--Ig, more voted in the "Dem" primary than the "R" primary.--

OK I think I got it. There was a Dem primary for gov but not one for the Reps and vice versa Senate-wise.
That seems like a remarkably poor method of tabulating...well pretty much anything.

[Extraneus]

New Mexico Judge Accuses Prosecutors of Anti-Muslim Bias in Her Decision to Release Dangerous Jihadists Running Islamic Terror Camp

Well, that's Gateway's headline. Here's from the judge:

“The defendants are apparently of the Muslim faith. The Court was asked by the State to make a finding of dangerousness and a finding of no conditions of release could ensure the safety of the community. The State apparently expected the court to take the individuals’ faith into account in making such a determination. The Court has never been asked to take any other person’s faith into account in making a determination of dangerousness. The Court is not aware of any law that allows the Court to take a person’s faith into consideration in making a dangerousness determination.”

(Click to enlarge.)

[pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter]

From the 10:42 link.

:“I’ve watched as Scott Walker has made decision after decision that benefits himself and his wealthy donors, and not what benefits us, the people of Wisconsin,” Evers said"

IMO, after being around politics for four score years, I have never heard of any decision by a Democrat that benefits legal Americans.

[Frau Krimi]

Susan Shellley is always worth reading. Her column today deals with the mystery of Strzok's Go-Pay-Me-Off account:

"This FBI plot is no Agatha Christie-style cozy mystery":

https://www.dailybreeze.com/2018/08/14/this-fbi-plot-is-no-agatha-christie-style-cozy-mystery/

[henry]

pagar, Evers is a wholly owned subsidiary of the teachers union. Has been his entire career. To translate from Evers, "the people of wisconsin" = "teachers union administrators."

[Miss Marple]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
10m10 minutes ago

Happy Birthday to the leader of the Democrat Party, Maxine Waters!

[narciso]

So is there even a tape about the tape, or are they guessing the color of the unicorn?

[Miss Marple]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
4m4 minutes ago

Our Country was built on Tariffs, and Tariffs are now leading us to great new Trade Deals - as opposed to the horrible and unfair Trade Deals that I inherited as your President. Other Countries should not be allowed to come in and steal the wealth of our great U.S.A. No longer!

[rse]

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/08/09/one-year-after-the-charlottesville-riots-and-still-no-new-kerner-commission/

Call for Congress to create a new race relations commission. Fits with complaints about South Africa having confronted its racist past, while america has not. Ultimately it's all just an excuse for so-called 'economic democracy' and a politically organized society around Equity for All.

[maryrose]

Pagar:
Excellent posts and it is hard to believe that anyone votes for Dems, they are so corrupt.
I still want justice and a reopening of the Hillary case.
Mueller and Comey have extracted their revenge, now let’s prosecute them.As to the contributors to the begging fund of Strzok- a fool and his money are soon parted.

[henry]

Look at South Africa today. Who would want to emulate that?

[henry]

The Federalist @FDRLST
41m

New Details Show Firing Strzok Didn't Remove All The Tainted FBI Agents

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/15/new-details-show-firing-strzok-didnt-remove-compromised-fbi-agents-involved-russiagate/

[rse]

Oh, henry, once again letting facts get in the way of lovely rhetoric and a transformative vision of the future.

[Eye Doctor]

Falwell Jr.: Sessions and Rosenstein ‘deceived’ Trump into appointing them and should ‘rot’ in jail

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/401513-falwell-jr-sessions-and-rosenstein-deceived-trump-into%3famp

[Old Lurker]

JiB when you stop in.

Any early educated guesses about that bridge in Italy?

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--The Court has never been asked to take any other person’s faith into account in making a determination of dangerousness.--

Really? No cults have ever been treated differently?
Courts don't take kids away from Christian Scientist faith healer types?
A significant portion of that faith, including people closely associated with this gang, are fanatical murderers.
The court, like the law, is an ass.

[lyle]

Ever get frustrated with paywalls? Well, good news: Lieawatha has an opinion piece in today’s WSJ that’s safely behind one. Here’s my response: 🖕

[lurkersusie]

Margot Cleveland
@ProfMJCleveland
DOJ's Bruce Ohr fed Steele's "intel" to FBI after Steele removed as source But Rosenstein told Congress he “never involved” Ohr w/ Russia investigation & did not "assign" him ANY role in Crossfire Hurricane. Did his former boss Sally Yates? @FDRLST

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/15/bruce-ohr-implicate-high-ranking-obama-officials-spygate/

[Man Tran]

Re the Hundredth Monkey discussion on the last thread, I remember a story that way back in OZ there was an attempt to limit the range of water buffaloes in the northern territories. They strung an electric fence for hundreds (?) of miles to set the boundary. One buffalo broke through and that was that. No more.

[Frau Krimi]

maryrose sez "As to the contributors to the begging fund of Strzok- a fool and his money are soon parted."

In a similar vein, my husband remarked, "They can only spend it once."

[Ralph L]

“Wednesday”

I'm pretty sure this is part of a joke, but the Addams daughter is the only thing that comes to mind.

[henry]

CNBC Now @CNBCnow
1m

JUST IN: US targets Chinese and Russian firms for sanctions related to North Korea

[Ralph L]

Wouldn't there be a horrible pile-up when the buffalo herd hit the fence?

[Eye Doctor]

The idea that Rosenstein did not know of Ohr's involvement is laughable.

He knew!

[maryrose]

Lurkersusie’s post is s must read!

[Porchlight]

Repost from last thread, re: first comment on this thread by henry:

Not a native, but seems to me that eternally butthurt WI Dems will turn out for any election with Walker's name on the ballot, even if it's just a primary with a foregone conclusion on the R side.

[maryrose]

I don’t think Rosenstein would blatantly lie to Congress.
We will find out soon.

[Extraneus]

Margot Cleveland is on fire today. Is that two big Federalist pieces by her so far?

Once again, Ohr and Steele’s exchanges detailed by Solomon provide a hint: The day after Yate’s firing, Steele contacted Ohr, texting “doubtless a sad and crazy day for you re-SY,” a clear reference to Sally Yates. “Just wanted to check you are OK, still in situ and able to help locally as discussed, along with your Bureau colleagues,” Steele added. Then, after Ohr confirmed “I’m still here and able to help as discussed,” Steele stressed that if Ohr was out at DOJ, he needed another “(Bureau?)” contact.

This exchange suggests Yates’ removal concerned Steele and left him worried that without Yates at the helm, Ohr’s continued role as a DOJ liaison for Steele was at risk, and that without Yates or Ohr, he would need to work directly with the FBI.

Was that because Yates approved of Ohr acting as a dossier courier for Steele and the FBI? If so, the Spygate scandal reaches into even higher echelons of the Deep State than previously known. Ohr has a pretty good incentive to come clean and expose anyone else at the DOJ (or in the Obama administration) involved in the decision to continue to use Steele as a source. Otherwise Ohr will hold sole responsibility for going rogue.

[maryrose]

Porch:
I agree.
The Wisconsin Dems just hate that Walker wins every time.
They will never forgive him for making their siege of the Capitol a punchline for the rest of America.
Then the successful recount infuriated them.

[James D.]

Rse @ 11:10

I read that whole Brookings piece. I feel unclean now.

[henry]

Porch, you have a point.

[Extraneus]

Btw, we've discussed the fact that the IG can subpoena DoJ employees, and speculated on that being a possible explanation for why it took so long to fire Strzok. But if that's true, it raises another question:

Why don't the perps just quit? Same for McCabe and Page. Why didn't they just quit when they knew the jig was up and they'd probably be fired after the IG was done with them?

There must be some kind of threat that kept them from resigning until their testimony wasn't needed anymore. I wonder what it was.

[James D.]

Look at South Africa today. Who would want to emulate that?

Lots of people, sadly. Who all think that their wokeness, good intentions and spotless progressive voting records will protect them when the mob runs out of deplorables to rob and/or kill.

They could ask all the good Communists Stalin shipped off to the gulags how that worked out, except they all rotted and died there.

[narciso79]

As usual, they are trying for a template employed abroad , in this case, the tragedy of Steven Lawrence in the UK.

[Miss Marple]

Extraneus,

I have wondered the same thing.0

[matt - deplore me if you must]

What amazes me is the silence by the media in commenting on McCabe and Strozk even needing defense funds.

We have two former top Justice Department officials going to Gobegme before anything has actually happened. Talk about signaling their guilt.

Their indictments and convictions in the court of public opinion should be crystal clear, and the scum say nothing.

[henry]

Deadbeat dad is more accurate. This guy hasn't worked in a decade.

CNBC @CNBC
3m

Democratic ironworker Randy Bryce aims to turn Paul Ryan's seat blue for the first time in more than 20 years.

[Momto2]

The Court has never been asked to take any other person’s faith into account in making a determination of dangerousness.

How about a dead boy, judge? Are you asked to take murder into consideration? How about plotting to murder?

[Captain Hate]

"MSNBC host Joe Scarborough thinks that Robert Mueller would beat President Trump in a landslide if they faced off in 2020."

That bulbous nosed goof is on a constant audition for the banjo playing retard if they ever remake Deliverance.

Five and a half hours before meeting up with KK.

[Tom R]

There must be some kind of threat that kept them from resigning until their testimony wasn't needed anymore. I wonder what it was.

Small fish cooperate to help take down the big fish in exchange for a lesser penalty.

[Captain Hate]

Why don't the perps just quit? Same for McCabe and Page. Why didn't they just quit when they knew the jig was up and they'd probably be fired after the IG was done with them?

You've obviously never, for lack of a more descriptive term, worked for the Feds.

[Porchlight]

Love the lost shoe - a Garrison specialty since 9/11/16.

[Captain Hate]

Also those rocket surgeons thought Mueller would save their worthless carcasses. It's really quite amusing laughing at those monkeys.

[rse]

Mom-are you familiar with this recent case in metro ATL? https://www.wftv.com/news/trending-now/mans-sentence-overturned-after-judge-accused-of-antiislamic-bias/802056156

Technically ss is also the 4th largest city in Ga.

Being muslim appears to now be a special status that immunizes against factual misconduct.

[Captain Hate]

Electing Keith X just illustrates what a lost cause Minnesota is, Porch's fond memories notwithstanding. Jesse Ventura, Franken and now this. And those were all statewide.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

If Rosenstein didn’t know about Ohr’s involvement, then he ought to be hopping mad about being deceived by Yates and others in the DOJ. I haven’t seen any sign of that anger.

[Extraneus]

Small fish cooperate to help take down the big fish in exchange for a lesser penalty.

Strzok was cooperating? McCabe? Maybe Page, and she's the only one who resigned.

[Extraneus]

Isn't she also the only one of the three without a GoFundMe?

[Old Lurker]

Frau "In a similar vein, my husband remarked, "They can only spend it once."

That right there being the difference between the Government and the People.

[Captain Hate]

Maybe I have a fatal soft spot for semi attractive skirts but Page is the only one of this cabal I want to emerge semi unscathed. I'm sure she'd claw my eyes out for that bit of poorly thought out leniency.

[Old Lurker]

LurkerSusies link headline: "How Bruce Ohr Could Implicate High-Ranking Obama Officials In Spygate"

The key word "could" makes it just more noise to me. Sorry Susie.

[Eye Doctor]

Did Rosenstein's wife Lisa Barsoomiam know about Ohr's involvement?

https://youtu.be/9Q0aXTM3dM0

[Extraneus]

From their actions since leaving the FBI, she seems like the only one who cooperated.

[WHIGS RETURN]

Tim Pawlenty stuck his finger in the wind,” Johnson said in his closing ad, which condemned Pawlenty’s criticism of Trump after the release of the Access Hollywood tape in October 2016. “I won’t panic when it matters most.”
When your party's presidential candidate confesses on tape to sexual assault, that's when "it matters most." Gotcha.

[Porchlight]

Cap'n, MN has disappointed in statewide races as we all know, but just in recent years the MN GOP has taken the state House by a healthy margin and tied up the state Senate. That's major traction.

Keith Ellison got a bunch of Twin Cities leftist votes among a crowded field. These were the most motivated Dem primary voters across the board. We will see if he can win statewide. I don't think it will be that easy.

[Eye Doctor]

Well at least Page has not set up a GoFundMe page yet.

[No surprises]

A new poll released today shows that a majority of Americans, 56 percent, think the president's public statements about the Russia probe are "mostly or completely false.”

[Momto2]

I had not heard about that case, rse. Apparently being Muslim means a get-out-of-jail-free card.

And just below your comment we read CH's comment about electing Keith Ellison. Just imagine if those charges came out about someone who was not a Muslim. Abusing women and killing your own child are no longer considered prosecutable offenses for some.

[Grifters R Us]

Back in March 2018, Franklin Foer wrote a piece for the Atlantic called The Plot Against America. You might have skipped right over it, confusing it with a thriller co-written by an ex-president and a famous novelist. But you would be wrong.

Foer’s piece is all about Paul Manafort, how he made his millions, how he lost his millions, his ties to government insiders in former soviet states, and how he eliminated ice from the menu at his daughter’s rehearsal dinner. Oh, and that stuff about how he coerced his wife into group sex? Yeah, there are hints and allegations that it might be true.

And then there’s this:

His work, the source of the status he cherished, had taken a devastating turn. For nearly a decade, he had counted primarily on a single client, albeit an exceedingly lucrative one. He’d been the chief political strategist to the man who became the president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, with whom he’d developed a highly personal relationship. Manafort would swim naked with his boss outside his banya, play tennis with him at his palace (“Of course, I let him win,” Manafort made it known), and generally serve as an arbiter of power in a vast country. One of his deputies, Rick Gates, once boasted to a group of Washington lobbyists, “You have to understand, we’ve been working in Ukraine a long time, and Paul has a whole separate shadow government structure … In every ministry, he has a guy.” Only a small handful of Americans—oil executives, Cold War spymasters—could claim to have ever amassed such influence in a foreign regime. The power had helped fill Manafort’s bank accounts; according to his recent indictment, he had tens of millions of dollars stashed in havens like Cyprus and the Grenadines.

Anyway, as I was reading it, I was reminded of Robert Mueller’s “speaking indictments” from earlier in the year. There was one about the Russian trolls. There was one about the ties of some agents of the GRU to the 2016 shenanigans. They were supposed to inform the public that there’s a story here, a narrative, that he is beginning to tell like Homer reciting in front of the fire about the muse singing about the man of twists and turns on a wine dark sea.

We may all be scratching our heads about what Manafort’s current trial regarding fraudulent bank loans have to do with the Trump campaign in 2016 and we may not find out exactly what the tie in is by the end of it. But I think Mueller might be using this case as another chapter in the story, a different kind of speaking indictment. There are connections here that run all over the place from Manafort. It’s vast and sleazy and I doubt that there will be a Penelope at the end of this tale but the destruction of the suitors is going to be riveting.

[narciso]

Someone at the althouse, described the distribution of votes in the Minnesota races.

[henry]

Newsbeat180l lq @Newsbeat1
4m

Great inspection system?
Shocking photo shows Genoa bridge 'crumbling' and 'caving in' a few weeks before it collapsed killing at least 38 people as victims' furious families and locals demand 'the guilty must pay'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6062911/Shocking-photo-shows-Genoa-bridge-crumbling-weeks-collapsed-killing-38-people.html

[Extraneus]

NYT’s Blow: Tape of Trump Using ‘N-Word’ ‘Might Actually Increase His Support’ from Supporters

“We would be insane if we kept questioning and saying this is a matter of opinion of whether he’s a racist or not,” Blow said. “He is.

He added, “I think that if you found the tape of him using the ‘n-word,’ it might actually increase his support among the people who support him.”

[Old Lurker]

"Elizabeth Warren to introduce the 'Accountable Capitalism Act'"

She must get the titles from Atlas Shrugged.

Can "Anti Dog eat Dog Rule" be far behind?

[Frau Krimi]

Agree about lurkersusie @ 1:27.

I hope Bruce Ohr sings/sang/has sung a lively tune. Another career bureaucrat who went to the dark side. WTH? For what reason?

[Captain Hate]

Porch, Minnesota, and particularly Minneapolis, will always be associated with stealing the Washington Senators like a bunch of avaricious lowlifes. As jimmyk has noted, my ability to hold a grudge is nearly infinite.

[Eye Doctor]

Keep in mind, going to the dark side is what got them these high ranking positions.

[narciso]

Good grief, hootie is trying to keep up with Sarah jeong too hard.

[Sue]

I think Peter Strzok didn't quit because he thought he was only going to be suspended. I think he was fired for lying to Congress, not his texts. I think Lisa Page turned on him during her testimony.

[BWAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAABWAAAAHAAAAAABWAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA]

Giuliani also told Bloomberg that Mueller should “write the damn report so we can see it and rebut it,” the website reported Wednesday...

“If he doesn’t get it done in the next two or three weeks we will just unload on him like a ton of bricks,” he reportedly said.

[Eye Doctor]

Sue

Do you think Stzrok will be indicted?

[Frau Krimi]

CH sez: "Five and a half hours before meeting up with KK."

East meets West. Without photos it didn't happen.

[BWAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAABWAAAAHAAAAAABWAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA]

He was fired for improper use of FBI resources. How's that for a pretext?

Is GUS really married to your daughter?

[Kevlar Kid]

re the threat to Strozk and McGerbil...

they're under threat if they fold under questioning. Page wasn't living in the first ring of the cabal as those two were. Strozk was the rock star who brought her along, imo.

the cabal is pretty certain they can wait out Trump and neutralize him politically if he's re-elected.

they also seem to be getting their way running out the clock.

those two jamokes are thoroughly insulated in this. the only "suffering" they'll undergo is having been timed out, and then not rehired inside the Beltway, running things as they are accustomed.

i have zero confidence that they'll do any time greater than what Martha Stewart did.

they'll become multi-millionaires, especially if our Champ goes down.

[Another Bob]

James D (from the last thread)...

It isn’t a matter of trusting the church, they’ve admitted covering up.

My problem is use of government power to puke on. Why a grand jury? Are they going to indict dead priests?

It seems like a simple attack on the institution. Gramsci. And maybe as KK suggests, a battle space prep for other accusations to come.

[Another Bob]

Sign. Puke > pile.

[Another Bob]

Sigh. Sign > sigh.

I hate phone keyboards worse than iPad keyboards.

[Appalled]

Captain:

Nothing beats the theft of the Browns. I mean, Baltimore did it twice, for gosh sakes...And that zombie team that was reanimated in Cleveland is salt in the wound...

[Old Lurker]

Puke works fine A-Bob.

[Old Lurker]

"Giuliani also told Bloomberg that Mueller should “write the damn report so we can see it and rebut it,” the website reported Wednesday..."

I thought Clarice said that Mueller can only report to the DAG? "Reporting to the public" is not his option?

[Captain Hate]

Nothing beats the theft of the Browns.

Modell was grifter trash. Frankly I was glad to see him revealed and gone.

[James D.]

AB @ 12:41

I get that. And I agree.

But this is one of those situations where I can't say that the Catholic Church as an institution (and I was raised Catholic and haven't lost my beliefs) doesn't deserve to be attacked.

It's not just individual priests, it was a decades-long, active and aggressive cover-up, with Bishops and Archbishops knowingly and uncaringly endangering children, shuffling around known pedophile priests, and all the rest of it.

And the current leaders of the church who oversaw this in the U.S. are mostly still around, and there has never been a true reckoning at the highest levels, where it needs to happen.

So, yes, the motives behind this prosecution are almost certainly dishonest and evil, but I can't stand behind the church in this anyway.

But let's have the same kind of investigation against other organizations (government, Hollywood, etc etc etc) which are equally guilty and equally due a reckoning.

[Extraneus]

They should have allowed priests to marry centuries ago. It was always a recipe for abuse.