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September 27, 2018

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daddy

Local papers Top Headline:

Murkowski joins Flake in calling for FBI investigation of sexual assault allegation against Kavanaugh

Ecstatic Supporters outside Lisa's Anchorage office.

Porchlight

Investigations are where scandals go to die.

So Sessions is a genius for recusing, then, so Trump/Russia could advance to special counsel where Mueller would just let it die? ;)

paul kersey

Tk looks at things strictly on the constitutional level, and questions of liberty, tom r, looks at it through the view of how bureaucracies which are often at odds with the former inoperative.

On balance I lean more in the former direction, bureaucracy gave us the pig headed notion to land the giron in the most inhospitable spot since the rapist river, and the Taylor report excused this fustercluck, my distant cousin was so betrayed he ended his life over that frustration nearly 30 years later.

mike in houston

Why do I think that this BS move on Flake's part is a final middle finger to Trump by John McCain. I would love to see some AZ polls on Flake's position

anonamom

Tom, re: 2:56.
You betcha buddy, if you quit responding to any and everything TK sends your way, things around here will improve.
And I doubt anyone will think less of you for it. ;-)

Old Lurker

Boris, now that it has left the committee, then any of the other squishes can expand upon Flake's "just look at Ford for seven days" plan as soon as more rats show their noses. If Mitch does not have the votes, this will never end, and they can tag team with those four till hell freezes over. And now that Mitch has been caught out on his previous promise that he has the votes, hard to see how he plays that card again. So unless McConnell has something we don't know about, this is not good.

Marlene

Manchin is also agreeing to a delay,Howie Carr just said.

Clarice Feldman

If he goes on Court a bit later, it may not be such a big deal: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/24/supreme-court-set-to-begin-new-term-with-empty-seat-amid-kavanaugh-uncertainty.html

Bela1

Jimmy, Joan, I didn't see you complaining...I read y'all and enjoy so many of your posts... I can relate to how you feel about being attached too Joan...compared to this witch we witnessed yesterday...how convenient her memory lapses and laughter. I just didn't have time to respond.
Please note that I laugh, I cry, I learn & explore JOM...FE..I am absolutely totally hooked on Joe Bonnamassa! I'm proud to say that I can tolerate some of Rich's fav Korn music too. I laugh out loud over how Daddy thinks, what Beasts or Gus might say... I can't type for a hill of beans on a small IPhone... I make speeling/grammahical errors... but, that's how I roll...love this place & I love you all...well most all...Eye Doc is what my dad would call a real annoying bbuster... but you're all family IMHO. It'll be another interesting week but I hope the truth comes to light.

anonamom

Beasts, you crack me up!!

Wish I'd had time to come lay eyes on you wedding week. ;-)

(I too started my morning with Lindsey Graham ON FIRE)

paul kersey

Rapido river, they held up general Clark's post for NATO envoy over there.

JM Hanes

Well, I have zero interest in sports, so maybe we could assign the folks who who want to talk coaches and players a dead thread for them to duke things out, so to speak. Maybe the folks who discuss the latest trends in dieting could go with them.

Extraneus

Mitch will have more votes after the midterm election, and Collins & Murkowski will be far less powerful. This is their last chance to make some sort of deal.

Extraneus

And Flake will be gone.

Extraneus

As will Manchin.

Eye Doctor .

From a Michael Savage tweet ...

WHO IS DR BLASEY FORD?

WELL, BESIDES BEING A “PROFESSOR” AT THE OFF BRAND UNIVERSITY, SHE ALSO WORKS AT A MAJOR UNIVERSITY DOWN THE STREET FROM PALO ALTO. SHE JUST SO HAPPENS TO HEAD UP THE CIA UNDERGRADUATE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY.

CHRISTINE BLASEY’S BROTHER, RALPH THE THIRD, USED TO WORK FOR THE INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM OF BAKER, HOSTETLER. THE FIRM CREATED FUSION GPS, THE COMPANY WHO WROTE THE RUSSIAN “DOSSIER”. THEY LATER ADMITTED IT WAS ONLY A COLLECTION OF FIELD INTERVIEWS.

BAKER HOSTETLER IS LOCATED IN THE SAME BUILDING WHERE THE CIA OPERATES THREE COMPANIES CALLED:
RED COATS INC.
ADMIRAL SECURITY SERVICES AND
DATAWATCH
THEY ARE OPERATED BY RALPH BLASEY II. HE IS THE FATHER OF CHRISTINE AND RALPH III.

CHRISTINE AND RALPH III’S GRANDFATHER WAS NICHOLAS DEAK. FORMER CIA DIRECTOR WILLIAM CASEY ACKNOWLEDGED DEAK’S DECADES OF SERVICE TO THE CIA.

paul kersey

But will mcsally necessarily replace, will blackburn, this is vekakte.

maryrose

Manchin may actually realize the mortal peril he is in and vote yes.
We need Repubs in West Virginia to encourage their former governor to do the right thing and uphold the lifelong rule of innocent until proven guilty.Also if your state overwhelmingly voted for President you owe it to your constituents to vote for the SC judges promoted by the President they elected.
For example Heitkampf should have announced her support for Kavanaugh
As well as Tester, McCaskillDonnelly.
They are voting against their constituents.
Why should they be re- elected if they only represent themselves and not their state’s voters?

Extraneus

Have we seen any polling on Kavanaugh? I think most decent people were thoroughly repulsed by the Democrats yesterday and throughout the hearings.

lurkersusie

Not sure what this means

Ali Rogin
Ali Rogin
@AliABCNews
.
@SenJohnKennedy
: “A statement’s going to be made. We’ve reached an accord.”

Extraneus

And if not, well, buy more ammo.

Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma

They haven't thought this through...

Blasey Ford has yearbooks showing drunken parties and pics that are very not a good look for her including the claim of 64? conquests in High School.

302s can't be called before a committee and get spun although the MSM will give it the old sorority try. Their readers will get to see the report for themselves and the supporting evidence.

maryrose

Collins and Murkowski meeting with McConnell right now.

GUS

So much for sssshhhtrong wymyn, MurCUCKski is hiding behind FLAKES' skirt

Pinandpuller

Janet 12:06 PM

Rush calls them "Seminar Callers" but the Latin root is seminarium and I think we all know where that leads.

Another Bob

I told you people the hearing was a win for the dems because it extended the game. Here we go.

Look for another few women to be trotted out. Watch the previously-established stories change. Watch for “unfair to ask FBI to do a thorough job on all of this in one week”, etc. etc.

Tom R

I think most decent people were thoroughly repulsed by the Democrats yesterday and throughout the hearings.

Agreed which is why I said Kavanaugh's reputation wasn't destroyed and if anything is improved, at least among non-Progtard citizens.

Beasts of England

It sounds as if the request for an additional FBI investigation was a red herring. They have no leverage - other than the actual vote - if McConnell wants to bring it.

Beasts of England

Thanks, anonamom!! Hope to make your acquaintance in person one day... :)

Clarice Feldman

Michael Savage is full of it--I doubt the CIA connection has anything to do with this, and her brother left the firm years before GPS was even formed. I HATE when people keep passing around garbage. Stick to what is established or defensible on good research.

Old Lurker

Agree, A-Bob.

Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma

Personally, I can't wait to find out why of her family, only her HUSBAND'S family has defended her. The 'friends and acquaintances' 302s should be... interesting.

Captain Hate

Maybe the FBI should investigate who leaked Ford's letter and who doxxed the GOP since the Chinese spy employing whore is so anxious for them to be investigating Senate business.

Get on it, Sleepy Jeff; chop chop!

Old Lurker

This I did not know, Ext "Mitch will have more votes after the midterm election,"

Clarice Feldman

Her parents did NOT defend her nor did her brother.At one point her husband said she had been estranged from her parents because of differing political beliefs and because she thought they had not given her the respect she deserved because of her sex.

fdcol63 🇺🇸

Posted by: Eye Doctor . | September 28, 2018 at 03:21 PM

Watch it, Eye Doctor! You'll be flagged by FB, Twitter, Google, YouTube, et al, as a supporter of Alex Jones and InfoWars! LOL

anonamom

Agree steph---what's up when your momma and daddy and brothers aren't with you???

Another Bob

Beasts, isn’t that exactly the leverage being used?

GUS

Clarice, I agree, but what really pisses me off is MARTY using my ALL CAPS schtick without permission.

Unless he just had cataract surgery.

maryrose

Only looking at the ones already mentioned at the hearing.
No new ones per Flake.

Porchlight

Flake could barely suppress a laugh when he suggested the FBI investigation would be "short."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pz49Rh7hQw

But then look at his face after Grassley gaveled to adjourn. Haha.

paul kersey

Thomas confirmed on Oct q8th, but still i don't like the open ended nature of this.

maryrose

Coons and Feinstein got to Murkowski and Flake.
We have photo proof.

Miss Marple (the real one)

Another Bob is right. I was alerted to this by ChiTown Lurker:

BOMBSHELL: Democrat Chris Coons, who just struck a last second deal with Jeff Flake, gave away the Democrats entire strategy ALL ALONG.

When pressed on the length of FBI investigation Coons said “I don’t control if other allegations come forward.”

Unbelievable. pic.twitter.com/AW79hgJTJ0

— Jack Murphy (@RealJack) September 28, 2018

Video at link.

Extraneus

Collins and Murkowski meeting with McConnell right now.

I'm surprised they're not doing that separately. How can two dirty deals be made in a 3-way meeting?

Tom R

Blasey Ford has yearbooks showing drunken parties and pics that are very not a good look for her including the claim of 64? conquests in High School.

I'm about the same age as Kavanaugh and Blasey Ford. My Alabama high school yearbooks (we called them annuals) from the early 1980s consisted of student pictures, athletic team pictures, club pictures and action shots of students participating in school events. What kind of high school yearbook puts in pictures of the drunk students at parties? Is the term "yearbook" actually referring to one of her personal scrapbooks?

daddy

Let my transcribe Katherine Herridge and see what we learn from her of there is an FBI Investigation:

Host Trace gallegher: What role would exactly or could the the FBI play in all of this, Katherine?

Katherine Herridge: Well Trace the FBI does 2 types of Investigations. (1) is a Criminal Investigation, the other (2)is a Background Check. Under this scenario they would have to get a request from the Agency that put the nomination forward, so the White House or the President or the General Counsel, directing the FBI to re-engage and conduct additional interviews with known witnesses in this particular case. The second kind of Investigation is a Criminal Investigation. Based on the fact-pattern here there just isn't grounds for the FBI to get involved because the Alleged Sexual Assault would really fall within the parameters of a State Crime. The FBI would only get involved if there was evidence of a Federal crime, for example "hold trafficking"---taking a minor across State Lines which is not alleged here.

anonamom

The other thing that is absolutely UNBELIEVABLE is that someone who had a really tough time in college, chose to study psychology, and is female, had not told ANYBODY about this "traumatic" experience in the decades before age 45.

Any ONE of those things would have caused her to share her story, right ladies?

I get that a girl who was only 15 and was (disobeying her parents by being at) a house with boys without parents, drinking, might not run home* and tell mommy and daddy what happened, since there was actually no physical harm---but by the time she was in college, the NORMAL girl thing would be to share that, for sure.

DEFINITELY in the course of her psych studies.

* noting here that home was six miles away, so there was no running involved...

paul kersey

Not according to the times, which has obliquely referred to them:


http://scotusblog.com/2018/09/scotus-map-september-2018-and-one-notable-event-from-the-end-of-august

Old Lurker

Maryrose "Only looking at the ones already mentioned at the hearing.
No new ones per Flake."

See my 3:16

JM Hanes

Porchlight:

"But then look at his face after Grassley gaveled to adjourn."

LOL! And not just his face. A great moment in parliamentary procedure!

Michael (fpa P4F) ... Stop the Witch Hunt - Stop the Coup !

at least we know when the next 'victim' will show up - around noon Thursday.
Posted by: pj | September 28, 2018 at 02:00 PM

pj - Nice to see you post again.

I think the next 'victims' claims start coming forward later today, or tomorrow. That gives the Sunday shows new material (new allegations of wrongdoing by Kavanaugh) that will be extensively covered. Then there can be new allegations every day for the entirety of next week.

It also means that all of the existing allegations will be re-hashed in their totality, and every criticism of Kavanaugh will be repeated ad nauseum for the next week.

This is exactly what the Dems only hoped to achieve - and that sleazy Flake handed it to them on a silver platter.

Flake is effectively rewarding the Dems for having sandbagged the Reps by holding onto the CBF letter until *after* the hearings ended - thereby precluding the very FBI investigation they are calling for now.

What a despicable tool. Flake would have been shot for this during an earlier era in our history.


P.S.: I think it means they will *also* investigate all of the "new" info Coons said he had received re Kavanaugh allegedly lying during his testimony yesterday.

Porchlight

TomR, in Kavanaugh's statement yesterday he talked about his senior yearbook. He said they tried to make it into a combination of Animal House, Caddyshack, and Fast Times at Ridgemont High, all recent movies at the time. In other words, they tried to portray themselves as party animals up to a lot of sexual escapades.

He seemed genuinely upset and regretful about the "Renate Alumnius" comment, because I think that may have cost him his friendship with the named women. He said that no matter what happened with the nomination, he hoped to repair that relationship.

I'm guessing Holton-Arms' yearbook was the girls' school equivalent.

Captain Hate

Let's hear it for the GOP Big Tent!

GUS

IF.......You give an inch to the FULL COMMIE, they will roll right over you.

What kind of fucking moron, doesn't understand what is going on here????

The LEFT as a whole is evil or stupid. The CLOWNS that follow the STALINISTS are dumber than kitty litter.

Miss Marple (the real one)


zerohedge
‏ @zerohedge
2m2 minutes ago

CORNYN SAYS REPUBLICANS AGREE TO ONE-WEEK KAVANAUGH FBI PROBE

Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma

I'm surprised they're not doing that separately. How can two dirty deals be made in a 3-way meeting?

#NAFTA #TPP

Porchlight

And who is to order this FBI probe that Cornyn says Republicans agree to?

JM Hanes

"at least among non-Progtard citizens."

That's one whale of a qualifier.

paul kersey

If flake were a skrull would he behave any differently

boris

"See my 3:16"

McConnell can offer a strictly time and scope limited FBI check and based on what Flake has already said he would have to agree or truly be the Flakey Flake of Flakeville.

DCSCA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_DNnCUVnoU

'Boofing' be 'Bart Farts,' eh.

'Have another drink it'll make you feel better; have another drink and you'll feel alright...' - The Kinks

Clarice Feldman

Thanks, daddy.Would be fun if the WH authorized a criminal check of Ford--how the WaPo got the letter? How her lawyers were engaged? what efforts she made to suborn perjury? Her contacts with DiFi's staffers..The marriage counselor's records. There's a lot there you know.

GUS

They've just showed the FULL COMMIE that they can be manipulated.

Please name me 1 Democrat that you would trust.

As for the year books. If the PRIVATE SCHOOL allows this, my kid would not go there.

Eye Doctor .

Clarice

Who do you think put Ford's story together for her?

Tom R

Porch @ 3:43,

Thanks for the clarification. I was busy most of yesterday and relied on the comments here plus the video highlights of the testimony so I missed that part.

Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma

This is one roller coaster I DON'T WANT TO RIDE!!!!

daddy

Host Trace: ...We heard again and again that the FBI does not reach conclusions. Now would that shift in this Investigation? Would they change that? Would they maybe reach conclusions, or is that just out of bounds?

katherine Kerridge: I have to say that I think it is somewhat out of bounds. The rules and procedures are very straight forward. In a case like this with a Background Check, they gather the information, they speak to the witnesses, as it went forward here they would speak to the Witnesses who had first hand knowledge of the alleged incident, and others who Dr Ford said were present but have since said they have no recollection of the incident. The FBI would document those interviews in what are called 302's. These are interview summaries. they are not transcripts, and that would be provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee and it's really the Committee's role to take that information. The FBI makes no judgements, reaches no conclusions. Senate Investigators would have to pick-up those leads, do follow-up if they so choose, and then they get into the advise and consent, whether they consent, based on the evidence in the Background Check, to move the Nomination forward.
==================

Me: so it goes back to the Judiciary Committee. Sounds like this could and will be dragged out forever.

henry

Tom R, on the Yearbooks. Forget it. It's Chinatown Acela Corridor. Private schools did that stuff.

Miss Marple (the real one)

Boy, what a whirlwind we are in!

Plus, I will have to get up early tomorrow in order to get my daughter to the airport for her flight to Mexico to get married.

My son spoke extensively to him (my so is fluent in Spanish) and he was very sincere in loving my daughter and protecting her, and son says he thinks this is ok. I also spoke to him, but it is hard to judge with a foreign accent, at least for me.

So, this is a done deal and I would appreciate prayers for both her safety and happiness.

Eye Doctor .

Mark Judge working at Safeway came from his book!

Thomas Collins

If delay is granted, it means Mitch doesn't have the votes. FBI will not provide cover for the cowards. FBI will simply say no corroboration. That's where we are now.

I would say the odds on Kavanaugh being confirmed are even at best. Squishes gonna squish.

Tom R

That's one whale of a qualifier.

Indeed. It includes everyone who is decent, reasonable, fair-minded and patriotic. Probably some other positive character traits you could include as well.

paul kersey

Wonderful miss marple.

Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma

https://twitter.com/bigleaguepol/status/1045755099392430080

Flake got PLAYED. or intimidated...

Extraneus

It's already voted out of committee. I don't see how the committee gets another say in the matter.

maryrose

Daddy:
I am guessing one week and then the vote.
Must be done in the first week of October.
It will force Senators to remain or keep returning to vote which will mess up the Dems ability to campaign.I remain positive this will happen soon.
I will not watch day to day coverage.
Cover for Dems to vote yes after the week concludes.

Beasts of England

I'll be shocked if Mitch agrees to an FBI investigation. I have been shocked before...

jimmyk

i'd be shocked if Horowitz released anything decisive before November.

Yes, because if he somehow is "unable" to get the report done by the end of September, releasing it in October would be seen as influencing the election.

Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma

BTW I'm hearing that the doxxing of republicans has been traced back to Maxine Waters offices..

Eye Doctor .

Ford's friend Leland Keyser needs to be grilled

maryrose

Judge will be interviewed.
He has agreed to it.

Beasts of England

I think you're right, Extraneus - anything from here would have to be on the full senate.

paul kersey

In other news:


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44206372

henry

Stephanie, Mad Maxine? They are so predictable.

maryrose

Jimmyk:
If Comey can interfere with an election than so can Horowitz.
It is imperative that this information get out before the election.
If not Horowitz then President Trump.
I can’t stress this enough.

daddy

Trace Gallagher: Can you give us a big picture context for this Katherine, for the FBI, for Director Wray?

Katherine Herridge: Well for the FBI and for Director Wray I think unfortunately for them they are right in the middle of another political storm which is something they are trying to turn the page on after the Clinton E-Mails and to a certain extent the Russia Investigation. What we have heard privately and have heard publicly from FBI Director Christopher Wray is that he feels very strongly that the Bureau gets in trouble when they color outside the lines and they don't follow the rules and procedures---specifically that was the case with Director Comey who elected to make public statements about the Clinton E-Mail case and decisions about whether to proceed with the prosecution which really fell to his boss, the Attorney General Loretta Lynch, so the FBI is once again in the center of a political storm which I would argue they don't want to be in the center of, and Director Wray has made it very clear that the Bureau is really apt to follow the rules and procedures and not stray from those rules and procedures because of the controversy it has created in the last 18 months.

Extraneus

Btw, I said Dr. Fraud should have been slimed from the get-go. Still do.

Any rich dudes offering rewards to anyone she's ever had sex with? Does she have any interesting preferences? Was she reluctant to have her mouth covered or to be on the bottom?

War is war, and even innocent people get killed in wars. The $1M GoFundMe girl is far from innocent in this one.

Thomas Collins

Look for several new rape on boat type stories, which Dems will demand be investigated. The accusers will be coming out of the woodwork. False statements to FBI? The accusers may never talk to FBI. The idea will be to delay and delay until nomination is withdrawn.

mike in houston

Here is a nice piece from one of Kav's friends
http://dailycaller.com/2018/09/28/brett-kavanaugh-high-school-classmate-cnn/

“The women we hung out with in those days were not to be trifled with them. You don’t trifle with them now. You didn’t trifle with them then. If you upset one of them, you upset them all and you’re done,” Kane concluded.

lurkersusie

True

Lee Smith
@LeeSmithDC
Interesting look for Dems going into mid-terms: Party of no due process, guilty until proven innocent, and if we have no evidence showing your guilt, we’ll stick the FBI on you and manufacture some. It’s the Party of the Dossier.

fdcol63 🇺🇸

" ... he would have to agree or truly be the Flakey Flake of Flakeville ..."

That's still in doubt for some?

Old Lurker

Boris "McConnell can offer a strictly time and scope limited FBI check and based on what Flake has already said he would have to agree or truly be the Flakey Flake of Flakeville."

You are missing my point. Flake himself might agree, but then what if, based on new discoveries during that week, Collins and Murkowski and X and Y insist on yet another week or month to check into THEM? And then repeat. It is not as if Flake is holding proxies from the other squishes, for heaven's sake.

What prevents that?

Another Bob

LS, makes no difference. There are enough sheep on the left who just don’t care.convinced of their rightness, ends justify means.

Dave (in MA)
including the claim of 64? conquests in High School
Shut The Front Door!
lurkersusie

I wonder how Ford will do when interviewed by
the FBI? She was treated with kid gloves yesterday.

rse

Anyone really trust the government in such a role?

"When the attention-maximizing algorithms that serve as the editors of our
political culture generate negative externalities for the public—such as
filter bubbles that amplify disinformation and atomize the polity into opposed clusters
—it is the role of government to act on behalf of society to reverse or contain the
damage. This can happen in a variety of ways. We can make the criteria of the
content selection—the aforementioned editing function—more visible to the user
by stipulating that the platform’s algorithms be made transparent to the public.

We can also limit the amount of data the companies may process in order to blunt
the precision of those filtering algorithms and protect people from being segmented into self-reinforcing, misinformed audiences by requiring more stringent privacy policies."

daddy

I may be wrong, but having just carefully transcribed Katehrine Herridge’s comments, I do not think there is any way in the world this gets done within one week,and even if it does the findings go back to the Judiciary Committee and it's Investigators for more Hearings and delays and investigations from that despicable gaggle and then they have another one about should it be voted on to go to the full Senate for the overall vote.

IMHO this is the greatest delay ploy in the world. It all starts all over again.

So I may be deadly wrong but it sure looks to me like we are not even back at square one---instead it is like that children game Chutes and Ladders and we just fell down a chute that puts us so places back.

I am happy to be proven wrong and that this is actually 4-D chess and not Chutes and Ladders.

Helluva job, Lisa.

Old Lurker

Maryrose "Must be done in the first week of October. It will force Senators to remain or keep returning to vote..."

No it doesn't.

and

No it doesn't.

Why do you think it does?

Dave (in MA)
I do not think there is any way in the world this gets done within one week
That depends on whether they'll be able to hire some new victims over the weekend.

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