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September 30, 2018


matt - deplore me if you must

good morning!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Good morning, matt and Tom.

Frau Steingehirn

Hi, matt! How are things in the canyon?

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

From the last thread;
Do you mean this John Adams quote, jimmyk?

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

Miss Marple (the real one)

Geraldo Rivera
‏Verified account @GeraldoRivera
14m14 minutes ago

Tone of Sunday morning shows unfairly negative to @realDonaldTrump who 1-praised as effective & believable testimony of #DrChristineFord & 2-allowed an expanded/extended FBI probe of her allegations vs #JudgeKavanaugh. Critics don’t want process or truth, they want surrender.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Another great quote from Adams;

“Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either [aristocracy or monarchy]. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.”


Grassley-SJC: “Committee investigators have actively pursued a number of tips the committee has received regarding the nomination of Judge Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, though the committee has not been able to substantiate any allegations of wrongdoing by Kavanaugh,” the statement continued. “One tip was referred to the committee by staff for Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI). While Whitehouse referred the accuser to a reporter, the committee took the claim seriously and questioned Judge Kavanaugh about the allegations under penalty of felony.”

“Judge Kavanaugh denied any misconduct,” the statement said. “After the transcripts of that interview became public, the individual recanted the claims on a social media post.”


Greetings earthlings.


Thanks, Iggy, the first Adams quote was probably the one I had in mind. Though I'm sure others have made similar points.

Thomas Collins

I am going to repeat a request for counting help that I made at the end of the prior thread: Doesn't Flake need at least one other squish compadre to delay or derail the Kavanaugh nomination? Isn't it likely that Murkowski or Collins, or both, are also in on this? Yet, the article I have read mention only Flake.

Frau Steingehirn

Pres. Trump's tweet mentioned the FBI investigation of "Judge Kavanaugh" and no mention of Christine Ford by name. I hope that the background investigation will be on both.

Jim Eagle


According to reports, Murkowski & Collins met with McConnell, and stated if the FBI report came back clean or neutral they would vote for Kav. Or, did I imagine that?


Interesting note to TJ’s quote about refreshing the “tree of liberty” that it requires the blood of patriots and tyrants...

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Pretty cool;
Lockheed/Martin's compact fusion project.

This concept uses a high fraction of the magnetic field pressure, or all of its potential, so we can make our devices 10 times smaller than previous concepts. That means we can replace a device that must be housed in a large building with one that can fit on the back of a truck.

So they're going to replace a large building sized boat anchor that produces no net energy with a truck sized anchor that produces no energy. Why do I suspect the taxpayers are funding this?


Doooooo you meeeeeeannnnn SuuuuuuuuSan CohhhhhLins Jack?

JM Hanes

jimmyk & Ignatz:

Or this from Benjamin Franklin:

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.
Or Samuel Adams:
Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend to the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who … will not suffer a man to be chosen into any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man.
The critical role of civic virtue is a concept that almost all the Founders, steeped in classical, not just enlightenment, philosophy as many of them were, have probably opined on at one point or another. Even Epicurus' much misunderstood promotion of happiness was based on the concept of happiness as a product of virtuous living -- which might also be relevant to it's use in the Declaration of Independence.

Miss Marple (the real one)

The woman who wrote this thread ia a 25-year law clerk on he 7th Circuit, an adjunct law professor at Notre Dame, and has writte for The Federalist and National Review.

She does an admirable job in dissecting Ford's testimony and demonstrating why her story kept changing, also proving that she lied.


Frau Steingehirn

TC - Flake is on the way out and can burn any bridge he has left. The ladies want to hold on to their jobs (lotsa lady perks- the Congressional Pharmacy!-- and may be less tempted to take on the snapping turtle. Just a thought.
Those hangers may have made an impression on Collins, however, and Lisa has only Dianne Feinstein to fear.

DiFi looks like an extra in a silent German horror film . I'm not making this up.


They're tapping into that $700B, Ig. Gotta have a cool website to get the real bucks.


Maybe Rip Van Sessions is investigating CHI-FI.

Old Lurker

JMH, on the other thread I mentioned that the link between virtue and a well ordered happy society was actively discussed by Socrates and Plato and long thereafter. By the time our Founders were thinking about it, it was taken as granted by virtually all of them. I really don't think we would survive long if we lost our ties to virtue.

Old Lurker

I = They didn't think...


Here's a good Sunday read:



She looks like the one who tells the underlings how to whip the tied-down prisoners, Frau.

Dr. Weevil

TC (12:15pm):
Last I heard, Manchin was a Yes on Kavanaugh, so Flake needs two other Republicans to flake out. If it's just Flake and one other, that leaves 49 Republicans + Manchin + VP Pence = 51-50 approval.
That should be enough, barring sudden illness preventing one of the Yeses from voting. (I'm too lazy to check, but I believe the other Alaska senator had an emergency appendectomy last week.) Of course, that kind of thing affects both parties, and the Republican leadership should be able to postpone a vote until all its members are able to be present, so not a major concern unless one of the Yeses actually dies.


Lyle, all that is missing is the blood of tyrants.

JM Hanes

Old Lurker:

I just went back to close out the last thread, and say your comment there. I had to smile, after our conversation yesterday.


So an organizational committee headed by the former?? Spokesman of the Clinton foundation and staffer by at least one Feinstein and Obama staffer that is demand justice, Por seguro (shirley) that's not partisan.

Frau Steingehirn

EXT - Lisa = tied-down prisoner

I'm sure more than one day was needed to tart up Prof. Hippocampus. Here she was sporting her pink pussy brain hat at this year's scientists against Trump march.

What's with the stethoscope? Where are the black brainy glasses?


DiFi looks like an extra in a silent German horror film . I'm not making this up.

Yes, Frau ~ Or a member of the coven.


"[They didn't think] we would survive long if we lost our ties to virtue"

A premise now in the process of being proven true or false in our very interesting lifetime.


So true, henry. So true.

Frau Steingehirn

Momto2 - I keep seeing the photo of Feinstein pinning Lisa M. in the hallway niche. Body language is not healthy on either female.


Thank you, MM for the 12:25 link. Another example of great research work by non-journalists.

SO many discrepancies just scream out at me. Ex: she remembered which door she and her mom used when entering a Safeway store 35 years ago but cannot remember whose house she was at when this traumatic "event" occurred, how she got there or how she got home. But those Safeway doors...YES!

I'm sorry to sound callous but all of these statements by Republicans - "she's a victim, too" and "something happened it just wasn't him" - I don't believe ANY of it. I think it is all 100% lies cooked up and served up on schedule by ChiFi and her cohorts.

JM Hanes

Kellyanne Conway with Jake Tapper on CNN this am:

'I feel very empathetic, frankly, for victims of sexual assault and sexual harassment and rape. I'm a victim of sexual assault. I don't expect Judge Kavanaugh or Jake Tapper or Jeff Flake or anybody to be held responsible for that,' she said, clearing her throat and pausing to take a breath.

'You have to be responsible for your own conduct,' she told CNN's Jake Tapper on 'State of the Union.'

She also showed sympathy for the victims of sexual assault who confronted Republican Sen. Jeff Flake in an elevator on Friday, which he cited as part of the reason he asked for an FBI investigation into the allegations against Kavanaugh.

'I want those women who were sexually assaulted and confronting Jeff Flake, god bless them, but go blame the perpetrator. That's who is responsible for out [sic] sexual assaults - the people who commit them,' Conway said.

I loved this pushback:

[Tapper] went on to ask her about President Donald Trump, who has allegations of assault against him, but Conway warned him not to go there.

'You work for a president who said all the women who have accused him are lying...,' Tapper began.

Conway interrupted him: 'Don't conflate that with this and certainly don't conflate it with what happened to me. It would be a huge mistake Jake. Let's not do it. Don't always bring Trump into everything that happens in this universe. That's mistake number one.'

She's a real trooper.



It came up yesterday that at the time of the supposed encounter, Safeway only had one door.


But, Jane - She *remembers* she and her mom went in separate doors and she must be believed! Ha!


I don't understand going in the Safeway by different doors. That is nonsensical.


Is that Ford in the 12:48 pic? Doesns't really look like her. But she was widely reported to have worn the pink 'brain' pussy hat to a "March for Science."

The Empty Throne

If youre not on the table, you're on the menu America

Miss Marple (the real one)

No one asked her why she said "Hello" to Mark Judge in the Safeway, either.

Seems to me she would have headed AWAY from him without speaking.

The Empty Throne

Just like the financial collapse of 2008 they chided Obama for not cleaning up idle #1 they created in two weeks, so the Noveau Deal Dems will be criticized for not reversing Trumpian idiocy fast enough for them.


Frau at 12:48-that also does not look like a person who uses a little girl voice.

I found the part of the video I linked yesterday from maggies farm where the body language analyst said her eyes do not indicate she is using visual memory even though she is supposedly discussing physical events she remembers to be quite pertinent. Red did not believe lawyers look for that until I explained to her that some of the family friends she has known all her life make great livings looking for just that in witnesses and jury members.

JM Hanes

Princess Charlene of Monaco:

 photo Princess Charlene_zpsruxxtmvz.jpg

Proving the even royalty make mistakes.

The Empty Throne

Rumps changed their 'empty chair' into an empty throne....and they're lovin' it.

Miss Marple (the real one)

Most grocery store of that era had ONE entrance, and in door side by side with an out door.

They were not the grand edifices like my current Kroger, which has an entry atrium with an entrance which puts you into the grocery area (produce and flowers) and another on the opposite side which heads you towards the pharmacy and office.

Nope. Just the in and out doors side by side, with a delivery entrance in the back.
That was it.

The Empty Throne

Remember..Obama sent the Iranians their own money on pallets.😎

Trump Turgidity

He was painting himself as a martyr for that maleness, and he was using beer — along with weight lifting, football, flatulence jokes and what he mendaciously insisted were inoffensive yearbook high jinks — to do it. Beer was his brand, and he was proud of it.

Beer was his bid, and he was bald with it. He was telling the Bud, Coors, Corona and Heineken drinkers of male America and Middle America that, yes, the coastal chardonnay types and pinot noir liberals were coming for them and were not fond of such hallowed traditions as tailgate parties, fraternities and drinking games.

No, these jokeless and joyless enemies saw those traditions as part of what Senator Cory Booker, the New Jersey Democrat, would subsequently refer to as a “toxic culture” and “pernicious patriarchy.” So Kavanaugh was going to stand up for beer. He was going to stand with its fans, in the hope that they would stand with him.

It was happy-hour identity politics, a sad hour for the country and probably inevitable, given the trajectory that Kavanaugh’s nomination had taken. Like so many other battles in an age of turbocharged partisanship, it was about more than the events in dispute and the individuals in conflict..

Dorothy Jane

I read that the Safeway was an Albertsons back then. I think if that is the case she would have remembered it as an Albertsons.

pagar, a bacon, ham and sausage supporter


"At least in Missouri, Democratic tactics against Kavanaugh may be backfiring:"

Thank God!

Miss Marple (the real one)

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
28m28 minutes ago

Like many, I don’t watch Saturday Night Live (even though I past hosted it) - no longer funny, no talent or charm. It is just a political ad for the Dems. Word is that Kanye West, who put on a MAGA hat after the show (despite being told “no”), was great. He’s leading the charge!

Thomas Collins

Thanks for your thoughts on counting, JiB and Frau and Dr. Weevil. I hope the count is not close, but I would take Flake and Murkowski voting nay, Manchin voting yea, with Pence breaking the tie. In other words, West Virginia giving the finger to the smearers.

Thomas Collins

Speaking of counting, re the Missouri polls: What do you think of Senator McCaskill's dropping numbers, Senator Manchin?


I think that the woman in that photo is someone else, Frau, not Ford. We haven't seen the pussy hat photos of Ford that are rumored to be on her now-scrubbed social media.

Dickly Cheney

Obummer left Iraq and that had nothing to do with Dubyas evacuation plan.

Dickly Cheney

Obummer didnt even use the 2nd Safeway exit.

Thomas Collins

To the JOM IT Committee: How difficult is it to unscrub scrubbed Facebook walls?


Looking at the size of that rally last night, I would say it is now gut check time for Manchin. Does he vote no and take the big risk of losing his seat? Or does he vote yes, and incur the wrath of his party? At this point his best option might be to vote yes, get re-elected and then switch parties.

Dead Purple Fingers



Miss Marple (the real one)

So, I thought I would find a video of him hosting the show.

Here's the Google search result. As you can see, only parodies (if you can call them that):



Found that on duckduckgo.

Dorothy Jane

Thomas - I would think if she completely deleted the account - they would have to ask FB for the download. If she merely deactivated - it can be gotten in a matter seconds. I think deleting is more drastic and would be harder. But - who knows. If it means FB would have to provide it, it will never happen.

Dead Purple Fingers

She's lying about her death


I emailed you, derwill. Ed (and caro) want to reach out to you.


So Flake said that Kavanaugh was getting "too partisan"?

If Flake believed K was too partisan in Thursday's hearing, Flake's response should have been a statement that he planned to vote no.

Instead he issued a statement Thursday evening that he planned to vote yes.

And then he called for another investigation after voting yes in committee.

An FBI investigation is not a remedy for a nominee's partisanship.

Flake's reasoning isn't logical. He's lying. He's auditioning for a media gig and he got intimidated.


In case this hasn't been linked already, a pretty good critique of Ford's testimony, focusing on the conflict between the timing she claims and the therapist's notes, and arguing that the Safeway business is a red herring to distract from those inconsistencies.


Thomas Collins

Thanks, Dorothy Jane. Since Dr. Ford has clearly been well coached, it's probably the more drastic scrub you described. I agree that the chances that a Facebook employee in a position to activate and leak the page would do so are not good.


Seen on The_Donald, in response to the second door and the Google interns living at the Ford home:

If there is one thing deeply traumatized rape victims want it is strange men living in their house.
Thomas Collins

Flake's the ultimate coward, Porchlight. He's just hoping Kavanaugh drops out and spares Flake the necessity of voting on the nomination.

JM Hanes

Thomas Collins:

I'm no IT expert, but anybody who believes they can scrub their Facebook walls clean, underestimates how many bits and pieces of it FB squirrels away the instant you post. I suspect it could be reconstructed in almost no time flat; the trick would be getting FB to do it, or allow it to be done.

I remember trying to get LinkdN (sp?) to scrub my super secret personal email address that a former friend used to "invite" me to connect. Yeah, no problem, I just had to select some not-for-public-viewing option, which I could go back and undo anytime, in the newly created LinkdN account I'd have to open to do it.

Miss Marple (the real one)

Inside Edition had some footage:


Worth looking at to see Trump in a yellow suit, shirt, and tie. LOL!

Ralph L

Picking Tiger and Phil as Captain's picks

Ratings, not victory.


Just for clarity's sake, those "women" on that elevator were activists--paid activists--, not "victims of sexual assault". I rather doubt that any of them were ever really assaulted though i\I imagine that they have convinced themselves by now that any one making a pass at them is guilty of "sexual assault"--perhaps even lucky at the the wrong way is now "attempted rape" in their minds/.. Kelly should have responded to that. She let them get the upper hand there by making her into an apologist for some implied GOP hardness towards women. Hat happened was that a paid operative was planted in an elevator to harass Senators and physically intimidate them. That issue should have been here response.

It is early in the week but so far the Dems are winning the propaganda war. The GOP cannot understand that the are not involved in a rational discussion or exchange of ideas.

The GOP still has not quite figured out what is happening (though I imagine Trump has).

This is now turning into the issues of the midterms, and it could well cost them the house. This is all we are going to hear about up to the election (that and any other contrived scandals between now and then).

Not the economy, not immigration, not the danger of immpeachent, but the war against women. It is now an issue of appeasing hysterical women. How Soros and Co. must be laughing.

Pretty deft slide of hands, and all based on obvious lies. I am amazed that they can pull it off.

All the social engineering we have seen that last 50 years was done just for moments like this.

Hope they have a counter move.


Anonomom, I visited your pointer and started reading. Buffaloed by all the words that seemed to meander, I decided that it was written for a different audience than me.

His point?


TC, if Ford deleted her FB account and it is recoverable by FB things get very hot for Zuck. The EU is investigating FB for lying about GDPR compliance, eg "right to be forgotten." Recovering a deleted account right now would be somewhat inconvenient.

If some other FB account has her picture at the "pussy hat science" march, and it is found and published, also inconvenient when facing GDPR compliance investigations by the EU.

GDPR, like the California Data Privacy law, if fundamentally unworkable. Both claim extraterritorial effect, both fail to recognize basic technology backup processes. The fallout should amuse those who do not own software companies. I am cautiously terrified of the fallout, yet can't take my eyes off the process.

ps, the EU online copyright law should create a Benny Hill style chase scene of prosecutors, IP lawyers, assorted riff raff, and the public chasing around to no purpose. We may be back to chalk on slate if that goes into effect.

Jim Eagle

he Potomac Safeway, has two separate entrances. One on the River Road side and the Strosijers Harware side.

Here is the google map URL. See if it works. If not google "River Road & Falls Road", Potomac, MD. I know this store since when I lived in North Potomac, I would stop there to pick up what we needed.


Street view. (actually parking lot view).

Clarice Feldman

TC, the last name of the guy Grassley referred for criminal prosecution is Catalan. I can't remember his first name, but surely Google has it.


things get very hot for Zuck.

In the Ford instance, it would have to be a criminal investigation with a subpoena or a background investigation with permission from Ford.

Not likely.


Lyle, Got it and I’ve replied.


If Flake flakes out, Manchin is sure to follow.

(Jeez, what is it with these surnames?)

Miss Marple (the real one)

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
10m10 minutes ago

So if African-American unemployment is now at the lowest number in history, median income the highest, and you then add all of the other things I have done, how do Democrats, who have done NOTHING for African-Americans but TALK, win the Black Vote? And it will only get better!


Not sure why she didn’t retire under Obama

Andrew C. McCarthy

Justice #RuthBaderGinsburg on @realDonaldTrump
: 'He is a faker. He has no consistency about him. He says whatever comes into his head at the moment. He really has an ego.... How has he gotten away with not turning over his tax returns?' (link: https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/12/politics/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-donald-trump-faker/index.html) cnn.com/201

Miss Marple (the real one)

Did any of you guys wear sweaters like this back in the 70's?

Miss Marple (the real one)


Ari Fleischer retweeted that an hour or so ago and asked how the dens could accuse Kavanaugh of being too partisan when there sits RBG ON the court saying stuff like that.

stuck on stupid

If Miss Lindsay follows through on how the democrats rigged the the Ford leak than Trump will have his FBI Witch Hunt Instead of Witches of EastWick we will have Witches of D.C. starring Feinstein,Hirono,Gillebrand, Pelosi, Waters and Kamela Harris

Frau Steingehirn

Porch and jimmyk - all the photos of the woman I posted are identified as Christine Ford. Daily Caller shows the same photo next to a photo of Judge Kavanaugh. In sweeping over the photo, it says the woman is Liz Danner. Go figure.

I just say, Ford is normally a two-bagger and needed a lot of help to look ready for the hearing.

A 2017 article in the Mercury News says that Blasey Ford was planning to attend a science march wearing a knitted brain hat that was supposed to resemble the pink p*ssy hats that many have used to protest Donald Trump and advocate for women’s rights.

“It’s a science party!” the article quotes “biostatistician Christine Blasey, of Palo Alto” as saying. It says she would “wear an elaborately knitted cap of the human brain — yarn turned into a supersized cerebral cortex — inspired...

Video of Frisco march [ugh!!!] says Ford is found at about minute 16. I find her hard to isolate in the crowd of SF looneys.

It was hard to the name Liz Danner but Porch is correct: Ford's internet presence has been wiped clean.

Thanks for keeping me honest. I don't want to be unfair to any female victim survivor.


Miss M, as I was not a member of the Cowsills, no.

stuck on stupid

My own feelings is that the laughter that Ford is expressing is losing her virginity to Kav and friends and seeing how the loose girls were portrayed in the Georgetown yearbooks.

Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma


Cotton is also on the march.

Investigating both ChiFi and Ford's lawyers.

Miss Marple (the real one)

Senator Grassley is getting quite good at firig off letters. A few more and someone needs to compile them in a book!



So Ford thinks that she is a scientist? That is modern Academia for out.

I bet should not tell an Integral from a differential.



mike in houston


Had some classic fair isle and some Irish cable knit. Of course they all went when I moved from CT to Houston in 1976

Captain Hate

Not sure why she didn’t retire under Obama

She wanted the first gynecological nightmare President to name her replacement. How's that working out, Ruthie?

matt - deplore me if you must

No! No! Never on those sweaters. Wide lapels, yes. Weird striped bell bottoms, yes. But a man has to know his fashion faux pas'es.

This was pre-planned for months. She was coached, and one of the steps in ensuring a cover sticks is to build the lie around kernels of truth. The lie detector test is a complete joke. The farce has been stage managed with the cooperation of a corrupt media from the outset.

Now is the time to punch back. The crimes of the Democrats, all the while enabling predators like Weinstein, Clinton, Kennedy, the entire management team at CBS, NBC, etc, Charlie Rose, Weiner, David Letterman et al, must be exposed for what they are. They are the animals. They are the predators. And some of them need to serve some time, just like Cosby.

Ralph L

Dorothy Hamill meets Mullet.


Ford's "internet presence" was scrubbed because they do not want you to see here left wing activism or her connection to the Dem machine.

There also must be plenty of stuff that is hard to square with the "trauma victim" act--no doubt there are lots of really stupid comments too.


I think it is Ford in the hat. I think she had a Hollywood "Marie Harf" make-over for the hearing. Photo on right is cropped from an older photo with her husband.


What a mindless lunatic.

Jim Eagle

I have known anyone praticing the mind-therapy arts who wasn't "half-a-bubble" off.

Jim Eagle

...have not known....

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