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September 02, 2018

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DebinGA

College or $70,000 a year? ... Talks about the dire need for young aircraft mechanics to replace the tsunami of those retiring.

Miss Marple (the real one)

Kev,

Thank you for that Fox essay. Very helpful!

Clarice,

Both of those essays about the funeral and its significance were good.

GUS

Great minds Capn. My wife just handed me an ESSAY called OMERTA by Roberto de Mattei, 10 seconds before your post.

Captain Hate

I married her 'cause she does all those little 'things' I like, and for the money. But mostly the money.

Now, it's like getting pegged by a walrus on crank...

KILL ME, KILL MMEEE.....
Posted by: Benny Domenech at September 03, 2018 12:30 PM (9oyUx)

Janet 🚬

While the no-goodniks verbally beat up on President Trump at the funerals...the politician that had THIS to say about Americans was sitting in the congregation:

Hillary Clinton describing Americans at a fundraiser in NY - “You know, just to be grossly generalist, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it."
“Now some of these folks, they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America."

Hillary Clinton TV interview - "If I were to be grossly generalistic I'd say you can take Trump supporters & put them in two big baskets.
They are what I call "the deplorables" [laughing] Ya know, the racists & the haters..."

matt - deplore me if you must

Three weeks ago the Italian media were having a field day with stories of gay orgies at the Vatican and then came the Vigano bombshell and the Pope has been silent.

This to me can only indicate that Satan is afoot and that Francis bears culpability. This is beyond serious.

That he has been completely silent on the matter only worsens the situation. Bocaccio and Chaucer used to mock the clergy for their decadence, but we are finding the same predatory practices hundreds of years later.

I know a lot of outstanding clergy, but I also know many who do not meet the grade. Some of them do Herculean work and others never seem to be around. It is a weird dynamic. I think it is time to clean house even if we lose 20-30% of the clergy.

Faithfulness and right conduct are absolutes. Maybe you are gay or heterosexual, but the vow of right conduct is inviolable.

caro

I hope it’s a long time off, but it would be appropriate for President Trump to exclude former presidents from his state funeral.

boris

"Why the speculating?"

We're all waiting to find out if doom is approaching. Our fate is hanging by what appears to be a very slim thread.

How many here or on the ledge or on the veranda have declared "It's time to end this now already!"

So people peer into the future looking for hints and signs to avoid the sword of Damocles.

Marlene

Jack,I had to laugh when you commented that Frederick knew the lyrics to Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire." The daughter wrote a short essay for every lyric in the song when she was about Frederick's age. (10th grade). I think it was for a history class.

narciso

I would take the Delores and go back to the day before Mueller was appointed.

Kevlar Kid

The Pope calls for "silence and prayer."

i have a lot of questions. maybe i'm thinking too much. and i've been encouraged by my Pastor to continue to pray about these questions. my "anchu" (teacher, not my Pastor) asked me to consider asking "where are these questions coming from and what does each 'want with you?' ")

Why a call for silence? Why not call for silent reflection IN prayer?

this isn't a petty objection over semantics.

"Silence" is a weapon in this instance.

Yes, The Pope is the ultimate authority of the Roman Catholic Church. However, "quiet reflection" is being buried--- publicly- under a call for "silence."

A call for "examination of conscience" would be more in line with prayer as it is a form of prayer, a process in which every Catholic may engage freely without oversight or seemingly dogmatic imperatives.

but "silence"?

i do not trust that directive coming from a mortal who's being confronted with hard truths coming from one of his elders.

what degree of silence is expected? does it mandate "recusal" of his adversaries?

i have a lot of questions.

Jane

Now that's something to think about Caro!

Tom R

Thinking outside the box...

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1036563344205996033?s=21

lurkersusie

N.Y. Times Throws Up a Smokescreen for Bruce Ohr - American Greatness

If this weekend’s bombshell story in the New York Times is to be believed, the nation’s top law enforcement agency under Barack Obama was not only corrupt, it was really dumb, too.

In an effort to get ahead of the release of Bruce Ohr’s private congressional testimony—which undoubtedly will include more stunning details about the depth of his relationship with a paid political operative from another country—and mitigate the damage from Ohr’s recently released emails, the Times is already working to cover the Justice Department official’s tracks.

https://amgreatness.com/2018/09/03/n-y-times-throws-up-a-smokescreen-for-bruce-ohr/

Beasts of England

😳

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/meghan-mccain-would-be-a-great-senate-replacement-for-her-father

Captain Hate

Trump won't exclude anyone from his funeral. He's a much bigger person than the likes of McCain and history will confirm that.

Davod

From the link about McCain and Cuba:

"...“They (Hemingway and his chums) got out, set up chairs and took out the drinks, as if they were going to watch the sunset. Soon, a truck arrived with the trussed up victims and the firing squads got busy as Hemingway sipped his Daiquiris…”

https://babalublog.com/2018/09/02/how-john-mccain-helped-a-terror-sponsoring-regime-castros-create-a-money-making-tourist-trap-finca-vigia-out-of-a-commie-loving-former-kgb-agents-home-ernest-hemingways/

Kevlar Kid

truth be told (sorry if that inspires a PTSD response :D) i would welcome the opportunity to assist the Pontiff were he to bend and enter our sweat lodge for some cleansing and purification.

he'd find many practicing Catholics inside who recite the "Our Father" and say the Rosary while enduring the pain and suffering of a sweat.

and as he crawls out of that 2 hour ceremony, where he'd hear out loud prayers, and feel silent prayers of all of us in the Circle, he'd have experienced a different path to Truth.

i suggest this because it appears to me from within my small spiritual foxhole, living with a lot of capital E Evil in this world around me, the Pontiff is not wrestling with Evil--- he is attempting to control it.

THAT is the essence of liberation theology and some of the other usual suspects who do the bidding of capital E Evil in the world.

The Pontiff will create the opposite result of Christ's intentions for HIS CHURCH.

just how it goes when these "annointed" types believe they are the ultimate arbiters of Capital T Truth.

let the defrocking begin with him--- in his own mind. "Forgive me, Father, for I HAVE SINNED."

i've never witnessed the consistent demonstration of the important virtue of humility in this Pope. ever. he's media-driven and political in his countenance. keep bodies in pews and collection plates full using popular words and causes.

spinning and reaping i call it.

that's just me.

GUS

Trump will exclude John McCain from his funeral.

Tom R

Just saw this article linked on Twitter. I’m not Catholic so don’t follow papal politics. Is this the main reason why Pope Benedict got sacked?

http://www.thejournal.ie/pope-benedict-abuse-1270319-Jan2014/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

narciso

It would seem to be, yet they blamed him for the problem, of course anyone in the hierarchy had some responsibilty.

Kevlar Kid

Tom R:

Making lemonade out of lemons isn't thinking outside a box.

This "outside the box" conjecture merely supports a self-serving premise which, with great frequency, is suggested here on JOM: Mueller *might* be working FOR DJT, because he is supplying the lemons.

The tweeter would be thinking outside the box, in my estimation, had he concerned himself with offering deeper thought on the specifics re the unconstitutionality of the entire crisis being managed by Mr. Mueller.

if we can agree that Mueller is harming us, the electors of a President, then there is NO WAY to conjecture the President isn't being harmed.

the power of this Presidency is that it is, for the first time in a long time, an extension of OUR belief in the Constitution as the basis for the rule of law and our integrity as a Nation true to our founding.

Saying Mr. Mueller hasn't harmed POTUS is something an imprisoned mind would say from "the inside", knowing full well that outside the box means outside the confines of our jailers--- the Cabal and it's agents.

Kev

narciso

Yes it's patently clear, that Mueller is working for other powers, interests not in America's service.

Captain Hate

Mueller has hurt the country and the concept of laws being applied equally. Jeff Sessions and his out of control politicized DOJ has facilitated this.

Marlene

That song came out in 1989,so the daughter was in middle school.

I printed the Ricochet article that Clarice linked in her Pieces yesterday. I'm going to bring in to my mother-in-law when we visit her next week-end. She is 88 years old and has mellowed,accepting that only one of her five kids is a practicing Catholic. Except for her family,her parish in northern Maine has been her life.

narciso

It's like the 64,000 pyramid


https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2018/09/03/andrea-mitchell-cites-farrakhan-evidence-inclusive-group-funeral

Miss Marple (the real one)

All I can tell you guys is that when Pope Benedict was brought out onto the balcony, I could see the Holy Spirit shining from him. Pope Che - nope.

Also, both Francis and John Brennan have faces that rest in a perpetual extreme frown, which I think is not a good sign.

Bogart

hope it’s a long time off, but it would be appropriate for President Trump to exclude former presidents from his state funeral.

Count on skeleton mourners paid to pray...

PERILS OF 35cent MINORITY

Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate and also a member of the Judiciary Committee, said on "FOX News Sunday" that they’d be lucky to see six percent of all the documents out there.

“If he’s so proud of his conservative credentials, show us the record, stand before us, trust the American people and they will trust you. I would say that to Judge Kavanaugh,” Durbin said..

Kevlar Kid

Follow protocol and give the Ex-Preezees the opportunity to decline. Should they accept, under no circumstances do any of them get to speak.

the ex-president is an ex-president. when he dies his title dies too. commentary on that specific presidency is like hooking a U-haul to the hearse.

eulogize the ex-president as one who was an extension of our national soul. eulogize the son, the father, the husband, the man who BECAME and who endured the office.... but leave the politician's profile at the door.

why eulogize hell on earth?

that's all.

henry

Sure Dickless. Right after John Kerry shares his DD214 and Obama shares his college transcripts.

maryrose

I will not respond to the current concern here wrt the Catholic Church pedophile scandal.Many here would disagree with me and are already prejudging it.
MM:
At the time a new Pope is selected The Holy Spirit is part of the process.
The light of the spirit is Always present whether you see it or not.
Many nuns I know had a hard time seeing it with Pope Benedict.
My understanding of the term silence is false stories circulated and people who do not share or know the faith spreading innuendo and falsehoods.
Our priest on Sunday said to write to our bishops and the Pope to express our concerns.
He received applause after his sermon.I reiterate again how the Pope Che reference offends.
If you want to keep offending me , keep using it.
I don’t find it cute or funny.
Last post on this matter until I have much more truthful information.

DebinGA

Why Catholics and Jews Dominate At the Supreme court .. "dominate" numerically not by force of personality. With Kavanaugh there will be 5 Catholics, 3 Jews, and Gorsuch who was raised Catholic and went to the same Jesuit HS as Kavanaugh but is Episcopalian.

sbwaters

A cornerstone of this country is the liberty to say something someone else does not care to hear.

Of course, the freedom to offend does not imply the necessity to do so.

Jack is Back!

marlene,

I have done the same thing with Frederick, using "We Didn't Start The Fire" as timeline history of post WW2. Here is a neat take on the song by choosing the Top 100 of the references.

https://medium.com/the-shocker/the-100-best-references-in-billy-joels-we-didn-t-start-the-fire-6e6085ff710a

As i noted before, Billy wrote it during his 40th year, spanning 1949-1989.

maryrose

This post is in response to an inquiry regarding an organization of nuns.
During Pope Benedict’s reign he wanted all the religious orders investigated including all the nuns.
This group was the one helping with the review and also with the projections of the future of the different orders.

maryrose

SBW:
Continue to offend.

narciso


Yes he's just loads of fun:


http://tallahasseereports.com/2017/10/09/stewarts-blog-mayor-gillum-tells-crowd-he-sees-big-old-confederate-flags-in-tallahassee-everyday/

Captain Hate

maryrose defends the current Pope as consistently as democrats defend Hillary and Obama. In all cases, no evidence will dislodge the need to believe.

Miss Marple (the real one)


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2m2 minutes ago

Two long running, Obama era, investigations of two very popular Republican Congressmen were brought to a well publicized charge, just ahead of the Mid-Terms, by the Jeff Sessions Justice Department. Two easy wins now in doubt because there is not enough time. Good job Jeff......

maryrose

Henry:
Excellent point, well stated.

maryrose

Captain:
Not defending the current Pope Francis- waiting for more information- a big difference there.

Jack is Back!

When we dropped Frederick off at Canterbury we stayed in The Homestead, a B&B inn, near the campus in New Milford. One of their bedrooms is the Kennedy room, where Papa Joe and young JFK stayed during his arrival at Canterbury for 8th grade. He didn't last long at Canterbury since he had an appedectomy while there.

When we go back on the 7th, we are staying in the Kennedy Suite:) There is no longer first and/or second form at Canterbury. And it is now coed.

daddy

Good Morning!

Finished up last night by reading the Somerset Maugham short story, The Outstation. (Thank goodness this link allows you to increase the font size.)

An excellent read. Thanks, Catsmeat! While reading it I was wondering how he described the characteristics of the 2 characters so well and thought I'd never have been able to have done anything like that, but upon finishing and reflecting it struck me that he had probably met those characters, or amalgamations of their characters, while rubbing noses with those types in his travels around Singapore. The incident culminating in the story's end, or a very similar incident, probably also happened, so with my eyes shut and under the covers I concluded, "So that's how he done it!" Well done. Haven't read much of his by the way but i've done "The Razor's Edge" a few times and always really liked that.

I also see that my Dennis Prager iPhone link did not go through so here it is again: Explaining the Left, Part III: Leftism as Secular Religion It was great to hear Dennis reading than while peddling and sweating, since he is so calm and logical.

maryrose

Gillum thinks he can get elected by using the race card and the Confederate flag card.
What he doesn’t realize is these white people are his constituents as well and he needs their votes to win.
Rookie mistake.

Texas Liberty Gal

KK - re: The Pope is the head of the church. Do you think God is pleased with Pope Francis?

Captain Hate

I don't believe you, maryrose. Sorry, but you've made excuses for him when he's bashed our country before and I haven't seen anything to balance that out. It's nothing personal; I'm basing it on what you've written here.

sbwaters

Do you think God is pleased with Pope Francis?

“Though as God's my witness God's kept deadly quiet about it!”

Miss Marple (the real one)

Part 2 of the tweet:


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2m2 minutes ago

....The Democrats, none of whom voted for Jeff Sessions, must love him now. Same thing with Lyin’ James Comey. The Dems all hated him, wanted him out, thought he was disgusting - UNTIL I FIRED HIM! Immediately he became a wonderful man, a saint like figure in fact. Really sick!

A Day in the Life of that Green Dude.  No, that's You Know Me, Al; this is Dorothy.

I got a portable Parker with a forethought per Maugham. She wrote a poem on napkin @ dinner once with him.

Captain Hate

So is DJT's tweet more kabuki theater? Sounds like a legit point to me considering Trump's been hitting the campaign trail for a lot of GOP candidates.

Miss Marple (the real one)

Captain Hate,

It sounds like a legitimate point to me, too.

I am sick of this whole exercise. What has become apparent to me is that the DOJ is infested with leftists as is the FBI. I favor firing everyone.

maryrose

“I don’t believe you Mary Rose”
Which is why I will not engage any further on this topic.

GUS

To answer Tom R. I don't remember Pope Benedict being "sacked".

DebinGA

I've always viewed Jeff Sessions as wily and appreciated that about him. Now I think he's vindictive, which is alarming.

Captain Hate

How would you describe it, GUS? Forceably retired?

maryrose

Debin Ga:
At this point I don’t know what to think,
I had hoped Huber and Horowitz would have more revealing information to expose these criminals in the Obama and Hillary camps.
President Trump needs to declassify all the information.
Today there was an article about Yates at realclear that stated Grassley wanted info on her 10 days in office under President Trump.
Precedence happened when Congress got Fast and Furious info on Holder.
This was requested last February to determine if she was undermining the Trump presidency.
So far / nothing.

Old Lurker

"So is DJT's tweet more kabuki theater?"

It is not actually acting if you really do kill the actors.

GUS

A lot of chatter about Aretha Franklin's funeral.

Which of these men, is not a SCUM BAG.

http://www.foxnews.com/

What have we become as a nation?

daddy

Holy Shit-Smoke on the Water with Queen, Pink Floyd, Rush, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, etc

Pin,

This here is the best version of that tune ever: School of Rock---Smoke On The Water

Jane

Who are the 2 republicans charged, and with what.

This storm missed us by about a mile. It's gorgeous here. 78 degrees - nice breeze.

maryrose

In my opinion-
There is no kabuki theater.
People are clinging to this far- fetched idea because they are frightened of the true reality we are facing.
No person’s actions make sense right now.
What should be done- declassification- is not being done.
Meanwhile the Left is moving their panzer divisions in for the kill at the midterms.

maryrose

Jane:
The guy in California- Hunter and I don’t know the other one.

GUS

Capn', where does your opinion of what happened with Pope Benedict derive from?

Old Lurker

'Splain this one, please:

"ALBANY, N.Y. (WHAM) — New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced Sunday that the state will file a lawsuit against President Trump and the federal government in light of the damage from Hurricane Maria that struck Puerto Rico in September 2017.

The Governor's Office says the lawsuit will be filed against the federal government for failing to provide assistance to Puerto Rico and having an inadequate response to Hurricane Maria."

Jack is Back!

Frederick always reminds me about Queen, that they are the only rock group to have an Astrophysicist playing guitar. Can't argue with that.

GUS

Old Lurker, 69,987 people were killed and some are still dying from the fall out of that Hurricane.

Why do you hate hispanic people?

Cuomo is from Puerto Rico, and he is "wise".

Captain Hate

Gus,

Mostly trying to make sense of what was reported when he unexpectedly was no longer Pope

Frau Rechtschreibung

Behind the mask of Pope Francis:
https://onepeterfive.com/the-dictator-pope-mysterious-new-book-looks-behind-the-mask-of-francis/


Maryrose - I hope the group of nuns who were not "fans" of Pope Benedict will examine Pope Francis with the same vigor. I am not a Catholic but married into a Catholic family so these matters interest me. Imo a healthy Catholic Church is vital to America and the world.

The left continues to attack all people of faith.

Jack is Back!

Frau,

Led by the Pope. He is the most anti-Catholic pope we have ever had. More Catholics have left the church under his leadership than any other pope. I, my wife, my son, are hanging on by a thread. The bishop who shut our school down is a disaster. Named in the Penn indictments since he was bishop of Allentown. Now he is selling our school campus, all 24 acres, for $10+ million. Never let us know early on so we could save the school.

No. We are not happy Catholics, like maryrose.

Texas Liberty Gal

maryrose - "At the time a new Pope is selected The Holy Spirit is part of the process".

Then it follows that the Holy Spirit was part of the process in the election of Pope Francis. I don't understand how this can be believed. Just another reason to believe Christ is the head of the church not sinful man.

Miss Marple (the real one)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/president-trump-abruptly-cancels-labor-day-road-trip-will-remain-at-white-house-all-day/

Are you hiding under a bushel?

When will Christendom, as a whole, be unmasked?

Are you hiding under a bushel?

Jesus weeps but still fashions his whip made of ropes for all who fail the Oarable of Talents.

Ignatz: save yourself by working out your own Salvation ...

rich

>>>I think she bypassed it as an emergency order then put it thru the FISA process with the fake dossier.

Possible?

Posted by: Rocco | September 03, 2018 at 11:32 AM<<<

Not sure I understood CTH's speculation, but I'll hold on to my belief that the whole FISA business was an attempt to justify an illegal spying campaign-well before the conventions-and that the dossier was an attempt at parallel construction of the illegally obtained product.

Are you hiding under a bushel?

It is fascinating to observe the inverse values of conservatives who diddle their own Destiny.

Are you hiding under a bushel?

The path to Life is Narrow and the road to destruction wide..

What do you make of that?

rich

as an aside, I would speculate that the things we are finding out now were put into motion starting with the IRS abuses, moving on to the 12 campaign, professionalized and invigorated during the Iran sales pitch, and fully deployed in time for the 16 campaign ...

GUS

Oh dear Mr W is having a fit!

maryrose

JIB:
Bishops and the dioceses and their decisions are usually not popular with the parishioners.
They are a law unto themselves.
I am not happy about the current events.
I simply want more information.
Pope Benedict stepped down for health reasons, as was stated at the time.

GUS

He stepped down for health reasons, and because he was under attack from INSIDE ,much like POTUS DJT.

Pope Francis is a very flawed man. VERY.

Captain Hate

Was Benedict in worse health than JP2? From all visual accounts, not likely.

Kevlar Kid

maryrose:

your pettiness won't keep me, a practicing Roman Catholic, from saying what i have concluded is part of this process.

if *you decide* to take offense at any dissenting opinion, even those submitted here with respect to the Word of God and His Obedient Son, then it is you who is casting the stone.

i won't assign a motive to you. but suffice to say, the more "rank" practicing Catholic laity have within the Realm--- the more likely they are to put their heel in the face of those who they characterize as trying to rise to the level of the ranked.

this kind of stuff is as old as the Church of Men. and "We" are under no obligation to tolerate it or to be silenced with coercive thinking by the "ranked" as to how our thoughts and prayers are "offending."

self-labeled martyrdom is the stuff of humans with their hands at 10 and 2 at the helm of a religious code. sound familiar?

Good day. Really.

Kev

rse

mr-that was my inquiry about the sisters of st joseph group of nuns. Thanks for replying.

The part of the story I left out was my inquiry was prompted by that particular nun's involvement with the United Religions Initiative.

Given his other policies it would make sense for francis to be more open to uri than his predecessors have been.

Kevlar Kid

“Do you think God is pleased with Pope Francis? “
The following is an 900 word answer. :D

That’s a question easily answered, TLG. And I’m glad seeing it raised. As I was taught, God doesn’t function within such concerns.

Going in, let me say this about “easily answered”---- it’s easy for me to express the complexity *easily*, after decades of study, life outside the psychological control of clergy, and going the extra mile to have my first Catholic marriage annulled.

There is The Great Law of Cause and Effect. Nothing else. Pope Francis lives subject to that same Great Law as every other two-legged on Earth. Gravity isn’t suspended because the Pope decides to climb a ladder in flip flops on any given day.

This comment about ladders, flip flops and gravity isn’t made with snark or rebuke. It is made for the sake of illustrating how we humans can continue to live in deviation from the Great Law even though we may use the Holy Bible (rules for living) as a reknowned and credible guide.

Pope Francis’ entire run as “pope” is predicated on EFFECTS inspired from as long ago as the very founding of the Roman Catholic Church, and as recently as yesterday’s news. The Pope is bound by the very same imperative by which bind ever one of us whether circumstances be of triumph or crisis.

What this comes down to for the Pope and for us: it’s what he/we do next that matters most.

Will Pope Francis continue to rely on the words of liberation theologians, and any other ideological influences he has put into play during his tenure?

Or will the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church walk the walk ON EVERY SINGLE MATTER affecting the lives of his flock.

The flock comes first.

To ignore that priority, feigning empathy for ALL OF HUMANITY, is to invite globalist thinking to replace original intent. (Borders and boundaries exist for the purpose of defining INTEGRITY and its benchmarks.

All are welcome but there are conformities which must be expected and enforced. Sound familiar?

The Great Law is imbued over all of human creations. It is over-arching the power greater than ourselves. It doesn’t need to legislate. It doesn’t need to regulate.)

When human beings ignore the Great Law of Cause and Effect, we are rewarded or experience consequences not of our living. Even some rewards may have a bitter taste.

So, the briefest answer to the question is what is pleasing to God was stated in teaching parables by perhaps the greatest expert on the Great Law the world has ever experienced… Jesus the Nazarene, “the Word made flesh”.

If mortals choose to act contrary to those prescriptions--- which are clear to those who seek understanding of them--- then our lives will naturally be pleasing to us, affording us a life in alignment with the force of God--- a life free from sin (misalignment).

Otherwise we are deifying some super-human profile that we must please, or be judged.

This is perhaps the greatest failing of so many “Catholic teachers” across many parishes in these United States.

I AM is beyond “PLEASING BY HUMANS.” Who am I to “please God.” I exist to learn how to obey the Great Law of Cause and Effect, to live in alignment, to be open to the revelation of mysteries of living here, a place that I chose to come to for the sake of reflecting the Infinite back unto itself.

To live the false, and intensely egoistic, mission of “pleasing God” sets up the false path of “techniquing” our way to God. Technique is what the Church of Men is steeped in to a fault. Yes there are proper ways to give homage to the Great I AM. But the trappings of some prescribed ways are out of synch with the Great Law of Cause and Effect.

The opposite of the intended result, to elevate humanity above its wretched debauched state, is being realized before us in this present crisis.

Why? Because the evil of men has preoccupied the flock with “technique” which mystifies the process of sanctification and its attendant miracles of salvation.

“Look! Over there!” Meanwhile, the human Pope must concern himself with how to “save the Church”--- much like the Mother in a family who endures abuse for the sake of her children having a family life.

One of the many interpretations of why Jesus the Nazarene staged a mau-mau against the moneychangers at the Temple was to flush out the abuse which was rationalized for the sake of the gatekeepers in the name of Yaweh.

God will exist eternally without having to judge me as pleasing or not. I am subject to His Great Law; for God to have to be subject to an effect He would be prone to JUDGE is subjecting God to the Human Plight, our Frailty, our purpose as human beings living a spiritual experience. That would be beneath Him.

Pope Francis is betraying himself and his Church.
I hope these words come across with reverence to believers here on JOM. I have no idea the impact they will have.

So my intent is clear in closing: to offer some fractal of illumination of a seemingly overwhelming problem that will only be “washed away by tears” of the faithful. (To be taken metaphorically, of course.)

Thanks for reading.

Kev

Miss Marple (the real one)

Captain Hate,

He does have Parkinson's, but when he put sanctions on McCerrick and McCerrick ignored them, it became appernt to him he couldn't control the bishops and cardinals, so stepped down in order to allow someone stronger to take charge.

So Pope Francis came in and instead of controlling McKerrick, he lifted the sanctions. Pffft.

That is one account I read, and it could be speculation, gossip, or truth. I have no way of knowing.

rich

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you don't say ...

narciso

Remember staring with Romans 1, what God' said about his nature, and how man would deny It, and how he would respond.

Kevlar Kid

"At the time a new Pope is selected The Holy Spirit is part of the process."

the Pope could have posted that comment and i'd still take exception to it.

Given the process is rife with the heathen politicking of practicing sodomites, pederasts, and sexual perverts, the Holy Spirit hasn't been present since before the Council of Nicea.

Not a one of those heathens are about living a life in quest of forgiveness of themselves or of those whom they believed have transgressed against them. they are living violations of "The Lord's Prayer." no judgement--- just a fact.

Pope Francis--- the man acting as pope--- has been snared by his liberation theology precepts into the role of enabler.

the role of enabler is the fate of every postulant of marxist "thinking."

at best we'll get compromise "in the name of Forgiveness."

as maryrose likes to say:" you can take that to the bank."

i like to quote the mythical Tony Baretta: "Dats da name addat tune!"

:D

Jack is Back!

maryrose,

You don't know the almost criminal details of how Francis and his Lavender Mob led by Cardinal Deneels who supports abortion, contreception, Euthansia, gay marriage. The same guy delivered rhe inagaural prayer on the balcony when Francsis was declared the new Pope.

Still think he is pure as the driven snow?

JimNorCal

Probably posted already?
Bishop calls for Francis to address the crisis.
https://turnto10.com/news/local/bishop-tobin-calls-for-investigation-of-pope-francis

lyle

Is the funeral porn over?

maryrose

Speculation and gossip is not truth.
I object to the disrespectful name of Pope Che only.
Nothing else.
“Your Pettiness” per KK
Back to scrolling by your posts.

narciso

The holy spirit allows free will, those with discernment will choose correctly.

Kevlar Kid

To consecrate our actions, purifying those deeds, in order to be in alignment with the Sacred, we were instructed by Jesus the Christ to invoke His Holy Name.

The Church of Men created a type of notary seal. Voila. Inviolability. On balance the "hidden Church of Men" is utterly tyrannical.

And as the impotence within the Holy See continues to manifest during this continuing crisis of spirit, there is a coming collision with civil authority.

Somehow, the Holy See has managed to be going forward into this coming battle with less than optimal spiritual leverage.

PS: i think the Holy See should vote itself out of the UN.

Dave (in MA)
Is the funeral porn over?
Howie Carr pointed out that we're accustomed to the Labor Day Telethon but this year it's the Funeralthon.
Frau Papa Razzi

Miss M - I was heartened to read that Pope Benedict personally responded and said he had indeed given directives to end and to deal with McCarrick's misdeeds.

Watching Pope John Paul II wither slowly to the point of death may have let Benedict see that that might not always be good for the Church. Look at those who were waiting for a chance to initiate progressive goals.

Theologians are at times more interested in arguing about the heads of pins than the salvation of people.

Beasts of England

I'm not sure, lyle - did Crash see his shadow?

narciso

He gave us 10 simple rules, and we expanded it to 6,000 is that the eight count, because the first 10 couldn't be implemented honestly.

The prophets sent word, and we know what happened with most of them.

Kevlar Kid

Hope you don't mind me citing Romans 1 here, narciso.

But it was a salient point you bring to the fore:

"18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. {The Great Law of Cause and Effect}
29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."

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