The 'Wrong Apartment' Shooting - A NY Times Scoop

The NY Times has coverage of the 'wrong apartment' shooting in Dallas. There detail about neighbors complaining about marijuana smoke is new to me (and to Google News), and provides a rationale for the seemingly gratuitous marijuana 'smear' of a few days back. My emphasis:

In an echo of past police killings, there has been anger over what seem to be attempts to incriminate the victim: Police released a search warrant that revealed that 10.4 grams of marijuana in multiple baggies had been found in Mr. Jean’s apartment.

“First they assassinate his person, then they assassinate his character,” Mr. Crump said.

Hours earlier that evening, managers at the apartment complex had received complaints from residents that there was a strong smell of marijuana in the fourth-floor hallways. Managers knocked on Mr. Jean’s door and at least five other doors inquiring about the smell, the Jean family lawyers said. It was unclear who on the floor was responsible for the odor.

OK, first, the Times cites as its source "Jean family lawyers", who held a press conference which included denunciations of the marijuana search and coverage. Did the Times get this 'neighbors complaining' detail separately, or did the rest of the media overlook its significance?

And what is the significance? Well, if - IF - Jean had been smoking marijuana and had cracked his apartment door in order to get some cross-ventilation, that would explain the neighbors' complaints and might answer the riddle of whether his door could have been ajar at times during the night, as Citizen Guyger claims. Kind of a big deal.

Other details which might lean a bit towards Citizen Guyger:

Mr. Jean’s relatives, lawyers and supporters all say it would have been difficult for the officer to have mistaken Mr. Jean’s door: It had a large, bright-red, semicircular doormat, lying on a bare concrete floor. Officer Guyger had none. Would she not have noticed?

“My main concern is that she is lying,” said Mr. Merritt, one of the Jean family lawyers.

But Officer Guyger’s supporters say she had her hands full at the time she arrived at Mr. Jean’s door: Officials said she had with her a police vest, duty bag and lunchbox — items she might be expected to carry to her own front door, not someone else’s.

Depending on how she is holding those items the floor and doormat might not be immediately visible. Nor, if she is on autopilot after a long day, would she be checking for prompts and clues as to her whereabouts.

I still believe that if evaluated as a police officer, Ms. Guyger's decision to shoot can not be justified; if it was too dark for her to see anything other than a silhouette, as she claims, it was too dark for her to see a weapon that could have elevated this to a deadly force situation. IMHO police training in de-escalation is woefully deficient but she could have simply stepped back out of the apartment, re-assessed, and called for back-up. My goodness, what if she had been at her own apartment door and the superintendent had been responding to a complaint about a leak and then decided to change a burned out lightbulb in her entranceway? She's going to shoot the guy?

Evaluated as a civilian in her own residence, the standards for the use of a weapon in self-defense are more lenient and a case for self-defense to prevent a robbery could be made (Texas Penal Code 9.31, 9.32). IF she had been in her own home, which of course she wasn't. And since the hallway was available, shooting just seems to me to be a second or third choice. She lived alone, so she had no reason to think anyone inside was in danger. Stand in the hallway and think things over. Count to ten.

Well. Hindsight is twenty-twenty.

AS BEST I CAN TELL: The NY Times stands alone on this, as best I see.

I await developments.

Comments

[Jim Eagle]

Knock, Knock

Who's there?

Me, Number One!

[narciso]

Crumple talking about characterassassination, that's rich, however it seems the officer was one toke over the line,

[joan]

"Seriously - you can't imagine I was nicknamed "The Tinman" for my grace and agility? If I had a nickel for every time one of my friends called for Dorothy and her oil can..."

Oh, my! Wish today's comedians were as witty as Mr. Maguire. A little intelligence would help them, too.

[Jim Eagle]

Full disclosure: I have in on a number of ocassions while traveling on business, used either a key or card on the wrong room door. It happens a lot to hotel guests, especially if there are two banks of elevators across from each other. You first went to your room on the East elevator and turned west when you got to the hallway. Then sometime later you take the West elevator, and forgetting you end up turning west thinking you were on the East elevator.

That, and whether you've had more than one Martini:)

[Threadkiller]

Hours earlier that evening, managers at the apartment complex had received complaints from residents that there was a strong smell of marijuana in the fourth-floor hallways

I guess super cop's correct floor and apartment also have strong smells of marijuana, otherwise maybe, just maybe, she may have had an inclination that she was at the wrong place at tbe wrong time.

[Old Lurker]

Boris, Other Thread:

"whatever their motives, cloak their Neverism in ideology, and call it true conservatism."

OK, I accept that change, Boris.

"Cloak their Neverism" is a lot different, in a Judas Goat fashion, than "ARE the ideological Right".

On the other side of the coin, while some Trump Supporters might not be, lots of them ARE of the ideological right.

Just as I accept that many who support Dems might not be Stalinist Communists, they enjoy going along for the ride. And that is right where I place Never Trumpers...along for the ride with the Dems.

[Threadkiller]

answer the riddle of whether his door was ajar,

TM, did you see my door lock analysis on the previous shooting thread?

[Old Lurker]

Jack "That, and whether you've had more than one Martini:)"

Oh! That is why that happens to me much more often at 10PM and 10AM.

[narciso]

Just jumping to conclusions:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/man-shouts-allahu-akbar-as-he-drives-into-french-crowd-cw7tgmk5p

[Jim Eagle]

Going to interesting who gets molested by Joe at this shindig.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/15/politics/joe-biden-hrc-dinner-2020/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_content=2018-09-15T13%3A43%3A21&utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social

[Beasts of England]

There's a decent breeze on the water, but it's still a peach out there for mid-September. It doesn't get much better than an afternoon of boating followed by an evening of college football. If I could only work in a quick dove hunt... 😎

[Threadkiller]

Here are my comments on the lock, TM. You had noted that "Per the arrest affidavit, which seems to be her version of events, the door was slightly ajar. When she pushed her key into the lock, the door opened."

The videos I linked support that scenario:

From the other shooting thread:

I hate linking this asshole but he does have a video of what the key looks like and how the lock operates.

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunking/status/1039609539446943747

This video show a similar lock and its operation. It seems that it can be left in the unlocked position:

https://youtu.be/OV8nwDQR_sk

This is from the manufacturer's site:

1″ deadbolt – lock via manual thumb turn from inside

https://www.gokeyless.com/product/saflok-insync-dclass-rfid-deadbolt-lock/

The video at the King Tweet link only proves that the door will automatically shut. Not that is automatically locks.

The officer could have inserted her key twisted it and got nervous when there was no unlocking motor sound but the door was unlocked.

This video shows three different types of locks that the rfid key will operate when used in an apartment complex:

https://youtu.be/t4YfcXqIP94

If the Dallas complex was set up similarly the officer would be able to go through any auto locking door and not the non-auto locking deadbolt.

I think the deceased left his door closed but unlocked.

I should have noted that the second lock in that video doesn't match the apartment lock that was shown in the King video. The third lock does.

I combined all my comments without their time stamps.

[Tom Maguire]

"Seriously - you can't imagine I was nicknamed "The Tinman" for my grace and agility? If I had a nickel for every time one of my friends called for Dorothy and her oil can..."

Thanks but I took that out as being too light-hearted. As best I recall, the full passage was:

***

Depending on how she is holding those items the floor and doormat might not be immediately visible. I myself can walk without looking at the floor, although its true that I have an unusual level of athleticism. Seriously - you can't imagine I was nicknamed "The Tinman" for my grace and agility? If I had a nickel for every time one of my friends called for Dorothy and her oil can...

[Tom Maguire]

OK, interesting about the locks, thanks.

[boris]

"Cloak their Neverism" is a lot different, in a Judas Goat fashion, than "ARE the ideological Right"

Hey I like a good quibble.

Look, where the sides are Obama Left, NeverTrump, and Trump supporters ... it is NeverTrump laying CLAIM to ideological purity of "The Right".

So yeah, regarding those 3 players in the game, they ARE the ideological right team.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

I don't know if this is a true story or not, but it sounds like President Trump's MO:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnJV7b1XcAAjjS_.jpg:large

[Jane]

John Kerry should be arrested. (Sorry to change the subject)

[rse]

I am just proud the spenser book discussion on the previous thread brought in a rare tm comment.

Not denying they became formulaic in the end. Somewhat like elizabeth george and patricia cornwell. The early spenser stuff is entertaining, especially when travelling or at the beach.

[Michael (fpa P4F) ... Stop the Witch Hunt - Stop the Coup !]

OGH - Uh-oh, someone is in big trouble now. :)
I would never have thought a Spenser reference would suffice to trigger you.

I always wondered why Parker had his protagonists take that turn of character - was he poking fun at himself/his own creations, or subtly commenting on a cultural change in the depiction of heroes?

Thankfully, his Jesse Stone character bore none of the signs of self-absorption/self-regard that Spenser and Hawk devolved to in the later books.

__ __ __ __ __

On the troll beat, meanwhile - if you have unsheathed the mighty ban hammer and used it to smite the toxic pollution that is ruining this wonderful experiment of yours, you have my undying thanks.

[Rocco]

Was she blonde?

[joan]

narciso,
so he suffers from 'relative mental confusion' -- ha!

[Rocco]

This is huge from Judicial Watch

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-defense-state-department-documents-reveal-obama-administration-knew-that-al-qaeda-terrorists-had-planned-benghazi-attack-10-days-in-advance/

[Threadkiller]

That is from 2015, Rocco.

[Old Lurker]

"This is huge from Judicial Watch"

Rocco, wake me up when anybody not on JOM gives a damn.

[Rocco]

Thanks TK, my bad! I meant to post the latest on Benghazi in the Strozk/Page docs. It's in Fittons youtube at 35:20. So sorry!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK2dO3LsjxM&feature=youtu.be

[Jim Eagle]

LOL. Insty calls it "more a cruise ship navy".

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/406790-bill-kristol-building-war-machine-seeking-candidate-to-challenge-trump-in-2020

So, that proves, Insty reads this blog very carefully.

[Jim Eagle]

Looks like Tinman has failed to lock out the vomitous one.

[Marlene]

Good afternoon! Last night our nephew and his wife had their baby girl,three weeks early! My sister-in-law said she is perfect! They gave her a traditional name,so I'm pleased about that. One nephew and his wife had a baby in July and another nephew and his wife are due in early October. Their baby names are interesting. *eyeroll*

[Catsmeat]

JMHanes, thank you for the text of the children's Progress--beautiful, I thought. And I've ordered the Ladder of Rickety Rungs!

[joan]

Mr. Maguire, 12:32:

It's not that the officer and the shooting weren't sobering to me so I ignored the topic of the post, I guess my reaction to this shooting, like when the officer shot and killed the lady from Australia, is -- I will never know or understand how or why either horrible event happened. There seemed to be no explanation why a policeman would shoot and kill a woman who reports a crime and walks up to a police car. And, there doesn't seem to be a logical explanation to why that policewoman walked into someone else's apartment thinking it was hers and kills someone she says she thought was an intruder. Not making light of it at all.

[Tom R]

From TK’s Freeper thread...

The net effect of "The plan" is a calming effect on MAGA people who SHOULD BE mad as hell about the lack of support the President is getting from his AG.

I ignored the person after this. He is either ignorant or intentionally trying to deceive people regarding the “lack of support the President is getting from his AG”.

Since 100% of everything Q Anon posts are pro-Trump, anti-Democrat, anti-Swamp it makes me wonder why so many people are trying to discredit their posts?

[Jim Eagle]

Didn't someone, here, there, or somewhere, speculate that Q Anon was Sebastian Gorka, or am I imagining that?

[Jane]

Congrats Marlene.
When are you returning?

[James D.]

I totally missed the previous thread, which is just as well. There's no reason to expend even one nanosecond on anything Andrew Sullivan has to say on any subject.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Jack,

I vaguely remember that, but I have lost track and it is sort of unsolvable.

[Kevlar Kid]

in my best Telly Savalas: "We've come a long way, baby."

Heartbreaker_Rolling Stones_unofficial video

[Captain Hate]

I ignored the person after this. He is either ignorant or intentionally trying to deceive people regarding the “lack of support the President is getting from his AG”.

Are you 100% certain that when DJT tweeted "Thanks Jeff" at the end of a message he wasn't expressing honest frustration at the DOJ indicting two GOP Congress critters just before the campaign season begins in earnest?

[Kevlar Kid]

Marlene: sounds like the harvest moon phase of your life is in full swing....descendants ROCK!

[Rocco]

Congrats Marlene, I know what you mean about the names these days.

TK, burying this beneath the fold cause I screwed up! There's nothing new in that Judicial Watch youtube about Benghazi. It's a recap he did because of Obama's recent remarks about chalking it up to a conspiracy theory. The new stuff was about the Strozk/Page docs.

Hope I didn't waste your time.

[Kevlar Kid]

Why is Joe DiGenova so certain Comey et al "are going down" for their criminal misuse of the FISC and the FISA warrant process?

[Tom R]

Michael Moore believes in 4D Chess Theory.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2018/09/15/michael-moore-thinks-donald-trump-wrote-nytimes-op-ed-piece-hes-the-master-of-distraction-he-wants-us-to-believe-there-are-adults-in-the-room

The URL is all you need to read. Other than that the rest of the article is typical Progtard butthurt.

[Clarice Feldman]

told you we didn't have enough facts to judge fairly.

[Momto2]

And I've ordered the Ladder of Rickety Rungs!

Me, too! I bet they wonder why the sudden interest.

[Captain Hate]

So narc, how much rope is the military gonna give Tommy Boy Maduro?

[daddy]

Good Morning!

(Apologies if already posted)

Woodward: No Evidence Of Trump-Russia Collusion, I Searched For Two Years

In an interview with Hugh Hewitt on Friday, Bob Woodward said that in his two years of investigating for his new book, 'Fear,' he found no evidence of collusion or espionage between Trump and Russia. Woodward said he looked for it "hard" and yet turned up nothing.

Hewitt: Did you, Bob Woodward, hear anything in your research in your interviews that sounded like espionage or collusion?"

Woodward: "I did not, and of course, I looked for it, looked for it hard,"

Hewitt: "But you’ve seen no collusion?"

Woodward: "I have not."...

Hewitt: ...Very last question, Bob Woodward, I just want to confirm, at the end of two years of writing this book, this intensive effort, you saw no effort, you, personally, had no evidence of collusion or espionage by the President presented to you?"

Woodward: "That is correct."

[narciso]

Well therein lies the problem, if he hangs they hang together, I started looking at some of the likely candidates of the wannabe key stone coup, I think the big problem were all those al quads and Hezbollah auxiliaries that were given passports these last four years.

Re manafort, this fraternal exsanguinationd in the blood lands frame every likely event, the holomodor was followed by some of the gruesome elements of the holocaust, and because some like Bandera spoke out against the former, the us govt ignored the complicity in the latter, by Bandera

[Jim Eagle]

Some guy over at Rantburg has found the evidence on Kavanaugh's affair:

[Tom R]

CH,

No one has done more to support Trump’s MAGA agenda than Sessions. All anyone has to do to confirm that is look at all the policy initiatives and prosecutions that the Sessions-led DOJ have done in less than two years. The announcement this week that the DOJ is investigating the social media tech giants is IMO a mandatory requirement to weaken the control the Progressives have over indoctrinating the general public with misinformation. When someone claims Sessions isn’t supporting Trump my Bullshit Detector triggers and tells me they are either ignorant or trying to deceive people. YMMV.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

So now the media have their claws out for Mattis. It really disgusts me. They want so badly for the country to fail so that they can say "I told you so".

Where are lightning bolts when you need them.

[narciso]

And furthermore the likes of turchynovs svoboda seem not to habe learned noe to throw red flags. They were in the first maiden govt

[boris]

They want so badly for the country to fail so that they can say "I told you so"

Nothing new about it either ... Vietnam, Iran, Iraq.

[Captain Hate]

Tom, that answers what you think about Sessions but it didn't answer my question. I'm not trying to be a prick by pointing that out. Sessions was given a huge job, probably the largest of any Cabinet member. I'm sure DJT can be a very demanding executive. I think it's possible that DJT could be pleased with the overall job the AG is doing but still find some specific areas to criticize.

[daddy]

Trump and supporters, as a group, in general are not ideological. NeverTrumpers, whatever their motives, cloak there Neverism in ideology, and call it true conservatism.

Dennis Prager mentioned on yesterday's Show that "NeverTrumpers believe themselves to be morally superior people to Trump" and that trumps everything about Trump in their cloisterd, selfish, view.

I missed much of his show except that comment but I believe he must have been riffing a bit off his latest column: Is the President a Bad Role Model for Children?

...So then, if I emphatically support the idea that adult men should seek to be models for younger men, how could I support a president who apparently isn’t?

The answer should be so obvious that I am disappointed all conservatives do not readily understand it. The role of the president of the United States is first and foremost to be a good president. If he (or she) is a personal role model, that is a lovely bonus — but it is only a bonus...

Usually whatever Dennis has been writing/thinking about emerges in his comments on his show.

[anonamom]

Jib, are you saying your key or card key allows you in to other people's rooms???

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Catholic Sat
‏ @CatholicSat
1h1 hour ago

At the end of his meeting with the Youth of Sicily today, Pope Francis refused to give the Pontifical Blessing, as not to offend the "many non-Catholic christians, those of other religions, and the agnostics" present.

===============================

Well, nothing more to be said, is there?

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

R. Wolfe
❌
‏ @WhoWolfe

Fact:: The ABC executive that cancelled @therealroseanne is the same person who cancelled Last Man Standing and is married to Susan Rice.

Picture:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnEnI4EXcAEQ6k9.jpg

(He looks like a moron.)

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/15/reporter-stops-broadcast-to-save-dog-from-storm-floods.html

Video is in the body of the story, not the video at the top.

Obviously, this reporter will never make it to the big time, since what she should have done was highlight the drowning dog as she blamed Trump.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Since Hurricane Florence, I have been remembering President Trump and how he gave $1 million to charity, for victims of Hurricane Harvey. I will also remember President Trump and Melania passing out food to the victims. They go “over and beyond” as President and First Lady.🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/LADS4lj1PN

— SarahB77 (K) (@b77_sarah) September 15, 2018

Photo at link.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Also, I have seen it written that while leftism IS an ideology, conservatism is not.--

I've said it before and will again; read Suicide of the West by James Burnham if you want to understand the difference completely.
I might not have made it all the way through Moby Dick but SOTW was a breeze.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/09/15/steve-hilton-stop-blaming-financial-crisis-for-populism-elitist-rot-set-in-years-before.html

I am not an economist, so a lot of this goes over my head.

I do think telling people to learn new skills and move across the country is pretty ridiculous when you are addressing a coal-miner from a small town in his 50's. Especially since training will be hard to get, and you are asking him to give up a family support group and a place his family has lived for generations.

However, I am unsure what a "business-friendly living wage" ism so I look askance at all of these people who offer swell new ideas.

[Jim Eagle]

anonamom,

No. Just that I have many times got off an elevator in a hotel either on the wrong floor or dis-oriented because of the one I took, went the wrong way and when the key or card didn't work realized it was the wrong room. I would be surprised that I am alone as a frequent traveller back in the day. One year I did 185K miles on United alone. They have a special club for you in their hubs for 100K members.

Now, I am lucky if I rack up more than 10K miles per year including our trips to Europe:)

BTW, getting off the wrong floor is due to not checking the keypad close enough. For example, one time in Houston, I got on an up elevator on the lobby floor that had come up from a lower level (maybe a garage). Without looking, I just pressed my floor (5) not realizing someone had pressed 4 by mistake when they wanted 7. It arrives at what I think is 5 but its actually 4. These things happen especially if you are tired, lack concentration or have one too many martinis:)

[narciso]

And Burnham was a trotskyite so he understood the difference, chambers meyer and company understood the difference as did ravines and other defectors.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Relinking this;
One Nation Under Xi? This is why Christian Persecution in China is Escalating.
Xi and China are at one of those inflection points all dictatorial governments especially communist ones face; allow the country to continue to gravitate toward freedom in an effort to let off steam but risk it flying out of control ala Gorbachev; or crush dissent and reimpose order even though it will eventually destroy much of what they were achieving. The one thing it will do is preserve and strengthen their power for a while longer; and in the end for a power hungry hack like Xi, that's all that matters.

[Man Tran]

Anyone trip over this cyber attack that apparently hit our military?

Kinda ties in with the OPM hack.

https://scholars-stage.blogspot.com/2018/07/what-cyber-war-will-look-like.html?m=1

[Jim Eagle]

Here in the 1st District of NY State, Lee Zeldin is protecting his incumbency against a wall streeter cum socialist billionaire named Perrr Gershon. You read that correctly, billionaire hedge funder who is running as far to the left you can possibly get. And on Billionaires Row aka Meadow Lane where no property on the beach is appraised less than $25 million, there are Gershon signs.

They are socialists because they can be without consequence. Go to photos of the week at Powerline. They have a great side by side photo explanation.

[daddy]

Man shouts ‘Allahu akbar’ as he drives into French crowd

Local prosecutors said that the man was suffering from “relative mental confusion”

Thank goodness it wasn't Islam and verses in the Koran that caused him to engage in this gruesome act of terrorism. Now if only we could find out what causes all these cases of "Mental Confusion" to occur in Islamic individuals, then, Allah willing, we might actually be getting somewhere.

[Jim Eagle]

Interesting game under the Golden Dome. Wonder if Cathyf is there. The band will be out at half time. All 300+. Some band.

[sbwaters]

Man Tran, Democrats are using cyber-equivalent tactics now.

It’s not that Democrats don’t believe in democracy but that they don’t know why they should.

[sbwaters]

RG, everything around us is Syracuse orange, but in every sport we are smart enough to know never to bet for or against ’cuse.

You never know what team will show up.

[Clarice Feldman]

TK will like this--it's about birthright citizenship:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/09/trump_and_birthright_citizenship.html

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2018/09/15/new-york-times-roaring-trump-economy-change-how-it-measured

Brent Bozell does a pretty good job in this article.

[Marlene]

Jane @ 1:32...we're leaving Maine Oct.2 and will be in FL by Oct.6. That is the plan. On the 2nd we're driving two vehicles to southern Maine,because hubby is putting his Jeep on a car carrier. He really,really needs his Jeep in FL. :)

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/15/trump-allies-raise-2-million-for-midterms-in-key-state-of-california.html

Eric and Lara Trump plus Brad Parscale.

[Jim Eagle]

Marlene,

Congrats on the new grand-daughter.

Now that Frederick is at Canterbury, we probably will come down to the house for Christmas, and have him fly down from Hartford and join us. Then, depending on his calendar stay in 3 to 4 week segments. I'll check with my other son in Sarasota, the charter fishing capt., to see if we can get a party boat for Marlin. He's the best out of Siesta Key.

[daddy]

JMHanes, thank you for the text of the children's Progress--beautiful, I thought. And I've ordered the Ladder of Rickety Rungs!

Completely concur with Catsmeat. Those excerpts JMH posted from the "single syllable" Pilgrim's Progress is the first time that book sounded interesting enough to make me want to read it. And the Ladder or Rickety Rungs looked really interesting also, like covers of early "Mystery In Space" comics that I used to devour as a kid:


or

[narciso]

Not his first error in judgrment:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/jeffrey-archer-vote-jeremy-corbynif-lived-north/

[Pinandpuller]

It's Texas, Jake. A guy used deadly force to kill two illegals carrying his neighbor's TV. The guy in next door Louisiana got off for shooting the Japanese kid who got confused about the Halloween party.

I bet supers in Texas are real scrupulous about giving notice.

In the civil case at least there will be a breakdown of who contributed what to the incident.

[Jim Eagle]

narc,

Archer is an ex-criminal and felon prisoner, so yes, he is perfect for the Corbyn contingent of new wave nazis.

[Marlene]

Jack,that would be fun! The new baby is a grand-niece. A grandchild is probably not going to happen. We're okay with that,as I mentioned we have plenty of grand-nieces and grand-nephews!

[Clarice Feldman]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/carter-page-fisa-redactions-uncovering/
McCarthy surmises the content of the FISA redactions.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

More horse shit from The Guardian;
Yuval Noah Harari: the myth of freedom
They must get tired of guarding Marx's grave.

[anonamom]

JiB, a FYI re: your planning--Frederick is going to want to spend time with his buds on LI over his Christmas holiday, esp if he's in Europe over Thanksgiving.

Thanks for answering my key question, as it creeped me out supremely to think you were able to access other's rooms.
And heck yes, even with as relatively infrequently I stay in elevator dwellings--I've done that plenty too.

[Marlene]

We drove up north yesterday to visit my mother-in-law and she cried when we said good-bye. She is losing her eyesight and is frail. :(
It has been hot here and the leaves are just starting to turn,even up north.

[Tom R]

CH @2:22

The only comment I have about your question is that no one, even Trump supporters, should ever take any of Trump’s tweets 100% literally. Knowing he routinely engages in deception, all you can assume is that Trump is promoting a narrative about Sessions that he wants people to believe for reasons we can only guess.

[Bubarooni]

The yard is mowed and trimmed. The beer is cold. The Hoosiers won.

If ND finishes off Vandy this is gonna turn out to be a pretty good day.

[Pinandpuller]

It seems my understanding that the officer had not been living in that building very long. I wonder if officers in apartments feel more vulnerable?

I will tell you that "Intruders Will Be Shot. Survivors Will Be Shot Again." Is a Mission Statement many places. And since the average woman gives up so much in a fight to an average man I imagine it might go double for them.

I just watched a shooting where a dude who was on probation and known to the cops who stopped him jumped out and shot the lady officer in the leg. Her partner shot him in the head over his car and came around and put one more shot in him.

[daddy]

At the end of his meeting with the Youth of Sicily today, Pope Francis refused to give the Pontifical Blessing, as not to offend the "many non-Catholic christians, those of other religions, and the agnostics" present.

Matthew 5:14-16:

You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do people light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

Except for the non-catholic christians, the pagans, the agnostics and those of other reiigions. Nice job turning out the lights, Pope. It makes me wonder if the Church of England has offered Pope Che' a side job as Arch-Bishop of Canterbury.

[Jim Eagle]

anonamom,

The reason it was so easy for him to accept either Saint Thomas More or Canterbury is that most of his old Mercy friends live outside of Southampton. He is the only teen-ager south of Job's lane. You can find it on the map but there are no local teens for him that live in the Village. After Labor Day, we are a small village with the ocassional day tripper, or city people coming out on good weather weekends.

He is much more comfortable in Florida. Especially after the grueling load of Football and his academic load. I think he has more friends there locally than here. But thanks for your concern. He is playing his first scrimmage today. No streaming though.

[daddy]

Chronologies of Paul's life are approximate and debated by scholars. At some point around the year 59 he visited Syracuse where he preached - probably in the place where the paleo-Christian Church of Saint John was built. Whatever was said was expressed in Greek, the vernacular of Roman Sicily (where Latin was a second language). It is possible that a few Jews came to hear Paul talk, as there was a Jewish community at Syracuse. There was no subsequent "Letter of Paul to the Syracusans." However, there is no doubt that it was Paul who brought Christianity to Sicily, even though his stay in Syracuse lasted only three days before he departed for Reggio Calabria, Pozzuoli (near Naples) and then Rome.

So Apostle Paul brought Christianity to Sicily and Pope Francis removed Christianity from Sicily.

[Captain Hate]

Tom,

The only exception I'd take to your answer is that sometimes DJT tweets unreserved praise for people that have obviously done outstanding work.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Mostly more horse shit from The Atlantic;
Americans Aren’t Practicing Democracy Anymore

[narciso]

A wannabe hg wells, converting anecdote into social theory.

[Bubarooni]

ND gets a touchback!

whew...

[Jim Eagle]

daddy,

Don't get me started on Frank the Marxist. Everyone thinks Peronist means Marxist. No, it is more Fascist, like Mussolini Italy.

He is the product of a coup, led by Daneels of Belgium, and his leftist thinking clergy. At one time, I was defending his use of language because I thought his Argentine Spanish was wrongly translated to the juria Italian. But I am now woke. The guy is a disaster, and if you hear Dolan or read him, he agrees without saying it.

The church here is losing big time. Closing our school has pissed off over 3,000 families. No one is giving to the collection basket or the Bishop's appeal. It is a disaster for the diocese. Wait until they announce who is taking over the school property. All Hell on the East End will break out.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Total, unadulterated horse shit from The Atlantic;
The Most Honest Book About Climate Change Yet

William T. Vollmann’s latest opus is brilliant, but it offers no comfort to its readers.

The progs tell us we shouldn't listen to statisticians or engineers or physicists about the climate. They even try to dismiss William Happer one of the leading infrared dudes around because Trump tapped him for some gig, but we should should listen to some half wit fiction writer with a degree in comparative freakin literature.

It is either the left or the rest of us. That is the contest before us.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Regarding Pope Francis:

Blessing a whole crowd of all faiths never bothered Blessed St. John Paul.

Francis seems to go out of his way to disavow traditions and practices, not to mention theology and tenets of the Faith.

He also has that resting frowny face like John Brennan, which is only a coincidence but leaves me with a bad feeling.

[Captain Hate]

Jack,

This is why I call him the Peronist Pope:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/pope-francis-and-the-dirty-war

His Marxist turn is an attempt to get out from under that. Guilt is a powerful motivator those of weak character.

[Captain Hate]

...of those of weak...

[daddy]

Well jack,

I'll simply say that Pope Frances seems to have as big a case of "relative Mental Confusion" as the average Afghani refugee driving a Citroen in Paris. I recall that Peter denied Jesus 3 times before the cock crowed. Anybody keeping track of Frank's denials?

[daddy]

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