The 'Wrong Apartment' Shooting - A NY Times Scoop

The NY Times has coverage of the 'wrong apartment' shooting in Dallas. There detail about neighbors complaining about marijuana smoke is new to me (and to Google News), and provides a rationale for the seemingly gratuitous marijuana 'smear' of a few days back. My emphasis:

In an echo of past police killings, there has been anger over what seem to be attempts to incriminate the victim: Police released a search warrant that revealed that 10.4 grams of marijuana in multiple baggies had been found in Mr. Jean’s apartment.

“First they assassinate his person, then they assassinate his character,” Mr. Crump said.

Hours earlier that evening, managers at the apartment complex had received complaints from residents that there was a strong smell of marijuana in the fourth-floor hallways. Managers knocked on Mr. Jean’s door and at least five other doors inquiring about the smell, the Jean family lawyers said. It was unclear who on the floor was responsible for the odor.

OK, first, the Times cites as its source "Jean family lawyers", who held a press conference which included denunciations of the marijuana search and coverage. Did the Times get this 'neighbors complaining' detail separately, or did the rest of the media overlook its significance?

And what is the significance? Well, if - IF - Jean had been smoking marijuana and had cracked his apartment door in order to get some cross-ventilation, that would explain the neighbors' complaints and might answer the riddle of whether his door could have been ajar at times during the night, as Citizen Guyger claims. Kind of a big deal.

Other details which might lean a bit towards Citizen Guyger:

Mr. Jean’s relatives, lawyers and supporters all say it would have been difficult for the officer to have mistaken Mr. Jean’s door: It had a large, bright-red, semicircular doormat, lying on a bare concrete floor. Officer Guyger had none. Would she not have noticed?

“My main concern is that she is lying,” said Mr. Merritt, one of the Jean family lawyers.

But Officer Guyger’s supporters say she had her hands full at the time she arrived at Mr. Jean’s door: Officials said she had with her a police vest, duty bag and lunchbox — items she might be expected to carry to her own front door, not someone else’s.

Depending on how she is holding those items the floor and doormat might not be immediately visible. Nor, if she is on autopilot after a long day, would she be checking for prompts and clues as to her whereabouts.

I still believe that if evaluated as a police officer, Ms. Guyger's decision to shoot can not be justified; if it was too dark for her to see anything other than a silhouette, as she claims, it was too dark for her to see a weapon that could have elevated this to a deadly force situation. IMHO police training in de-escalation is woefully deficient but she could have simply stepped back out of the apartment, re-assessed, and called for back-up. My goodness, what if she had been at her own apartment door and the superintendent had been responding to a complaint about a leak and then decided to change a burned out lightbulb in her entranceway? She's going to shoot the guy?

Evaluated as a civilian in her own residence, the standards for the use of a weapon in self-defense are more lenient and a case for self-defense to prevent a robbery could be made (Texas Penal Code 9.31, 9.32). IF she had been in her own home, which of course she wasn't. And since the hallway was available, shooting just seems to me to be a second or third choice. She lived alone, so she had no reason to think anyone inside was in danger. Stand in the hallway and think things over. Count to ten.

Well. Hindsight is twenty-twenty.

AS BEST I CAN TELL: The NY Times stands alone on this, as best I see.

I await developments.

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[Miss Marple (the real one)]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/21/obama-administration-was-corrupt/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

[Momto2]

CH - Yes, it's me. (Auburn grad as are both of my children) Are you an LSU fan? If so - congratulations! It was a heartbreaker for us.

We still love Auburn, though!

[Pinandpuller]

To revisit my thoughts on the Iggy and The Stooge show, I envisioned Eyes Wide Shut masks on Skype talking religion between our hero and the mad copypasta adept. I soon realized that could grant too much exposure to The Darkness.

Why not look at The Bottle City of JOM as containing the contagion? We are all unsung heroes.

[Captain Hate]

No, Mom, I was just cheering for an exciting game. Sorry your War Eagles lost.

[Extraneus]

I haven't read the whole piece, but...

Did they say this because they believed it was true? Because they wanted to believe it was true? Because they had misplaced confidence in Christopher Steele, the former British spy who shared their anti-Trump contempt? Probably a bit of all those things.

Er, isn't there yet another possibility there, Andrew?

[Pinandpuller]

I dont know either Spyder Mungo or Alaska Thunderfuck. Just World Famous Wayne.

[Extraneus]

But the point is: You must always bear in mind that the incumbent leadership of the intelligence community had convinced itself that the Trump campaign was in cahoots with the Kremlin.

Er, no they didn't. They knew the dossier was bullshit.

This guy's such a tool.

[Janet 🚬]

KK's O'Keefe link at 6:49 is very good.

At about 7:15 he talks about what IS unethical & Bob Woodward.

Here's the link again - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfcrqH1mxE&feature=youtu.be

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

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[Kevlar Kid]

Pin:

Do you have any fav champs in food eating contests roundabouts there in yer neck of the woods....you know- fried twinkies, hot dogs, churros, kippers, or donuts?

[Jim Eagle]

Iggy,

I didn't say I was the first to post on Cohl Feury's theorys. You were, of course.

I am sort of surprised they put Bama against Auburn this early in the season. A lot of games like that, it seems. But I love to watch Alabama, not because I am a fan but because I love to watch disciplined football.

Yes, absolutely discipined. From the first tier player to the last tier player. You know your position, for every kind of play, you know your reaction. From the play book you know every play and every contingency when it goes bottoms up. It is drilled into you every day. But then when you were recruited you were in the top 100 if not 50 of the best high school players in America. Then you said to self and family, "why should I not play for Nick Saban." Really that simple.

As long as Nick is there, they will always be a highly ranked team. I used to put Frederick on my side and show him how Alabama works. Every coach should. They work plays differently because their kids are in shape, fast, and disciplined beyond their opponents.

When you break it all down. Nick gets the best kids then makes them better.

[Captain Hate]

Er, isn't there yet another possibility there, Andrew?

For a smart guy, he can be as dense as a neutron star.

[Extraneus]

I can't make it through the McCarthy piece. I'm sure there's some good info mixed in with the stupidity, but I'm not inclined to go prospecting for it at the moment. If anyone can quote some of the good stuff, it would be much appreciated.

[Captain Hate]

That was LSU, Jack, not Bama; I think they're playing Ol' Miss.

[daddy]

Wait a minute...now I may have no idea what an octonian actually is but I do know what first is. Who posted a story about Feury and octonians first around these parts?

It's all relative Iggy, and certainly it depends upon what dimension you posted it in.

From "Elegant Universe", (Published 1999) here's my quick cutting and pasting and hopefully short explanation of why these eggheads came up with String Theory in the first place and why they remain so attached to it:

Pg 182) String Theory is the only way we know of to merge general relativity and quantum mechanics.

pg 13) We could go on but the idea is clear: the universe is the way it is because the matter and force particles have the properties they do. But is there a scientific explanation for why they have these properties?

String Theory offers a powerful conceptual paradigm in which, for the first time, a framework for answering these questions has emerged.

The particles in Figure 1 (atoms, electrons, protons, neutrons, quarks) are the "letters" of all matter. Just like their linguistic counterparts they appear to have no further internal substructure. String Theory proclaims otherwise...if we could examine these particles with even greater precision---many orders of precision beyond our current technology---we would find that each is not pointlike, but instead consists of a tiny one-dimensional loop. Like an infinitely thin rubber band...a vibrating, oscillating, dancing filament...

Pg 130) The size of these strings---The Planck Length? ...a millionith of a billionith of a billionith of a billionth of a centimeter(10-33) if we were to magnify an atom to the size of the known universe, the Planck Length would barely expand to the height of an average tree.

So why the need to postulate super-microscopic dancing strings?

Pages 140-144 (My babbling)---if you apply variations of Euler's 200 year old equation having to do with explaining the vibrations of a violin string, you come up with vibrations that have the properties of a quark, and then octave's up have the properties of electron's, and then octave's up emerge as the properties of a proton, and gravity and etc, ---beguilingly seductive stuff.

I think it is the passion and potential understanding aroused within that seductively interesting idea that keeps these guys so enthralled, but the flip side, IIRC like I believe Feynmann immediately recognized when he begged of String Theory, is what Dumbledore warns Harry Potter about after his afternoon of staring at The Mirror of Erised:

“Can you think what the Mirror of Erised shows us all?" Harry shook his head.

"Let me explain. The happiest man on earth would be able to use the Mirror of Erised like a normal mirror, that is, he would look into it and see himself exactly as he is. Does that help."

Harry thought. Then he said slowly, "It shows us what we want... whatever we want..."

"Yes and no," said Dumbledore quietly.
"It shows us nothing more or less than the deepest, most desperate desire of our hearts. You, who have never known your family, see them standing around you. Ronald Weasley, who has always been overshadowed by his brothers, sees himself standing alone, the best of all of them. However, this mirror will give us neither knowledge or truth. Men have wasted away before it, entranced by what they have seen, or been driven mad, not knowing if what it shows is real or even possible.

And that's all I have to say about that.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Why not look at The Bottle City of JOM as containing the contagion? We are all unsung heroes.--

That's funny...and a little sad.

[Kevlar Kid]

Andrew McCarthy said:

"I hope the president follows through, at least to the extent he can do so without putting intelligence methods and sources at risk. Accountability is essential here."

Made up b.s. bought and paid for by one of the most corrupt individuals in American history and circulated by some of the most perverted individuals in American history, and protected by one of the slimiest pricks in American history--- those sources and methods?

Sheesh. Whatcha been drinkin and how much, Andy?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Iggy,

I didn't say I was the first to post on Cohl Feury's theorys. You were, of course.--

Was only joshin' JiB. Plenty of glory for both of us.
Sic transit spyder mungo or something.

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

Bama plays Ole Miss. LSU played Auburn. I screwed that up. But Bama is still a beast with dueling QB's.

[Jane#walkaway]

MM, what is NWS?

[Kevlar Kid]

Spyder done been caught in Iggy's filter. Free him.

[Janet 🚬]

Screw National Review & Andrew McCarthy.
They blew it.
They sided with the entrenched scoundrels, liars, & grifters against 'We The People'.

[Extraneus]

Good link, Janet.

[Kevlar Kid]

Yes: "Screw National Review & Andy McCarthy"

[Extraneus]

Maybe we the people should look into these sacrosanct sources and methods.

[daddy]

Maybe "failed to confirm" would be more accurate.

WEll said, Boris. My bad.

[Captain Hate]

4d or not, according to what JackStraw has been posting, what they're uncovering is huge and the corruption goes back at least to the GWB administration and maybe earlier than that. Forget small trash jokes like Watergate, this blows all the collected scandals since the start of the country out of the water. This could permanently impact how people think about the federal government. The only thing I can compare it to is how my parents generation thought about the Depression.

I don't think McCarthy's brain can process the magnitude of it.

[Clarice Feldman]

Plus feynman was very cute and very funny.

[Kevlar Kid]

Andy McCarthy said: "We’ve had a lot to say about Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s failure to comply with federal regulations that require showing a factual basis for a criminal investigation — i.e., reason to believe that a crime was committed — before appointing a special counsel, Robert Mueller. But Rosenstein was just riding the tide. The FISA warrants show that this practice of launching a criminal investigation in the absence of a crime long predated Rosenstein and Mueller. "

So.F*cking. What?

[Texas Liberty Gal]

I think Dersowitz is full of it, None of the new charges against Manafort have anything to do with Trump or his campaign.

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

If is generational deep, it will remain silent to the American public. Who, of consequence wil reveal it, who will believe it, and then who will push it forward.

I agree but I don't even think can make it a top hit in America's psyche.

Wish he could.

[Jim Eagle]

...think Trump can make it....

[Clarice Feldman]

ditto daddy, on quantum physics.

[Janet 🚬]

Look how hard O'Keefe & Project Veritas work.
Real investigative journalism uncovering corruption....like David Daleiden & CMP with the undercover Planned Parenthood videos.

Contrast them with the lazy old Dem/media machine taking dictation from corrupt govt. employees, from marketing businesses like Fusion GPS, & from leftist advocacy organizations.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Jane,

National Weather Service.

I just saw another post which said some areas would get over 50" (FOUR FEET) of rain due to the slow movement of the storm.

[boatbuilder]

On the thread topic:

Is there some reason other than morbid curiosity why anyone besides the immediate players involved should be concerned about this story?

[jim nj]

I posted the article on Octonians just before bringing the hot-spot back to the library. Interesting that it is still being discussed. I'd like to say I understood it all, but, alas no. The big thing that hit me that it seemed to be Math based on the eight primary particles.

[narciso79]

Well its travesty of justice, almost an exact inversion of the Minneapolis case.

[Captain Hate]

I don't know, Jack; he's our only chance to reveal it.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Captain Hate,

I saw a post today by Imperator Rex which discussed this very thing.

His opinion was that with the corruption and bad actions being so wide-spread and for so long, Trump was moving very deliberately and slow. Removing everyone in Justice, FBI, and other agencies would effectively decapitate the government and cause wide-spread panic.

In my opinion, Trump is moving methodically.

1. Remove Deep State funding. This would include stopping foreign money, stopping crime syndicates which pay off people in agencies and Congress, going over budgets and asking about slush funds and mysterious projects, etc.

2. Remove influence of the media and press. This has been well underway and continues. This also includes Hollywood, who are losing influence by the day.

3. Get Americans up to speed on what has been going on, although gradually so that people don't panic.

4. When all of these are far enough along, drop the hammer.

This is why those of us who are already well aware of what's been going on get impatient. It's a plan which makes sense to me if it is what is really going on. Of course, it's only my theory.

[Extraneus]

Btw, there's no "intelligence community." There are intelligence "services." And who or what are they supposed to be servicing?

Not communities.

MF'ers need to be totally exposed, including "sources and methods."

[Jim Eagle]

jim nj,

It is for me, an engineer in higher math (Ops research), a very interesting concept, and thanks for bringing Dr. Feury to our attention. She is on a lonely track and I wish her well. These are the complications of computations that keep you awake at night. Thank God, I decided to forfeit doctoral for working in the real life. I would still be baffled by what I can't believe. She is going through the same process.

[daddy]

I see that Dershowitz has raised fears about the Manafort Plea Deal, whereas Andy McCarthy 2 columns back has said there's nothing there so don't worry a bit.

Without any inside knowledge I gravitate to Dersh's worries because Dershowitz, being a lawyer who sued the Boston Garden because he slipped on the wet floor of the toilet at some Celtic's Game, Dershowitz knows full well how unethical Lawyers can be, whereas how many times have we seen Andy M show up on FOX and Friends explaining how he never dreamed his former colleagues in the DOJ would do whatever their latest egregiously unethical and illegal act was. My general recommendation to Andy M is that he has somebody tattoo the name Ted Stevens backward on his forehead so that every time he looks in a mirror he reads the Ted Stevens, and his memory is triggered about how the FBI/DOJ intentionally coached their "Star Witness" to lie under Oath, thereby handing the Senate Seat to Mark Begich and giving Obama his 60th Vote for ObamaCare.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Manafort docs reveal he got Ben Shapiro to write propaganda for Breitbart in 2012 to help his Putin-linked interests in Ukraine. Ha. Ah ha ha ha. Ah hahahahahahahaha. pic.twitter.com/XU28JGa4JJ

— Cody Johnston (@drmistercody) September 15, 2018

Link goes to screen cap document excerpts.

I cannot tell you how happy it makes me to see this little posing weasel exposed.

[narciso79]

Yes its a convenient subterfuge, like piranhas in stank scrambling over one scrap of meat, dia we the judicial watch findings is more analytical, the company monitors foreign interaction, the bureau dimeatic ones, but one of the scandals here was the bureau was extending its jurisduction abroad, a d the company domestically.

[Jim Eagle]

I don't think Bama needs my help here, so I am off to the original Star Wars series.

[Captain Hate]

I gotta admit, Miss Marple, what I've derided as foot dragging may in fact be the best way to approach this; particularly since people that just watch the alphabets for their news have no idea of this. I mean they're barely at Square A1.

[Pinandpuller]

I dunno Kev. Did Stand by Me have the pie eating contest?

I'm thrashing in your Spyder Thread

Leave a message and I'll call you back

[Jim Eagle]

49-7. Not final but at half time. Bama v. Ole Miss.

Not fair. Bama is just too physical and fast. And Ole Miss is not your run over kid of team. I see another national championship.

[Captain Hate]

They both can be wrong, Tarhole.

Btw, congratulations on having a cancellation today so your school didn't get humiliated like Maryland.

[Captain Hate]

Watch USC/Texas, Jack, on Fox.

[Momto2]

How sick are leftists you ask?

Pulling up flags and peeing on veteran's graves - that crazy! AND they've been identified...(language alert but if ever it deserves it- this may be the time.)

https://twitter.com/BarbarianinSF/status/1040350267819143168

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Finally, a cure for insomnia?
Unfortunately it looks like you might have to move to the UK, MM.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Captain Hate,

I have thought about this a lot, because of the make-up of my family. My dem sister will be in shell shock when this is revealed, as will my daughter. Neither one likes Trump at all and think Obama did a good job. My old classmate from high school will be the same way.

These are people who will have to have definitive evidence and proof, or they won't believe it at all. Now multiply that by millions.

That is why I don't get upset that thinks aren't moving at rapid speed. If Trump had rounded them all up right after the Inauguration (as they richly deserved) there would have been blood in the streets.

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

Either of them don't have the defense to take on Bama. Ole Miss is a SE conference team. They may get the 2nd and 3rd applicants but they get more than USC and Texas. No contest against Bama.

I am a Gator, and Bearcat fan, so I have no reason to pump anyone up or lower anyone down, but Bama is a complete team. Its what Sabin and his crew does every year.

[Jim Eagle]

Off to dreamland.

Have to take the Beagles upstairs since they are using their lungs to wake all the early sleepers up.

Tot morgen, slaap lekker.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

So about that minumum wage thing;
Maduro's huge salary increases force 40% percent of Venezuelan stores to close.
I guess there are going to be a lot of new creative people painting lawn gnomes and strumming their guitars and really boosting the economy now, according to Nancy Pelosi's unemployment theories.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I see another national championship.--

Who's that chicky that follows hubris?

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Ignatz,

I have discovered that what I need to do is keep my brain from overtime thinking. If I am lying in the quiet and dark, my brain starts running on finances, family problems, plans for yardwork, etc.

What I try to do is listen to something on live feed which distracts me and keeps my brain enough occupied that I am not overcome with worry. Last night I listened to the hurricane coverage, which put me to sleep fairly quickly. Some nights I listen to videos playing one after another from the White House YouTube site. In addition, some nights I also play a game on my iPad which is geometric and has no characters or plot.

The WORST thing for me is staring off into the dark and quiet.

[boatbuilder]

Re: Paul Ryan. Is he really so dense that he doesn't know this isn't about statistics?

He's supposed to be a politician. Isn't the proper and competent politician's response to say "I don't think this is really about how post-hurricane deaths are measured, which is a relatively new and uncharted discipline. This is about a biased media's attempt to manipulate and abuse a tragic natural disaster in the service of their favored political agenda."

Is that so hard?

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Retweeted by President Trump. Link goes to video and story.

⚡️ “Hurricane Florence Response”

Disaster response requires teamwork and coordination at all levels. Check out the incredible teams that have come together from across the nation to prepare for and respond to Hurricane Florence. https://t.co/w0z6jEv4f2

— FEMA (@fema) September 15, 2018

[narciso]

Sometimes things are nearly this strange:

http://numbersixwasinnocent.blogspot.com/2009/09/mcgoohan-on-my-mind-time-has-come.html?m=1

[boatbuilder]

Ext--I don't know exactly what Dersh said on MSNBC, but that Salon article appears to take one sentence, sans context, and run with it.

[GUS]

Capn, I don't care if this goes back to George Effing Washington. Bring down the MOTHERFUCKERS that you CAN CLEARLY SEE involved in the DOSSIER/FISA and COUP. There is the rest of time to find out who pissed on President Polk Furina.

McCarthy is back tracking meekly, because he was so stupid for so long, and now wants to pretend he is on the WHITE HAT SIDE.

[mad jack]

Man Tran: re: your sailing inquiry a thread or so ago. i was racing a J22. just got home with the boat a couple of hours ago. due to area flooding they opened a lot of area sluices so the Chesapeake was running crazy fast. fun week but three 60+ old guys are a little long in the tooth trying to keep up with a field stacked with pros and college all American sailors. we did learn alot so we should clean up on our home fleet next season...maybe:-)

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Screw National Review & Andrew McCarthy. --

Scott Johnson demurs.

The invaluable Andrew McCarthy has now cracked open the window a little wider in two columns with one theme: FISA Docs Show: Long Before Mueller, Trump-Russia Was an Investigation Without a Crime. The first column (posted yesterday afternoon) is “Reading the FISA redactions.” The second is “In the Russia Probe, It’s ‘Qui S’excuse S’accuse’” (posted this morning — the French expression is to the effect that “he who excuses himself accuses himself”).

These are long, detailed, illuminating and educational columns that draw on McCarthy’s professional expertise. Stick with them — both of them. Do not miss either one.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Donald Trump interview from 1980https://t.co/gpTgXV2BEG

— America the Great (@Mytweetsmyviews) September 15, 2018

Video at link.

[narciso]

What was Watergate really about, why was the establishment in large part against Nixon, it wasn't political surveillance that was standard practice since the 40s, campaign finance, roman please, because the post war framework had broken down, that Chenga board of precariously placed pieces.

[boatbuilder]

Also I am afraid I agree with our rude pest E. D. that neither Ryan nor Andy McCarthy are dense or naive. They are active protectors of the swamp.

[narciso]

Take Vietnam we had drifted into that fustercluck for nearly 20 years, since the oss detachment 101 provided logistical support to ho chi Minh,

[boatbuilder]

MM--may I suggest reading Pilgrim's Progress?

[narciso]

We then became involved in the French proxy rematch and after a time we replaced them as guarantors of the regime.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

boatbuilder,

HA! Reading something difficult and wordy will do it as well. Don't have anything that currently qualifies.

[narciso]

A role we dispensed with when Lucien cone in, the Corsican born Frenchman helped depose diem. That part moy ar has focused on, the minor successes we had incurred against the viet Minh were secured mostly through work with proxies.

[boatbuilder]

Hey, madjack! The outboard ballast doesn't shift as efficiently as it did in days of yore, eh?

[narciso]

As a result they created a merrygoround of junior officers, none of whom had the confidence of the people.

[boatbuilder]

mm--I am currently rereading Robertson Davies as my late night cure. The problem is it's too interesting. It is difficult and wordy. Also the Patrick O'Brian Aubrey-Maturin series is difficult, wordy and absolutely fascinating, and will take you well into your second century...

[jim nj]

I've been reading some of the "look-back" articles on the 2008 financial panic. Most of them are clueless after 10 years of possible reflection and studies that ensued from the event.

They point with childish simplicity at this or that, completely missing the point. 2008 was the worst financial panic that the US had ever seen. It was a near-total collapse of all the markets at once. Pointing at this or that aspect just doesn't cut it. It might suit your worldview or your politics to decry some aspect or other.

None of them look at Ginnie Mae, Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac as the ones who set up the panic in the first place by adopting Michael Milkins' junk bond concepts and applying them to the home mortgage market.

But if any of them did that, you would realize that only happened because Congress allowed it to happen. They exhibited no oversight of those agencies and their increasing stupid schemes that brought in low-quality borrowers. In fact they encouraged it by forcing banks to make riskier loans due to the "Community Banking Act" of 1977. "Activists" complained every time a banking license was up for renewal that whatever the bank's name was they weren't doing enough business in inner cities.

[narciso]

Yes they agonizingly miss the point, instead of looking Into the abyss, they look away, instead they blame deregulation (A dodge as you notice, one particular set of regulations, are implicated)

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I loved The Prisoner and still do.
Nothing remotely like it has been made and the time anything could be has long since passed.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

boatbuilder,

This is akin to how I would go to choir practice back inthe 80's and be all exhausted, and then when we were done, I would be all energized. I think it was because when you are doing choral singing, you have a host of things to concentrate on: notes, breathing, pronunciation, timing, volume, etc.

By the time I left rehearsal, I would feel all energetic. I assume it was because my brain was distracted from everyday worries.

I think my insomnia problem is related, which is why I choose things which occupy my mind passively (listening) without making me do heavy duty thinking.
It's enough that I follow along with the talking and pretty soon, I am getting drowsy.

[mad jack]

boat: the outboard ballast is way heavier and slower. actually had to weigh-in to compete in this event. 605 is the crew limit. my goal was the mendoza line and i hit it on the number. only thing i did well on all week other than the post race parties.

[narciso]

That series I mentioned in the link, is the precursor.

[Captain Hate]

Big Robertson Davies fan here.

In case rich shows up, this is my brew of the evening:

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/193/191448/?view=beer&sort=&start=0

Although this is barrel aged in Wild Turkey casks, at only 6% it's not the booze bomb that the stouts tend to be and is a refreshing Porter for the stultifying heat in the last weekend of the summer. Although we aren't directly impacted by the hurricane, that massive stationary low pressure system keeps cold fronts from continuing their east to west movement and stacks them up to the west of here and doesn't let them flush this pukey air away.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

jim,
What are your thoughts as a finance guy on the response by the feds to the panic?

I'm pretty sure you probably disagree with my laissez faire, libertarian, let the idiots and the whole place burn so the survivors can start fresh perspective.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Yeah, I was like Danger Man, Danger Man? Oh, you mean Secret Agent Man!

[Captain Hate]

Also I am afraid I agree with our rude pest E. D. that neither Ryan nor Andy McCarthy are dense or naive. They are active protectors of the swamp.

As obnoxious as some of you find E. D. ignore him at your peril.

[narciso]

Nixon was trying to engage in the path not taken, ala Templars strategy for Malaysia, or something akin to the strategy that galula had laid out.

[jim nj]

So the media never exaggerates?

Too funny.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/15/another-fakenews-video-cnn-anderson-cooper-hypes-hurricaneflorence-flooding-meanwhile-firefighters-spoof-tv-news/

And click the link in the article to see another faker.

[boatbuilder]

Well it goes without saying that you continue to live up to your impeccably high standards in the post-race parties.

It's reassuring to know there are some things that can forever be counted upon in this increasingly chaotic and unstable world.

[narciso]

Yes Marty has picked up some insights along the way, his Adrian monk persona gets in the way of further headway.

[Beasts of England]

I'm glad McCarthy is starting to see the light, but he did a lot of damage casting shade for Mueller as a stand-up guy.

[Captain Hate]

It didn't take too much coaxing to convince Vanderbilt Poofter to partially submerge his body in liquids.

[narciso]

It appears to me that considering the reputation. Of players like Geithner Paulson and co, they behaved awfully strangely, their job was to serve as a,life guard but they were strategically awol.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/15/nunes-declassify-fisa-trump/

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said this week that Democrats and the media are likely to be “frightened” by the information contained in Trump-Russia documents that Republicans are asking President Trump to declassify.

[boatbuilder]

Well, Captain, I ignore every post that begins with "Tommy Boy." And most of the others. I finished junior high school about 45 years ago.

[mad jack]

boat: i have to admit my personal "last call" is a lot earlier then it used to be. coincidentally, nite all.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Mark Meadows
‏Verified account @RepMarkMeadows
4h4 hours ago

Mark Meadows Retweeted Donald J. Trump

I have consistently heard the same from folks on the ground--state and local teams are receiving above and beyond support from the federal level. Thank you @realDonaldTrump @fema and all involved for helping NC and SC get on the road to recovery.

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The retweet goes to President Trump's comment to Brock and the FEMA thanks for all of the support.

[Miss Marple (the real one)]

Exclusive -- Donald Trump Jr. to Obama: My Dad Fixed the Economy You Could Not https://t.co/HXuSBGFmf2 via @BreitbartNews

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 16, 2018

Link goes to photo and story.

[jim nj]

Iggy,

It was so bad the FED had to deploy tools it had never used before, didn't know they were allowed to use, probably broke several laws in the process or had some extremely clever lawyers pointing out that it may not be allowed but it isn't explicitly barred.

Actually, I'd be fine with a hands-off, to the victor go the spoils approach, if it had only been the institutions involved.

And I think the FED was trying to that. They were going to let Lehman Brothers fail. They were in talks about how to save Lehman Brothers by some other financial entity, but when private talks broke down, they didn't try to impose a settlement.

There was an earlier investment firm that the FED helped (the name eludes me) and I think them got to thinking that that wasn't a good precedent. Something they should be doing on a day to day basis.

Let me know if you can remember the one before Lehman.

One thing I do remember about Lehman was that their leverage ration 25-30:1. That's not an investment bank. That's a hedge fund or a badly run casino.