OK, This Is Dreadful

Hillary and Obama got mail packages with bombs similar to the Soros device? Crazy behavior by an out-of-control nutjob. 

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[hrtshpdbox]

Doesn't Bill Ayers have anything better to do than use his old bag of tricks to try to make conservatives look like the crazies?

[Jim Eagle]

Box is spot on. I smell an October Surprise Rat of the Progressive colors.

[henry]

Pipe bomb intercepted on way to White House too.

[henry]

CNBC claims CNN got a bomb too and Time Warner Center evacuated in NYC. But the White House did not (per anonymous source).

[Captain Hate]

Soooo will the MFM fixate on this more than they did the white powder sent to the Kushners or whatever Trump family members?

[Extraneus]

Who'd want to kill Obama,and why? He's no threat to anyone anymore. Soros is a different story.

[Captain Hate]

At this stage the Bathhouse Rat is worth more to the progs dead than alive.

[jimmyk]

Anyone heard anything about the guy who was arrested for those ricin letters to the WH and Mattis? Seems like he was just a general whack job. But the MFM seems very excited to declare that whoever is doing this is a white male Republican Trump supporter.

[jimmyk]

Anyone heard anything about the guy who was arrested for those ricin letters to the WH and Mattis? Seems like he was just a general whack job. But the MFM seems very excited to declare that whoever is doing this is a white male Republican Trump supporter.

[henry]

ᴄʜɪʟʟ
@TheChiIIum

A suspicious package containing a pipe bomb that was addressed to the White House was intercepted at Joint Base Bolling in Washington, DC.
9:53am · 24 Oct 2018

[Extraneus]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-24/saudi-crown-prince-mohammed-calls-turkeys-president-erdogan

[henry]

Consumer protection is a protection racket of it's own:

CNBC @CNBC
14m

Italian anti-trust watchdog fines Apple and Samsung for allegedly slowing down their phones on purpose

[rse]

Having a terrible time accessing jom this morning.

[Janet]

a reminder -

" "The campaign pays DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, the Foval Group goes and executes the shit on the ground... Democracy Partners is the tip of the spear on that stuff." ....

“I’m saying we have mentally ill people, that we pay to do shit, make no mistake,” says [Democrat activist Scott] Foval in the video. “Over the last twenty years, I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I’ve also taken them for dinner, and I’ve also made sure they had a hotel, and a shower. And I put them in a program. Like I’ve done that. But the reality is, a lot of people especially our union guys. A lot of our union guys…they’ll do whatever you want. They’re rock and roll. When I need to get something done in Arkansas, the first guy I call is the head of the AFL-CIO down there, because he will say, ‘What do you need?’ And I will say, I need a guy who will do this, this and this. And they find that guy. And that guy will be like, Hell yeah, let’s do it.”

"It doesn't matter what the friggin' legal and ethics people say, we need to win this motherfucker," Foval also said."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/17/new_okeefe_video_clinton_campaign_dnc_coordinated_with_organizations_to_beat_up_trump_supporters.html

[henry]

ᴄʜɪʟʟ @TheChiIIum
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Device sent to CNN at the Time Warner Center was addressed to former CIA Dir John Brennan, according to CNN.

[henry]

ᴄʜɪʟʟ @TheChiIIum
2m

A suspicious package was sent to Governor Cuomo's office in NY. Investigation ongoing.

[henry]

ᴄʜɪʟʟ @TheChiIIum
9m

Sunrise Florida Police confirm that an office building has been evacuated due to a suspicious package sent by mail. It would be the same building where Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz is located.

[henry]

ᴄʜɪʟʟ @TheChiIIum
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If you include the suspicious packages and ricin incidents aimed at the White House and family of the President - this is the third wave. Wait two days, if there aren’t anymore “devices” - it’s over.

[henry]

ᴄʜɪʟʟ @TheChiIIum
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If you include the suspicious packages and ricin incidents aimed at the White House and family of the President - this is the third wave. Wait two days, if there aren’t anymore “devices” - it’s over.

[Jane]

Dems are behind these bombs in an attempt to save the election - IMO

See latest O'Keefe video: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/17/new_okeefe_video_clinton_campaign_dnc_coordinated_with_organizations_to_beat_up_trump_supporters.html?fbclid=IwAR1x4jRBnvQd9CBSvq-UdRoQ0Kx9TV0xCMjr4CtJgskIUmPqmC09talmOBs

[henry]

Ali Velshi @AliVelshi
9m

BREAKING: Three senior law enforcement officials tell NBC the return address name on the suspicious packages found at Clinton, Obama, and Soros’ addresses belongs to DNC official Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

[Janet]

Jane, that is not the latest O'Keefe video.
That video is from 2016 when the Dems admitted they hired mentally ill people.

[henry]

Caravan not slowed down.

The Wall Street Journal @WSJ
6m

Willa weakens to a tropical depression over Mexico as authorities worked to assess damage from a storm that hit the Pacific coast as a Category 3 hurricane

[matt - deplore me if you must]

I think that Beto O'Rourke has become the punchline to a bad joke at this point.

Out here we have a Laguna Beach liberal trying to make offshore drilling the central issue of his campaign. All of this to energize the base. The asshole doesn't understand horizontal drilling, which is what keeps the oil bidness alive in California.

As to the bombs I find it very odd that they all show up on the same day all over the country. I would presume ATF and SS are looking at shipping information. It would seem to indicate a sole sender, or worse, coordinated senders. It smells, that's for sure.

[Captain Hate]

On the slow pace of the OIG:

I believe that is one of the reasons Trump is moving slowly and cautiously. When all is brought public it will be an enormous shock to those who really haven't been paying attention or think Obama and Clinton couldn't possibly have done what they did. It could cause a real crisis of confidence in government and that is going to be tough to rebuild."

Another reason for going slow is that there were WAY too many members of the GOP that were deeply involved in all of this (look how the Bush Family machine hates Trump so much) and he has to make sure that he's got firm control of his own side before he takes any big risks. He's making a big step towards that goal now that McCain, Flake, and Corker are out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2018 12:02 PM (Kpl3J)

[mockmook]

Dreadful?

Perhaps. Assuming the "devices" are more powerful than a firecracker.

But, yes, it is dreadful that some likely leftist is likely trying to hurt GOP chances in November.

[Dave (in MA)]

Bombs not mobs?

[mockmook]

Have the servers at JOM Central been hit by one of the "bombs"?

[JOM is loading VERY SLOWLY at the moment]

[mockmook]

CH,

That is ridiculous.

Either there is evidence of Deep State sabotage or there isn't.

If there is evidence, then the American people will be behind going after the perps (regardless who it is).

[Jack is Back!]

Not only is JOM slow but a fair warning to Apple IOS users, the new macOS Mojave update is taking over an hour to install on my MacBook Air.

[rich]

clean up and maintenance?

slow here too.

disgruntled Bernie Bro? about as conservative as the organizers of Charlottesville

[sbwaters]

Did someone link to an article in recent days that compared “Power” and “Force”.

I can’t find my link.

[henry]

BREAKING: NYPD Commissioner O'Neill says an envelope of white powder was also found at CNN's New York office along with a live explosive device; NYC Mayor de Blasio says it was an "act of terror" and there are no other credible threats in the city

[henry]

MSNBC @MSNBC
15m

BREAKING: Authorities intercept suspicious package that was sent to former AG Eric Holder, officials tells @PeteWilliamsNBC.

[Another Bob]

“A good rule on the hoax front is the lack of a suspect. When the suspect is assumed to be the spooky villain of every moonbat campfire story, it's a hoax. When the cops have some idea of who did it, it tends to be both real and the work of a nutter.”

So far, looks like a hoax.“

[Jane]

Seems to me justice would be finding that an Hondurian illegal paid off by the democrats sent these bombs.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

I believe this has proven to be false
ᴄʜɪʟʟ
@TheChiIIum

A suspicious package containing a pipe bomb that was addressed to the White House was intercepted at Joint Base Bolling in Washington, DC.
9:53am · 24 Oct 2018

[Another Bob]

I’m having a hard time believing the coordination of this.

Six, eight items all arriving at disparate locations within hours? (The Soros claim being an outlier.)

[Texas Liberty Gal]

A lot of false info being reported - here Is another example

Ali Velshi @AliVelshi
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BREAKING: Three senior law enforcement officials tell NBC the return address name on the suspicious packages found at Clinton, Obama, and Soros’ addresses belongs to DNC official Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

[henry]

TLG... that has been off and on. TP stability prevented a correction. So far nothing at White House is latest update.

[Captain Hate]

Mockmock,

The MFM is still pushing that the 2016 election was illegitimate. You can believe what you want but I find it far from ridiculous that people would currently reject facts about the deep state and foreign entities trying to subvert an election.

[Jane]

It's been a lot worse than "slow for me.Inaccessible and says it's a "host" error. Takes several attempts to get in, and more to post. Yet here I am. Jane

[Man Tran]

Rush related that several of the bombs had Debbie Snaggletooth Shultz’s return address.

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

OMG! It's an attack on our elites.

[JMHanes]

Doubling down on stupid (emphasis mine):

Last December the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that the overdose rate increased 21% from 2015 to 2016. This month the CDC reported provisional numbers showing another 10% increase in 2017. All of this is happening despite federal and state efforts, using practice guidelines and prescription surveillance programs, that have led to a drop in high-dose opioid prescribing of 41% from 2010 to 2016, and another 16% in 2017. Those same policies have caused heroin and illicit fentanyl (largely smuggled in from Asia employing drug cartel infrastructure) to become the predominant causes of opioid-related overdose deaths as non-medical users migrated over to those cheaper and more available drugs. Yet the new legislation provides funding to augment and enhance prescription surveillance programs.

That’s because the opioid overdose crisis was never really about doctors treating their patients in pain. It has always primarily been caused by non-medical users accessing drugs through the dangerous black market that results from drug prohibition. The overwhelming majority of those overdose victims have multiple drugs in their system when they overdose. The New York City Department of Health reported in 2016 that three-quarters of all overdose deaths were either heroin or fentanyl, and 97% of those overdose victims have multiple drugs onboard — 46% of the time that drug included cocaine. This hardly fits the profile of a patient receiving medical treatment for pain.

The real "victims" here are the increasing numbers of patients suffering needless, sometimes excruciating, pain. I also wouldn't want to be a doctor forced to ration painkiller prescriptions lest I flag the interest of the feds. What we are seeing is an entirely predictable, law enforcement generated, triage that has nothing to do with patient needs or best practices in medicine.

[Clarice Feldman]

I'm feeling left out. OTOH the mail hasn't yet arrived.

[henry]

Supreme Court rulings matter:

Complicating the matter is a recent U.S. Supreme Court case called Janus v. AFSCME. Last June, a majority of justices on the Supreme Court held that it was a violation of the First Amendment’s free speech clause for government to require non-union members to pay fair-share dues. Even if a Governor Evers could solve the fiscal issues of Act 10 repeal noted above, he must abide by Janus.

http://www.will-law.org/will-blog-act-10-repeal-look-like/

[Captain Hate]

Aren't there regular deliveries of white powder to the Kalorama Kompound?

[JMHanes]

From CNN:

The suspicious package sent to Wasserman Schultz's Florida office was intended for former Attorney General Eric Holder but had the wrong address, two law enforcement sources said. It was returned to the Democratic congresswoman because that was the return label on the package, the sources said, adding that it was the same return address for the packages sent to Obama and Clinton.

I'm sorry, but that's LOL funny!

[sbwaters]

Found it!--

Author Edward Luttwak made the distinction between force and power in his fascinating book "The Grand Strategy of the Roman Empire: From the First Century CE to the Third":

power is persuading people to cooperate, force is making them obey.

Power is people choosing of their own accord to comply, for reasons they find sound and that serves their self-interest; there is little need for the application of force.

Power is highly leveraged; a relatively small police/military and judiciary is all that's needed.

Force, in contrast, doesn't scale: it's enormously costly in capital and labor to monitor an entire populace and impose control and obedience.

[mockmook]

henry,

The old saw about "what army will the SC use to enforce its rulings" needs to be updated:

How will the SC enforce its rulings when lower courts ignore them?

[Texas Liberty Gal]

I hate to disagree with Rush but I believe that was an early report that has been debunked. Latest report was that one of the suspicious packages was in fact sent to her.

[henry]

more clown AG's at work:

CNBC @CNBC

New York sues Exxon Mobil, alleging company misled investors on risk of climate change

[Jim Eagle]

henry,

But its the weather that is causing people to leave NY for Florida:)

[henry]

JiB, sure. 90+ degrees, mosquitos, rattlesnakes, pythons, and alligators plus the impending doom of AGW enhanced hurricane / sharknado events. That's a heck of a draw compared to a little snow.

[henry]

CNN, so might be fake:

Breaking911 @Breaking911
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JUST IN: A suspicious package has been intercepted at a Congressional mail screening facility in Capitol Heights, Maryland - CNN

[Old Lurker]

TLG "I hate to disagree with Rush but..."

Well, I hate to disagree with Cap'n...but I do.

[JMHanes]

I must say, Drudge's front page has certainly gotten livelier. When I checked in earlier this am, it was depressingly replete with articles touting Dem advantages from Gillum to Beto, with the odds on Dem's taking the House set at 85%, etc. etc. I almost didn't have the heart to click on Senate slipping away, in the middle of a list of other discouraging developments. WTF?

I decided to bite the bullet, and was relieved to find the full headline read: "Senate slipping away as Dems fight to preserve blue wave." I can hardly remember how long ago the Dem Senate bubble burst — trust the AP, always the last to know! I was amused by the photo accompanying the article (here narrowed to JOM column width):

Unless I'm mistaken, it appears someone has pasted a couple of red pills at the bottom! Considering how the original was cropped, I wonder if that escaped the AP's attention too.

I'm not impressed with Fox News' list of potential October surprises: 5 things that could rock the midterms.

What does look like an October surprise are these bombings, so far, anyway. I'd like to hear more about the detonation mechanics. CNN says the package at "Time Warner Center was constructed with a pipe and wires," and was described by the NYPD Commissioner as a "live explosive device." Has anyone seen anything about how these bombs were to be triggered? Or have they just been taken off for controlled detonation? If I wrapped a bunch of fire crackers together with a fuse, would that qualify as a live explosive device?

[JMHanes]

I see that CH, JIB and SBW are apparently able to sign into Typepad, because they've got their personal avatars up. What are you guys doing that I'm not? I've cleared my cookies, but I've got so many other tabs open, they I don't want to lose them in by restarting either Chrome or my (Mac) computer. Do you suppose that what it's going to take?

[Captain Hate]

I assume you're not upset at my lottery comments, OL.

Patterico update: Still banning people.

[anonamom]

JMH,it IS funny.

I had only heard (just now) that Wasserman Schultz got one too, and I was wondering if I could say
"He's not totally crazy.
He's sending them to all the right people."

Not that I condone blowing people up--esp as it's likely to be their employees, not them.
Though it doesn't sound like these are functional bombs.

[Another Bob]

I popped over to Patterico. Not for long.

Almost the exact same pattern as bicycle boy.

[Captain Hate]

I don't know, JMH. I use Safari on a new iPad and it will very rarely log me out and generally lets me get back in easily. I haven't upgraded to the latest iOS if that's helpful, even though I can't use some apps until I do so.

[lyle]

OT: public radio has been running spots for a “conversation” with a certain Arthur O. Sulzberger, Jr. coming next month on our local university campus. Anyone ever heard of this guy?😎

The “conversation” is being moderated by our recently retired BSU president and has some lofty title about “media” and “democracy” and some other bullshit...

Bet it’s a packed house.

[henry]

real? or #metoo?

The Hill @thehill
12m

JUST IN: Andrew Cuomo says explosive device sent to his Manhattan office hill.cm/kvtcgnb

[Threadkiller]

Kaballa's #MeToo moment times out:

The evacuation orders were lifted at 9:30 a.m. as police determined the packages contained children’s books, shoes, football and an empty bag of chips.

https://fox5sandiego.com/2018/10/24/suspicious-devices-found-outside-san-diego-union-tribune/

[cathyf on iPhone]

JMH— set your browser startup prefs to “ resume from last time” and then you can quit and restart. Also if you force-quit the browser you can get options to select which tabs you don’t want to bring back

[Bernardo de la paZ]

Of course, Hillary's fan bois are blaming desantis because squirrel:

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/10/22/annoy-liberals-by-refusing-to-care-about-their-stupid-fake-outrages-n2530409

[Old Lurker]

Naw Cap'n.

You've just backed up from the Ledge on the Rule of Law Restoration and its timing.

I saw you read something last week that changed your mind a bit on Sessions, and ever since you have been slow to hand the bottles of gasoline to James for lighting, and him to me for throwing.

[Bernardo de la paZ]

Bruce Bartlett from the previous thread, was a frequent guest on the joy Reid show, which is the 4th level of hell,

[anonamom]

bomb guy's take:

https://twitter.com/thomasbsauer/status/1055145782200987648

[JMHanes]

Notwithstanding the amount of time teens spend online, there is at least one positive trend (via Drudge):

Research earlier this summer suggested that young people are deserting Facebook. A survey from the reliable Pew Foundation found that the top website among kids aged between 13 and 17 is YouTube, which was used by 85% of the teens involved in the study. In second place was Instagram (72%) followed by Snapchat (79%). Just 51% of teens are on Facebook, suggesting young people are turning away from a social network which was once a pivotal part of adolescent life.

‘The social media environment among teens is quite different from what it was just three years ago,’ said research associate Monica Anderson, lead author of the report. Today, their habits revolve less around a single platform. How often do you use Facebook? At the same time we’ve seen this shift, teens are more digitally connected than ever – nearly all teens have access to a smartphone, and more than four-in-ten say they are online on a near-constant basis.’

[Jim Eagle]

henry,

My 1:31 was Cuomo's response to a question he was asked about why NY was losing population:)

JMH,

Even spending an hour and half downloading Mojave upgrade, my Typepad avatar came right up when I went to JOM. I did clear history, and my Chrome and Safari caches, then empty the trash, and restart.

[JMHanes]

Thanks for the browser feedback. I'm glad to know about the restart & resume option, cathyf, which I will try.

anonamom:

Loved this comment from "MLS" on your bomb guy's thread:

"Avenatti has been seen checking his mail and calling UPS and Fed Ex several times asking if there are any packages for him."

[henry]

still get no TP login here.

[sbwaters]

JMH, I just kept on keeping on. Typhus is finicky. Keep ya on; boot ya off? Who knows.

[Miss Marple]

Well, finally!

I couldn't get in after Captain's lottery comment, and have been trying off and on all day!

There are too many odd things about these packages, including the fact that they all showed up on the same day even though they were destined for NYC, DC, and Florida.

Let me tell you as someone who used to do shipping, that level of coordination is impossible with postal deliveries. I think they should be looking to see if they were hand delivered.

I also find it suspicious that all,of the dem loudmouths have very similar talking points in their reaction comments.

[Beasts of England]

Be right back. Going to see if I got anything exciting in the mail today...

[Bernardi Dr la paz]

How about that:

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/17/john-brennan-white-house-saudis

[Beasts of England]

Dem Operative: 'How are we polling on the caravan?'
Pollster: 'Way underwater.'
DemOp: 'Hey Billy, what was Plan B?'
Billy: 'A rash of fake pipe bombs?'
DemOp: 'That's the ticket!'

[Marlene]

Good afternoon! I couldn't access JOM either,so I went shopping. There is an enclosed farmer's market here that sells Amish meat and cheese and usually has a good selection of fresh fish. The place is always crazy busy. Did I mention the home made bread,cookies and pies? I got hubby molasses cookies and told him I ate only one driving home. :)

[henry]

Schneiderman and his ilk are clearly engaging in fraud and racketeering activities.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/16/new-york-attorney-general-eric-schneiderman-moves-the-goalposts-again/?cn-reloaded=1

[Beasts of England]

Mohammed the Clock Boy made better fake bombs than these...

[Old Lurker]

This is what Cap'n said about the Lottery:

"Really high lottery payouts make people on "conservative" blogs look like a bunch of welfare deadbeats by fantasizing on what they'd do with free money from the state. The lottery is a very pernicious tool of the state that subsidizes and promotes envy."

All true, as is the scam that the proceeds are for "educating the children" because libs and dumb people (I repeat myself) don't even know what "fungible" means.

To me, the overwhelming good thing about the Lottery is that because people who can afford it the least play it the most, the lottery is actually the most regressive tax imaginable.

What's not to like about that?

...ducking.

[Porchlight]

I see we have a new attempt to change the narrative. They're so desperate.

[henry]

Trump live. Melania just talked about the opiod crisis:

https://www.pscp.tv/CNBC/1BdGYoZVpDZxX

[Bernardo de la paZ]

Now the fact that dhimmi Brendan is reduced to speaking in the void that is the Chris Hayes show ago would know otherwise.

[James D.]

I also find it suspicious that all,of the dem loudmouths have very similar talking points in their reaction comments.

"suspicious" implies that you have at least some doubt that this is a Democrat Party dirty trick.

I don't. Not one bit.

[Old Lurker]

Yes, I too could not access JOM so then I went to my desk. Read my email. Email #1: "Mr. Landlord, my toilet is leaking, can you fix it please? Please hurry." Email #2: "Mr. Landlord, when I came to my Pizza Shop this morning I see that a bandit broke through my glass door to rob my safe. Can you fix my door right now please? And BTW, my rent check was in the safe they stole. So sorry."

So then I refreshed my mail and found that AOL mail is down yet again. In the past when that frustrated me, I asked here at JOM for email migration advice.

This time, never mind. I like not getting my email.

[Beasts of England]

Did you tell them to jiggle the handle a few times, OL - that always works for me. :)

[Porchlight]

Probably already posted, but the Secret Service clarified: there was no suspicious package sent to the WH.

https://twitter.com/SecretService/status/1055113750544633861

U.S. Secret Service
‏
Verified account

@SecretService
@SecretService

CLARIFICATION: At this time the Secret Service has intercepted TWO suspicious packages - one in NY and one in D.C. Reports of a third intercepted package addressed to the WH are incorrect. We refer media to our statement: https://bit.ly/2R8jYYn

[Bernardo de la paZ]

In light of the exile of Thomas victor who was the expert on the gcc I was struck the heads of it now is a bahrani

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1035908/Saudi-prince-speech-Khashoggi-Jamal-latest-video

[Porchlight]

This is about where we're at with this story:

[rse]

disney network insisting the package recipients all have one thing in common, they have been victims of trump's harsh verbal attacks and now look what those words have caused.

So he must temper his rhetoric so people will stop sending wile e coyote level's of bombs seeking attention.

[Old Lurker]

Beasts, my automatic response is always "Read your Lease, Section IX, Page 11."

(After a lifetime of being a Landlord, I have finally evolved the boilerplate in my leases to equate to "Landlord's only responsibility is to cash the rent checks of Tenant...")

[Porchlight]

JUST IN: Andrew Cuomo says explosive device sent to his Manhattan office hill.cm/kvtcgnb

Looks like #MeToo, henry. Turned out to be a thumb drive.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/24/cuomo-confirms-he-also-received-suspicious-device-in-mail/

[JMHanes]

OL:

Since we're bringing up Captain Hate's welfare queens again, I'll repeat my observation that welfare deadbeats would be fantasizing about how to make the winner share his loot.

[Old Lurker]

Only a Lib would have hurt feelings for not receiving a fake bomb in the mail.

[Another Bob]

Bernardo, Wictor can be found on gab.

Been spending more time there lately.

[henry]

This CNN tweet has a picture of the "bomb" and package... stamps not cancelled ergo not shipped via US Mail.

https://www.pscp.tv/CNBC/1BdGYoZVpDZxX