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October 16, 2018

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Tom Bowler

Call it a correction!

Jane

As long as it's going up I'll call it anything!

Another Bob

Back to Avenatti for a sec...

Anyone ever sort out who was paying him? Or is he really a free-agent, maybe trying to work his way into the "family" by doing services and paying "tributes" to the progs?

Bernardi Dr la paz

There is circumstantial evidence that leads to the gulf, in this master conspiracy motif.

But up against juggernaut I mean Chuck harder , he broke gawker like bane did batman.

Jack is Back!

My cousin in England's take on Warren's DNA. Remember she is an expert in Family History, including how to read DNA threads:


How interesting, Jack. My take on this is that the science of DNA testing is still in a very early stage and is being constantly updated. The real advantage of DNA testing at the moment is in connecting people who have shared DNA up to four, five or six generations back. Before that the amount shared is too small to prove anything.

However, with tracing ethnicity you are on much shakier ground. Your DNA is compared with a test group taken from various ethnicities (people whose ancestors have all, as far as they can tell, come from the same area) and this is being constantly improved by increasing test groups etc. Recently Ancestry (as I'm sure you're aware) updated its ethnicity results and my results changed quite considerably as did Ced's. These will probably get changed again before too long as they further improve their techniques. So ethnicity is still a very fragile science and cannot be taken as the absolute proof.

With Elizabeth Warren's claim to Native American ancestry, I would have thought the main problem is that Native Americans will not have their DNA tested so it has been unable to test her DNA against people with full Cherokee ancestry.. Using other ethnicities is a bit of a cop out really. I doubt if anything is proved or unproved by her recent DNA test.

So far as her claim to Native American ancestry is concerned is similar to you and I claiming French ancestry. Of course, we have French ancestry but it is so far back that it is a minute part of our whole and many UK descendants of the Piguenits would not show any French connection in their DNA because the Piguenit DNA may not have come down to us. So far as you and I are concerned, our DNA shows a connection so it has to be either Parker or Piguenit DNA or it could be both.

The only way to prove her Native American DNA is through doing detailed old fashioned paper research. However, I'm sure that half the people in the US with 17th or 18th US ancestry could also have a soupcon of Native American ancestry so her claim seems rather far fetched and searching for pie in the sky really.

Fascinating.

Bernardo de la paZ

Carrying over from the last thrrad:

https://education.msu.edu/search/FormView.aspx?email=aladeimi@msu.edu

Bernardo de la paZ

That is MSNBC s spot person on the kingdom and Yemen's background.

Tom Bowler

From Rasmussen, another sign that the vaunted November Blue Wave may not be Blue:

Fifty-two percent (52%) of voters say it’s better for the country if Congress works with Trump most of the time. Thirty-eight percent (38%) think it’s better if Congress opposes the president most of the time. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure.

I'm trying to imagine which Democrats are saying it's better if Congress works with Trump. Aren't they supposed to #Resist at all costs?

derwill

My ancestors were part of the Daniel Boone settlements, and they married Cherokee women. The interesting thing is we have documentation—marriage certificates and birth certificates with the wives and mothers names listed as simply “Cherokee woman”. No given names, I suppose because either they didn’t know how to spell them or they didn’t think the Indian women warranted further acknowledgement by listing their actual names. Whatever the intermingling of my male ancestors with Cherokee women was well documented and went on for several generations.

Oh, and I have high cheekbones.

Bernardi Dr la paz

So speaking of swamp critters it's buzzard feeds turn to go after the uae through a private contractor they employed in uemen.

Jane

AB,

I bet he did the Stormy Daniels case on contingency. He she doesn't win he gets zilch. daniels ought to sue him for malpractice considering the award of attorney's fees.

Clarice Feldman

Ok Barnardi (narciso) who is buzzard feed?

The Infamous Ignatz

Buzzfeed.

Jane

Derwill,

You need to run for senate!

Jack is Back!

Buzz Feed? The junior varsity of NYT/WaPo/LAT.

Ben Smith's latest "liar's lair".

Beasts of England

For the record (since I'm sure it will become a topic in this thread, as well):

- I would have loved to see the unredacted documents months ago.

But, what I want doesn't matter.

- I'd still like them to be released before the midterms.

ibid.

That said, no person here knows the details as well as Trump or the handful of people around him. The same is likely true regarding the full scope of this scandal. I trust Trump to do the right thing at the right time. Cool?

The Infamous Ignatz

Relinking the brilliant Fuaxcahontas meme at Posobiac's feed.
The comment by Archer Bowman is hilarious.

maryrose

Eventually I hope Baker ,the popular governor of Massachusetts ,runs for the Senate.

Old Lurker

Works for me, Beasts.

The wheel is already spinning, the ball is bouncing around, and the entire pot is on Red.

Eye Doctor .

Letting Wolfe walk is not the right thing to do!

Beasts of England

I can't argue with that, OL!! :)

Captain Hate

maryrose,

Did you or your husband go to Carroll?

henry

LOL, a Menendez event! classic:

Instapundit.com Retweeted
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METAPHOR ALERT: Hillary Clinton's Scooby van crashes into wall at campaign event for Bob Menendez

Old Lurker

Maryrose, Having seen nothing but Baker commercials on TV all summer, I don't want him anywhere near DC. I am already sick of having Romney here...two of them would be unbearable.

maryrose

Beasts:
I think President Trump is getting bad advice on this topic.
Rosenstein has his own agenda wrt the FISA warrants and is ultimately out for himself.
We just have to wait and see how the midterms go.All arrows in the quiver should be deployed in this fight for our freedom.

maryrose

Henry:
Maybe it is an omen for the Menendez campaign.
Hillary is the kiss of death on the campaign trail.

Ralph L

blowing it up publicly to the degree where one is forced to do something about

What happens if the Brits implicate Obama himself, not just minions? Would the MSM ignore that as usual?

I still think the FBI "Russia" FISA investigation was more about getting a possible hold (insurance policy) over a Pres Trump to cover up earlier crimes than to change the election--they would have started sooner. How could avoid admitting they started well before the election after they made an October Surprise? It's high risk.

derwill

Jane, I wouldn’t join that chess pool even for the millions it would obviously bring me. OTH, I realize now I should have applied to Harvard to get my Masters, being as how I am apparently a woman of some color.

We have photos of my father’s grandfather and the Indian heritage is very obvious in him. Even so it was never spoken of, and we didn’t know anything until my niece did the research and found the records. What amazed me was what good records they kept in those early settlements given how far out on the edge of civilization they were back then.

derwill

Jeez—cesspool, not chess pool.

maryrose

RalphL:
They are protecting Obama and Hillary by not releasing info and I would love it if Obama was outed by the Brits.

Old Lurker

Ralph, any path to exposing Obama and his string pullers including Soros works for me. If half the Rs are purged in the cleansing, that works for me too.

maryrose

Derwill:
If you have relatives that need scholarships or financial aid, claim Indian ancestry and there may be resources available for college studies.

henry

Brothel owner running for Nevada Legislature...

Chuck Muth
@ChuckMuth

I just confirmed with Nye County sheriff’s deputy that Dennis Hof passed away this morning. No other details at this point. I’m heading out to Love Ranch Vegas now. Official statement will come once I learn more.

Tom R

I think President Trump is getting bad advice on this topic.

Which one of his advisors do you think is giving him bad advice?

Old Lurker

"Brothel owner running for Legislature"

Coals to Newcastle?

Jane

Derwill, you got screwed by Elizabeth Warren,we should find something to sue her for.

Maryrose, Charlie Baker is as Rhino as the day is long.

Beasts of England

'I think President Trump is getting bad advice on this topic.'

How could reach that conclusion without knowing all the details, maryrose?

Miss Marple

Ralph,

I still think it was a plot to frame Trump and destroy him after Hillary won. That is why they started making up fake evidence so early.

Because they thought they would be in charge and no one would question the FBI, CIA, or DOJ, and because the media would mostly do their bidding, they didn't work very hard on covering their tracks.

The motive was revenge and teaching a lesson to anyone who opposed them.

I still remember the Clinton campaign guy posting on Twitter back in the summer of 2016, "Trump must not only be defeated but destroyed, so that his kind shall not rise again."

Elliott

Parliamentarians, may I request via unanimous consent that my remarks from our recent deliberations be inserted at this point in the JOM record?

Old Lurker

Jane, Charlie Baker becoming a RINO would be a huge step from Left to Right for him.

maryrose

TomR:
Rosenstein and the British and German ambassadors or envoys.Possibly even Sessions.

Extraneus

You would have been golden, derwill. In the mid-90's I hired a PhD engineer who had long hair. I was working for a major company whose name I won't mention, but some weeks later I got a call from the a very big boss's staff guy (who happened to be black), asking me if the new hire was a Native American.

'I have no idea,' I replied.

'Well find out.'

Hmmm. I was totally against affirmative action, or even classifying people by race or ethnicity, but couldn't get away with ignoring this dude, so I asked the employee. He said he didn't know, but didn't think so. We discussed the fact that he could get away with either a yes or a no, but he chose no.

maryrose

Baker is better than Warren or Markey

Jane

You are right OL, I couldn't think of the correct term.

Elliott, AYE

maryrose

Beasts:
There are no documents released after we were told they would be released.
The President said he would release them.
Congressmen purposely asked that they be released.
Everyday they call for the release.
Nunes calls for the information.
We are all wrong and Rosenstein is right?
No.

maryrose

Conservative Repub better than a Rino better than a Dem.

sbwaters

Elliott, as if we could remember them. ;-)

maryrose

Hi Elliott,
Always like it when you drop by.

Old Lurker

Maryrose "Baker is better than Warren or Markey"

Only if it is 50/50 and we miss McCain.

Otherwise give me Warren or Markey. I am sick of fake Rs who in their cowardice or greed are as responsible for getting us here as the left is.

Jane

I actually think Markey is a bigger slime than Warren. Hell he doesn't even live in the state.But he really is a dirty cuss.

Clarice Feldman

Smooches, Elliott. I don't know what your previous remarks were, but I vote aye/

maryrose

I currently have 10 Republican yard signs on my lawn.
We live on a quite busy street so the morning rush hour group gets a reminder each day.
May do some door to door on Saturday.
It is touch and go here in Ohio.
Henry:
How are Walker’s chances?

Tom R

Maryrose,

If Trump is following Rosenstein's (bad) advice then that implies he trusts him right? Why do you think Trump trusts Rosenstein?

Elliott

As there is no objection, I resubmit for your consideration those remarks that would have otherwise languished evermore unperused at the end of the last thread.

The discernment of the JOMentariat is hereby called upon to judge the merits and demerits of the subjoined doggerel in order to determine which stanza is more deserving of preferential consideration, with the caveat that metrical sophistication cannot be the sole determinant, but may be taken into account along with other factors.

(a) Lizzie Warren took a test
to put the squabbling to rest
The apostle of Resist!/Dissent!,
Prefers her less-than-one-percent

(b) Lizzie Warren flouted facts
to speed her on the tenure track
and when at last the results came in
maintained her claims were genuine

Beasts of England

Was that an answer to my question at 2:54, maryrose? Because it's non-responsive...

maryrose

They were plotting in the summer of 2016.
At least Brennan and Reid were.
Hillary’s idea of a really dirty campaign trick.
I still think there is a big protection racket going on.
Kind of like the mob.
Redactions serve to security purpose.
They are in place to protect certain people according to Jim Jordan.

maryrose

Non responsive in what way?

henry

How are Walker’s chances?

Improving, as are Leah Vukmir's for Senate. That is per Reince this morning on talk radio. Basically, even the left is pointing to WI's hot economy as an obstacle. His opponent is mumbling about tax cuts (in the middle of a campaign focused on repealing Act 10 and increasing taxes). That says more than the polls (which are roughly where they were on the recall before the vote).

henry

Elliott, fine doggerel! As such, it needs to be tested when my tongue is lubricated by several beers... as in some time this evening. ;)

maryrose

TomR:
Trump is a fool in my opinion if he trusts Rosenstein.
I think Rosenstein made that comment about wearing a wire.
I already know you disagree and that is ok.

maryrose

Henry:
That is good news.

henry

nice:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
30m

WOW, John James is making headway in Michigan. We are bringing jobs back to the State, and the People of Michigan appreciate it. Debbie Stabenow has been no help, if anything, a major hindrance. John James is a star, I hope the voters see it. Polls are tightening!

maryrose

Redactions are not for security purposes.
How about a progress report from Huber and Horowitz?
The clock is ticking...

Frau Indianerherz

Elliott - I was going to bring your doggerl forward without any permission. That's how I roll.

My response:
Elliott -
Fabelhaft! Ringelnatz or Christian Morgenstern could not have done better.


Old Lurker

I think they were plotting way before the summer of 2016...getting all the parts in place throughout Obama's reign of terror.

Frau Indianerherz

I hope those timid souls who were hesitant to click on Heitkamp's photo went ahead. Al The Groper did not seem tempted this time.

Extraneus

I vote (b).

Lizzie Warren tried to prove
That Mamaw was a squaw
But when her private test came back
The populace guffawed

Bernardi Dr la paz

Hey Elliot how have you been?

I think it's a matter of keep your enemies closer, until he gets clearance from Noel Francisco I don't think he moves this time.
Look what happened when he moved one of the pieces on the board, he count shrapnel from the minefield.

Clarice Feldman

Very good, Elliott.

Extraneus

Trump: Saudi Prince "Totally Denied" Knowledge Of Khashoggi Killing, Promised "Complete" Investigation

Just spoke with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia who totally denied any knowledge of what took place in their Turkish Consulate. He was with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo...

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 16, 2018

...during the call, and told me that he has already started, and will rapidly expand, a full and complete investigation into this matter. Answers will be forthcoming shortly.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 16, 2018
Old Lurker

Frau "Al The Groper did not seem tempted this time."

In the bar they call those "two paper bag girls".

That's what Beasts told me anyway.

:-)

Tom R

Khashoggi question #12: Since Khashoggi was living in the US why didn't he just go to the Saudi consulate in DC to get his divorce papers?

Frau Indianerherz

I'm with Clarice, too. Khashoggi is/was not our friend.

The video did not show his face wile entering the consulate, did it? It would have been easy to photoshop a facelss Khashoggi coming out.

Who has helped the US most in the ME, the Saudis or Erdogan?

Miss Marple

Good question, Tom!

Frau Indianerherz

OL - it isn't inflation but that is a three-bagger, for sure.

Jack is Back!

I think there is something everyone is missing: the 50.5% who voted for Hillary are still alive in a relative sense. That tells you that any argument you can make, in re the economy, national security, MAGA tactics, deregulation, etc. will follow on deaf ears.

I sincerely believe that there is significant populations of Americans who are tone deaf to executive or legislative results that improve their lives. They are too busy paying bills, trying to find additional funds for their kids education or activities, or cooking and such to be bothered by political minutae like the Trumpians at the rallies. They respond to yard signs, TV and radio ads, do not think the country is at risk, and will vote just like their neighbors.

I sure hope I am wrong but we are still a 50-50 country, or close to it, and that is unfortunate. But when you consider that even college educated adults went to school where their instructors and professors were all leftists. Not the way to prepare citizens for the right way.

Frau Indianerherz

Tom R @ 3:36- no one has asked that yet? Where are the professional journalists?

maryrose

CH:
Yes we both attended John Carroll.
My husband received a degree in sociology and History and I took graduate courses there in Administration.
My niece and nephew both attended as did their mother ,my sister in law.

maryrose

JIB:
I am educating my friends of over 50 years on what is happening.
I totally agree that personally if you are benefiting you will vote Republican .
The overall need is for people to in fact vote.
CH : Buckeye:
It is NO on Issue One by the way.

Eye Doctor .

Tommy boy

Wolfe is walking. And you have nothing to say about it?

Miss Marple

Jack,

Remember the big push where everyone had to go to college? This is how we ended up with kids with degrees in retail merchandising, art installations, and sports fitness. Besides getting more money for the colleges ( and putting more people in debt) it also gave them a larger target group for indoctrination.

My grandmother was a normal school teacher - got about 2 years of school and then started teaching. She went back to get the 4-year degree when it was mandated by state of Indiana in the late 50's. When she went back she was rolling her eyes at the stuff they were telling her,men cause by then she was in her 40's and had years of experience.

Now, all oaf this could be a weird coincidence, but it's not had to imagine a master plan to make the population all think a preferred way. And you are right - a lot of people are consumed with everyday a minutiae and just accept it as normal.

Beasts of England

Non-responsive to the question I clearly asked, maryrose, but this nonsense:

'The clock is ticking...'

...is all the answer I need. Wow.

Tom R

I sincerely believe that there is significant populations of Americans who are tone deaf to executive or legislative results that improve their lives. They are too busy paying bills, trying to find additional funds for their kids education or activities, or cooking and such to be bothered by political minutae like the Trumpians at the rallies.

This is what earns their vote:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/15/mixed-signals-for-democrat-blue-wave-in-november-cnbc-survey-says.html

Indeed, the poll found that 48 percent of the public is optimistic about the current economy and optimistic it will get better, the highest level in the poll's 11-year history and more than double the 20 percent registered in the December 2016 survey.

Working in the Republicans' favor is not only record-high optimism about the economy but also about the stock market and near-record high optimism about wage growth. American expect their wages to grow an average of 5.1 percent in the next year, up from 4.7 percent in the June survey and the highest since 2008. A record-high 51 percent of the public say now is a good time to invest in stocks, with a record-low 25 percent saying it's a bad time.

Old Lurker

Jack welcome to my world.

That is why we have the Ledge.

Jack is Back!

MM,

Normal school is a midwestern institution IIRC to escalate the number of teachers for rural schools as the country expanded. Lots of top intellectuals came out of the midwestern/eastern slope schools of the west.

How's your computer and car situation. Did you ever call HP about your monitor issues?

Jack is Back!

Oh, I forgot.

Elliot, ever read Galloway Kinnell? Suggest you read him before you try poetry again:)

Good to see you back. B

The Infamous Ignatz

--What happens if the Brits implicate Obama himself, not just minions? Would the MSM ignore that as usual?--

We need to remember that we are coexisting with what are essentially Soviets at this point.
There is no crime among Soviets except for those deemed expendable or internal threats to those not expendable.
There is no act nor documentation no matter how serious that will allow the prog press to not defend to the death any person deemed essential to the cause.
An authentic memo from Barry ordering Brennan to illegally spy on Trump directly would be fought to the death by our fourth estate fifth column.

Buckeye

Local Columbus hooker was killed and then dragged to a park by my house and set on fire Sunday.

What kinda sicko does that??

There goes Jr.'s neighborhood:)

The Infamous Ignatz

Trump Vows To Go After "Horseface" Stormy Daniels And Avenatti; Stormy Responds "Game On, Shorty"

You would think if anyone would be aware of the first rule of holes...

Miss Marple

Jack,

Am waiting on a tow truck now to come get the SUV. Got a garage my sister uses to work on it. While it it there I will have an oil change and get it winterized.

Computer: got the monitor but am looking for the correct cable. If that doesn't work I may be heading to Best Buy. What worries me about this is that there are things on my old PC that I don.t ant to lose, like pictures and old recordsmandmsuxh. Since I am such a doofus at this stuff, I am afraid I will screw up the data transfer.

maryrose

I just wish someone would tell Stormy and Avenatti that their sell by date has expired.
Someone get the hook and drag their carcasses off the stage.
We normal Americans are so done with you.

Tom R

One more reason the SJWs/Communists will eventually lose: Conservatives are superior when it comes to the Meme War and thus winning the hearts and minds of Generation Z.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/10/16/what-is-the-npc-meme-liberals-rage-at-cartoons-mocking-their-scripted-thoughts/

rse

MM-I can guarantee you there was a master plan and it is currently in high gear.

That would also be why yesterday's post is citing a publication last week where the so-called 'troika' of soviet psychologists are now the basis for mandated learning theory.

I also downloaded all the implementation documents from a UN entity called Alliance to Monitor Learning this morning in advance of their meeting in Hamburg, Germany that starts tomorrow.

There was a 21st century Human Values Forum recently in Korea that character educators (funded by the McDonnell fortune) from the US went to. They were there because there is a global push to mandate character initiatives that are all about mandated altruism and the collective.

Captain Hate

You would think if anyone would be aware of the first rule of holes...

Stormy's life has been a roadmap of not smart decisions.

rse

Buckeye-two nights ago there was an armed robbery at the restaurant steph had me meet her at for lunch a while back.

Need to find somehwre else next time.

Extraneus

KSA up 5% today, Rich.

Captain Hate

This is how it's done:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jennajameson/status/1052278885339942912

maryrose

Iggy:
Can you imagine if an actual memo from Obama to Brennan about spying we’re actually discovered how the world as we know it would change?
Dem Party would go the way of the Whigs.

Eye Doctor .

What the hell was a MB spy doing working for the Washington Post?

squaredance

(copied over from last thread)

When Warren shared with us a test,
It did not show her at her best:
Neither Cherokee or Huron,
She's a lying, shrieking moron.

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