We March To War

At a rally in Ohio Trump talked up U.S. Grant, son of Ohio. Chaos ensued!

The CNN transcription:

Here's what Trump told the crowd in Ohio:

"It also gave you a general who was incredible. He drank a little bit too much. You know who I’m talking about right? So Robert E. Lee was a great general. And Abraham Lincoln developed a phobia. He couldn’t beat Robert E. Lee.

He was going crazy. I don’t know if you know this story. But Robert E. Lee was winning battle after battle after battle. And Abraham Lincoln came home, he said, 'I can’t beat Robert E. Lee.' And he had all of his generals, they looked great, they were the top of their class at West Point. They were the greatest people. There’s only one problem — they didn’t know how the hell to win. They didn’t know how to fight. They didn’t know how.

And one day, it was looking really bad. And Lincoln just said, 'You,' hardly knew his name. And they said, 'Don’t take him, he’s got a drinking problem.' And Lincoln said, 'I don’t care what problem he has. You guys aren’t winning.'

And his name was Grant. General Grant. And he went in and he knocked the hell out of everyone. And you know the story. They said to Lincoln, 'You can’t use him anymore, he’s an alcoholic.' And Lincoln said, 'I don’t care if he’s an alcoholic, frankly, give me six or seven more just like him.' He started to win. Grant really did — he had a serious problem, a serious drinking problem, but man was he a good general. And he’s finally being recognized as a great general.

But Lincoln had almost developed a phobia, because he was having a hard time with a true great fighter, a great general Robert E. Lee. But Grant figured it out. And Grant is a great general, and Grant came from right here."

Now, don't call it Fake News but on Twitter NBC News managed to distill that down to this:

WATCH: President Trump says "Robert E. Lee was a great general" during Ohio rally, calling the Confederate leader "incredible."

Trump called Grant incredible, but he could have said the same about this reporting.

The SPLC swooned because Gen. Lee fought for the slave-holding South:

Robert E. Lee was not a great general, President Trump. He waged a war to hold onto the legal institution of white supremacy.

Uh huh. Rommel was not a great general either since he fought for Hitler. Historians need to search their thesauri carefully.

Lots of cross-currents here.

Comments

[Captain Hate]

Good night Wisconsin. Glad someone else can get throttled by Meeeechigan.

[Pinandpuller]

I guess Vanderbilt Homecoming vs Florida was good timing but why are Floridian such horrible drivers?

[narciso]

I thought rove had locked down the weather machine it's in calverton md*

* same place they keep the time machine.

[daddy]

A salute to Danube, to his Father, and to his Grandfather, all of whom gave magnificent service to this Nation. And also a hat-tip to his distant relative who was an Officer on a Confederate Ship and wrote a book about it, and finally to another distant relative who IIRC was the hero of the Battle of Lake Champlain (@1814) in destroying British Ships.

[Another Bob]

CH, Keith Schiller was head of Trump’s personal security.

Schiller was kept on the payroll after the election and inauguration. I take that to mean Trump retained his personal security, at that time perhaps (rightly) not trusting USSS.

Later, Schiller left the WH which I took as meaning Trump now trusted (vetted?) the USSS detail.

Note that Trump never buttons his jackets. Been rumored that he carried a gun in NYC and may still.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

She took her dog to UGa vet school so it's Red and Black for Steph.

The hell you say. The only decent advanced vet facility in these parts is UGA. Didna have much choice. Of course, many of the vet students get a degree from GaTech and transfer for their residencies or whatever vet docs are required to do. Matter of fact, last I checked more graduates of their vet school got their undergrad at Tech than at Georgia as the Georgia grads couldn't get in the door. :0

We were at Grace's birthday party today on the other side of town. 65 miles and it took 2 hours and 45 minutes to get there as the lovely DOT is repaving I-75 near the new Braves stadium and had 2 of 6 lanes open. Asses. Must be UGA graduates...

Geaux Tigers!!!!

[Another Bob]

Of course nothing saying that Trump isn’t still getting info and other types of security from other than USSS.

[GUS]

Obama to Reggie Love. Reggie, uh uh uh, you take uH....Assalley to Hershey Highway, and you're there............

[Captain Hate]

Thanks, AB

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Sad to hear about Danube. Will add to our prayer list.

Glad y'all enjoyed the Halloween tale and love that y'all think I'm fully capable of doing the deed (devils are us), but it was a joke and not a true life story.

My MIL was a Church of Christ innocent, naive coal miner's daughter and would have NEVER had the Exorcist on her reading list... though she started emulating parts of it when her Alzheimer's got advanced. She was 180 degrees personality wise then... cussing and carrying on like a totally different person. Sad. That persona would have definitely qualified for the joke's treatment. :)

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Back in a bit... must go check out my FB timeline to see the lamentations of the Dawgs and swim in their tears and agony. Y'all shoulda heard them on the Kevin Butler call in show after the game. Da Refs! Da Coaching! Da Play Calling! The ride home from my son's was a hoot listening to em!

[jimmyk on iPhone]

Also sorry to hear about DoT. Had the privilege of meeting a few years ago in CA.

[daddy]

A'mom,

Uncle Joe Stalin would disagree:)

How many divisions does the Pope have?

[Beasts of England]

Prayers for Danube of Thought. An eloquent, fine gentleman. May peace be with him.

[boatbuilder]

Sorry to hear about DoT. Good man.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

Houston back up in front due to a bad error by Nunez on what should have been a DP.

[daddy]

What Network is broadcasting the Game? I can't find it on Hotel TV.

[Pinandpuller]

Railroad Earth-Been Down this Road

https://youtu.be/Myzmj4kVVjA

[jimmyk on iPhone]

TBS, daddy.

[lurkersusie]

daddy
What Network is broadcasting the Game? I can't find it on Hotel T

TBS

[Buckeye]

I for one am shedding no tears over a Georgia loss.

[Another Bob]

CH, I was also curious how that might work. USSS’s strategies are based on their ability to be the 800 lb. gorilla and take total control of a site, local authorities and other agencies be damned.

I imagine the head of the detail wouldn’t have reacted well to the concept of having some number of armed men - that he would not have reliable control over - rummaging around inside his perimeters and feeding info to his protectee.

[rich]

TBS ... after Verlander got out of his jam the Red Sox manager got tossed because of the 3rd strike call ... Houston went back up on a Nunez error (wasn't that his second?).

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

A diet guru explains why you should eat dinner at 2pm

[daddy]

Thx, guys.

Carp. No TBS here. Oh well.

[rich]

oops the error got runners at 1st and 2nd ... they scored on a Correa single.

[Pinandpuller]

If you love Mitch Hedberg you might like Todd Snider- If Tommorow Never Comes

https://youtu.be/erdlUyllNhU

[sbwaters]

Danube has been one of the shining lights here.

Prayers for DoT and our entire community.

How blessed we have been. How blessed we are.

[Kevlar Kid]

Thanks, daddy!

[Porchlight]

DoT is a first class man and we were lucky to have him here. Larger than life. Praying for him.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I can't used to the Astros being in the AL and the Brewers in the NL.
Not natural.

[jimmyk]

If it ends up as a Brewers-Red Sox WS, it may be one of the coldest ever. Brr. At least it won't go into November, unless there's a rainout (or snowout).

[Kevlar Kid]

Heard that, sbw! As 2018 ramps up to a close, i shiver in memory of the post-surgical condition i was in this time last year. glad yer doin better too. -kev

[Another Bob]

Jimmy, Miller Park has a roof, and from firsthand experience, it gets plenty warm inside when the roof and windows are closed.

[Pinandpuller]

It's like Michael Douglas in Traffic:

Asa Hutchinson III's IV DUI arrest

https://youtu.be/qIylsQGxfTM

Run him for governor of Texas

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The gruesome Nina Totenberg manages to write a story that doesn't make ill to the gills; about her father's stolen and then recovered Stradivarius.

[Pinandpuller]

Man: That's a priceless Steinway.

Inspector Clousseau: Not anymore.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Well that was quick. My Georgia friends are awfully silent on FB. Only one was bitching and that was cause he bought a scalper tix and it was in the middle of Tiger fans and they wouldn't let him sit in his seat. Poor widdle doggie! WTF did you expect? I got my uncle's 40 yd line tix one time for the Tech-GA game and had a drink poured on me by a pissed GA fan (after unsuccessfully trying to get me tossed for having "fake" tickets). My uncle worked with Larry Munson for years, and I mentioned his name and that they were his tix, and the bitch got arrested. Don't go crying to me about poor treatment at Tiger Stadium, poor doggie! Yelp Yelp Yelp!

[jimmyk]

Didn't realize that, thanks, AB. But Fenway will get pretty chilly by the end of October.

Will resist snark about baseball stadiums outside the south having roofs.

[narciso]

The full chimp circus:

https://mobile.twitter.com/sfrantzman/status/1051179831352811520

[Pinandpuller]

George Baker Selection-Una Paloma Blanca

https://youtu.be/gQK9k42ongU

Jetsons, meet the Jetsons

[Captain Hate]

I can't used to the Astros being in the AL and the Brewers in the NL.
Not natural.

The Milwaukee Braves were NL.

[Kevlar Kid]

Eddie Matthews!

[rich]

yard!

[jimmyk]

Ok, it's David French and TNR, but an interesting piece on how black men have reacted to the Kavanaugh debacle:

Contra [Jemele] Hill, then, black men aren’t “missing” anything. They’re getting a fundamental point: If even a man as powerful as Kavanaugh barely escaped uncorroborated accusations, what chance would they stand?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-confirmation-fight-race/

[Kevlar Kid]

Steph: Paw called tonite sayin that his Louisiana Lady is gettin rowdy after LSU's win. "She's threatening to take out her baton roojie!" Settle down Paw. Yer 86. -Kev

[Captain Hate]

Serpenthead is surely talking in tongues by now.

[Kevlar Kid]

Rico Carty!

[Kevlar Kid]

Who dat, CH?

[Pinandpuller]

Sorry. Flintsones, meet the Flintsones.

Was Rush's Peace Update theme originally a polka?

[Captain Hate]

Who dat, CH?

Carville: I think he loves L$U more than he cares about Slick. I'll bet Les Miles's clock management skills added a new layer of insanity.

[rich]

looking like Workman is checking out for lunch ...

[rich]

yard!

[rich]

Workman isn't getting any coffee tonight.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

All my Tiger friends are rowdy tonight, KK. Love me some coon asses having a great time. Wish I were in Biloxi this weekend and had taken a quick ride over to Nawlins for the celebration.

[Captain Hate]

The Astros can mash anyone; they're like a lineup of Bonds clones in terms of sheer force.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--The Milwaukee Braves were NL.--

I'll have to take your word on that Cap'n on account of, well, I was just a small child. :)

[Kevlar Kid]

Life and times of Steven:

[Kevlar Kid]

Why dint Bama score 3000 points today?

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

A man goes to see the Rabbi and says, "Rabbi, something terrible is happening, and I have to talk to you about it."

The Rabbi asks him, "What's wrong?"

The man replies, "My wife is going to poison me."

The Rabbi, very surprised by this, asks, "How can that be?"

The man then pleads, "I'm telling you, I'm certain she's going to poison me. What should I do?"

The Rabbi then offers, "Tell you what. Let me talk to her. I'll see what I can find out, and I'll let you know."

A week later the Rabbi calls the man and says, "I spoke to your wife on the phone for three hours. You want my advice?"

The man says, "Yes."

The Rabbi replies, "Take the poison."

[Captain Hate]

Rico Carty!

The Big Mon probably played for as many different teams as Kenny Lofton.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

A guy comes into a coffee shop and places his order, he says "I want three flat tires and a pair of headlights and a pair of running boards."

The waitress, not wanting to appear stupid, goes to the kitchen and asks the cook, "This guy out there just ordered three flat tires and a pair of headlights and pair of running boards. What does he think, this is an auto parts store?"

"No" the cook says, "three flat tires means three pancakes and a pair of headlights is two eggs sunny side up and running boards is 2 slices crisp bacon."

"Oh," says the waitress. She thinks about this for a while, and then she spoons up a bowl of beans and gives it to the customer.

The guy says, "What are the beans for?"

The waitress replies, "I thought while you were waiting for the flat tires, headlights and running boards, you might want to gas up."

[Kevlar Kid]

Played As:
Boston Red Stockings
1876-1882
Boston Beaneaters
1883-1906
Boston Doves
1907-1908
Boston Pilgrims
1909-1911
Boston Braves
1912-1935
Boston Bees
1936-1940
Boston Braves
1941-1952

Milwaukee Braves
1953-1965

Atlanta Braves
1966-Present

[narciso]

Questions I've had, I mean evil and incompetent

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/skripals-bellingcat-gru-novichok-anatoly-chepiga-alexander-mishkin-putin-russia-a8577161.html

[Kevlar Kid]

Carty won the batting title once hitting .366 Started out as a catcher.

[Kevlar Kid]

:D Steph!

[narciso]

Don't the police have something better to do:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7487370/democratic-football-lads-alliance-march-turns-violent-as-far-right-supporters-clash-with-cops/

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Nite y'all...

Gonna go find a recording/replay of the Tigers win and watch it in full instead of chasing toddlers around while asking "what just happened" after each big play for 3 hours.

[Pinandpuller]

John Fogerty and Bob Seger-Who'll Stop the Rain

https://youtu.be/j48955kL8zo

[Pinandpuller]

I swear they threw in a piano riff from against the wind.

[Pinandpuller]

Sammy Hagar and Mike RenoRemember the Heroes

https://youtu.be/bl9LeNu0qn0

[jim nj]

test

[JimNorCal]

In my daughter's school they are not called "tests" anymore.
They are "assessments".

Nytol

[jim nj]

http://www.hughhewitt.com/national-security-advisor-john-bolton-on-his-trip-to-russia-the-missing-saudi-jamal-khashoggi-iran-china-and-big-tech/

[jim nj]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/a-dollar1-trillion-powder-keg-threatens-the-corporate-bond-market/ar-BBOiIUn?li=BBnbfcN

Interesting. Companies taking on large debt loads without without credit agencies cutting the companies credit ratings.

[hoyden]

Heads up! Incoming "Pieces"! Time to make my 3rd cup to enjoy with Clarice's perspective.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/turkish_taffy.html

[hoyden]

Clarice explains the details surrounding the MFM's reporting on the Khashoggi tale.

Thank you, Clarice, for unwinding the MFM's spin.

[hoyden]

Extraneous, how is the Android tablet with Yandex working out as a viable JOM platform? Do you have any recommendations for a particular economical Android device?

A couple months ago I bought a compact and inexpensive ($215) Dell Windoze 10 PC that does an okay job with 4 GB memory and 1366x768 display. The 32 GB SDD isn't large enough handle Windoze updates, so I will probably need to replace it. I will also probably upgrade to 8 GB memory. In addition, even a small PC isn't as convenient as my iPad mini when reading JOM in bed.

I appreciate any suggestions and your perspective.

I'm off now to deal with the leeks I harvested yesterday. Not sure exactly what to do with them after cutting off the tops and bottoms, and washing off the dirt. I would appreciate any recipe suggestions. I also read that you can make stock from the green tops. That sounds like a good idea but first I have to learn how.

[Pinandpuller]

@buzzman888
💸 “The Check’s in the Mail.”
Unpaid #Antifa protestors gather in front of George Soros office and begin chanting for their money.
#CrimeDoesntPay

https://twitter.com/buzzman888/status/1049973262044794880

[Pinandpuller]

Not So Proud Boys (and Girls) from Berkeley

[Pinandpuller]

Remember when Florida stomped your Vanderbilt ass?

[Pinandpuller]

Promoting degeneracy:

At a meeting held at First Christian Church, Bauman discussed a recent ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Ruling in a case called Martin v. City of Boise, the court ruled that municipalities cannot criminalize life-sustaining activities such as sleeping, eating or resting in public places when there is no shelter space available or accessible.

The ruling applies to cities in Washington state, including Puyallup, where overnight shelter is available five months of the year.

Bauman, who works for the National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty, warned local cities against policies that restrict where homeless people can be on public property.

http://amp.thenewstribune.com/news/local/community/puyallup-herald/article219069415.html

[Pinandpuller]

From 2014 to 2016, DeMeyer, while working as a personal assistant for the Solomon family, pilfered more than 500 bottles of rare wine from his boss’ vast collection, including seven precious bottles of Domaine de le Romanée-Conti, which Solomon purchased for $133,650, according to court papers.

DeMeyer sold them to a North Carolina-based wine broker, Ryan Chaland, whom he found online. By November 2016, Solomon had been alerted that his vintage assets were on the market.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/13/how-a-charming-imposter-stole-1-3m-in-rare-wine-from-the-ceo-of-goldman-sachs/

[Pinandpuller]

Homeless people have phones Mr Lawyer:

A toddler was severely burned by scalding hot water at a Queens Applebee’s — and the family plans to sue because they claim employees waited 20 minutes to call for help.

The tot, Cadien Scott Gaffney, was at the restaurant on Rockaway Boulevard in Rosedale with family on Oct. 5, when he grabbed and spilled a cup of piping hot water, which the family had requested to sterilize utensils, a family spokeswoman told The Post.

Employees did not call 911 for over 20 minutes, the family’s attorney is now claiming.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/12/family-plans-to-sue-applebees-after-toddler-scalded-by-hot-water/

[Pinandpuller]

The entire story was bullshit from top to bottom so why shouldn't it end this way?

The Washington National Cathedral will be Matthew Shepard's final resting place.

"Matthew Shepard became a symbol for us of what happens when good people are silent," says Gene Robinson, the first openly gay Bishop in the Christian faith.

https://wjla.com/news/local/matthew-shepard-to-be-buried-at-dc-cathedral

[Kevlar Kid]

because the homosexual lobby is extraordinarily wealthy and influential.

[jim nj]

PIN,

The homeless have rights just like every other citizen.

Many years ago they would have heeded Horace Greeley's advice, "Go west young man." Apparently they still do. Just like every other citizen who couldn't adapt to city life.

So if California is flooded with the homeless, the homeless have made a rational choice. Better weather, better benefits.

[Miss Marple]

Clarice,

Excellent pieces!

I saw it linked on The Conservative Treehouse this morning, with approving comments!

[jim nj]

kev,

Too true.

[jim nj]

Yes, Clarice was good, as usual, but I still don't understand the Kashoggi thing.

[Captain Hate]

"Matthew Shepard became a symbol for us of what happens when good people are silent," says Gene Robinson, the first openly gay Bishop in the Christian faith.

Good people have been silent as the emissaries of Satan have taken over the religion, fuckface. This is just the latest outrage.

[Captain Hate]

Do we even know for sure that Khashoggi is dead?

[Miss Marple]

Jim nj,

No one knows very much about the Kashoggi thing, but as Clarice points out the "noble crusading Saudi reformer and reporter" tale has a lot of dubious people promoting it, with an obvious effort to split us from the Saudis.

Huge red flag to me when I saw Brennan pushing that line on Twitter.

Thanks for posting that Hugh Hewett interview with Bolton last night. It had lots of good information in it.

[Captain Hate]

Yesterday my wife mentioned Khashoggi which means NBC and/or ABC are really gaslighting it.

[jim nj]

The Saudis are more are more deft than this. And the overlap with Brunson's release is suspicious.

[Miss Marple]

Captain Hate,

No, we do not know for sure he is dead.

I find that dismemberment tale far- fetched.

[Kevlar Kid]

Pirogi is a patsy. it reeks of turd lobbing by Kalorama, Inc. toward the punch bowl.

10:1 it gets debunked and leads to embarassment for Air-dough-1 and company.

Brennan still walks free, Mr. President.

[jim nj]

MM,

I always like to read John Bolton unfiltered.

He doesn't pull punches.

This Kashhoggi thing reeks of propaganda. I don't trust the Turkish sources and I noticed it overlapped with Rev. Brunson's release. It's like a misdirection. Brunson is free, but Kashhoggi is dead.

It's like Brunson couldn't be released without a cover story. Erdogan would have been seen as caving into Trump.

So Brunson get's released and they need to take the focus off that.

Weird.

[Kevlar Kid]

just read in the alumni mag that two of my dorm mates have passed last month. heebie jeebz. way too young. one was a SEAL commander ret.

[Miss Marple]

jim nj,

I agree that the Saudis are more deft. And why do the deed at a consulate, where it would implicate your government?