Worst Cover-Up EVER!

From Reuters:

Asked by a reporter in the White House Oval Office how the Khashoggi killing could have happened, Trump said: "They had a very bad original concept. It was carried out poorly, and the cover-up was one of the worst in the history of cover-ups."

Fortunately, Trump did NOT go on to say that he executes big, glorious cover-ups. Or - the gold standard - Clintonesque coverups. With any luck, we'll find out in the next few months whether he does or not.

Comments

[hrtshpdbox]

If only Trump had said, "this affront to civilization can not stand, we can never truly be friends with a nation whose society condones this type of barbarism, Saudi Arabia is dead to us!", why then we'd have a President we could truly be proud of, then we could hold our heads high. Trump needs to understand it's not the cover-up, it's the crime; any of our moral betters, the Democrats, would be arranging with Iran right now to help us bomb Riyadh, that's the ticket.

[Beasts of England]

Strange brew bud: Boehner supports pot decriminalization efforts. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

[Extraneus]

Great quote. Was that unscripted? Heh.

[henry]

So Khashoggi didn’t shoot him self twice in the back of the head? How crude of him.

[Kevlar Kid]

Under double digits! :D

[Another Bob]

MM, here’s a helluva thread for you.

https://threadreaderapp.com/user/DawsonSField

Includes the off ramp for what I hope will be a separate thread about how Trump was a confidential informant for the FBI.

[Jim Eagle]

One thing about this series is the number or southpaw pitchers. My Dad would be proud. He was one, and would regularly strike out Yaz's dad in inter-Town series back in the 30's and eary 40's.

So it comes down to has the best lefhanded hitters who can hit those guys.

[Kevlar Kid]

So, CashHoggy was an American citizen right?

(Dint think so. Murder at will. The Iranians do it every damned day. I am all outta fux to contribute to the outrage pyre.)

[Jim Eagle]

KK,

Green Card holder not citizen.

[Kevlar Kid]

Wikipedia lists his nationality as Saudi. Green card schmeen card. Just sayin. Carry on.

[Eye Doctor .]

Another Bob

That's funny as hell. I'm sure Tommy boy will be all over that nonsense

[Another Bob]

What KK said.

[Kevlar Kid]

Thanks for that link, Another Bob. It's beeger than all of us! :D

[Jim Eagle]

Two countries feeling the warm, Qatar & Iran.

Nice job Turkey. I am sure DjT has surprise in for you. SA is more important than that fuck up called Turkey in NATO.

[Jane#walkaway]

JOM is so slow for me today. Is it JOM or my new modem?

[hrtshpdbox]

Turkey is the country with the most jailed journalists:
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-most-jailed-journalists.html

[Beasts of England]

It's been slow all day, Jane.

~ ~ ~

I'm available to root for your favorite baseball team!! Small gratuities accepted in advance.

[Pinandpuller]

Kev

Did you get in on Peet's Coffee back in the day or are you the Michael Avenatti of Berkeley?

I was just reading the bag while I waited in line at the Kroger's.

[hrtshpdbox]

Jane, it's probably JOM acting up, though I just ran a speed test and my modem is really crawling..

[Jim Eagle]

Beasts,

We have Dave, boatbuilder, jane, thomas collins, mad jack, macthenief, and unnamed others including me for the Bosox. What more do you need?

[Pinandpuller]

Kashoggi' GPS was spoofed and he thought he was at the Iranian consulate.

[Beasts of England]

By the way, I was waiting in a friend the other night and caught an inning of baseball on Gamecast on my ESPN app. Very cool.

It showed an outline of the batter (left or right) with a 3x3 matrix at the strike zone. For each sector, it showed the batter's average, with best results shaded red and worst shaded blue. After each pitch, they'd list the speed and type of pitch. Impressive stuff. And it gave me something to do while baseball was on...

[Beasts of England]

That's an illustrious group, JiB, but Kev may need some company!! :)

[henry]

Can I root for sleet and snow?

[Another Bob]

test

[Another Bob]

Test2

[Pinandpuller]

henry

You think some baseball scouts are heading down to meet up with the caravan/mob?

[Jane#walkaway]

Henry!11. Root for the Sox!

Harrumph! I

[henry]

Nice response by the Turtle to his interrupted dinner:

https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1054859677337600001?s=21

(It goes through a Newt tweet... the article is the key)

[Jane#walkaway]

You too Beasts!

[Extraneus]

best results shaded red and worst shaded blue

The most common scheme I've ever known, at least in the engineering world, is green ($) for best and red for worst.

Blue is considered a calming color, for when you have something bad to report, although not everyone knows to do that.

[henry]

Sox... meh. Not gonna root for them. Ever.

[Another Bob]

Last test

[Another Bob]

Bah

[Another Bob]

Can both teams lose please?

[Jim Eagle]

Whoa, heny,

That means something bothersome to the id.

[henry]

There seems to be another “caravan” assembling in Guatemala. The first caravan is headed up Mexico’s west coast. (They might get wet).

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

I'm rooting for both stadiums to fall into the ocean. :)

[henry]

JiB, nope. Any non Cardinal team gets a yawn from me.

[Jim Eagle]

Go Sox, make Southampton proud.!

[Beasts of England]

I'll root for them, Jane! I'm reading up on the game - since this is the only time of year I follow the sport - and a few of the writers are predicting an exciting series. That works for me. :)

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Oh and for the caravan(s) to fall into a sink hole.

Or even better a 1 mile wide very deep Gorge to open between the US and Mexico. A dynamite assist would be great, too.

[Pinandpuller]

If asking about citizenship in the census goes before the SC I'm going to cite Herod v Judah & Samaria.

[Jim Eagle]

And, up here we will relish the Atlanta "whatever" keep proving what a worthless bunch of football players and club they will be while, guess who, the Patriots win another super bowl. Suck it Up.

[Pinandpuller]

Sorry, Judea.

[Extraneus]

Trump must be planning a great response to the caravan. This is an important play.

[Pinandpuller]

When did the Gillum sting go down Frau?

[Another Bob]

Exactly Frau. Isn’t our media wonderful.

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

I don't follow the NFL.

Braves yes, United, yes, Falcons, no, Hawks, no, whatever the hell the WNBA, no, Reign, no.

OH and the Stripers, but not their name change.

Sports rivalries are all in good fun.

Roll Tide!
WhatstheGoodWord?
THWG!

[Extraneus]

Report: Millions in Food Stamp Dollars Flowed to Terrorists

A “hawala”— which is an Arabic term defined in English as transfer (or trust)— is a method of transferring money through informal agents from international networks, and many Muslim immigrants settled in western countries use the “hawala” method to transfer funds to family members.

GAI, citing a U.S. Treasury report, found that more than $7 billion flows into Pakistan alone through hawalas every year.

Because of the informal, simple nature of the transaction, the “hawala” method has also been popular among criminals and terrorists to launder money from the U.S. to the Middle East, Africa, and Asia without a paper trail.

Good piece by Katherine Rodriguez (hold the apostrophe).

[Stephanie, Nene, Not your Normal Grandma]

Saw that on ABC, too, Frau. Hagiography R us central...

Taco Tuesday, BBL.

[Pinandpuller]

Why didn't republicans pass a bill to overturn that' touchback bullshit for non Mexicans? Nuke the filibuster. The demographics will overtake you like Helm's Deep and no, uh, White Wizard is going to save you.

[Extraneus]

This, Frau.

ecords show FBI agents gave Andrew Gillum tickets to ‘Hamilton’ in 2016

Undercover FBI agents paid for Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum's hotel room and his ticket to the Broadway musical Hamilton during a 2016 trip to New York City, according to a bombshell trove of records that raise new questions just two weeks before next month's election.

The records include photos, a video and dozens of text messages between Gillum, former lobbyist Adam Corey and an undercover FBI agent, and they appear to refute what the mayor has said that trip and others.

His campaign has maintained — and continued to maintain Tuesday — that Gillum's brother, Marcus, who lives in Chicago, handed him the ticket the night of the show. The campaign has not said if Andrew Gillum has asked his brother how he came about the ticket.

[Extraneus]

Crown Prince "All Smiles" As Saudis Sign $50 Billion In Deals At "Davos In The Desert"

(Click to open.)

[Pinandpuller]

I posted couple of tweets about Gillum on the last thread. There are also allegations about a trip to Costa Rica.

[Extraneus]

Despite Khashoggi murder, 3,000 dignitaries give MbS a standing ovation at the same @RitzCarlton hotel where he tortured royal rivals last year https://t.co/zGowJJ0Jto@borzou

— Alexandra De Corato (@Geopol_Analisi) October 23, 2018

(Click to open.)

[Pinandpuller]

Let's kick in Marcus Gillum's door at 4 AM and get some answers.

[Jim Eagle]

If I was still in the game, I would be there, and standing for applause. Hey its a business, but then who again is viable to thank or screw over.

[Extraneus]

Isn't it amazing that those dudes are the ones who get to sit on the oil, not to mention four wives (who[m?] they could also sit on if they chose)? Just look at them.

[Beasts of England]

The caravan could be his biggest yet test, Extraneus. If they reach the border - and who knows if that's even their goal - something decisive will have to be done. I haven't doubted his results or courage so far, but this showdown would involve televised people victims. Women and children first, of course.

[Miss Marple]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/23/president-trump-remarks-during-white-house-state-leadership-conference/#more-155791

Interesting comments on the Californiamwater situation, as well as other stuff.

[Beasts of England]

This evening's odds are Boston -160. I assume that means the Red Sox are favored, and you'd bet $160 to win $100. Is that right?

[Jim Eagle]

Beasts,

Ufortunaley, he has not much to stand on. Better he go and invade Mexico and stop them there. A war with Mexico, even if they bring all of Central and South America, will be no big thing. In fact, it is sometihing we have put off for too long

Do they Really want to challenge his options?

[Eye Doctor .]

Set up a soccer tournament at the halfway mark.

[Beasts of England]

I can't think of too many paths forward, JiB - especially if the caravan swells to tens of thousands. Economic sanctions work next month and next year, but that's symptomatic.

[Pinandpuller]

Rush cites some endocrinologist from Mr Sinai's transgender division yada yada yada. He 'he' (he?) is a Gender Change Denier I suppose. As am I.

[Pinandpuller]

The Mighty Mighty Bosstones-Royal Oil

https://youtu.be/UzYUAim0k80

[mad jack]

go sox! yale soccer, meh:-)

[Catsmeat]

sbw, as for a theme for the losing Democrats in future, I suggest "compassionate conservatism." That should do it.

[Miss Marple]

Ideas on stopping the caravan picked up on the internet:

1. Joint military exercises with Mexico IN Mexico. Round them up jointly.

2. Use the caravan me no build the wall.

[Pinandpuller]

Kashoggi is a dissident only in that he disagrees (disagreed?) with the Saudi king's methods for imposing worldwide Shariah.

[Bernardo de la paZ]

Ah tom, did you not notice the withering disdain from the links of nerva mahmoud in the UK, at least one exiled commentator bozkert re kemal ataturks vault, erdogans big nothing burger.

[henry]

Wretchard:

The chief challenges to globalization are coming, not from Trump, but from China, Russia, the floundering EU and collapsing states unleashing migrant waves into the system. Merkel is hanging on by a thread ... and there is no Plan B ...

https://twitter.com/wretchardthecat/status/1054856837428723712?s=21

[henry]

Rosenstein interview with Congress put off again. He stalls two more weeks and the blue wave will save him. [narrator: there is no blue wave]

[Bernardo de la paZ]

That's about the size of it, pin, you reminded of the absolutely cheesy passions series the other day, how did the nephew of one of the richest men in the world at the time, end up going to Indiana state, I know the adopted son of Edward seaga and someone who ended up prime minister of Haiti graduated from my alms matter.

[hrtshpdbox]

From what I'd read, the caravan won't reach the border by election day, so Trump doesn't have to do anything about it except continue to decry it.

[jim nj]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/23/political-correctness-college-campuses-democrats-voters-midterms-progressive-activists-column/1726496002/

[anonamom]

Podcast recs:
Rubin Report and Joe Rogan

[Kevlar Kid]

"Did you get in on Peet's Coffee back in the day or are you the Michael Avenatti of Berkeley?"

Nope and nope. Got in on a .02 internet stock in 98 that was swallowed whole when it hit 30 something bucks. Never looked back. then did it again with Mustang Software before it got mobied.

More money in coffee contracts than brick and mortar bean stores ennawayz.

Peets Coffee....burns their beans. not my cuppa tea. More of a "Bustelo" kinda guy.

i don't know enough about M/A to get the joke. :D

[hrtshpdbox]

Eradicating "catch and release" laws, of course, can be the objective after election day.

[Pinandpuller]

It's a shame we didn't go to war with Russia over the death of dissident Leon Trotsky-in OUR hemisphere.

Are you OUT OF yOUR DAMN MIND?

Rhetorical question.

[henry]

From the video, Kampala is trying to convince 10 Iowans that arugula is better than bacon.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1054787705081610241?s=21

[hrtshpdbox]

Kevlar Kid, I worked on the NYCE and traded both NY and London coffee back in the 70's. Crazy stuff.

Peet's Coffee is privately held.

[Pinandpuller]

Kev

MA went bankrupt/is going bankrupt from selling coffee in Seattle.

[boatbuilder]

It's not too late to get on the bandwagon, Henry...:)

[Kevlar Kid]

I know. Airdrop counterfeit and traceable social security cards. Arrest them for fraud when used.

many ways to skin the cats that get through.

reeearrrrroooowwww.

[jim nj]

http://www.hughhewitt.com/the-true-existential-crisis/

John Schroeder

[Kevlar Kid]

Selling coffee in Seattle....tough brew paying living wages to stoner sock hat wearing ninnies.

M/A is bankrupt seven diff ways from Sunday.

Is Stormy givin him free sympathy lap dances?

ewwww. sorry. mind worm. blech.

[henry]

BB, the arugula bandwagon? Honestly I prefer dandelion leaves.

[Kevlar Kid]

"Meanwhile, those that voted against him in 2016 - women, college-educated white voters and voters of color - dislike him as much today as they did back then."

"...and my head is so far up my pucker i can see my ribs."

smoking crystal again i see. hope there isn't too much cleanser in that batch. DOH!

[Bernardo de la paZ]

At the time the soviet's were allied with Nazi Germany, ironically trotsky's was assumed to be in league with the Japanese _don't try to figure it out) made it a reason to purge large parts of the soviet office corps, 1984 adapted that story to the aaronson Rutherford affair.

https://mobile.twitter.com/abdbozkurt/status/1054680887516897280

[boatbuilder]

Arugula is OK but it ain't bacon. Mmmm, bacon.

No, the other bandwagon. Up 2-0 in the first.

[Kevlar Kid]

hrtshpd:

knew there was somethin i liked about you! cool.

have friends that are in "management" with Peets. hopelessly Left and "torn" over free trade coffee and social justice etc etc etc. awash in company paper.

i have my own privately held concerns :D

[jim nj]

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/23/supreme-court-intervenes-in-childrens-climate-change-court-case/

[Bernardo de la paZ]

Think of him like a Cheshire cat

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmreUslu/status/1054716969214267392

Or remember how qaddafi pretended his daughter had died in the 1986 attack

[Kevlar Kid]

I grow Italian arugula for Mrs. Kid. Learned how to hide it from the deer. they love the stuff.

i juice wild dandelion leaf. good source of magnesium and vit B. other stuff too. easy to get from the local parks during spring and early summer. great for coming out of hibernation.

i add Himalaya salt, fresh lemon juice, cayenne pepper, and turmeric in 12 oz of water. makes a flavor very similar to Snap-E Tom. if i want rocket fuel i'll juice a fat jalapeno. the proud and the brave will juice a fat habanero or a serrano chili.

That's all.

[Dave (in MA)]

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[Miss Marple]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/23/president-trump-holds-oval-office-press-conference-during-signing-ceremony-for-america-water-infrastructure-act/#more-155804

[Kevlar Kid]

back in the days of firing foods we used to wrap bacon and arugula around roasted marinated tri-tip bits.

still makes me mouf water.

one of the finer belly bombs known to the species.

[Pinandpuller]

You guys remember the death of dissident OBL in pockeestahn?