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November 07, 2018

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Frau Indianerherz

Yay, our side!

henry

Trump is claiming an era of bipartisanship where he and Pelosi negotiate, then push it through the Senate with the help of some R's.

Some victory.

henry

MarketWatch @MarketWatch

Trump praises Nancy Pelosi during his post-midterms news conference, says he liked her speech last night: "She used the words 'uniting' and 'bipartisanship' ... That's what we should be doing"

Porchlight

Decent analysis, at least the part TM quoted.

Tom Maguire

Even I see the 4-D in Trump talking up bipartisanship and cooperation with Pelosi - he'll send stuff to the House, it WON'T get Dem support, and he'll blame intransigent, obstructionist Democrats.

henry

He'll push Ivanka's socialism to Pelosi and call it victory when he stuffs it down our throats.

derwill

Oh for heavens sake Henry, he’s playing them like a fiddle. He knows there won’t be any bi-partisanship coming from the Dems in the House. He’s setting them up so he can campaign against their obstructionism. The muddle loves hearing that can’t we all get along crap, and how is the House going to look now if they vote in the first day to impeach him, which is what their base wants him them to do.

JMHanes

Wow, Dems have even got henry taking Trump literally, now!

Tom Maguire

Push Ivanka's socialism? C'mon, Trump hosted a million rallies, dragged DeSantis, Hawley, Braun and others across the finish line and you're quitting on him?

Porchlight

Repeating from last thread.

FWIW - my progressive #Resist Beta fan colleagues - same folks who were going nuts about the long lines for voting - are wearing blue and black today and looking Muy Sad. Seriously they are almost all wearing blue or black.

The House is not much of a consolation prize to them at all.

All that GOTV money and effort here in Travis County and NOTHING. Well, a bunch of Austin tax increases went through, but they always do.

Marlene

Uh Oh. Trump vs Acosta.

Porchlight

Hey TM! I like your high energy today.

Jane

Trump hands Acosta his ass.

Porchlight

That was masterful by Trump. He makes it look easy.

derwill

Trump owns the Senate now. Whatever he wants from them, he’ll get—and he wants those judicial appointments and trade deals. Whatever legislation that comes from the House won’t even make it to the floor in the Senate unless Trump wants it to, and if he wants it to, it was going to happen anyway with a Repub House.

Marlene

These reporters are out of control.

henry

TM, I fully expect Trump to quit on me. He did all those rallys so it's not his fault he has to work with Pelosi. That game works both ways.

Time will tell.

Frau Indianerherz

"Tom Maguire | November 07, 2018 at 12:25 PM"

Hear!Hear! Without Trump's yuge endeavors, the outcome would have been bleak.

anonamom


President gets subpoena, "Hang on a sec, let me just check with the Supremes....."

Sessions departs DoJ, President appears in Rose Garden to introduce newly appointed Atty General, Devin Nunes.

Devin Nunes isn't an attorney, so as much as I'd love to see him as AG, I don't think that will happen.
Though what the hell---maybe a non attorney AG is what we need.

Andrea Mitchell called Nunes a clown this morning on Morning Joe. John Meachum said something about "DJT versus regular people" in talking about polarization.
I was truly shocked to witness what goes on there now.
I'd watched every morning I wasn't working from November 2008 into 2011. Joe totally missed the 2010 House flip, so he lost a big chunk of credibility with me after that. And then he became a Dem...
He'd been fairly balanced before then, both personally, and as far guests.

JimNorCal

Yes, yes, yes, can't give up. They won't let us, it is a cage match, fight or die.

But look things in the face:
Trump winning '16 was a miracle.
Since then GOPe held us back.
The Trump base has not folded but it has not expanded like it could have (and still may).
Is FL lost due to felon voting?
The MidWest reverted to Dem control: MI, WI, MN are all in horrible shape now.

Trump will be a maestro in slapping around the Dem House.
But how can Trump possibly win in '20? After 2 more years of ceaseless MSM fake news?

We will all still vote for him, but all those LIVs who rejected a future of jobs-not-mobs, bold success in foreign affairs, why would they turn around and vote Repub in '20?

Durka

Wisconsin has moved backed into the shithole state category. henry should focus his time on that failure of the morons in wisconsin and instead of bitching about Trump's wins last night. henry, go have another drink ya drunk!

derwill

Good grief, Henry, get a grip and go listen to that clip of Trump’s rally “we will fight on the beaches” closing. He isn’t going to quit. In some ways he’s just getting started.

JMHanes

henry:

"I fully expect Trump to quit on me."

Yeah, that game works both ways too.

jimmyk

He'd been fairly balanced before then, both personally, and as far guests.

Mika on the brain.

Captain Hate

The story of yesterday can be summed up by Ohio. Mike DeWine, a very uninspiring candidate (my cardiologist's assistant texted her husband that I called him Adam Ant), handily beat fuckface Cordray to replace Katshit, while hangdog Renacci lost to the Restraining Order. What was the difference? DeWine ran a better campaign; I don't particularly like him but his ads spelled out what he's about. I still have no fucking clue what Renacci stands for because, other than pointing out the obvious on Brown's MeToo situation versus his Kavanaugh vote, I don't recall a single this-is-who-I-am ad by him. Somehow the GOPe finishing schools have to get candidates to understand basic marketing principles. Renacci and Josh Mandel are both failures who need to go away forever.

Bori

Regarding Florida, there are too many assumptions that the new felons are automatically Dem voters. Stop. Republicans do commit crimes and lest not forget that whoever the Dem challenger is. Will he get the same support that Hillary or Obama received?

This point has been made but will reiterate. In Nevada, in the beginning, both the Democrats Rosen and Sysolak came out as hard against Trump, the Resistance. But they both switched gears as that was not polling well and finished the campaign as moderates, willing to work in a bi-partisan way. The anti-Trump message was discarded.

Unforced errors- I believe the talk of rescinding citizenship damage the changes of some Republicans in the West. This is something that definitely needs to be addressed but the timing right before the election was horrible. It gave the Dems the opportunity to demagogue Trump and by extension the Republicans.

henry

JMH, yes. There are places Trump could go that would lead me to quit on him. Paid family leave for example. I am simply planning for a risk that I cannot ignore.

anonamom

"Obama campaigned hard in Georgia. Oprah was all over the television. I only had me in Georgia"


Don't flake out on him now people!

Tom Maguire
But how can Trump possibly win in '20?

FWIW, and some of it is just churning, his odds of being the next President ticked up from 41% to 43% at PredicitIt.org.

he showed clout, he will probably be the peace and prosperity incumbent - typically that is hard to beat.

The House and the Fed are the two major obstacles right now. Well, and himself. We'll all find out if he is crazy like a fox or just crazy.

derwill

Walker was running for a third term. For some reason that defies reason, any more voters tend to decide that two is enough and vote for change even when the status quo is working fairly well.

Frau Edith Steingehirn

henry - I will gladly swap our magnificent Newsom for your limp Evers.
Walker was a great governor and should be remembered for his accomplishments.

anonamom - Andrea Mitchell is the real clown. Devin Nunes has weathered democrat attacks with a 58.5% win. Not too shabby. Let's see what Mr. Schiff(head) has up his dirty sleeve.

JMHanes

henry:

And your plan is?

henry

Walker was uninspired this time... he didn't mention new reforms at all. Just more of the same, more spending on social stuff, and Foxconn every three words. He fell into the Dem lite trap.

jimmyk

voters tend to decide that two is enough and vote for change

If only that would apply to the Senate and the House.

Incidentally, I don't get the claim that Brat was "redistricted." Redistricting would have happened in 2012, no? I think it's just the changing population of VA, plus Brat not really being a professional politician. Though I don't doubt that the GOPe stabbed him in the back too. Janet and rich, I feel your pain, but I don't advise moving to Manhattan.

Frau Edith Steingehirn

anonamom - after the support Pres.Trump gave during this midterm election (compare with Obama), I am even more behind DJT. What a champion.

Frau Indianerherz

" I feel your pain, but I don't advise moving to Manhattan."

...or Califrisco

henry

JMH, private for the moment. Lets just say expected returns don't look as good today, so projects move to plan b. It is as much the increasing regulation Trump (well Sessions / Rosenstein plus CA / EU) already dumped on my head plus the prospects of higher taxes locally , lower business investment nationally.

anonamom

henry, don't lose your perspective.

Put a picture of Hillary Clinton on your monitor, one on your refrigerator, another on your bathroom mirror, and leave them there for a week or two.

I do understand that you had a punch to your gut with Walker losing, but the sun is shining today.

jimmyk

But how can Trump possibly win in '20?

Incumbents almost always win a second term, unless they're utter failures like Carter, or renege on promises like Bush 41.

Captain Hate

Exactly, Frau, I've never seen a President campaign as tirelessly and enthusiastically as DJT did. I'm sure that was noticed by the War Turtle.

Regarding Trandrea, it may have moved for the first time since 2012.

Extraneus

Has Sessions resigned yet?

Dave (in MA)
Put a picture of Hillary Clinton on your monitor, one on your refrigerator, another on your bathroom mirror, and leave them there for a week or two.
Headboard?
Captain Hate

Brat not really being a professional politician. Though I don't doubt that the GOPe stabbed him in the back too.

I can't remember a recent election that wasn't followed by wondering if Virginia has reached peak retard.

Old Lurker

From the dead thread:

JMH "I was shocked to discover that my county is not as reliably Republican as I thought it was."

JMH, I think the Democrat - Republican formulation went by the boards once we discovered that they were really just the Uniparty, pretending all the while to be simply the loyal opposition.

So I think the surprise you feel is how many of our neighbors really just do not want the type of country we inherited from our parents. We are now divided between one bell curve plainly centered on Socialism, and another bell curve centered on the ideals of the Founders, more or less.

JMHanes

OK, henry. Maybe a bit of snoozing in the rocking chair on the porch is in order. I'm thinking of a walk in the woods with a camera, myself, before the fall leaves all disappear.

derwill

98% of incumbents win re-election. 45 Republican incumbents chose not to run this time. That put us in a big hole to start with. Add to that the fact that the Dems did a much better job of recruiting appealing candidates, and the lose of the House shouldn’t be a surprise.

Trump single-handedly not only saved the Senate, he increased our majority. Saved some governorships too. On the campaign trail there is nothing like him. But whether he wins in 2020, is going to depend a lot on future events that we can only guess at right now.

As an example. What would GWB’s presidency have been like without 911? Would we have had Obama without an Iraq war? Events could be looming on the horizon that we can’t possibly imagine right now.

Miss Marple

Holy cow! I got in the car to come home and the press coference was still going on. Our radio host, Tony Katz, went ballistic when the reporter (don't know who it was) asked if the VP would be on his 2020 ticket, and Pence was sitting right there!

I will have to go find the replay and watch the whole thing. It is much better when you can see who the reporters are, plus I missed Acosta being handed his ass, which I would like to see.

Isnt he running over the time when Pelosi's press conference was supposed to start? HA!

Tom Maguire
Put a picture of Hillary Clinton on.... your refrigerator, another on your bathroom mirror, and leave them there for a week or two.

I'm sure it's effective but that sounds like a pretty harsh diet plan. Couldn't I just, like, cut out potato chips?

Extraneus

PROGRESSIVES TURN ON WHITE WOMEN AFTER UNDERWHELMING MIDTERM RESULTS

Progressives are shaming white women for supporting a number of Republican male candidates in the 2018 midterm elections.

...

White women:
76% Kemp
59% Cruz
51% DeSantis

Black women:
95% O'Rourke
97% Abrahms
82% Gillum

White women gonna white.

— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) November 7, 2018

...

There needs to be accountability and an honest reckoning. There’s a lot of work to do, white women. A lot of learning. A lot of growing.

We want to do it with you.
Stay tuned. https://t.co/nN0cFqqmy5

— Women's March (@womensmarch) November 7, 2018

...

White women were similarly trashed after the Senate confirmed Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh in October.

A New York Times op-ed labeled white women “gender traitors,” while Women’s March leader Linda Sarsour called Republican Maine Sen. Susan Collins, a swing vote who ultimately voted to confirm Kavanaugh, a “disgrace.”

...

Last night was a historic night for women, but once again--there's a lot of work to do with white women.

Racism and xenophobia is a huge factor, and this is why the fight to end sexism must *explicitly* include ending white supremacy too. Anything less is hurtful. https://t.co/HeuGusxfCH

— UltraViolet (@UltraViolet) November 7, 2018

Etc.

Thomas Collins

A lot depends on one's expectations after Trump's 2016 win, henry. I never thought that at the federal level, serious entitlement reform would happen under Trump, with or without a Speaker Pelosi. I was hoping for legislation modulating the ridiculous one world immigration policy pushed not only by the progs, but also by the WSJ editorial page. Any chance at real immigration reform is gone now for at least two years. Trump will need to continue to deal with this by Executive Order. As to taxes, unless lame duck legislation is passed, sayonara continued tax reform for at least the next two years.

I can see how the Walker loss would be tough on sentient Wisconsinites. But perhaps a majority of Wisconsinites will regain sanity before Wisconsin becomes Illinois.

Re this quote:

"And while House Democrats can now go forward with impeachment if they like, Trump is buffered by a Republican Senate that would never convict him."

I would say the buffer is that Trump has not even come close to committing an impeachable offense. But that won't be the talking point out of Oligarch Media.

JMHanes

Miss Marple:

YOU are my favorite!

Frau Edith Steingehirn

The Clown Car is coming to DC. Yes, these are scary clowns but clowns nevertheless.

Let Alinsky rule:

"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."

sbw

very in your face when you disagree

A friend just dealt with an identify politics civic dooty advocate by taking every assumption and every clause and asking “What do you mean by that?”

They come at you with clichés they don’t expect you to challenge.

Okay, you support Obamacare? What about it is it that you favor? Oh, so you are not after Obamacare; you want people to be able to see a doctor. Whose doctor? How soon? And receive what kind of care? And leave with how much in their wallets?

Ending with, “So you don’t support Obamacare after all?”

Always keep your balance. After all, you just want to learn. Socrates did that every day.

Porchlight

Nooooooo Dave

Porchlight

that was re: the "Headboard?" comment

LOL

anonamom

henry, additionally--it was a GIFT that Romney lost in 2012, but it sure didn't appear to me to be that the day after he lost.

Are you listening to this presser?

POTUS is saying that having ten Ds willing to join him will make legislating easier than it would have been with six stubborn R hold outs calling the shots.


This guy is good!
"That's such a racist question" to a black journalist!!!

Jane

Henry,

I completely understand. If Gillum had won, I'd be putting my house on the market today.

Extraneus

Regarding the tax cut:

The corporate rate cut is permanent.

The individual rate cuts expire in 2025.

Frau Edith Steingehirn

TM @ 1:02 - LOL...cauliflower "potato" chips?

narciso

I would have said every other country looks out for their interests, why shouldn't we:

https://mobile.twitter.com/rogerabramson/status/1060186500036550656?p=v

Porchlight

Damn, Trump is tearing it up.

JMHanes

Progressives are shaming white women...

Bless their little hearts. Let 'em spin their wheels trying.

We like men. We vote with our brains. Intersect that.

Jane

DACA illegals voting in Texas? O'Keefe's Project Veritas has a disturbing video

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/11/daca_illegals_voting_in_texas_okeefes_project_veritas_has_a_disturbing_video.html#ixzz5WC504dqD
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

Extraneus

TRUMP CHIDES NBC’S PETER ALEXANDER FOR TRYING TO DEFEND JIM ACOSTA

Trump and CNN’s Chief White House Correspondent Acosta got into a spat over the migrant caravan and Acosta’s behavior in the press corps during a Wednesday press conference.

After the president called Acosta “rude,” Alexander attempted to stand up for his press corps colleague.

“In Jim’s defense, I’ve traveled with him and watched him. He’s a diligent reporter who busts his butt like the rest of us,” Alexander said.

“Well, I’m not a big fan of yours either,” Trump reminded Alexander.

“I understand,” Alexander conceded.

Acosta again tried to interrupt Trump’s press conference, but eventually Alexander asked if Trump was trying to “divide” the American people.

“No. What, are you trying to be him?” Trump replied, pointing to Acosta. “We want to be strong on the borders, we want to be strong on law enforcement, and I want to cherish ICE.”

“Sit down,” Trump said when Alexander insisted the president did not answer his question.

henry

TC, compromise with Pelosi for things like Data Privacy are fraught with peril. Especially if she pushes the California plus crap that Warner and FB were having hearings about. Something was going to happen the next two years on that anyway with CA and the EU going full idiot on data privacy. Depending on what they do, that type of regulation is an existential threat to my business. The needle just moved in the wrong direction.

Tom Maguire

Uh, Frau ES: cauliflower potato chips sound unnervingly healthy. Better steer clear.

anonamom

porch, I'm glad you are watching. I was wondering if you'd be able to.

Yes, this guy is a master.

narciso

The silver lining:


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/republican-gains-may-have-put-senate-out-of-reach-for-2020-democrats

Yes this collaborating with democrats is like sheep laying with lions.

Miss Marple

Thread by Lindsey Graham:


Lindsey Graham
‏Verified account @LindseyGrahamSC

It’s apparent to me the White House press corps lives in a bubble and the way they are conducting themselves today will do NOTHING to improve their standing with the American people.


Lindsey Graham
‏Verified account @LindseyGrahamSC
39m39 minutes ago

Certain members of the press cannot stand the fact that President @realDonaldTrump and Republicans defied expectations in the midterm elections – actually growing our Senate majority.


Lindsey Graham
‏Verified account @LindseyGrahamSC

The mainstream press are not -- in my opinion – ‘Enemies of the People’ but rather ‘Allies of the Democratic Party’ playing an activist role in support of their agenda.


Robin, fired up, really

Because my catch up took too long....

How I feel about these midterms IS NOTHING compared to how I felt when Obama was re-elected in 2012 and we failed to capture the senate. We survived, but that was awful.

We all knew that it was going to be an uphill battle to hang on to the House. I’m thrilled that we expanded our lead in the Senate, and I’m relieved to hear Pelosi paying lip service to campaign finance reform as a first task and cleaning up the swamp. Democrats, some of them anyway, got the message. That’s good for the country.

In some ways I think this is probably a relief for Trump. He was clearly frustrated by his own party sitting around saying “this is not who we are” rather than getting things done - passing legislation over and over and sending it to the senate and illuminating the crap going on there. Now he’s free to make deals, have conversations, and weigh all options. It is very foolish to think that he won’t be sitting down with Pelosi to tell her exactly what he has on her swampmates.

Is it 4d chess? Hell no. It’s high stakes poker and Trump is all in.

Now back to catch up.

exdemocrat

"Black women:

97% Abrahms
82% Gillum

black women gonna black."

that's how it works, right?

Porchlight

Thanks anonamom.

90 minutes of pure ass kicking.

Does he know how to change the narrative or what? :)

Porchlight

POTUS on Flake: "I retired him."

Extraneus

Has Mitch called Manchin yet?

Captain Hate

The MFM still shows more concern over finding out what happened to a worthless piece of shit like Kashoggi than Seth Rich.

rse

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/last-minute-federal-suit-filed-to-stop-kemp-from-overseeing-election/85-612220929

Filed at 5 pm yesterday.

Frau Edith Steingehirn

Pelosi now on TV. I bet she took a triple dose of the dementia drug that she needs and gets from the Congressional pharmacy.

Miss Marple

Regarding lunch today:

I told them that my sister and I had had an adventure on Friday.

"What adventure?"

"We went to the Trump rally at Southport!"


"What? I can't see you guys doing that. Why?"

"Because we are Trump supporters and wanted to see him. We think he's the best president in our lifetimes."

"Do you want to take the pickles home with your leftovers?"

Bwahahahaha! I feel very good about myself now!

Porchlight

I don't know, has he? I imagine Mitch is busy at the moment.

Bernardi Dr la paz

Oh you betcha and I don't really care about what happened to khashoggi only what it can affect the oil markets.

Porchlight

Here's the video of Acosta getting physical with the aide handing around the microphone.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9v1jmd/so_were_all_just_gonna_pretend_jim_acosta_didnt/

cathyf on iPhone
DACA illegals voting in Texas? O'Keefe's Project Veritas has a disturbing video
You know something I don’t see talked about much is that if legal immigrants who have green cards get caught voting then they lose their green cards and are deported. Realize that a lot of stuff like automatic motor voter registration is designed to ensnare legal immigrants who’ve followed all of the rules and waited their turns so that that they can be replaced by illegals who will be much more reliable Democrat chattel.
Marlene

Pelosi just said she looks forward to the values the new Dem congresspeople will bring. Does she mean the woman who is married to her brother?

Extraneus

She should have slapped him in his ear.

Miss Marple

cathyf,

ChiTown wants me to ask you if you think yesterday was a honey trap for electoral fraud.

I know Greg Abbott made a comment about investigating the Project veritas video stuff.

matt - deplore me if you must

Remember, the Left just took their best shot. $2 billion worth and an incredibly energized base of haters. As Obama said, elections have consequences.

Now Pelosi wants campaign finance reform? Ha! Ask Tom Steyer and his black money or Soros or Bezos and his in kind contributions. Do they really want to take the money out of politics?

Captain Hate

Nobody's like the Children of the Cornhole:

https://newrepublic.com/article/152106/blue-wave-democrats-rebuke-trump-win-house?utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=110718&utm_source=TNR+Newsletters&utm_campaign=ae51f9e30f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_09_04_daily_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_50cc843886-ae51f9e30f-63868125

Miss Marple

I need to get some stuff done. Back after while.

anonamom

Listening to Nancy Pelosi's presser---
What a contrast in tone.

She must be on some new meds. None of those irritating brain freezes.

Bernardi Dr la paz

Arquillians got a new crew.

mike in houston

I love this

The Nevada electorate just put a dead pimp in their State Assembly — so what happens to his seat?

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/07/what-happens-dennis-hof-nevada-assembly-seat/

Frau  Steingehirn

anonamom sez "She must be on some new meds. None of those irritating brain freezes."

My 1:38 -"Pelosi now on TV. I bet she took a triple dose of the dementia drug that she needs and gets from the Congressional pharmacy."

Frau Indianerherz

The NV seat is now open until later action.

Rocco

JMH, tis hunting season here, not sure about your area but in any event, don't wear white!

Clarice Feldman

Tom Maguire,, you really always have been my favorite. Don't tell the tohers, please.

cathyf on iPhone

The question of the election being a honey trap for election fraud: you know, all of these questions assume that the POTUS is the head of the Executive Branch, and I’m seriously questioning whether that is true anymore.

We have the spectacle of a special prosecutor, the FBI, and the DoJ as a whole, committing blatant, in your face obstruction of justice, subornation of perjury, and extortion to commit perjury, and nobody does anything about it. Nobody gets fired, nobody gets prosecuted, nobody gets more than a vague and oblique Twitter slapdown.

At some point if Trump doesn’t stop these people from doing what they are doing under his authority, then they become official Executive Branch actions, not law-breaking by rogue individuals.

Eye Doctor .

Tommy boy

When will we hear your revised 4d predictions?

Eye Doctor .

Tommy boy

Tell us. What will it mean when Sessions is booted!

Bernardi Dr la paz

Certainly, cathyf, it was disappointing that no public official chose to challenge the preexisting condition fooferaw.

Frau Indianerherz

A serious worry, cathyf.

In addition, I'm concerned that Mueller will throw out some red meat for the Confederacy of Clowns now in charge of the House. In that case, I expect Pres.Trump to drag out all the hidden dead bodies.

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