Old King Coal

Really too long for a Sunday but the NY Times Magazine takes us to coal country - in India. Lots of hand-wringing about the use of cheap, reliable coal as a power source in developing Asian countries; since it is the Times, there is no discussion of nuclear power as the baseload alternative.

I still want to see more done with thorium, oversold or not.

Comments

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

All the way with nuclear!

Atomkraft!!!

[Jim Eagle]

Before Thorium, we built this puppie at Hanford (which we are still operating) back in 1978. Might called it a predecessor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Flux_Test_Facility

All we need is the nerve, and political will to use proven non-fossil baseload power generation but pigs will fly first.

[henry]

Get Frederick back on the garage thorium reactor!

[Captain Hate]

No discussion of nuclear by the self proclaimed sciency guys?

[Captain Hate]

John Katshit: Im Very Seriously Considering Running For President in 2020

I'm considering playing Center Field for the Yankees.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2018 11:43 AM (Fh8wK)

Not if you're a Yankees fan, you won't. I want to play right field for the Cardinals, but as a slow, old white guy, it would be a disaster for the team. They'd lose 140 games.

Which is the point.

Katsick isn't running for President. He's not trying to win anything, he wants to lose the Presidency for Don Trump.

He should be treated as the enemy.

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

The Bill Nye's and Neal Degrasse Tyson's of the world want crap like wind power [Be Like Europe].

[MissMarple2]

If we are really heading into a very cold period due to the ultra solar minimum, then we will need all of the coal that we (and other countries) can produce.

I actually have wondered if that was one of the reasons the President Trump pushed for opening the coal mines again.

[MissMarple2]

GOP senator rebukes Trump: We need to 'consider further action' against Saudis https://t.co/qWdCTx3fgY pic.twitter.com/O3PNSZWGM8

— New York Post (@nypost) November 25, 2018

Note the pictures used. President Trump looks like a raving lunatic, while Senator Ernst looks all serious and intelligent in her "smart girl" glasses.

[daddy]

Coal?

Why can't they build that City Country on Rock & Roll?

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

"Note the pictures used. President Trump looks like a raving lunatic..."

It started before his election and has continued. GWB was given the same treatment.

[henry]

The rear admiral is still at it:

When the Trump presidency crumbles before a primary challenge in 2020, I'll think back to these lines from King John:
"Your nobles will not hear you, but are gone
To offer service to your enemy,
And wild amazement hurries up and down
The little number of your doubtful friends."

https://twitter.com/billkristol/status/1066550702384795648?s=21

[Narciso79]

She does know who need oil to make the ethanol.

Besides if they knew anything about modern Russia it would be counter oprichnik

[henry]

Solar powered tractors narciso... or burros. She’ll rent one of those rural outhouses for s night and solve it.

[Narciso79]

I know, gah you just want to give them a Gibbs stooge slap.

[Jim Eagle]

narc,

I believe most of the major distillation tower processes use steam produced using natural gas. Mostly, in a combine cycle power generating process. A co-generation scheme where you get higher cycle efficiency and a cheaper distillation.

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

henry @ 12:18 - first comment is by Wittes which proves to me that Kristol is one of the the Coalition of Democratic Forces that Wittes announced in Oct. 2016.

[Narciso79]

I still call him witless for good reason.

Noe general Hayden is the third man out in that outfit where micharl Chertoff counsel for firtash is the wizard.

[Narciso79]

Reuters leaves this out:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-israel-knows-how-to-defend-itself-from-the-murderous-iranian-regime

Prince turki a thunayan never let's us forget his father faisal was the one who called out the oil embargo

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

This guy probably seems completely nuts to most people in this day and age.
‘God, I don’t want to die,’ U.S. missionary wrote before he was killed by tribe on Indian island.
In prior ones that didn't know enough facts to lose sight of the truth he would have been a hero.

[JimNorCal]

Senator Ernst made a big deal of her experience cutting off the testicles of farm animals as a metaphor for getting the Budget under control.

Was she all talk or did she actually make an impact?

[pagar]

That link in the last thread about http://fly.historicwings.com/2012/11/one-a-day-in-tampa-bay/
is especially interesting to me, at least, considering that the first manned aircraft was Dec 1903. The reason that Glenn Martin made the modifications proved that politicians used to do things for the good of the country too. I'm not so sure that investigations in Wash do that much anymore.

[rich]

surprise surprise that some western progressive imperialists would know better than the Indians what their energy needs are ...

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I propose Bill Kristol immediately hoist anchor and set sail for the Andaman Islands.
His brave chin sets itself resolutely forward as the Sea Cuck cleaves the waves atop the vasty deep. he indominatably wades ashore to cite some Shakespearean doggerel to the Sentinelese natives in a vain attempt to convert them to his bizarre nevertrump cult.
They shoot him with about 32 arrows and give us all a little relief.
What a slime mold.

[rich]

Posted by: Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA | November 25, 2018 at 12:39 PM

all talk. and prattling on about KSA indicates to me that that there are disloyal and insubordinate elements at State and CIA who are leaking to Senators.

[Jim Eagle]

Almost forgot.

Your Latin Phrase of the Day:

Nec vitia nostra nec remedia tolerare possumus

From our man Livy in Rome.

[MissMarple2]

Frau,

Yes, I know they did the same thing to W., and they have been doing it to Trump since the campaign.

I guess it was the juxtaposition of that picture of him with Joni Ernst all made-up for TV wearing those smart girl glasses which just sent me over the edge.

[jimmyk]

In prior ones that didn't know enough facts to lose sight of the truth he would have been a hero.

Iggy, there seems to be a fine line between heroism and naivete, depending on how big the risks are. Here's another sad story, where one might have thought the risks were not so great:

https://nypost.com/2018/11/24/kenyan-police-offer-reward-in-case-of-kidnapped-italian-aid-worker/

I had read somewhere that the kidnappers were quoted saying something like "Get the white woman!" I hope they find her alive, but she will undoubtedly be raped.

[rich]

Posted by: henry | November 25, 2018 at 12:18 PM

bk is such a drama queen.

[Jim Eagle]

Joni Ernst represents Iowa, right? What is Iowa's major product? Made from Corn. If we impose sanctions on SA, does ethanol production gain from that?

Just thinking out loud.

[henry]

Rich, bk is an organ grinder’s monkey... he doesn’t care which organ grinder feeds him, he just does his dance. A banana must be his reward.

Now to the pre snow shoveling beer... Juicy Haze for the now 6-10” inbound. Now expected in 2 hours, it’s kinda warm so heavy wet stuff. Ugh.

[MissMarple2]

I have been putting up the Christmas tree. I am about 3/4 done and then I have to find the nativity set, which I think is out in the garage.

[henry]

Jack, npr has a story that Wyoming fracking will come online by Feb, with more land sales (on federal lands) then too. Ethanol not needed, except Iowa shows why brims on farmer’s hats are curved. (They fit in the mailbox where the government checks show up).

[glasater]

Levin's The Truth About Global Warming

I know..this has been posted many time in the past but it is so good..

[rich]

Posted by: henry | November 25, 2018 at 12:58 PM

that is a good one from voodoo ranger (and I saw Captain Hate's asskicker of the night on the previous thread!)

think i'd stick with the beer and keep the shovels parked.

[Narciso79]

Yes she got Pruitt's scalp fir the effrontery of changing the ethanol mandate, wait till she finds out Whittaker had the same view well that's why he lost the primary.

[henry]

Rich, at some point I gotta shovel. Much easier an inch or two at a time.

[rich]

and i have a searching criticism about bk specifically ... can't quite put my finger on it and Miss Marple's insights earlier have been helpful ... seems something more though than him being an "organ grinder’s monkey" ...

[rich]

Posted by: henry | November 25, 2018 at 01:08 PM

been careful ...

[henry]

Cue your Gordon Lightfoot.., this is an early nor’easter. Won’t hit Superior, but Lake Michigan should get a good stirring up. I have light NE breeze right now...supposed to pop up to 45 mph or so by sundown.

Fire & beer plus a good view that direction. I’m
Set,

[rich]

crud ... be careful ... turning out to be a nice day here after the crappy rain and chill the last few days.

[Narciso79]

Something like an orangutans butt?

[rich]

Posted by: Narciso79 | November 25, 2018 at 01:13 PM

ha ... well he is showing his ass like a baboon, but more me looking for connections that probably don't exist ...

[Narciso79]

He's like one of the kingpins (brennan) lesser minions not bullseye

[henry]

Rich, it came out last week that BK is funded by a lefty, Oxxxxx (not Obama). Got a $600k grant for the last reported quarter.

[MissMarple2]

rich,

I can provide evidence of him destabilizing GOP presidents going all the way back to Bush 41.

Why no one has called him out on this, I do not know. Kurt Schlichter started the cruise director mockery, but that's about it. The guy who founded the American Spectator (whose name escapes me right now) wrote a lovely piece years ago saying Kristol was the type of guy who liked to sit in his study sipping brandy and wearing a smoking jacket, when he doesn't smoke.

[MissMarple2]

R. Emmett Tyrell. I remembered his name after I posted.

[henry]

According to Julie Kelly of American Greatness, the sugar daddy funding much of Kristol's NeverTrumper activities is left-wing billionaire Pierre Omidyar, the co-founder of eBay.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pjmedia.com/trending/report-never-trumper-bill-kristol-gets-funding-from-left-wing-billionaire/amp/

[James D.]

9-0 Giants over Eagles. Suck it, loathsome, Godless Philadelphia vermin!

Sorry. Couldn’t help myself.

[rich]

you certainly opened my eyes that he was never what he appeared to be.

>>>Got a $600k grant for the last reported quarter.

Posted by: henry | November 25, 2018 at 01:22 PM<<<

i had read about that and iirc someone had flagged up something earlier. unsurprising.

[rich]

surprised google let that escape ...

[rich]

Posted by: James D. | November 25, 2018 at 01:30 PM

a lot of time left for the Giants to figure out how to lose.

[Jim Eagle]

We had our Village Christmas parade last night. Firetruckpaloozza, all decorated out with lights, and ornaments, et.al. Then the mayor lights the tree which is in Lake Agawam park across from the Memorial. The village is all deck out in the Christmas spirit.

My Dad started the Christmas fund, and installed the electrical system and permanent under the pavement pipes for the tree's that span the length of Main St. and Job's Lane. Really pretty. Gets you into the spirit.

Now we have to get in the mood to us that spirit to put up a tree:🎄🎅🤶

[rich]

>>>Beijing to Judge Every Resident Based on Behavior...<<<

the enlightened dictatorship ...

[James D.]

No doubt, rich. But it’s been such a disaster of a season that I have to crow while I can.

[Jim Eagle]

henry,

I know Ethanol is only mandated in a few states and blue hells like Portland but all the automakers build a lot of flex fuel vehicles. i don't think it is going away because of Wyoming fracking but YMMV.

[Jim Eagle]

henry,

Just re-read your post. Now, I have figured out you are talking about oil not ethanol. My bad.

[Account Deleted]

The missionary's last word: "Ouch."

[henry]

JiB, the US requirement for imported oil will go away as drilling increases. Flex fuel vehicles raise costs (as doelnethanol as fuel). My mileage already suffers from that, and my small engines suffer even more from the blends.

Note, I live on a grain farm. My property value is directly linked to ethanol as much as any schmoe in Iowa. It should be kept for drinking, not for fuel.

[rich]

corn alcohol ... yikes.

[DrJ]

The Camp Fire now has been extinguished.

A massive wildfire that killed dozens of people and destroyed thousands of homes in Northern California has been fully contained after burning for more than two weeks, authorities said Sunday.

The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said the Camp fire had been surrounded by firefighters after several days of rain in the Paradise area.

The nation's deadliest wildfire in a century killed at least 85 people, and 249 are on a list of those unaccounted for. The number of missing dropped in recent days as officials confirmed that more people were alive.

[MissMarple2]

https://quodverum.com/2018/11/325/if-we-could-harness-the-power-of-immorality.html

Wictor discusses isolationism. Rand Paul takes a hit.

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

"Beijing to Judge Every Resident Based on Behavior."

Isn't that the goal of Facebook and Google for this country?

[rich]

>>>Isn't that the goal of Facebook and Google for this country?

Posted by: Frau Edith Steingehirn | November 25, 2018 at 02:06 PM<<<

indeed it is. fb and goog helped china build their's so right out the box they'll be able to import a working model.

[henry]

FB, goolag , et al appear to use that model for censorship today.

[rich]

>>>FB, goolag , et al appear to use that model for censorship today.

Posted by: henry | November 25, 2018 at 02:16 PM<<<

it will be much heavier handed once it is fully operational.

[henry]

Is Papadopolous an Israeli spy? These spy games get so twisty, it is amazing the main players don’t obliterate themselves in their schemes. A thread:

https://twitter.com/stuinsd/status/1066762340857593856?s=21

[henry]

Rich, heavier handed? As in tied to single payer healthcare access?

[rich]

>>>Rich, heavier handed? As in tied to single payer healthcare access?

Posted by: henry | November 25, 2018 at 02:24 PM<<<

employment, career development, access to banking, healthcare as you say ...

[Jane]

Just back from a terrific lunch with Mr. & Mrs. Marlene. Mr. Marlene is one hell of a great cook! Absolutely delicious!

[Narciso79]

He was an energy consultant as such he had fingers in many pies the 10k retainer was refused came from an Israeli businessman with south African connections?

[rich]

Posted by: henry | November 25, 2018 at 02:23 PM

all conspiracies seem to circle back around to those sneaky jews ...

[Narciso79]

This came through the Israeli charge de affairs in London erica t.

[Jim Eagle]

CH & maryrose,

Don't look now but Browns are up 28-7 on the downstate Bengals. Yowza.

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

Lucky Jane and Marlene with her own great cook.

[rich]

>>>Posted by: Narciso79 | November 25, 2018 at 02:40 PM

so what is her role in all this?

[henry]

Roger Simon on social rating, NSA already does this (?):

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/china-the-nsa-google-and-the-war-on-freedom/

[Captain Hate]

Too bad the Manson family didn't prevent this:

http://insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/64152?__twitter_impression=true

[Captain Hate]

Don't look now but Browns are up 28-7 on the downstate Bengals. Yowza.

Guess which team has Hue Jackson.

[henry]

MOSCOW (AP) — #Ukraine says #Russia opens fire on Ukrainian navy ships in Kerch Strait near #Crimea, one of them damaged.

https://twitter.com/apdiplowriter/status/1066779036628762624?s=21

[jimmyk]

Too much speculation for me to want to sift through in all that Papadopoulos Twitter stuff.

[Old Lurker]

Jim "Was she all talk or did she actually make an impact?"

Was she elected to the Senate?

There is your answer.

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

jimmyk -
Extra points for spelling his name right.

[jimmyk]

Thanks, Frau :). It was an educated guess.

[Narciso79]

I call him papadop, timofeevs valdai group is a middleman cut out khashoggi Comey every one and their brother used it.

[Frau Edith Steingehirn]

The thread didn't even spell it correctly! "Pdop" gets no respect. If he hangs out with Tom Arnold I question his sanity.

[Pinandpuller]

They shoot him with about 32 arrows and give us all a little relief.
What a slime mold.

Posted by: The Infamous Ignatz | November 25, 2018 at 12:44 PM
Go into all the world and preach #nevertrump to every creature.

[Pinandpuller]

An investigation into an asylum seeker posing as a 15-year-old boy at an English school has concluded he is a grown man.

The man was placed in the Stoke High School in Ipswich, Suffolk, after entering the United Kingdom illegally and claiming asylum, with the Home Office accepting that he was a “child”.

There was a backlash from parents after pupils circulated pictures of the Middle Eastern migrant on social media, with one accompanying a picture of him with the caption: “How’s there a 30-year-old man in our maths class?”

The Home Office is declining to say what age they now believe him to be, but he is reportedly around 6’1 and had a Facebook account which described him as having been a student at the Islamic Azad University in Abadan, Iran, and showed pictures of him drinking beer and sporting a moustache and heavy stubble.

“I’m ashamed both for the school and the Government for allowing this to happen,” said one parent, who kept his young daughters out of the school until the man was removed.

“They have both failed to protect our children. The teachers should be sacked.”

[MissMarple2]

HAPPENING NOW: Hundreds of migrants rush California port of entry, port has been shut down pic.twitter.com/qNxi8nucW7

— Breaking911 (@breaking9111) November 25, 2018

Video at link.

[Account Deleted]

the politics of stupidity....another day ending in Y.

[Narciso79]

Ruh roh:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/revealed-tory-tycoon-christopher-morans-links-to-sex-for-sale-in-chelsea-cloisters-vdszpf50x

[MissMarple2]

https://twitter.com/CBPSanDiego

This is the account of the Customs and Border Patrol t San Diego. You can go there for updates and currently they have suspended traffic both into and out of the US.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Papasnuffleupagus's actions since his plea deal have indicated a man who was hardly the wet behind the ears junior nobody he was portrayed as early on.
He and Carter Page may end up doing more than anyone to smoke out the prog nutjobs pulling the strings.

[henry]

BREAKING: U.S. military helicopter are currently heavily patrolling the U.S. - Mexico border near the border city of Tijuana, as illegal immigrants try to storm the U.S. border.

https://twitter.com/breakingnlive/status/1066787422422347783?s=21

[Narciso79]

It's like a game of twister:

https://mobile.twitter.com/climateaudit/status/1035843921241227264

[Narciso79]

Five months before:

https://youtu.be/Bm4ZwNZTvbA

[Pinandpuller]

Don the Impaler

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I'm surprised Steve McIntyre hasn't experienced Arkancide, he's been such a thorn in the side of prog liars for so long.

[Pinandpuller]

henry

What's the difference between a grant and a payoff?

[henry]

Pin, spelling?

[Pinandpuller]

Hillary Clinton is a 10 year old boy. She wanted to be a marine too:

August 8, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – Hillary Clinton is considering becoming a Methodist minister or lay preacher, according to her pastor.

Bill Shillady, Clinton's spiritual advisor and the author of a forthcoming book of the failed presidential candidate's daily devotionals, told this to The Atlantic.

The Atlantic's August 6 article, "Hillary Wants to Preach," by Emma Green, explores Clinton's apparent dream of being an ordained Methodist minister. The article speculates that Clinton has held back from discussing her faith too much in public recently, and this could be one of the reasons why she lost in 2016. It also notes that Clinton has been mocked or had her sincerity questioned when she speaks about religion.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/hillary-clinton-is-considering-becoming-a-methodist-pastor