On To Moscow!

Michael Cohen claims to have chased a Trump Tower-type deal in Moscow until just before the Republican primary in 2016, despite previous testimony that he (and more to the point, Trump) dropped the effort before the Iowa primaries.

Possible explanations:

(a) Cohen is lying. Problematic, since there are (or ought to be) emails and phone records that overlap with his new story (e.g., a phone chat with an aide to Putin's press secretary).

(b) Trump has been lying. Possible!

(c) Fog of deal-making. Folks who have worked on the Big Deals, whether it be a real estate project, a book/movie deal, an elaborate tax scheme, or something else know that deals generally have the potential for a zombie status, where they aren't alive but no one can quite kill them. Why? Because there are generally many constituents, most of whom did not achieve whatever there current status is by taking "no" for an answer. Knowing nothing about it, we can be sure that if Trump has been pursuing a property idea for Moscow there are financiers, property owners, builders, prospective tenants, government officials and various middlemen that can see a payday for themselves if a deal happens. In fact, a day later the Times reports that Felix Sater, a grifter in Trump's orbit, had pushed a Moscow deal for years and never stopped.

So. Knowing Trump's reputation and impulsive and subject to giving weight to the last person with whom he spoke, it is entirely plausible that at some strategy session in January 2016 Trump agreed to cut the Moscow push and focus on the Presidential run. That may or may not have made business and political sense but it was of no help to intrepid dealmaker Sater, who soldiered on. Cohen took his calls, played along a bit, and may or may not have kept Trump in the loop. If Cohen can produce evidence of email exchanges or notable meetings with Trump on this topic, that will be one thing; if his evidence that he briefed Trump is that Cohen remembers giving him an updated elevator pitch while in Trump Tower or mentioned it in one of their many phone calls, well good luck with that - maybe it didn't happen, maybe it did and Trump brushed it off and promptly forgot.

As to whether this is evidence of collusion with the Russian government during the election, well, not in itself. For those excited by the possibility that Trump lied, well, wait until they learn about the daily sunrise (and the monthly full moon!).

ERRATA: Back when he surfaced I mocked the absurd notion that Team Trump would outsource their Moscow outreach to George Papadopoulos, who had no history of Russian contacts and had not been in Trump's orbit long enough for his coffee to get cold. That was obvious then and confirmed now - Trump's top people knew how to reach people in Moscow even without the help of Mr. P.

Comments

[matt - deplore me if you must]

I am still waiting on photos of the Russian hookers.

[GUS]

Who paid for the RUSSIAN DOSSIER?
Quite simple really. Mueller needs to subpoena RODHAM, like with a cloth. HE then needs to ask her some pretty simple questions.
DID YOU PAY FOR A RUSSIAN DOSSIER to SMEAR MR TRUMP and sway the election with the help of RUSSIA?????

Pretty easy. Wouldn't take 2 years.

[glasater]

From what I've read it seems Cohen was pursuing the 'Russia' deal on his own self..pretty much.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Muller is proving beyond any doubt that international hucksters don't pay taxes, lawyers are slimy and people lie.
He's not proving anything he was appointed to, but he is proving those other things everyone has known for ever.

[Old Geezer]

Cohen first says "A". Cohen later says "B"--and "I lied when I said "A".

Well it's a mortal lock that Cohen lied at least one time---but which time?

And the odds are pretty good that he was lying both times and the objective truth is "C".

[GUS]

I love your choices Tom Maguire. Play along with the charade. Pretend this investigation is real.

So (B) Trump may have lied. About what?
About the DOSSIER that he paid umpteen million for in an effort to sway the election with the help of RUSSIANS. This bull shit is laughable.

After 2 years we have a prosecutor who has NOTHING.
There is NOTHING.

[henry]

Old Geezer, that logic trick broke Harvey Mudd's androids.

[henry]

Harry, but auto cucumber.

[Jane]

Trump said yesterday before he got in the helicopter that he was working on the Russian deal until he won the election. He said there was a good chance he would lose and he wasn't going to give up his business. Once he won, the deal was abandoned and he worked on being president.

[Old Lurker]

Fox Headline: "Team Trump says DOJ ignored Comey fibs as Mueller collects perjury scalps"

Thanks for being on the team, Jeff...

[Captain Hate]

So when does Sleepy Jeff get a standing ovation from Colbert's trained seals?

[MissMarple2]

Putin bro-fives MBS pic.twitter.com/5ojFO9m5aC

— Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) November 30, 2018

Video at link. If you ask me, MBS and Putin are trolling the American media. Successfully, judging from the reactions on Twitter.

[henry]

old manuscript found. Lots of poems by John Donne.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/nov/30/unknown-john-donne-manuscript-discovered-in-suffolk

[Tom R]

So if Mueller's out of control, why isn't Whitaker doing anything about it?

Possible answers why Whitaker isn't doing anything about Mueller:

1) Whitaker is a corrupt member of the Deep State Swamp just like Rosenstein.
2) Sleepy Matt is incompetent just like Sleepy Jeff.
3) Mueller isn't out of control.

[Tom R]

I don't think Macron wants MBS to answer his question truthfully. It might cause self-esteem problems.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/french-president-macron-chides-saudi-leader-at-g-20-summit-saying-you-never-listen-to-me

[Extraneus]

Blue State Blues: Democrats Stole the Election in California — Legally, Through ‘Ballot Harvesting’

Few people noticed when Gov. Jerry Brown signed the changes in AB1921 into law two years ago. In the past, California allowed only relatives or people living in the same household to drop off mail ballots for another voter. The new law allowed anyone, even a paid political campaign worker, to collect and return ballots — “harvesting” them, in political slang.

…

In Orange County alone, where every House seat went Democratic, “the number of Election Day vote-by-mail dropoffs was unprecedented — over 250,000,” Fred Whitaker, chairman of the county Republican Party, said in a note to supporters. “This is a direct result of ballot harvesting allowed under California law for the first time. That directly caused the switch from being ahead on election night to losing two weeks later.”

…

For Democrats, the ballot harvesting was all part of a greater effort to get out the vote from their supporters, particularly from occasional voters.

“We beat Republicans on the ground, fair and square,” said Katie Merrill, a Democratic consultant deeply involved in November campaigns. “Many of the field plans included (ballot harvesting) as an option to deliver voters or their ballots” to the polls.

This is illegal elsewhere, at least for now. More at the link.

[GUS]

I thought those guys and Rip Van Sessions were all WHITE HATS?

I mean, we need to get a game day scorecard on this nonsense.

NO ONE has been held accountable for MASSIVE FBI corruption. Strzok said he's "Stop Trump", "fuck trump", "insurance policy". And he LET RODHAM off the hook when her CRIMES WERE OBVIOUS. Strzok told us that he didn't ACT on his bias. UTTTTTER MOTHERFUCKING NONSENSE. Yet he skates.
So I am to believe that something is going to change???? Who will prosecute the PROSECUTORS???

There is no 4-D, there was no 4-D and the goal posts keep moving.

So now HUBER is the WHITE HAT HERO???? What does HUBER even look like??

[GUS]

I don't think MBS gives a flying fuck what MARCON thinks.

[GUS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4sF5uAEIaU

[Tom R]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-team-renews-claims-comey-misled-congress-in-wake-of-cohen-plea

Note the subject line of the letter from John Dowd.

[Pinandpuller]

How about if the NSA drops a Scooby Doo Trap on Mueller and tears off his mask once and for all?

[Captain Hate]

Tom,

I think you feel some sort of provincial pride in Sessions but the fact that his most obdurate defenders refuse to admit is that he wasn't doing the job to the satisfaction of DJT. I don't know why that makes him any different than Tillerson or Priebus other than length of time on the job.

[anonamom]

Sarah Palin
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@SarahPalinUSA
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🙏🏼 for Alaska. Our family is intact - house is not... I imagine that’s the case for many, many others. So thankful to be safe; praying for our state following the earthquake.

[Tom R]

BTW has anyone here seen that 1 September 2017 letter from Dowd to Rosenstein before today? I don't recall seeing it published anywhere until today.

[Marlene]

Jane,does daddy's house have damage?

[MissMarple2]

No, I had not seen it, Tom.

I wonder if any action was taken.

[boatbuilder]

Knowing nothing about it, we can be sure that if Trump has been pursuing a property idea for Moscow there are financiers, property owners, builders, prospective tenants, government officials and various middlemen that can see a payday for themselves if a deal happens.

And what are the odds that not a single one of them is anti-Trump politically and/or sympathetic to the Democrat/Anti-Trump cause?

If Trump were still pursuing the Trump Tower Moscow thing later in the game than he said he was, all one of those persons has to do is tell Meuller and/or a WaPo or NYT reporter and they have what they need, Cohen or no Cohen.

That dog has not barked. Its been well over 2 years now. What does that tell us?

Occam's Razor points to explanation a).

[Tom R]

I think you feel some sort of provincial pride in Sessions but in my opinion he wasn't doing the job to the satisfaction of DJT.

FIFY

How long does Whitaker get before you start referring to him as Sleepy Matt?

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

Spot on in re Sessions. A more honorable, loyalist to DJT would have resigned on the spot if he had to recuse himself from any probe regarless of the circumstances. I keep reading and hearing about Sessions is just genuine nice, Southern gentleman (whatever that means) when in fact, from his first day on the job has jeopardized the Trump presidency more than Mueller has.

Trump being a non-politician got some bad poliitical advice ever since he announced his bid. Its taking him 3+ years to learn his way and shed the likes of Preibus, Tillerson, Sessions, et.al. Then he decided to go the uniform route with Mattis, Kelly, Linke, just to surround himself with loyal soldiers. Not any presidency in my lifetime has been attacked from the outside as well as the inside like his has.

The outsiders now have the House, and the Senate with Romney, who will replace McRino like a T. But someone told Trump to make Whitaker the acting AG, instead of Rosenstein. He said he didn't know him, so who was it that gave him that idea? Rudy? I think it was Grassley whispering to Kelly.

[Captain Hate]

Whenever the fuck I feel like it, Tom.

[Another Bob]

Jim Jordan appointed ranking member of house oversight committee after Meadows mysteriously drops out.

[Tom R]

A more honorable, loyalist to DJT would have resigned on the spot if he had to recuse himself from any probe regarless of the circumstances.

You are treating your assumption/opinion as fact. Haven't you figured it out by now you can't take Trump 100% literally on everything he says?

No one here knows what private conservations Trump and Sessions have had over the past 2 years. For all we know Sessions offered to resign a long time ago but Trump didn't accept it.

[Tom R]

But someone told Trump to make Whitaker the acting AG

My bet would be Sessions is who recommended Whitaker to Trump. Who else would know his credentials better than his boss?

[MissMarple2]

I freely admit I don't know what's going on.

Between the media lying and not covering things they should cover, Trump's predeliction to not telegraph his moves, and the various factions pushing different heroes and villains depending on the day of the week, I have hit my limit on trying to sort it out.

I am not angry with anyone who has their own theories. Not even mad at Old Lurker, whom I only hope will cheer up just a wee bit. LOL!

[Pinandpuller]

What was said of McClellan could be said of Mueller:

I like this man. He knows how to look busy, fuck around in DC and make shit up.

[Tom R]

Whenever the fuck I feel like it, Tom.

If Mueller is truly a Black Hat trying to destroy Trump, then enough time has passed for me to start referring to Whitaker as Sleepy Matt. He is obviously not doing what Trump hired him to do and is failing to reign in the out of control Mueller.

[Pinandpuller]

Is God punishing AK for Obama's lies

[Pinandpuller]

Muller is proving beyond any doubt that international hucksters don't pay taxes, lawyers are slimy and people lie.
He's not proving anything he was appointed to, but he is proving those other things everyone has known for ever.

Posted by: The Infamous Ignatz | November 30, 2018 at 12:49 PM

So far he's proving only Democrats get immunity from prosecution.

[Manuel Transmission]

Just received over the transom. Take it for the humor, at least.

Rebuilding New Orleans after Katrina often caused residents to be challenged to prove home titles back hundreds of years.  That is because of community history stretching back over two centuries during which houses were passed along through generations of family, sometimes making it quite difficult to establish a paper trail of ownership. 

A New Orleans lawyer sought a FHA rebuilding loan for a client. He was told the loan would be granted upon submission of satisfactory proof of ownership of the parcel of property as it was being offered as collateral. It took the lawyer 3 months, but he was able to prove title to the property dating back to 1803. After sending the information to the FHA, he received the following reply. 

(Actual reply from FHA): 

"Upon review of your letter adjoining your client's loan application, we note that the request is supported by an Abstract of Title. While we compliment the able manner in which you have prepared and presented the application, we must point out that you have only cleared title to the proposed collateral property back to 1803. Before final approval can be accorded, it will be necessary to clear the title back to its origin." 

And here is the great letter the lawyer responded with: 
(Actual response): 

"Your letter regarding title in Case No.189156 has been received. I note that you wish to have proof of title extended further than the 
206 years already covered in the present application. I was unaware that any educated person in this country, particularly those working with real property, would not know that Louisiana was purchased by the United States from France in 1803 , the year of origin of title identified in our application. For the edification of uninformed FHA bureaucrats, the title to the land prior to U.S. ownership was obtained from France, which had acquired it by Right of Conquest from Spain. The land came into the possession of Spain by Right of Discovery made in the year 1492 by a sea captain named Christopher Columbus, who had been granted the privilege of seeking a new route to India by the Spanish monarch, Queen Isabella. The good Queen Isabella, being a pious woman and almost as careful about titles as the FHA, took the precaution of securing the blessing of the Pope before she sold her jewels to finance Columbus 's expedition. Now the Pope, as I'm sure you may know, is the emissary of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and God, it is commonly accepted, created this world. Therefore, I believe it is safe to presume that God also made that part of the world called Louisiana. God, therefore, would be the owner of origin and His origins date back to before the beginning of time, the world as we know it, and the FHA. I hope you find God's original claim to be satisfactory. Now, may we have our damn reconstruction loan?" 

The  loan was  immediately approved. Not only is this one of the best e-mails I have received, it is a great history. 

[Jane]

MARLENE,

Daddy can't tell. It's dark there and they have no power. He thought there was some structural damage. Not still talking to him because he needs to save his power on the phone. Apparently he flew in, Mama picked him up, he did not go inside the house but rather took Scout on a walk, and it happened almost immediately. He texted me while he was still outside. It was probably 15 minutes before I could find a report of it.

[Pinandpuller]

Sundance picks up Huber's Hubris:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/30/foreboding-fbi-raids-home-of-clinton-foundation-whistleblower/#more-157203

[Tom R]

Hopefully Kid Rock will accept the invitation to come on The View.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/419153-joy-behar-responds-to-kid-rock-insult-by-inviting-him-on-the-view

[Pinandpuller]

Suppose that Trump is Pompey and the Moon Hispania

[MissMarple2]

Here’s the islanded car at the wrecked anchorage off ramp. pic.twitter.com/626As53hzF

— Nat Herz (@Nat_Herz) November 30, 2018

I believe this is the off ramp to the airport. Photo at link.

[Pinandpuller]

Does AK have similar earthquake codes as CA? That's maybe the only area CA really seems to have their shit together.

[Jim Eagle]

You are treating your assumption/opinion as fact. Haven't you figured it out by now you can't take Trump 100% literally on everything he says?

Well Tom, you are misinterpreting my remarks, which seems to be a habit with you. I don't give a flying fuck what Trump would think or not think. I am only noting what an honorable, loyalist to Trump would/should/could do. You are only looking at Sessions through a completely different lense that I am. In fact, Sessions was weak from the minute he allowed a known weasel like Franken to get him to admit to a nothing burger diplomatic even meeting as if he committed treason. He should have immediately written a letter of resignation and hand-delivered to Trump.

[MissMarple2]

The Anchorage Daily News has disabled their paywall due to the earthquake. Additional coverage can be found at this link:

https://www.adn.com/

[Tom R]

I am only noting what an honorable, loyalist to Trump would/should/could do.

How do you know Sessions didn't offer to resign a long time ago but Trump rejected it?

Nothing personal but I think its safe to conclude Trump obviously doesn't share the same opinion on what constitutes loyalty and honor as you do.

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Maybe this drama, playing out behind the scenes, is why seemingly all of DC, the deceitful MFM and a few sinister billionaires have turned the anti-Trump fever up to a Bazillion degrees:

https://www.icij.org/investigations/panama-papers/

[Pinandpuller]

She really does hate her dad

[johns]

I interpreted the FBI raid that seized the Clinton documents to mean that the FBI is seriously investigating this. Trump has mentioned this issue. He knows about it . Why would he allow the FBI/deep state to take it away from him?

[Marlene]

I'm watching Dana PeRINO,but she is giving good coverage from Anchorage. The damage looks extensive. Some roads look like sinkholes and the local TV station has damage. Without power homeowners won't know if walls are cracked or ceilings are falling in. Hope daddy and Momma are safe.

[GUS]

Jack, you're going to make him cry!!!

[Jane]

Marlene,

They are both safe, but I bet they are cold as hell.

[GUS]

Nothing personal Tom R, but this is a load of your normal horse shit.

{{Nothing personal but I think its safe to conclude Trump obviously doesn't share the same opinion on what constitutes loyalty and honor as you do.}}

Read the shit you write. Nothing personal.

[Old Lurker]

MM "Not even mad at Old Lurker, whom I only hope will cheer up just a wee bit. LOL!"

The good news, MM, is that except for politics, I am in a good mood. I had say to to SBW a few months ago because like you, he was concerned.

Except for the fact that our world is ending, things I can pretend to control are all good.

:-)

[Jim Eagle]

Tom,

How do you know that what Trump thinks, and what I think, aren't the same?

You have to get over yourself. The rest of us have.

[Old Lurker]

Jack, who is this "Tom" person you seem to be conversing with?

Killfile still works even now after TM cleaned out the rest of them.

[Old Lurker]

Jane, I hope he has enough phone juice to text you from time to time.

He knows we are all worried for him.

[Tom R]

Nothing personal Tom R, but this is a load of your normal horse shit.

I figured that was a nicer way of wording it that telling him that what he wrote was a load of horse shit.

[MissMarple2]

Old Lurker,

I faced losing my world and discovered I can get along in the new. Life is good.

Look at it this way: at least you don't have to go to Kroger on Friday afternoon, because your daughter needs a refill on her prescription and there are no dog treats, which in this house is an emergency!!

And neither of us are facing earthquake damage like daddy!

[Tom R]

How do you know that what Trump thinks, and what I think, aren't the same?

I don't know what Trump thinks but I also know you don't get to establish the criteria for what constitutes loyalty and honesty to Trump.

[GUS]

2:55 and
2:58

Tom R, I've been correct about you all along.

You're very small. And I think we all know why.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

:)

[Jim Eagle]

I don't know what Trump thinks but I also know you don't get to establish the criteria for what constitutes loyalty and honesty to Trump.

How the hell do you know that I don't get to establish the criteria for Trump? Do you know me, and my relationships with people. You make so many assumptions here about people, politics, issues, etc. that you haven't go a clue. All guesses. Pack it in.

And if horseshit statements and comments here were worth anything, you be the richest man on JOM hands down.

[Account Deleted]

So why raid to seize what's already in congressional hands? Getting the crumbs?

Or has someone figured out what wasn't turned over from what was turned over?

OMG. I'm developing a 4D plaque on my brain!

:D Happy Friday everybody. I need a day awf!

[jimmyk]

Tom R keeps asking the same questions he's been asking for weeks, ignoring the answers he's been given numerous times. I'm not bothering any more.

But I'll just say this: Trump or Whitaker can't just close down Mueller without risking screams of "Obstruction of Justice" by Democrats, and, yes, impeachment. Mueller is an enemy agent with an unlimited budget, and needs to be terminated, with him and all his buddies in prison, but it handled carefully. I don't know why Trump and Whitaker haven't come out yet with all the goods on FISAgate and Uranium One, but it's not because Mueller is a good guy. If anything it's because he's not.

[Account Deleted]

At least no one has said, yet, "Hey there! Whoa! We're all on the same team!"

LOL

[GUS]

:)

[Pinandpuller]

Why is it judges get to enjoin parents from "religious instruction" in divorce disputes? I'm just kidding, we all know that means "Bible based instruction."

TX Mom Forces 6-Year-Old SON to Live as Girl #SaveJames

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVNnnR8i1Ko

There's something called Gender Mourning where a mom is so despondent at not having a girl they are only comforted by dressing their son like a daughter and getting him to act effeminate.

[GUS]

Jimmyk, there will be fallout no matter what DJT does.
If there is this BIG BIG BIG 4-D ending coming.

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? Who prosecutes it?? Are we supposed to believe that the MFM is going to accept the TRUTH??? This isn't a game.

NOTHING PERSONAL.

This is real. It's obvious that the FBI and INTEL Agencies are BEYOND CORRUPT.

There will be more pain before this all over.

[Jim Eagle]

Getting our first taste of snow but the ground isn't cold enough for it to stick. Praying that it stays away until I leave on the 7th to The (other) Game, in Philly. Then continue on down 95 to Raleigh, hopefully me and the beagles are in The Hammock by Monday evening.

Go Navy, Beat Army!

[That should draw RG out of his hidely hole:]

[jimmyk]

@3:12 "but it handled carefully" s/b "but it has to be handled carefully."

[Tom R]

Tom R, I've been correct about you all along.

You're very small. And I think we all know why.

Pray tell what exactly is it that you think you got correct about me?

[Account Deleted]

Two things i have correct about you, Tom R:
(even though you dint ax me--- that was for you Pin)

1. You are a devoted father; and,
2. You have an uncanny ability to "piss off the Pope and the entire College of Cardinals."

Fair to say? :D

[jimmyk]

A shout-out to Mayor Bane on his tolerance of homeless and mentally ill people in NYC wandering and living on the streets. Saturday night my younger sister was walking along Broadway on the UWS, and suddenly this demented lady jumped at her and knocked her over. In falling she broke her arm. The perp got away. Some nearby pedestrians were helpful, the police came and she was taken to the hospital in an ambulance. She may need surgery.

Hopeful that the perp will be caught, as the police seem to know about these lowlifes. She just has't been up to making the trek to the police station to look at pix.

[Tom R]

Tom R keeps asking the same questions he's been asking for weeks, ignoring the answers he's been given numerous times.

I always make an effort to respond to anyone who answers a question that I pose when their response comes across to me as a serious response and demonstrates a willingness on their part for a mature back and forth discussion.

[jimmyk]

As narc would say, their lips were moving.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/11/30/npr-blatantly-lies-about-donald-trump-jr-s-2017-senate-testimony/

[Old Lurker]

Coulda been worse, Jimmy.

In SF that might have happened, but she would have fallen into a pile of human excrement and been stuck by used needles.

[jimmyk]

True dat, OL, but with three more years of DeBlasio I would expect to see NYC becoming more like SF.

[Tom R]

2. You have an uncanny ability to "piss off the Pope and the entire College of Cardinals."

I do agree with you that there are a few people here who get upset when I challenge their assumptions/opinions. You possess that uncanny ability as well which is one reason I like having discussions with you.

[GUS]

Yeah OL, even earthquakes are smart enough to stay away from San FranSHITsco.

[Pinandpuller]

Llego my Eggo

Apparently India is second to America in privately held firearms but at only 70 million. You can hide behind that many cows, surely.

[Jim Eagle]

Forgot to mention that Trump knows Macri because of his father Franco. Macri is a civil engineer and ran the Fiat/Peugot ops on Argentina for a while. I remember him as the Chair of Boca Juniors. He got his BSCE from the Pontifical University, where Pope Che got his Chem degree.

He also did his MBA in Columbia, and for awhile at Wharton (another Trump coincidence).

[hrtshpdbox]

For all we know Sessions offered to resign a long time ago but Trump didn't accept it.

We do know that happened a year-and-a-half ago, unless you're playing "4D For All We Know"
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/336639-sessions-floated-resign-amid-rift-with-trump-report

[Pinandpuller]

Is there a sleazy used car dealer in India who goes for that "That ain't no bull" nonsense?

[henry]

BREAKING NEWS: The Justice Department Inspector General’s report from earlier in 2018 detailed evidence that the Obama Justice Department had sought to shut down the FBI’s investigation of Clinton Foundation.

https://twitter.com/breakingnlive/status/1068594192413274114?s=21

[Account Deleted]

:-) Tom R

[clarice]

Sorry about your sister, jimmyk.

[Account Deleted]

Sleazy richshaw dealer yes.

[Account Deleted]

henry--- does that breaking news warrant a "Holy MTHRFCKN SHT!" ? Axing for a fren.

[jimmyk]

henry, how can that be "Breaking News"? Because it wasn't reported on by the MSM?

[Pinandpuller]

Toddler Bitten 15 Times by 'Somalians' at Play Centre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=24&v=HcABek5iTU0

[Tom R]

We do know that happened a year-and-a-half ago, unless you're playing "4D For All We Know"

Thank you for the citation. I was aware that Sessions had offered to resign which is one reason JiB's comments came across as horse shit. Sessions did do the honorable and loyal thing but for reasons we don't know Trump did not accept the resignation. I always interpreted it as kabuki theater and that Trump wasn't really upset with Sessions.

[Account Deleted]

based on the twitter comments i guess it warrants not.

[Old Lurker]

There is a difference between "offering to resign" and "resigning".

In the former, it transfers the burden of the decision onto the boss, and that in turn can blow up in the bosses face either way.

True honor would recognize that a situation will be untenable to his boss and his organization and that stepping down is the only honorable thing to do. Bonus points go if the employee was smart enough to see the conflict coming and not taking the job in the first place.

[Extraneus]

I have to agree with OL on this, and Sessions' (undated, if I remember correctly) resignation letter is evidence of it. The letter said he was asked to resign, putting the blame on Trump, and no where in the letter was there any statement to the effect that the President deserved an AG who wasn't recused or otherwise limited from carrying out his duties.

Speaking of which, I tendered my own resignation email today. :-)

[Old Lurker]

If the right person had been placed in that job instead of Sessions, there may well not have been a SC; if there had been a SC, it would have been run by the AG and not some DAG; and for damn sure the other AG would have communicated and shared trust with his boss.

Trump's fault for picking the wrong man and for letting him stay past the second day of his recusal.

We are in the mess we are in because of those two mistakes.

[Old Lurker]

Yay Ext!

[Jim Eagle]

Thanks, OL, for clarifying before I had to do it. Sometimes Tom R is too close to the trigger. If you are honorable, loyal, and know you fucking screwed up in front of Dipshit Al Franken. You resign. Period. No escape.

But Tom R is so much into idiotic 4D chess he can't see that the pawn captured the Bishop, and as a result the King is exposed, on all 4 levels.