Sessions Out

Embattled Jeff Sessions out. Do we presume a replacement will be confirmed during a lame duck session? Mueller probably has things he wants to move on post-election - it would be nice to know who is boss is.

But forget about Russia - Sessions was aboutthe last man standing in opposition to marijuana reform:

Bucking a bipartisan trend to support less harsh tactics for drug offenders, Sessions instructed federal prosecutors to file the most serious charges possible, and to seek the death penalty when appropriate. He moved to pull back on the department’s work on reforming abusive police departments.

And while not exactly declaring war on states with legal marijuana — still an illegal drug under federal law — Sessions made clear he was eager to roll back the growth of the cannabis industry.

I think we can do better.

TWEETING: From the boss:

We are pleased to announce that Matthew G. Whitaker, Chief of Staff to Attorney General Jeff Sessions at the Department of Justice, will become our new Acting Attorney General of the United States. He will serve our Country well....

Well, "Acting" AG.

Comments

[derwill]

I think Trump just effectively checked Mueller. Especially if Rosenstein also resigns.

[Eye Doctor .]

Christy

[henry]

Fat RINO Bastard is Chris Christie

[daddy]

I am thrilled about Dunleavy leaving dopey Begich in the dust!
Stayed up late, just to see the first results.

That was wonderful to see, Maryrose. Really gave me confidence in our voters up here to see them so decisively dump on Begich. Now he's lost a Senate Race and a Governor's Race, and both times he had tons of outside money promoting him. I hope his Political career is dead and buried.

[Eye Doctor .]

Sessions will go work for Lockheed Martin maybe DLA Piper etc..

[henry]

Mollie Hemingway on Nadler’s impeachment derangement:

https://twitter.com/mzhemingway/status/1060285349677686784?s=21

[Old Lurker]

Exdem's link "I’ve always thought the Clinton Foundation is a very sophisticated way to get around the campaign finance laws and to allow for unlimited donations and an ability to curry favor with a presidential candidate that, quite frankly, is unprecedented in the history of our country ..."

I think it is way worse than that. Going way back to the end of the Robber Barron era and shortly after that when Income Taxes and Anti-Trust new realities landed on the by then owners of vast wealth...they came to realize that above a certain threshold, there is no real marginal utility to actually having a gazillion dollars under your mattress. Once there it would get rapidly depleted by a few generations of death taxes, and paying those taxes often required selling out control of their corporations so they needed an answer. Charitable Foundations could be created to which all their wealth could be transferred tax free, and so long as they ran the boards and so long as the pool of money was available to support lavish life styles and the usual good-for-nothing kids, then they wondered how that was any different from owning the money uder one's mattress? Ford & Rockefeller & Mellons & Morgan & Carnegie all did that.

Along came the Clinton Hillbillies and shazam! We can do that too. And all that money can come in tax free and stay right there for us to use for, say, a daughter's wedding or buying favors, and we can always fly on private jets for "foundation bidness" and you barely even have to file tax returns. Happy as Pigs in Sh*t, those Clinton Foundation founders.

[MJW]

Several comments have suggested the appointment of Session's replacement could be filibustered. I believe Harry Reid changed the senate rules so that presidential appointments are no longer subject to a filibuster.

[Miss Marple]

https://nypost.com/2018/11/07/theres-a-creepy-orange-airglow-around-the-earth/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

The President has even affected space!!!

[Old Lurker]

Granting the right of Congress to exercise some oversight over government operation and spending, where does Nadler get off thinking that entitles him to have any right to know Trump's personal thinking as Trump exercises his independent CEO powers?

Go for it Fatboy.

[henry]

He has power, he'll abuse it like he'd abuse a plate of bonbons

[Extraneus]

I believe Harry Reid changed the senate rules so that presidential appointments are no longer subject to a filibuster.

I thought it was just judicial appointments. In fact, they had to change the rule under McConnell to include Supreme Court appointments.

[Barbara]

Precisely, OL!

I usually don't like to make comments about a person's appearance, but for some reason, Nadler's face has always reminded me of a parking meter.

[Miss Marple]

https://therightscoop.com/jeb-bush-criticizes-trump-and-defends-jim-acosta/

With him and Romney, we can pretty much predict the GOPe wing's strategy.

[MJW]

No, the filibuster rule-change applies to both executive and judicial appointments. Quoting an article in the Guardian:

The US Senate voted on Thursday to change the rules that have enabled Republicans to block Barack Obama's nominees for top administration posts.

By 52 votes to 48, senators approved along partisan lines a measure that would ban the use of the filibuster to prevent nominees from being confirmed. In a speech in support of the measure, majority leader Harry Reid accused Republicans of blocking nominees in the pursuit of unrelated legislative goals.

"For the first time in the history of our republic, Republicans have routinely used the filibuster to prevent President Obama from appointing an executive team and from appointing judges," Reid said. "The need for change is so, so very obvious. It's clearly visible. It's manifest we have to do something to change things."

[Extraneus]

You guys have to read the Mollie Hemmingway piece about Nadler's conversation about impeaching Kavanaugh, etc.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/11/07/incoming-democrat-chairman-dems-will-go-all-in-on-russia-impeach-kavanaugh-for-perjury/

[derwill]

Senate confirmed Sessions by a vote of 52 to 47, so no filibuster. And a party line vote so Dems should be happy the guy they did want is now gone. Heh.

[Miss Marple]

The new Acting Atty General.
As depicted on his home page.
Honest to God. pic.twitter.com/KxkKmEAEtN

— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) November 7, 2018

Link goes to picture, which apparently triggered this reporter.

Hey, he doesn't have those "little tiny arms" like President Trump described Antifa as having!

[Extraneus]

That's great, MJW. I guess the original excluded Supreme Court nominees only?

[derwill]

Nadler “lamented” the “thriving economy.” So Dems hate people getting jobs and staring businesses—that’s going to be a really winning issue for them in 2020.

[Extraneus]

Have you guys experienced the Instapundit link redirecting to PJ Media, so you have to click the Instapundit menu item at PJ Media to actually get to Instapundit? Seems sleazy to me. I'm gonna stop going to his site.

[Miss Marple]

http://thefederalist.com/2018/11/07/the-14-best-quotes-from-trumps-wild-post-midterm-presser/#.W-NSNR2BN2g.twitter

[RattlerGator]

Hmmmm . . . still can't get on the site in my preferred fashion.

And you know, with the news of today, I definitely want to get on the site today.

[Extraneus]

Facebook Allows Sudanese Girl To Be Auctioned For Marriage

In South Sudan, according to Voice of America News, an online auction was being held for marriage rights to a 16 year old girl. South Sudan’s National Alliance for Women Lawyers called the action “a gross human rights violation” which “violates the rights of a girl.” On Facebook, several posts followed the auction. The original poster called the situation a “competition.” At one point, the leading bid was 500 cows and 3 cars.

Based on the posts, it looks as if several regional politicians were involved in the bid. Someone posted, “Cows are more than people.” In a reference to the young woman’s height, the post said, “The kids of the winner are guaranteed for NBA slots.”

[henry]

RG, Typepad signs are screwed across the board

[henry]

DiFi butthurt over Whitaker. I like this guy more every minute

https://twitter.com/johnwhuber/status/1060300431941808128?s=21

[henry]

Snow by Friday. Meh.

[Extraneus]

11/21/2013

U.S. Senate goes 'nuclear,' changes filibuster rules

WASHINGTON — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., pushed through a controversial change to Senate rules Thursday that will make it easier to approve President Obama's nominees but threatens to further divide an already polarized Congress.

Fifty-two Senate Democrats and independents voted to weaken the power of the filibuster. The change reduces the threshold from 60 votes to 51 votes for Senate approval of executive and judicial nominees against unanimous GOP opposition. Three Democrats — Sens. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Carl Levin of Michigan — opposed the change.

The rule change does not apply to Supreme Court nominees, who are still subject to a 60-vote filibuster threshold, or to legislation.

"The American people believe Congress is broken. The American people believe the Senate is broken. And I believe they are right," Reid said Thursday on the Senate floor. "The need for change is so very, very obvious."

Thanks, Harry!

[Tom Maguire]

Since people ask: Sessions was filibustered but under post-nuclear apocalypse rules, so Republicans invoked cloture with a 52-47 vote (Manchin, D-W VA) voted with Reps.

Manchin also voted with Reps on the confirmation itself, which also passed 52-47.

And now he is the indispensable man. Uh huh.

[Extraneus]

Here’s What Acting AG Matthew Whitaker Thinks of Rosenstein and the Mueller Investigation

Spoiler: not much.

[daddy]

In case anyone missed it, our lone Congressman up here, Republican Don Young, won his 24th consecutive term.

Galvin, Alyse S. DEM 107165
Young, Don REP 126655

Frightening to think that anyone from any State having lived in DC for 46 years wants to go back for another 2 years.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Well I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m happy as a clam today. Dems having the House is going to be insignificant I believe.

[jjm]

Is this not a perfect example of what kind of senator this man's going to be!

https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1060296443611598848

"I want to thank Jeff Sessions for his service to our country as Attorney General. Under Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, it is imperative that the important work of the Justice Department continues, and that the Mueller investigation proceeds to its conclusion unimpeded."

[Extraneus]

Judicial Watch Statement on Resignation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions

I hope transparency and rooting out corruption and abuse becomes the focus of any new Attorney General. President Trump has been terribly victimized by Justice Department and FBI corruption. The Justice Department was a black hole in terms of transparency. It covered up institutional misconduct and, unbelievably, went out of its way to defend misconduct by Hillary Clinton and other Obama administration officials.

Now that President Trump has removed AG Sessions and appointed Mr. Whitaker as Acting Attorney General, I hope the new DOJ leadership ends the abusive Mueller investigation and finally does a serious prosecution of Clinton’s email crimes and other misconduct.

[daddy]

Nice to see that when some caller suggests Trey Gowdy for Atty General Howie Carr replies "No." Howie says he is suspicious of Gowdy actually being a Swamp Creature.

Howie is unimpressed with Trey's track record in actually getting anything done, especially in regards to the Benghazi Hearings. I suspect that is the dominant JOM view as well---puts on a great show but follow up is generally non-existent, and then he sometimes turns Paul Ryanesque in some of his TV appearances.

[Porchlight]

Yes, TLG, Dems are not happy today.

If you want an example, here is some salt mined from reddit/politics after the Sessions resignation was announced:

https://i.redd.it/855f655y9zw11.png

You need the full size photo to read it - or zoom in.

[Old timer.]

Ackk, must be Tom.

Wish he could lighten up.

[Pick a name, stick with it, and we'll see.
I'm not spending a lot of time trying to psyco-analyze the very few people (or only person) who post under a new name every three minutes. Out they go. - TM]

[maryrose]

Ext:
I agree completely with the Judicial Watch statement.
TLG:
I feel optimistic today as well.
Sorry about Scott Walker but Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesots have thrown away a wonderful chance to improve their states.

[henry]

Hi Kim.

[maryrose]

Trey Gowdy says Sessions has been a dead man walking for months now.

[daddy]

Now Trey Gowdy makes me a liar by going on with Brett Baire and calling for a second Special Counsel to go after the origins of the Russia Investigation.

[Miss Marple]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/07/05/reasonable-indict/86731608/

In USA Today in 2016, Matthew Whitaker says he would indict Hillary.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

Somehow Kim is instantaneously recognizable.

[James D.]

jjm @ 5:59

wow. Mitt's an a-hole from literally his first minute as a Senator-elect.

I suppose it's not much of a surprise, but still...

[jimmyk on iPhone]

The only disappointment in the presser is Trump’s anointing of Pence as his running mate. I like Pence, but I don’t think he’s the guy to care the torch.

[maryrose]

Nelson filed for a recount in Florida.

[MJW]

TM: Since people ask: Sessions was filibustered but under post-nuclear apocalypse rules, so Republicans invoked cloture with a 52-47 vote (Manchin, D-W VA) voted with Reps.

Well, technically the filibuster still exists for presidential nominees, but a filibuster that can be ended by the vote of a simple majority is a filibuster in name only.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

carry the torch

[MJW]

Mitt's an a-hole from literally his first minute as a Senator-elect.

Which is why getting a few spare Republican votes in the senate was such a sweet victory.

[Barbara]

Looks like Uncle Mitt is going to occupy the John McCain seat in the Senate. AH in residence.

[Extraneus]

Trump should slap Mitt down right away.

[Tom R]

CH @ 3:43

Jack Straw seems like a pretty smart guy. Glad to see he confirmed the point I made last week as to why Sessions was forced to recuse himself. I wonder if all the people here who are glad Sessions is gone understood he did the legally proper thing? That's the main reason I always believed there was some kind of 4D Chess/kabuki theater going on. Knowing that Sessions did the legally proper thing to recuse himself, Trump's (who makes a big deal about rule of law) criticism of Sessions for strictly adhering to the rule of law always came across to me as an act.

BTW I was super busy at work today. I didn't even find out about Sessions until my wife called me a couple of minutes ago and told me about it. I don't like it but if Trump wants someone else then I will support whoever he picks as a replacement.

[MJW]

Good to see old 'redacted' MJW. Bet he's seen Lewis's stuff.

Nic Lewis on WUWT? Yes, I just got through reading that interesting article.

Nice to see you, Kim.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

Porch. Those comments are hilarious and I enjoyed reading everyone.
I did break my pledge about Fox being dead to me but I had to turn it on when my son called me and said Sessions resigned. Feeling really good about Whitaker too. Pretty confident that he is not a deep stater. All in all a good day😀. And it’s not over yet

[Sandy Daze]

jimmyk...

Seems appropriate, and timely, given your comment RE carrying the torch...

In Flanders Fields

John McCrae, 1872 - 1918

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place, and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the dead; short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe!
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high!
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

MAGA

[Tom Maguire]

... but a filibuster that can be ended by the vote of a simple majority is a filibuster in name only.

It becomes one more step in the Senate procedural delays. After the cloture vote debate still goes on for like, 30 hours.

No big deal for Sessions in February but that sort of delay had everyone staring at the clock and calendar during the Kavanaugh drama wondering when McConnell would let everyone go home and campaign.

Could be even more of a problem in the lame duck. Well, except McConnell knows every rule ion the book and makes up new ones as needed.

[Eye Doctor .]

Tommy boy

Sessions recusal had nothing to do with the rule of law, jackass!

To appoint a special counsel, you must by law state a crime!

[Dave Seville]

I think TM just shot kim, and ironically it was kim's post in which he said his best stuff disappears into the ether. :)

[Porchlight]

Looks like Uncle Mitt is going to occupy the John McCain seat in the Senate. AH in residence.

Sadly I think that was always the plan. I had hoped for a couple more seats to minimize his leverage.

Still, it ain't McCain's Senate any longer. Hopefully Lindsey 2.0 (can I possibly be typing this) will set him straight.

[Eye Doctor .]

Clearly Tommy boy has an agenda

[Miss Marple]

New statement from Acting AG Whitaker pic.twitter.com/RP4WviP0pe

— Laura Jarrett (@LauraAJarrett) November 7, 2018

Statement at the link.

[Extraneus]

Whitaker's Twitter page is still up.

https://twitter.com/mattwhitaker46?lang=en

Here's a pic in case it gets changed soon.

(Click to open pic.)

[Porchlight]

Yay, TLG. I'm glad you liked the salt. It's not such a bad day. I've been busy at work and am still running on little sleep and a slight hangover.

I will miss the sleepy elf but I hope everyone is happier with the new arrangement including the elf himself.

[Porchlight]

Okay, drive time. Hope to catch up with y'all later.

I forgot to count the Beto signs in the 'hood this morning to see how many have been taken down tonight, lol.

[Miss Marple]

https://twitter.com/jamestaranto/status/1060269070090731531

Nadler on Sessions before and after the election.

[Eye Doctor .]

Tommy boy

Do you STILL think Mueller is working with Trump to take down the Deep State?

[Captain Hate]

Tom,

There isn't unanimity on "our side" regarding the necessity of Sessions recusal including Mark Levin, who knows a few things about legal matters, believing he wasn't obligated to do so. Like most legal issues, it can be argued on both sides.

[Extraneus]

You should probably use one name for a while, kim. TM is deleting troll comments and it's probably not easy to distinguish between his and yours just from the name below the post, which is all we use to killfile him.

[Extraneus]

The troll's comments, I mean.

[Eye Doctor .]

The recusal was a set up. It's that simple!

[daddy]

I wonder if all the people here who are glad Sessions is gone understood he did the legally proper thing?

I do not know if Sessions did the legally proper thing in recusing himself since I don't know all the facts, but I do know that if Sessions knew he was going to recuse himself then the "proper", not the Legal, but the "proper" thing to do was to notify his boss in advance that he was going to recuse himself. That would have saved this Nation and this President one hell of a lot of heartache.

Also worth remembering that General McClellan as far as I know did the legally proper thing as Lincoln's Commanding General, up until the time Abe fired him and replaced him with Grant.

...if Trump wants someone else then I will support whoever he picks as a replacement.

Depends on who he nominates, but hopefully I can say "Me Too."

[Dave Seville]

Great googly moogly;
Joy Behar blames gerrymandering for GOP Senate win.
Dumb as a plank.

[Porchlight]

Btw, one more - my own personal Sessions theory is best expressed in this T_D comment:

Remember how 'disinformation' was used? Trump publically outed Sessions, while the (others) said trust him (Stealth Jeff). This was to throw the shills on the other side off. It worked. Now Trump can clean house with a real AG- he has a MAGA Senate now- and the house can't do anything about it. Win/win.

:)

[Jack is Back!]

daddy,

Chris Christie of New Joisy. A true had been in the fairest sense.

Tight ends have a way of being unrecognized until it their time to save the game. Ask any Pats fan. Also, I am too familar with that position, and my dentist can prove it.

Decided that I can't let a POS from Cleoville drive me away but I would like a solution. It makes the website look like LGF at times.

[maryrose]

TomR:
You said you always believed in 4D and kabuki.
Do you still believe it?

[Extraneus]

Sessions should have resigned a long time ago. Trump basically begged him to do so, complaining and insulting him in tweets, yet Sessions insisted on bucking Trump and hanging in, all the while allowing the whole Mueller fiasco to continue.

We now know that this wasn't kabuki. It was dishonorable on Sessions' part. He could have resigned with his honor intact, yet chose not to do so.

[Barbara]

In Flanders Fields, lovely poem.😢

Thanks, Sandy Daze.

[Extraneus]

Sorry you took it that way. Far from my intent, inapt as it might have been. How about adding a few =s so we know it's you and not the douchebag who litters the place wtih random names which could have easily looked like acck (and did)?

[jimmyk on iPhone]

Sandy Daze! Good to see you!

[sbw]

Looks like Uncle Mitt is going to occupy the John McCain seat in the Senate. AH in residence.

Someone tell maryrose.

[derwill]

If y’all didn’t read that train interview of Nadler’s you need to do so. He’s also dumb as a plank. Good grief with dementia-inflicted Pelosi, mad Maxine and this Nadler boob running the House, it’s going to be an “interesting “ two years.

[Captain Hate]

Yes, Ext, in retrospect he was the wrong man for the job particularly in not rooting out corruption within his department. Maybe being in the Senate erodes the attitudes that Beasts saw years ago.

Although he was early to jump on the DJT Express. Too bad for all involved.

[Eye Doctor .]

Maryrose, Mitt is taking over AH in residence role

[Barbara]

It was dishonorable on Sessions' part. He could have resigned with his honor intact, yet chose not to do so.

Extraneus,

Well said. I've always thought that Cabinet Secretaries should serve at the pleasure of the President. Sessions view was that his loyalty was to protect an obviously corrupt DOJ. He stubbornly held on to this point of view and his job in total disregard for the damage that an ineffective Attorney General was doing to the country.

[maryrose]

SBW:
Don’t bring me into it as I have remained silent given the animus here for Mitt Romney.
Prejudging people is not my style.
I also ignore the Ryan comments because it is pointless on this particular blog.

[henry]

Sarah Carter on declassification, Trump dangling that carrot.

https://twitter.com/saracarterdc/status/1060290901719871488?s=21

[Jack is Back!]

Ex,

That is over 200lbs on that barbell. I should know. I have the same weights, well actually, I have them and Frederick uses them:) But then our friend Armitage was also a weightlifter:)

I think he may be a hard ass to wipe off the board. But let the Dems try it. His Hawkeye teams were pretty good back in the day. But then Grassely is his senator and sponsor so its a done deal if Trump nominates him.

[mockmook]

As annoying as the Dems winning the House is, did everyone take the opportunity to point at TomR and laugh?

[He guaranteed that Trump had the House all sewn up]

Predictions are fine, but don't adorn your predictions with 4-D Chess BS when you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

[Eye Doctor .]

Tommy boy has an agenda

[Sandy Daze]

Mitt R & Paul R.

Boy, was I ever naive. Yet, they were 'our team'... and I was one of their army, knocking on at least a thousand doors in the VaBch vicinity, asking for votes on their behalf.

These are perhaps the last two men I'd ever want beside me, in a firefight, sharing a foxhole.

LOSERS...both. And, even much worse than that...

~~~

I'm not tired of winning.

I will not break faith with those that have gone before...

I will help carry the torch.

M A G A

[Extraneus]

Looks like 225, Jack. Those are probably 45s, plus the bar.

[derwill]

Btw, someone needs to tell Nadler that Supreme Court justices can only be impeached for alleged crimes committed after they are sworn in. And, like the presidency, it takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict in any event. And should it get that far which it can’t because it’s illegal, DiFi and little Chrissy and her co-hort in crime might like to know that what happens in the Senate is a trial, which means warrants and discovery and nasty little surprises like that.

So all in all a real dumb move on Nadler’s part and the day is young.

[Eye Doctor .]

Tommy boy

Is that Podesta indictment coming any day now?

[daddy]

Big fun listening to Local Conservative Talk Radio. Callers and host really happy with the overall Election results in the State, and relatively happy with the national results. Almost every caller specifically mentions Lisa Murkowski and how important it was us picking up 3 extra Repub Senators, because it diminishes her power to screw with Trump. She is hated. Few callers are wondering why she just dosn't go ahead and change her affiliation to Dem. Host wonders the same thing.

[Jack is Back!]

We went to Flander's Fields this summer on our trip to Belgium. I tell Mrs. JiB, I cannot stand to hang around the house. So, we did Ypres or Ieper (in Flemish). Very sobering. Frederick walked the Yorkshire trench. Came out knowing war can be more than hell, if even that is possible.

Thanks Sandy for the reminder. In England they start the Poppy on November 1 leading up to Armistice day, which we celebrate as Veteran's Day. But there Armistice Day is their Memorial Day, to recognize the fallen.

On this Veteran's Day please buy a poppy from your vet standing outside the Publix, Walmart, or wherever and wear it proudly. Too many have signed up for the honor to serve you, and me.

[Clarice Feldman]

rofl--blast from the past:https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/opinion/jeff-sessions-as-attorney-general-an-insult-to-justice.html

[lyle]

Per Insty, Fat Boy Jerry “No Nads” Nadler is already scheming up plans for impeaching You Know Who and Kavanaugh. Go for it, asshole.

[daddy]

ED Rollins on with Lou Dobbs says that Beto O'Rourke spent $85 Million against Ted Cruz's $35 Million. I did not know the split in cash was so enormous.

Ed Rollins calls for Paul Ryan to quit the Speakership immediately instead of hanging on throughout the lame duck session. No love lost as usual for Paul Ryan from Ed and Lou, and Ed wants him replaced ASAP because he says there are some things Trump needs pushed through before the Dem's pick up the gavel.

[boatbuilder]

That Molly Hemingway piece is both laugh-out-loud funny and scary. Yikes!

What kind of fool thinks like that, and worse, lets reporters listen to him while he blathers about it? At least Chucky Schumer is somewhat clever and devious. Nadler is a frikken buffoon.

[Jack is Back!]

Now, Clarice, I am sure you have heard of the old saw, "what goes around, comes around again." He got caught in it.