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November 18, 2018

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boris

Good morning JOM.

Old Lurker

Morning Boris.

Buford Gooch

Good morning, folks.

Texas Liberty Gal

Morning Boris and OL. Reading this article makes me want to visit Gettysburg a 3rd time.

boatbuilder

I suggest opening the "very interesting piece" link to the Salena Zito Examiner article is a separate window. You can't get back to JOM once you click.

henry

NYT, always wrong and never in doubt.

boatbuilder

Some things never change, TM. The NYT/MSM goes all in for the wordy patricians (including the Anglophile Beecher, of course) and treats the low-born yokel Lincoln as trash to be ignored and/or mocked.

Extraneus

Michelle Obama’s Memoir Sells 725,000 Copies on First Day

Who are these strange alien beings?

James D.

Good morning all!

henry

Toured Gettysburg as a kid. My grandfather served as tour guide, as the Civil War was a main study at West Point when he was there. Unfortunately, Ike wasn’t feeling well so my brothers and I got stuck at the hotel when the adults visited grandfather’s old classmate.

MissMarple2

https://www.vulture.com/2018/11/one-way-wolf-blitzer-freaky-friday-jared-neumark-comedy-video.html?utm_campaign=vulture&utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw

The entire short is on here. I have watched 2 minutes and it is pretty amusing.

The Infamous Ignatz

--I don't understand all the fuss.--

Likewise.
If I'm understanding things correctly there seems to be some concern the benighted Ben has disguised himself as a good sized building in Tracy Carlifornia for a reason that eludes me.

Texas Liberty Gal

I’m skeptical the Dems will actually pull the Impeachment bullet. #backfire

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/18/trump-impeachment-republicans-battle-defend-999812

Jack is Back!

Why am I getting a PP advert on the sidebar?

Your Latin Phrase of the Day:

Magis te quam oculos amo meos.

MissMarple2

I am getting a Verizon ad. LOL!

MissMarple2

Phone update: Phone is out of the freezer and I started charging. Keep your fingers crossed!

Extraneus

Jemele Hill Stands by Claim That Trump Is a ‘White Supremacist’ During ‘Late Show’ Appearance

She's a black racist.

rse

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/stacey-abrams-wont-call-brian-kemp-the-legitimate-victor-of-georgias-governor-race

Oh. Joy.

The Infamous Ignatz

From clarice's pieces;
--Treat other family members who hold different policy views than you respectfully as individuals who are not haters or morons, just people with different ideas.--

Even if they're hateful morons?

MissMarple2

We simply do not discuss politics at family gatherings. Period. This has been the case since my GOP grandparents held it and my democrat dad attended.

Otherwise, I would have to comment that while my sister and I got to see President Trump for free, my democrat sister PAID quite a bit of money to go see Michelle Obama.

Old Lurker

My EXACT question Iggy.

Texas Liberty Gal

MM. My only sister will say she agrees no politics at family gatherings but she can’t help herself. As a result the only family gatherings we have are weddings and funerals

The Infamous Ignatz

The problem is, it is the different ideas that are the problem. You can treat them as respectfully as possible and unless you agree with them they will project their hateful moronosity on to you.

They are, by and large, exactly what they claim to hate [greedy, thoughtless, kinda dumb racists] and the people they claim superiority to are, by and large, none of those things.

Old Lurker

How to destroy a brand in record time:

"Pope Francis on Sunday lamented that "the wealthy few" enjoy what, "in justice, belongs to all" and said Christians cannot remain indifferent to the growing cries of the exploited and the indigent, including migrants."

And Catholics are down with this?

Okey Doke. Obama promised to transform my country (and did more so than we care to admit), and now this Pope wants to complete the process.

And the Church wonders where are all the Peeps?

clarice

Good morning JOM!!www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/11/then_they_came_for_the_white_women.html

MissMarple2

Old Lurker,

I was a convert under Benedict. I now have no church. It's very sad.

henry

Aloha Clarice! Enjoyed pieces this morning,

Jack is Back!

Clarice,

How's the surf?

Great Pieces.

pagar

Great Pieces, Clarice! Enjoy the Wolverine and all your family.

Old Lurker

MM, I went with my wife to our (42 years same pew) Episcopal church this morning and privately had exactly that same thought.

Jack is Back!

Ever since the Bishop shut down Frederick's and miss led our committe formed to save it, I have not been to mass. Funny thing is that our pastor hasn't even asked me why he doesn't see me anymore.

MissMarple2

I see on Twitter that apparently the Cleveland Browns have mentioned the possibility of hiring Condoleeza Rice as head coach.

Words fail me.

The Infamous Ignatz

The body of His followers makes up the church of Christ and the Kingdom of God is righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, so the believer is never without a church. :)
If the institution you considered the church has left you there are thousands of congregations who have not left Him.

MissMarple2

For those who followed Imperator Rex on Twitter, he's back as @MAGAREX

Narciso79

Yes the church isn't a building it's a community as jesus stated in Matthew 24,
There is a place for social justice at an individual level, but not what bergoglio has put forth but you know 2 timothy.

Captain Hate

I see on Twitter that apparently the Cleveland Browns have mentioned the possibility of hiring Condoleeza Rice as head coach.

Just when you think they're tapped out on stupid things to do...

MissMarple2

Correction!

I should have typed @MAGAREX1

mockmook

From the previous thread:

    The suggestion was 20 minutes if memory serves.

    Posted by: Buckeye | November 18, 2018 at 08:42 AM

Perhaps Buckeye needs to put his head in the freezer for 20 minutes to recover his memory? :)

The Infamous Ignatz

Great article by the always sensible Willis Eschenbach at Watts Up With That;
The Picasso Problem.
Well worth reading.

lurkersusie

Another former President slush fund.

The Barack Obama Foundation fund grows

https://nypost.com/2018/11/17/the-barack-obama-foundation-has-seen-its-contributions-soar/

Old Lurker

I know MM, Jack and I probably all know that there are other congregations and other ways to maintain our faith in the main point...but here on our political blog of friends it is fair to point out that the loss of what used to be be one of the main legs of the stool supporting the "way of life" that had been passed from generation to generation has, along with our schools and colleges, vanished right before our eyes.

Manuel Transmission

Henry,

I stood about six feet away from Ike in the fall of ‘52. He and Mamie were doing a whistle stop tour through MT and my dad drove us to Livingston to see them. They stood on the rear vestibule of an old business car to give his speech. We were right under them standing on the track. My sis got a flower from Mamie’s bouquet and pressed it into a book.

Saw Ike once again 3-4 yrs later when he came out to commemorate the finishing of the McNary dam on the Columbia.

Manuel Transmission

MM,

If your phone doesn’t almost immediately show charging on the display, don’t ignore the ‘scoop the lint of of its bellybutton’ step. It takes only the tiniest bit of fuzz in the charging socket to keep from making good electrical contact.

jimmyk

“I stood about six feet away from Ike in the fall of ‘52.”

MT, my dad stood right next to Ike in the men’s room at the Officers Club in London, probably 1944.

The Infamous Ignatz

--but here on our political blog of friends it is fair to point out that the loss of what used to be be one of the main legs of the stool supporting the "way of life" that had been passed from generation to generation has, along with our schools and colleges, vanished right before our eyes--

I would say it hasn't vanished; it's changed forms. And I would say the decline of mainline churches is partly a reflection of the culture, maybe even more than a cause.
I understand the sense of loss I think but the true core of the church and the only one that matters is impossible to lose; seek and ye shall find.

And now? Off to church. :)

The Infamous Ignatz

Before I go I've had to clean the lint out of my bellybutton phone charging port several times. I use a pin, delicately. It often gets packed in there in my pocket where I carry my phone.

BeenThereDoneThat

test

matt - deplore me if you must

The LA Times gave Trump a tiny mention of his visits to the burn areas and the victims and families of the Thousand Oaks murders.

The press is doubling down now. I expect them to assault the Electoral College and even the Senate next. They really do want mob rule.

rich

>>>test

Posted by: BeenThereDoneThat | November 18, 2018 at 12:42 PM<<<

passed. glad you made it in.

BeenThereDoneThat

I just had to pop in to totally agree with Iggy---the Church IS still 'out here'. Seek and ye shall find.

Manuel Transmission

Re the CA fires, my buddy posted this this morning:

As you know, (my son’s) house is in the middle of the (Malibu) burn area and badly damaged. The “Authorities” clamped down yesterday and would not allow residents back to their houses. Sometimes, with proper ID, they’ll let you walk in. Yesterday they shut access down tight, no doubt it was because Newsom, Brown & Trump were visiting. By in large, residents had to fight the fires themselves, and if you wanted to secure what little you have left they prevented you. The “authorities” have not been helpful, and have restricted or denied access; they are an obstruction to overcome. Mind you, the fire was 9 days ago, and likely caused by PG&E, if not homeless illegals. Big brother, state government, gets a big F in performance. Brown and Newsom should hang their heads in shame. If you watched the unfiltered briefings on the internet yesterday you saw both of them sucking-up to Trump. These obsequious, milk toast SOBs......:.only visited the affected areas today, and only because Trump was coming. Just watch, by the middle of next week they will blame him for the fires.
boatbuilder


Michelle Obama’s Memoir Sells 725,000 Copies on First Day

Who are these strange alien beings?

My guess is that most of them are librarians, spending your tax money or that of the university, college or community college they work for. Daddy pointed out that 4 brand spankin'* new copies of Stormy Daniels' magnum opus were ostentatiously displayed at his local library last week. I seriously wonder how many people actually pay $35 or whatever they charge for these politicians' and quasi-celebrities' doorstops, no matter how much they like the subject. The other chunk would be liberal gift-givers--give it to someone who you think will be edified and improved by it, then borrow it so you can read it.

On the other hand, as MM has pointed out, there are people who pay $100 to hear Michelle Obama, Hillary and other such celestial beings talk, so I could be wrong.

*OK, maybe a poor word choice. But I left it in anyway.

Old Lurker

Iggy, you are missing my point, and so is BTDT.

Sure it is out there and seek and we might find it.

I would say that one can still seek and find a classic liberal education in our elite colleges too. But the "seekin" takes a whole lot more "seekin" and the "findin" is a whole lot harder that it should be. In a Bell Curve population, the portion of the population that will (even bother to) seek and will find is smaller than ever before. That's how I circle it back to political devolution.

Michael (fpa P4F) Stop the WitchHunt-Stop the Coup

re: Go to nbcsports.com or on roku and go to the Notre Dame game highlights and watch the Band Halftime show. At the beginning of God Bless America, the camera starts at the end of a trombone slide and then pans back to show the player. That’s WonderGirl!!!
Posted by: cathyf | November 17, 2018 at 11:15 PM

For anyone who wants to see cathyf's WonderGirl . . .

The Notre Dame band video on NBC Sports is here:
https://www.nbcsports.com/video/notre-dame-band-plays-baseball-tunes-honor-playing-yankee-stadium

Wonder Girl is seen at 5:07 - 5:12 of the video (at start of "God Bless America" as per cathyf)

cathyf - Congrats on your daughter being featured. You must be tickled pink to see her highlighted on the video.

rich

Porchlight-

i'm of 2 minds on the fuss. one i can understand it and i can see where some might think it odd (all the way to sinister).

i recall i had a back and forth with henry, of all things about using my card at the gas pump. it had one of those screens and while i'm waiting there, sure enough i got bombarded by ads ... things i had bought previously! (it then went into a overly long-winded direction of using a store discount card and a card to buy groceries and how easily it would be to figure out possible health issues someone might have-diabetes being one of the more obvious)

i would suspect that the odd follower is a bot using a fake profile which is why i had asked about an abuse email or phone number-ask typepad whether the profile is real or fake and if it is in fact fake they can just delete it (but given how shitty this software is they'd probably delete JOM instead). everyone here clicking on it probably supercharged the bot to harvest even more!

MissMarple2

It is true. My sister will buy Michelle's book and put it prominently in her living room.

However, I think most of those copies are purchased by librarians and people like Tom Steyer.

BeenThereDoneThat

My son's mother and father in-law lost their home of many decades in a canyon east of Chico; a friend's two cousins each lost a home in Paradise. CA is my birth state even though our immediate family moved out many decades ago. My fervent prayer is that POTUS and crew have intelligence squared on the people and players who are currently, politically and environmentally, destroying this state for their own selfishly obscene purposes.

Narciso79

Sorry to hear that, been there, what can one say besides that.

MissMarple2

matt,

The news cabal really is our enemy. The ONLy way to break this is to prove that they have been taking money under the table to trash Trump and promote people like Kamala Harris and such.

I am positive they have been doing so. Otherwise the entire CNN corporate heads and staff would have been let go long ago.

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
44m44 minutes ago

I will be interviewed by Chris Wallace on @FoxNews at 2:00 P.M. and 7:00 P.M. Enjoy!

rich

Posted by: boatbuilder | November 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM

bulk purchases by "foundations" and activist groups ... i had mentioned before that before the 2008 election the Obama campaign he had people organizing college campuses. They were giving away his book and other merch and were using pizza and soda.

boatbuilder

MM--I also think that there is a substantial cohort of wealthy liberals/LIV's for whom having the latest political "bestseller" on the coffee table is a status/virtue-signalling thing.

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
14m14 minutes ago

So funny to see little Adam Schitt (D-CA) talking about the fact that Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker was not approved by the Senate, but not mentioning the fact that Bob Mueller (who is highly conflicted) was not approved by the Senate!


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Read this carefully. I am sure this will cause the next pearl-clutching outrage.

boatbuilder

MM--is the typo in the original? HA!

peter

MT, when I was six, my mother was a huge JFK fan. I went to a rally he was holding in Commack, NY, outside the arena, and stood about five feet from the podium. There really was very little security.

Two years later, I met Nixon, who was campaigning with Nelson Rockefeller in Bellerose, NY. Nelson kissed my baby sister, something politicians used to do.

I just recently learned that the Rockefellers were of German derivation, their last name likely having been changed from Roggenfelder, meaning "rye farmer."

henry

Perfect Miss M!

peter

The typo is in the original.

Manuel Transmission

jimmyk, heh. :-) touché!

Texas Liberty Gal

Adam Shitt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

anonamom


I was a convert under Benedict. I now have no church. It's very sad.

Posted by: MissMarple2

Boy, did you get what the Catholic Church is wrong, MM.

I transiently shared that feeling when the pedophile crisis first came to light back in the day, but the Holy Spirit hit me upside the head while I was doing dishes one night, so I'm going slap you across the face here:

Drop the "poor me" crap, and go to church---YOU are the church, not any priest, any bishop, or any pope.

You don't have to put any money in that collection basket, you don't even need to sit through any sermon if the message being relayed is Karl Marx's, not Jesus Christ's---but stop looking for someone else to do the heavy lifting for you.

Be part of the solution if you see a problem. Read Benedict and John Paul and Paul VI, partake of Mass and the sacraments, find people to help and some to help you in that parish.

You BE the Church Christ established.

Michael (fpa P4F) Stop the WitchHunt-Stop the Coup

Boy, the Schiff is going to hit the fan over that one!


Texas Liberty Gal

MM

https://local.yahoo.com/info-15900888-st-peter-lutheran-church-indianapolis

Just a suggestion if you are unhappy with Catholic Churches in your area

Account Deleted

"Sure it is out there and seek and we might find it."

The following riff takes off on how the previous wording strikes me as a vulnerable child of the Great Mystery, Tunkashila, GrandFather, God Almighty, and imperfect follower of the Word Made Flesh.

(I get your point, OL. Well said!)

It isn't "out there" in any sense as *IT* isn't an ordinary consumable, by way of the example, a quality liberal education.

For me "seeking" out there is an incorrect mission and inconsistent with my Purpose for being here (to be in service to others by revealing mysteries).

the more i demonstrate commitment to said purpose the more i am devoted to exploring my own heart/soul for answers. and, when another individual has ears to listen, i share.

but the key to this purpose? "Truth is within."

yes, one needs the reflection upon the outside world. one cannot just breathe in all the time.

but many people become frustrated by the opposite "only breathing out."

without reflection, truth is unattainable. but so are the other six aspects of the "Divine": Love, Life, Principle, Intelligence, Spirit, and Soul.

consumables have been politicized. there are specific practices which cannot. being within the Seven Aspects of the Great Mystery cannot be politicized nor "persecuted." The Christ demonstrated.

the "church" of Jesus the Christ was built upon "the rock" that is inside all of us--- our hearts, the metaphor for the "soul", the connector to The Spirit which remained behind.

therefore, the church is within.

Simon Peter was a man of great heart and a wealth of human contradictions. thus, i give you today's Roman Catholic Church--- consistent with the patterns of organized "temples" since the days of Solomon.

those who seek comfort in the material culture of the Roman Catholic Church will experience limitations and distractions.

on Sundays, when i want to feed my reflective soul, it is to sit quietly during the Consecration of the Sacrament, after having endured the usually warped interpretations of the Old Testament and the New, and the dispensation.

Whether sheltered in a lodge under a bearskin on a mountainside communing without human interference with The Great Mystery, or sitting quietly in wait for the Consecration and dispensation---- it is the same inside job.

i do such things in order for The Great I AM to recognize me his son by recognizing The Great I AM, such as IT is; I AM the one who desires to be pleasing to him by doing my best to LOVE and follow his Great Law of Cause and Effect.

i can get along well without the specific brand of fellowship offered here in the local parishes. fellowship exists all around me. IT is the Walk, or the Way.

That is an inside job with outward demonstration of the Seven Aspects (the Seven Directions we observe in the sweat lodge prayer ceremony).

That's all.

Have a great Sun-day.

Kev

Narciso79

True, but there must a community for fellowship its stated in acts, resources for same, and someone to preach thr message and the Word must be clear.

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MM:

speaking of popes... my favorite was my first Pope Paul XXIII (Angelo Guiseppe Roncalli). he's referred to as an accidental saint. no surprise-- he was Franciscan.

got loads of problemas with Jezz-u-it(s). Pope Paul was pre-Vatican II,the last before that perversion hit the bricks.

Account Deleted

duh SORRY: POPE JOHN XXIII!!!!

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the clearest preacher of the word wasn't a priest: Emmett Fox.

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the biggest obstacle to any Roman Catholic attempt at fellowship is PRIDE, which blinds most in a way of creating an US vs THEM type of snobbery i find common in every parish i've ever haunted.

gives me lots of opps not to judge etc---- but it definitely doesn't allow them to elevate their eyes, go forth, and to sin no more.

MissMarple2

anonamom,

Your point is taken. I will figure out what to do on my own.

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
24m24 minutes ago

The Mayor of Tijuana, Mexico, just stated that “the City is ill-prepared to handle this many migrants, the backlog could last 6 months.” Likewise, the U.S. is ill-prepared for this invasion, and will not stand for it. They are causing crime and big problems in Mexico. Go home!

Michael (fpa P4F) Stop the WitchHunt-Stop the Coup

BTDT - Good to see you back here - Hope you de-lurk and stick around.

Sorry to hear of your extended family's losses in connection to the fire and devastation in and around Paradise/Chico.

Were you in UT last I merembered?


James D.

The press is doubling down now. I expect them to assault the Electoral College and even the Senate next. They really do want mob rule.

Because they are ignorant, uneducated, illiterate, spoiled children who have no understanding at all of history or of human nature despite the hundreds of thousands of dollars their parents (and us taxpayers via gov’t subsidized loans) spent on their schooling.

If they understood ANYTHING of life beyond the infantile temper tantrums they’ve clearly never grown out of, they’d know that the mob ALWAYS turns on the very people who ginned it up. Inevitably.

BeenThereDoneThat

Thank you, OL, thank you, Kev, anonamom and all. Much food for thought today!

BeenThereDoneThat

Thank you, Michael--yes, UT, the launching pad of the new Senate career of you know who. Ugh, had to vote for him and pray for the best..

Frau Edith Steingehirn

KKid sez: POPE JOHN XXIII is his favorite.

I was very fond of him, too. He called himself "a strong fork." I felt a kinship there.

Porchlight

rich,

Like you said, the followers are just bots, I think. No special dangers there.

I'm not saying the internet isn't full of privacy risks. I'm just saying TypePad registration doesn't carry any more risk than your average internet activity and likely less since it doesn't involve money changing hands and doesn't require you to disclose or confirm your identity.

Your smartphone is likely more dangerous to your privacy than TypePad.

Jack is Back!

Great lunch today at Sip 'n Soda with tonto and Harry.

sbwaters

Read Iggy’s 12:27 -- The Picasso Problem.

The answer is only as good as the question -- or, "the world should never again put a bunch of United Nations pluted bloatocrats in charge of anything to do with science."

MissMarple2


Bill Mitchell
‏Verified account @mitchellvii
Nov 15

I am going to say it.

The Democrat House Majority is FAKE. In race after race, Democrats who were losing on ED surged into the lead with completely out of proportion "late" votes in their favor.

We have just witnessed MASSIVE VOTE FRAUD. The Democrat Majority is ILLEGITIMATE.

rse

Apparently Sen bill nelson has called rick scott to congratulate him on winning the Fla senate seat.

anonamom

Michael, thanks for posting the link to the ND band and tip re: time to find Wondergirl.
I was too lazy to find it this morning when I was doing catch up.
So fun to see someone's baby in RL.

rich

>>>Ocasio-Cortez’s problem actually isn’t Pelosi, it’s math, science and logic, the patriarchal three that wrecks all bright ideas like hers.<<<

finally got to piece's this afternoon. classic. gonna steal that for future use.

sbwaters

Asked my wife what she thought about the Browns interest in Condi Rice as head coach.

She replied, “I’m not sure she knows enough about X’s and O’s. She would probably be a better fit as general manager.

Gotta love that girl!

Porchlight

The_Donald moderators work fast - they already came up with a tag.

Manuel Transmission

Attention all you doityourselfers, particularly Hoyden, this will get your attention.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=blVmHo_8bmA

BTW she is now a PhD student at MIT.

D

Agree with Anonamom wrt the Church.
We are the living breathing part of it!
Rick Scott is the new Senator from Florida!
Have a hard time logging in.
Will lurk.
Frau :
Congrats on your anniversary.

Texas Liberty Gal

I love ❤️ this

‪Local Charlotte Church Released A Christmas Video That’s Going Viral With Over 4 Million Views https://www.charlottestories.com/local-charlotte-church-released-christmas-video-thats-going-viral-4-million-views/ via @cltstories ‬

Gentlejim

Trump’s Twitter “typo” is fantastic.

Yesterday’s Twitter video of the squirrel testing the dog reminded me of Trump and the MFM. Didn’t hurt that the squirrel was orange. Here’s the link: https://mobile.twitter.com/INTEGRITY_4U/status/1063564227372306432

Pin,
Yes, those are my mitts on the Stanley Cup. That was Sept 2015. It is surprisingly light. NHL staff will not allow hoisting the Cup overhead.

Extraneus

Jerry Brown: ‘In Less Than 5 Years’ Even the Worst Climate Change Skeptics ‘Are Going to Be Believers’

Nobody is skeptical of "climate change." Everyone knows it changes all the time and always has.

Rocco

Our parish administrator recently asked our congregation that in addition to our weekly offering, we also help physically maintaining the property. I had remained silent up til then but could no longer.

We can request predated envelopes for the collection plate offerings and after much consideration, I placed the check with a note inside the envelope notifying the treasurer that my weekly offering would now be cut in half because I will no longer pay for lawsuits that these creeps caused. I haven't heard a peep yet.

I ain't throwing the baby out with the bathwater and in the end we know how it turns out, the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail.

I'm with Anonomom, pray for us!

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