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December 07, 2018

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Account Deleted

"This neighbor is a local gov worker with Obama sticker on car."

There you go, Jim. Serve her up some fresh dog tacos and a pitcher of margaritas.

MissMarple2

On asset forfeiture:

I am all in favor of it IF the money comes from drugs or human trafficking. That money cannot be returned to its source.

However, I believe that the targets have to be proven guilty.

I am NOT in favor of asset forfeiture before a guilty verdict is returned. I also am NOT in favor of asset forfeiture for violating federal regulations, like an oil spill or something like that.

henry

Any property seizure needs to pass through the courts and be subject to due process protections of the Constitution. Sessions wasn't excited about that bit.

Jane

I hope he's a great choice.

MissMarple2

Today, we honor those who perished 77 years ago at Pearl Harbor, and we salute every veteran who served in World War II over the 4 years that followed that horrific attack. God Bless America! https://t.co/zbu4NLVr4G pic.twitter.com/5hbLDrqg40

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 7, 2018

Photo at the link.

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2h2 hours ago

We will be doing a major Counter Report to the Mueller Report. This should never again be allowed to happen to a future President of the United States!

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
59m59 minutes ago

I am pleased to announce that Heather Nauert, Spokeswoman for the United States Department of State, will be nominated to serve as United Nations Ambassador. I want to congratulate Heather, and thank Ambassador Nikki Haley for her great service to our Country!

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
58m58 minutes ago

I am pleased to announce that I will be nominating The Honorable William P. Barr for the position of Attorney General of the United States. As the former AG for George H.W. Bush....

....and one of the most highly respected lawyers and legal minds in the Country, he will be a great addition to our team. I look forward to having him join our very successful Administration!

Old Lurker

MM, then you are not talking about asset forfeiture. What you are OK with is simply a fine with directed restitution after being convicted of a crime.

None of us have a problem with that.

Account Deleted

"Nonsense. Ordinary people without straight-A Journalism school credentials can be trained to excel in the craft of newspapering."

You missed my point, sbw. We don't publish newspapers. We publish digital trade pubs. Our editors cover the main stories and we use aggregators to sort and distribute relevant news acros 72 industrial verticals.

I know nothing about the newspaper business nor made any claims for it. FWIW :D Trade publications and specialized pubs are not the same baileywick.

My point is, with specialized "mags", which claim to address the essence of a reader cohort in their offerings---whether it be "supply chain" or "kitty cats", the secret to profitable publishing of a digital and print monthly is having "editors" that make strategic decisions and tightly supervise consistent, high-integrity content and/or farm it out to knowledgeable experts.

We aren't talking about high end, big budget mags like "Brides" or "Chicks and Ammo". We're talking publications with lean staffs, no brick and mortar offices, and productive ad sales staff that pays for itself and accounts for a net profit. No loss leaders in the stable.

It's the random "calendar" which seeks to be all things all the time to everybody on a sub list that causes the big fail. We've seen our competitors go down because they lack the editorial team steam that drives specialized content publications. That is not the newspaper model.

Extraneus

he will be a great addition to our team.

That's gonna bother the people who loved the wingman concept a few years ago.

henry

Missouri Senator-elect Josh Hawley, who defeated Democratic incumbent Claire McCaskill last month, is under investigation by the state's secretary of state for using employees and resources from his office in his political campaign.

it's very difficult for an elected state official running for another elected office to keep his campaign separate from his official duties entirely. In this case, there appears to be a conflict. Whether it rises to the level of a crime is the question Ashcroft must answer.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/senator-elect-josh-hawley-being-investigated-by-missouri-secretary-of-state/

MissMarple2

President Trump is speaking at a law enforcement conference in Kansas today. When he got on Marine One he said it was a very important speech. I will be interested in what he has to say.

Tom R

However, I believe that the targets have to be proven guilty.

I am NOT in favor of asset forfeiture before a guilty verdict is returned.

Lets pretend Russia/Putin gave the Clinton Foundation $145 million dollars in exchange for SecState Hillary Clinton's support for the Uranium One deal.

Lets pretend Huber indicts the Clintons for multiple corruption crimes to include anything related to Uranium One.

Do you think the Clinton Foundation should be allowed to keep that $145 million from Russia until they are convicted?

If you don't think the Feds should seize that $145 million donated by Russia until the Clintons are convicted, what if the Clintons decided to donate all $145 million to George Soros' Open Society foundation while their trial was ongoing? If they get convicted, that money is no longer there for the Feds to legally seize.

IMO Trump and Sessions wanted to prevent something similar to the scenario described above when they implemented the civil asset forfeiture policy for Federal crimes.

MissMarple2

No, the Clintons shouldn't get to keep it, but neither should the government until they are found guilty. It should be put in a bank and held until the verdict is read.

henry

If you don't think the Feds should seize that $145 million donated by Russia until the Clintons are convicted,

get a judge to order an asset freeze.

MissMarple2

henry,

THAT is the phrase I was looking for - asset freeze.

Extraneus

I'm pretty sure there's a middle ground, such as freezing assets rather than outright confiscation.

Extraneus

Duh.

Account Deleted

It's government's established pattern of psychomotor behavior to "disappoint."

Kind of like saying "Water is wet", no?

Account Deleted

Accused of a criminal offense by federalies, who decide to freeze the accused's assets, how does the accused pay in order to mount a defense?

And, is the order in that process "freeze then seize" or is a balls out lock-down-as-good-as-gone, at least during the years of criminal proceedings and additional investigations?

henry

hahahaha:

Left Eats Left: Cory Booker Quietly Notes He’s 7% Native American In Jab At Warren

https://www.weaselzippers.us/404866-left-eats-left-cory-booker-quietly-notes-hes-7-native-american-in-jab-at-warren/

Account Deleted

blood quantum is a joke. what's your way of life Spartacus, you know, besides your closet debauchery? wiper.

Account Deleted

Lizzy Warren's quest for the nomination in 2020 appears to be going the way of the finale in a Viking funeral. (is that offensive to Vikings?)

Neo

The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor began at 12:48 PM EST, 77 years ago

Account Deleted

I think i heard the man's name correctly this morning, Dr. Steve Mohr, as he said the jobs numbers aren't the key here in our economy.

"There are 7 million more jobs--unfilled because there are not enough workers to fill them, which is a shorthand calculation meaning *FULL EMPLOYMENT.*"

That's got to count for something, although the Lame Brained Media won't bite on that.

Old Lurker

Kev "how does the accused pay in order to mount a defense?"

Wesley Mouch explained that Feature not a Bug to Hank Reardon in Atlas Shrugged.

True then. True now.

Account Deleted

Tx OL Hope your world is looking up! :D Mine is.

Tom R

I considered the freeze vs seize assets option. According to the Sessions press release, seized assets will be used to fund law enforcement activities.

Civil asset forfeiture takes the material support of the criminals and instead makes it the material support of law enforcement, funding priorities like new vehicles, bulletproof vests, opioid overdose reversal kits, and better training.

The Mueller SC investigation has spent close to $40 million dollars already. In the event of a high profile indictment against an organization like the Clinton Foundation, the case is going to cost the government a lot of money. The Feds can use the seize assets to fund the case instead of taxpayer money. If the defendant is acquitted the Feds can easily give the money back to them.

FYI the corrupt Swamp creatures can pay their legal fees with their own personal money. The Feds can seize the assets of their foundations where they hide most of their wealth.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-soros-transfers-18-billion-to-his-foundation-creating-an-instant-giant-1508252926


henry

while the left natters on about "illegal lame duck laws" in WI, a refresher on the Gov Doyle lame duck session before Walker's inauguration. It features springing a Dem out of jail to vote on the floor, union giveaways, and typical lefty stuff:

http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2018/12/the-forgotten-man/

Old Lurker

Kev, MY world is looking fine, and has been through all my Eeyore episodes.

I do worry about the world for the rest of you all.

henry

seized assets will be used to fund law enforcement activities

the mafia runs on the same basis, just substitutes it's own "law."

James D.

According to the Sessions press release, seized assets will be used to fund law enforcement activities.

Law enforcement should not EVER be self funding.

If there’s a more direct path to corruption and abuse of power, I can’t imagine what it would be.

daddy

Good Morning!

Rush in Hour 1 is saying that Jon Solomon's pet theory is that Mueller knows and has always known that there was no Trump/Russia collusion and that the reason he picked a heavily partisan team of Trump Hating thugs to do the investigation was a bit of self protection, meaning that when Mueller ends the investigation and says there was no Trump/Russia Collusion he can protect himself by saying to the disappointed Left that he intentionally picked these thug investigators because if there was anything to be found they would have found it. (ie: if 15 Trump hating Lawyers couldn't find anything then there must not be anything there.)

jimmyk

From the NYT on Barr:

Mr. Barr has criticized aspects of the Russia investigation, including suggesting that the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, hired too many prosecutors who had donated to Democratic campaigns. Mr. Barr has also defended Mr. Trump’s calls for a new criminal investigation into his defeated 2016 opponent, Hillary Clinton, including over a uranium mining deal the Obama administration approved when she was secretary of state.

The confirmation hearing should be fun.

Neo

BREAKING Cory Booker took a DNA test that revealed he is seven percent Native American.

Old Lurker

Not a single dime should be spent by, or at the direction of, or ordered by under threat of bad things, any agency, department, office of any government, Federal, State or Local that does not first get appropriated, properly and openly, by the legislature and agreed to by the executive in the usual course of running that government.

Every single dime ever taken from a citizen or business should only be taken as a result of full due process, and then all assets thus taken, every single dime, should go into the General Fund of whichever level of government is doing the taking.

lurkersusie

Must get Trump anyway he can.

Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
New: Special Counsel Mueller is now asking questions about Jared Kushner mishandling classified information, stemming from intercepts of foreign government officials
11:26 AM · Dec 7, 2018 · Twitter for iPhone

Rocco

Rosenstein discussed wearing a wire to impeach the president and discussed the possibility of getting Sessions, Kelly and some other cabinet members to be named later, to go along.

Two down...

Narciso79

I had this yesterday:
https://amgreatness.com/2018/12/06/george-h-w-bush-and-the-failure-of-american-foreign-policy/?fbclid=IwAR2rnC-mN2gqX8fayoUaOY4g7H1TCMldj3KDmSvD7BU76e1xF5ZdaQ3rnEg#.XAqY0TnzXCg.facebook

jimmyk

“if 15 Trump hating Lawyers couldn't find anything then there must not be anything there.)”

Maybe, but the same could have been said about 10 Trump-hating lawyers and 5 objective lawyers. And why take 2 years and make a bunch of pointless indictments?

Old Lurker

Get real, guys.

Since it is now taken for granted that a Mueller Report is going to be made public (confounding our earlier reliance of "the law" making no such requirement), then it is laughable beyond belief that it will not be filled with hundreds of tidbits which will feed the "other side" until long after Trump is gone, dead, and buried.

There will be not a single argument "our side" will be able to make that there is a single aspect of the report that does not prove the Trump Haters right all along.

Thinking otherwise is as big a waste of time arguing that Mueller wears a white hat and all the other suggestions of the 4th Dimension.

Narciso79

Well that's a given, so what do we do, you cant feed the crocodile.

Old Lurker

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lawyers-stopping-comey-from-answering-questions-during-hill-testimony-gop-rep-says

The only comical thing about the news in this link is that any sane person expected anything of value from Comey talking to a Congressional Committee.

Today sure seems to be filled with bad comedy.

Another Bob

Re.Tucker Carlson, Antifa wins again.

No more complicated than that I suspect.

Narciso79

Basically hes making old lurkers argument, wishes have littor to do with reality.

Old Lurker

Hi A-Bob.

I wanted to tell you that my original plan for future proof wiring my house was almost verbatim with what your friend did.

I ever located a wiring company that would assemble all the wires and fibers I wanted into an outer jacket so that I could home run to each wall in each room by having the electrician pull a single bundle the size of a big ass hose.

It was a GLORIOUS plan.

Until I priced it and think your buddy got off cheap with only the price of a new Mercedes.

Narciso79

So the French left wants to go after Macron for acknowledging reality.

MissMarple2

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-06/u-s-becomes-a-net-oil-exporter-for-the-first-time-in-75-years

Neo

Ex-Donald Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos was released from prison Friday morning after serving 12 days for foolishly getting in the middle of US and British intelligence agencies.

MissMarple2

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/lindsey-grahams-push-for-regime-change-in-saudi-arabia-is-a-dangerous-mistake/

A twitter comment about this article:


Buzz Patterson
‏ @BuzzPatterson
4m4 minutes ago

Lindsey doesn’t understand the region. I’ve spent more time than I want to remember there. Regime change in Saudi is NOT a good idea.

Old Lurker

Raise your hand if one reason you voted for Trump was so you would never have to read this again:

"President Donald Trump signed a stop-gap bill on Friday to postpone a fight over a possible partial government shutdown until right before Christmas. The bill passed by the House and the Senate extends appropriations until December 21. The previous deadline was December 7 but was postponed by Congress in response to the death of former President H.W. Bush. The new Friday, December 21 deadline will force the government funding fight to the only deadline that appears to matter for members of Congress, the day to leave Washington to be with their families at Christmas."

Narciso79

Of course it's not, hold my beer.

cathyf
Law enforcement should not EVER be self funding.

If there’s a more direct path to corruption and abuse of power, I can’t imagine what it would be.


Amen on this. The ONLY allowed use for forfeited assets, civil & criminal fines, licensing fees, etc. should be towards paying down the National Debt. When the debt is paid off, then we’ll talk further...

The Constitution says that ALL spending bills must 1) originate in the House; 2) be passed by the House & Senate; 3) be signed into law by the president. Any and every other spending plans are unconstitutional. All monies coming in should reduce the debt, and all monies spent need to be justified independent of that, including that every penny spent on everything increases the debt.

Because part of the whole constitutional process of government is that if Congress decides that the money we take away from organized crime, etc, needs to be spent on medical care for veterans, or national defense, and not on bullet-proof vests or squad cars, then that’s how it’s spent. If you want the money prioritized according to the decisions of elected representatives, then they have to be in control of every bit of it.

MissMarple2

Old Lurker,

OK, let's look at who is in the House. You have people who are retiring, like Paul Ryan. You have people who lost the election, like Mia Love. And you have RINO's left in the House.

So, if they don't want to fund a wall and won't vote, what are you going to do?

daddy

my co-workers wife picked this up for him at Costco and he says its terrific:
German Beer Advent Calendar For $59.99

Tom R

Raise your hand if one reason you voted for Trump was so you would never have to read this again:

Do you think if Trump asked "pretty please" real nice to everyone in Congress they would do everything he wants?

Why don't you place the blame where it should be placed?

MissMarple2

Old Lurker,

And to further labor my point, the Senate, with Corker and Flake as past of their slim majority, won't vote for it anyhow.

So what do you think the President should do?

Neo

"So often, the president would say, 'Here’s what I want you to do, and here’s how I want you to do it,'" Tillerson said at a fundraiser for the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, in his first public remarks about his truncated tenure since Trump summarily fired him by tweet in March.

"And I would have to say to him, 'Mr. President, I understand what you want to do. But you can’t do it that way. It violates the law,'" he said.

Tom R

Jon Solomon's pet theory is that Mueller knows and has always known that there was no Trump/Russia collusion and that the reason he picked a heavily partisan team of Trump Hating thugs to do the investigation was a bit of self protection, meaning that when Mueller ends the investigation and says there was no Trump/Russia Collusion he can protect himself by saying to the disappointed Left that he intentionally picked these thug investigators because if there was anything to be found they would have found it

That passes the logic test. Has Solomon expressed that pet theory before today? He seems to be the journalist of choice for leaks favorable to Trump.

If its true it makes you wonder if that was a topic of discussion when Trump and Mueller had their private meeting the day before Mueller was appointed SC. How funny would it be if it turned out it was Trump himself who told Mueller to hire nothing but Democrats?

lurkersusie

If anyone is interested

Jordan Schachtel
@JordanSchachtel
FBI has dropped new docs on Hillary Clinton email server investigation.

Includes notes discussing how ppl connected to Clinton acted in interviews w/ feds:
-Acted surprised about revelations
-Didn't recall anything
-Used identical talking points
Link:

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-28-of-28/view

Narciso79

It was ike the scenr with deniro and Pacino in heat, for our purposes Mueller is deniro

Jane

Apparently Comey has a lawyer from the Justice Department who keeps telling him to not answer questions.

Neo

President Donald Trump will officiate the coin toss before the Army-Navy game on Saturday.

Narciso79

Scene in, it's not fitzgerald.

MissMarple2

Jane,

How can that be that he would have a DOJ attorney? Wouldn't that be either collusion or conflict of interest?

Buckeye

"And I would have to say to him, 'Mr. President, I understand what you want to do. But you can’t do it that way. It violates the law,'" he said.

Not something Mitch Rapp would say:)

Narciso79

Well he doesn't say what it concerns I imagine it's about the Iran deal, but it could be about thr immigration pause.

Another Bob

MM, Comey had his clearance lifted but is still bound to it for classified he already received. Never had a national security type clearance, but wouldn’t surprise me that part of it included a requirement to have a government lawyer when disclosure might become an issue.

johns

Question I want to ask Comey: you read the dossier. You tried to verify the claims as to russians saying that Vladimir was coordinating with Donald. So all the resources of the CIA and the FBI couldn't get any russians to tell you the dirt that one ex-British spy supposedly got by himself,with contacts that were a decade or more old?

Narciso79

Buzzfeed tried to verify they ended up using a fusion affiliate that's why they are in court in miami.

anonamom


Not sure why Tucker adopted the talking points of that blonde scarecrow, Coulter.

?Because they are factually correct?

GUS

Yes, asset forfeiture. Imagine a Judge got to keep the fines he metes out and spend them on JUDGEY STUFF.

SESSIONS sucked. And sucked. And sucked some more.

But but but but ALABAMA and stuff.

Old Lurker

MM "So what do you think the President should do?"

I'll bite.

How about this: "As I warned exactly one year ago when I was brand new and still trying to assemble a Cabinet, and how I have warned once a month since then, I will not ever sign another CR that allows the government to continuing operating outside of its Constitutional requirements. That is why the people elected me, that is what I promised to do, so that is what I so order. Close it down. You can fire me in two years if you want to."

Then DO IT.

Darn it, MM, the Deep State and Congress are ALWAYS going to want to dodge their duty, and frankly, every President who was not elected by promising to stop that insane process would frankly enjoy life more without those pesky constraints too. Leave it to them and this will never stop.

You need to stop defending everything the man does and every once in a while question the emperor's clothes too.

Old Lurker

Jane and MM, see my link at 1:18.

Comey has two government lawyers working against the interests of the government.

GUS

OL, we have been left with TRUMP or someone else who REALLY REALLY SUCKS (Jeff Sessions excluded).

It's a choice of SHIT SANDWICH or GLASS OF PISS.

I'd like mine on the rocks please.

Captain Hate

Trump can unilaterally build the wall and defund Planned Parenthood and Obamacare?

MissMarple2

Well, Old Lurker, I am from the Highlanders who defend our chieftain.

That means I am loyal. I figure the guy risked a lot for us, so I should trust his judgement.

Furthermore, we don't know what else is going on, as I have said before.

I bet you were a pain in car rides as a kid - always bitching every 5 minutes "Are we there yet?"

I am patient. And I think there is a lot of section coming up in the next month.

Isn't that guy Huber supposed to be in Kansas? That is where the President is today. Who even knew he was going to speak to this group?

Old Lurker

Neo, that Tillerson quote is grossly unfair. Everybody in an organization sits around a table and the boss guides with his vision, and every one I have ever seen says something like "Here's how I would LOVE to do it" and that is often followed with the reasons why it can't be done that way. No good executive suite functions well without that sort of talk.

Tillerson knows that, has certainly led with that debate device himself, and sounds to me like this is yet another gratuitous slam by somebody who should be ashamed.

GUS

I thought Huber was in UTAH. What does HUBER look like??? Do we know ANYTHING about him??

Narciso79

Of course hes a mine field mole, you expect anything different.

MissMarple2

Well, I have to run out to the store. We could probably scrape by until tomorrow but I need dog food, dog treats, and a few other things.

Back later!

Jane

OL,

2 "government" lawyers but it's the one from DOJ telling him to shut up. Since the committee has all the proper clearances it is just a stonewall by the DOJ. Comey has 2 more hours to go and the committee says they will bring him back (fat chance they agree) and they have also said they want to question Rosenstein this year as well.

It's all a joke because the left couldn't care less about the law or the truth.

Extraneus

Yeah, I agree on Tillerson. A pretty sleazy attack coming from a guy who probably did the same thing hundreds of times.

Or maybe he was like Obama and knew more about accounting than Exxon's head of accounting, and more about permitting than the head of his regulatory policy department, and more about drilling than...

Old Lurker

"I am patient" since I know we are the same age, I would suggest that it would be nice to go to our graves knowing that the course change finally kicked in.

I know about your blind loyalty and am jealous how much comfort that gives you.

GUS

Obama said he knew more about policy than his policy making team. "I got game" said the bi-sexual Turkey Baster.

Old Lurker

Jane "Since the committee has all the proper clearances it is just a stonewall by the DOJ."

Is that the same DoJ which under the Constitution works for the President who is fully accountable for what his departments do or don't do?

Like you, it really ticks me off.

Captain Hate

So, if they don't want to fund a wall and won't vote, what are you going to do?

Veto it until they submit something acceptable.

Old Lurker

Cap'n you did in one line what took me a long post to say. You da man.

Extraneus

Trump's people will have the same right not to answer questions when the worm turns in January.

"I'm sorry, that's classified. Ongoing investigation, that sort of thing. You understand."

lurkersusie

Why the support for Barr? Read this article from April


https://t.co/8l6D6eSZg6?amp=1

Captain Hate

Congress is not set up to investigate things effectively. It's just not as the donks are about to find out.

Neo

We all knew this was coming …

Atria, maker of Marlboros (and those lame PSAs), sinks $1.8 billion into the pot business

GUS

Has RODHAM been questioned by WHITE HAT 4-D MUELLER about paying for RUSSIAN DIRT yet???

Anyone??

Beuhler??

Tom R

Are all of you who are vehemently opposed to civil asset forfeiture for FEDERAL crimes going to vote for someone else besides Trump in 2020, who supports it to combat organized crime (think Mafia and drug cartels) and terrorist organizations?

Before you abandon support for Trump, were you aware that 47 states have some form of civil asset forfeiture laws for state/local crimes? Only North Carolina, New Mexico and Nebraska have banned it at the state level.

Here are some more stats. Only 15 states require a conviction before seizing assets. 34 states require the defendant to prove the assets were not acquired via criminal activity.

More info here for those interested.

https://ij.org/activism/legislation/civil-forfeiture-legislative-highlights/

Lastly, I'm fine with the Feds putting any seized money into the General Fund and letting Congress decide how its spent.

Old Lurker

True, Ext. But at this stage Comey is neither Trump's person, nor an employees of the Executive Branch, and by remaining silent he is serving neither (actually hampering) the Executive nor the Congress. And we pay his lawyers to do that?

If Trump sends his actual officers to Congress to stay silent, then that is being done for whatever reasons the Executive Branch thinks is necessary, not simply to protect the bad acts of a gang plotting a coup.

GUS

He thinks we should give CONGRESS more of someone elses money. Because they do so well with the money they've already confiscated.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

Probably old hat to you guys but new to me so I snapped a photo.
For the guitar players:

GUS

Has WHITE HAT 4-D MUELLER investigated Big Jim Weasel moves Comey for leaking FBI documents to his law professor friend and to the NY SLIMES yet????

Anyone???

GUS

Never owned a JACKSON. But I will!!

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