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lurkersusie

Sean Davis
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According to the redacted original FBI 302 of the Flynn interview, finalized on February 15 (two days after Flynn resigned), Flynn claimed that he never asked the Russians to not escalate following new U.S. sanctions and that he never asked them to vote a certain way at the U.N.

clarice

Thanks for all this, lurkersusie.

lurkersusie

More interesting information

Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2
Why did Kislyak call Flynn the day Obama announced the sanctions against Russia? Kislyak was close with his US counterpart- also an outspoken Trump foe. He visited the Obama White House more than 3 dozen times. Was he key to the setup of Gen. Flynn?

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dismissing the Russian dips was The Rat's way of drawing the line behind his foes who had diplo relationships with Russkies.

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Maybe after the sanctions went down The Rat's right hand national security speechwriter whatever Ben Roadie wasn't returning Kislyak's calls. And Lurch was busy scrounging pallets for the Iran Heist.

Flynn was a reliable contact. Simplest explanation.

D

Lurkersusie:
Good question.
See TomR, this is how it is done.
We are in the land of reality thanks to MM and her 7:11 post and the reliable Lurkersusie.

Narciso79

There was no tie even in the bogus crowdstrike report between the hackers and the Russian diplomats, remember Obama was encouraged to wage cyberwar against the russians

Narciso79

But that 302 came two weeks after that original interview,

lurkersusie


More news from
@julie_kelly2
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Kislyak visited Obama’s White House more than 3 dozen times in 8 years. The last time, according to records, was in September 2016.

In 2011, he hosted a lavish dinner for 50 top officials in Obama adm.

So why did he call FLYNN the day the sanctions were announced by Obama?

Narciso79

Remember air claire met him along with 30 other democrats.

sbwaters

jimmyk, a dear departed relative was a real hoarder. At least two feet deep in every room of the house.

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julie K: i dunno. why not call 1-800-Land-Of-Reality?

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https://pjmedia.com/trending/with-fbi-misconduct-against-flynn-revealed-mueller-obstruction-probe-evaporates/

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From the 803p:

"Former FBI director James Comey even appeared on MSNBC to brag about the breach, stating:

[This was] something I probably wouldn’t have done or wouldn’t have gotten away with in a more organized administration. …

In the George W. Bush Administration or the Obama Administration, if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official, you would work through the White House counsel, there would be discussions and approvals and who would be there. And I thought, it’s early enough let’s just send a couple guys over.

The Justice Department and the FBI engaged in misconduct in the questioning of Flynn, and it ought to result in overturning Flynn’s conviction.

We’ll see what Judge Emmet Sullivan does for Flynn’s sentencing."

Catsmeat

Hi, JimSunnyvale...good question, and better as I'm not a lawyer and can therefore fall back on the expressionistic qualities of language, which in this case means that "habiliment" re GUS means his general chivalric vesture--not literal, of course, but metaphoric. So he wore the cloth, as it were, and got me the venison when he truly didn't have to, and it is now in my freezer awaiting good things for the eaters.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Nov Fischer;
Why Michael Cohen Is Particularly Detestable and Despicable

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A lil pushback:

https://www.newsweek.com/radio-station-repeatedly-plays-baby-its-cold-outside-2-hours-straight-1262081

henry

We’ll find tomorrow, assuming no further delays.

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See? She not so smart.

https://www.newsweek.com/dinesh-dsouza-michelle-obama-michelle-obama-degree-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-1261240

MissMarple2

"So why did he call FLYNN the day the sanctions were announced by Obama?"

lurkersusie,

THAT is a very good question!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Make that Dov Fischer.

Narciso79

I don't think he did more likely Kislyak called to commiserate, like that little dialogue I wrote up at the time.

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exactly, Narciso. he'd been cutoff.

Tom R

See TomR, this is how it is done.

Fully agree. That reporter Lurkersusie cited asks the same kind of questions in the same manner I do.

Narciso79

It's just like the discrepancy between whether McCabe contacted Flynn or vice versa.

MissMarple2

From ChiTown:

"It's completely a coincidence we have two identical drafts at three different dates; not at all because we re-edited original version. Also, a coincidence we didn't record it, asked for no lawyer to be present, lost original handwritten notes & hide one of the agents involved." pic.twitter.com/0sAL2Nh9Ct

— Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) December 18, 2018

Link goes to a screen cap.

Tom R

Sarah unloads...

https://twitter.com/presssec/status/1074829578886103040?s=21

Tom R

Is this observation by Brian Cates the correct take?

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1074820953849384960?s=21

MissMarple2

Guys,

I have been up since 4 AM. I have to call it a night.

Nytol!

lurkersusie

Six months after my mom died my siblings and I
received a letter from Dad’s lawyer. Mandatory
meeting at my parents house on .....no spouses
or grandchildren.

The meeting was boxes and tape and told to take
your belongings and throw what you don’t want
in the dumpster. At that moment a dumpster
landed in the driveway.

By the time we finished we filled the dumpster.
Seven kids left a lot of stuff at their parents house.


daddy

Janet 🚬
I thought Comey sounded confident & smooth.

Me too, Janet.

Narciso79

Why would they write a 302 three weeks after the interview,

Threadkiller

I scrolled down the link, and I think Brian Cates has it right that Sullivan had to force Mueller's hand.

Shame on Mueller.

Narciso79

It's about par the course, I was reading that book about the top gangster program and there is very little about what the us attys office was doing in boston in the early 80s.

Narciso79

Now will judge Sullivan do the right thing, after what happened with Sen Steven's one wonders

Tom R

What did Strzok and Pientka tell Flynn the nature of the interview was? Also, what purpose is served by redacting Pientka’s name?

Narciso79

They did q similar thing with the CIA ig report, they gave pseudonyms to the FBI agents, and redacted large parts, mark thiessen was able to discover one was Ali soufan 'Thomas's who expressed extreme displeasure with the CIA interrogators, the other his partner was a fmr army ranger gaudin who had been through sere training, he didn't have objections

Dave (in MA)

Brilliant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxhDk-hwuo

boatbuilder

"I do think we've got to remember what the Republican Party is," Corker said. "What's happening right now is not the standard Republicanism that we've had in our country for many, many years and it's very different."

Hard to argue with that. Good riddance, I say. MAGA.

jimmyk

I thought Comey sounded confident & smooth.

Consistent with him being a complete psychopath.

lurkersusie

Democrats are sore losers

Public lawfare to take down Trump World is The Resistance's current phase

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/12/public-lawfare-to-take-down-trump-world-is-the-resistances-current-phase/

lurkersusie

That’s a lot of money

Peter J. Hasson on Twitter: "Soros Org Gave $500K To Activists Who Accosted @AGPamBondi At Movie Theater https://t.co/4MCOnKpaFe" / Twitter

https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1074847478451720192

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Would the redaction of Pientka's name from the 302 in question be related to your comment this morning Tom R about an ongoing investigation of some sort in Huber Land?

Dave (in MA)


Barack Obama@BarackObama
I spy...
Jack Posobiec ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️@JackPosobiec
We know

D

Lawfare to take down Trump World.
It is not going to work and will turn off a ton of people.

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Ingenius, eh Dave? :D

Tom R

KK @ 10:02

I’m seeing commenters on CTH and Twitter speculating that is why Pietka’s name is redacted even though we already know he was the second agent present. If true that would imply Mueller and Horowitz/Huber are still coordinating with one another.

daddy

For those who haven't clicked, Tom R's Brian Cates link makes this point:

The original Jan 2017 302 that was just released in redacted form has this line:

After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, FLYNN provided the following...

Cates then speculates thus:

Here's what the Mueller Special Counsel & Comey & McCabe *didn't* want anybody to see...

Comey going on MSNBC to *FREAKING BRAG* about how he & McCabe carefully set Flynn up for this interview is about to come back and BITE HIM right on his bony sanctimonious ass.

... the Mueller SC Team only handed over documents - including McCabe's memos about how he engineered the Flynn interview - AFTER Flynn had pleaded guilty & AFTER Judge Sullivan made a Brady ruling FORCING them to do it.

...the SC team just tried to file under seal the original FD 302 that Pientka wrote so nobody but the judge could see what they were trying to hide. Sullivan wasn't having it.

Now Sullivan has forced the Mueller SC team to put the early 302 out there on the public docket where everybody can read it.

Now the problem becomes obvious: we already KNOW from the McCabe memo & Comey's bragging Flynn was entrapped. The agents MISLED him.

Looks as if Muellers Special Counsel team:

1) coughed up exculpatory docs to the defense only AFTER Sullivan made a Brady ruling

and

2) only coughed up the original early 302 AFTER he specifically demanded to see it and even then they only wanted to submit under seal.

Seems like logical conclusions.

And Cates includes this reminder to stress his opinion:

Remember what McCabe said in that memo included in Flynn's filing last Tuesday:

1) called Flynn up, suggested NO LAWYER
2) coahced agents NOT to tell Flynn interview was about criminal case, don't tell him his rights before hand, don't tip him off.

Then Comey stupidly goes on MSNBC a few days ago where he can't help but brag how he helped engineer this FBI interview that entrapped Flynn, and how in a 'better organized administration', he wouldn't have been able to pull this amazing trick.

If so, it makes you wonder why the bad guys would be shooting their mouths off about it in public.

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Les Moonves may have had a moral terpitude clause in his contract. Headline from Lucianne:

Les Moonves, former CEO of CBS will not receive his promised multimillion dollar severance package. (FOX)

will his bride Julie Chen have to get a second gig?

daddy

So anything stick out in the Feb 302? I scanned it and dozed off.


Henry,

Probably less about what Flynn did, than about what the Interviewing Agents did.

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And how did we come to know Pientka was involved in the Flynn interview, Tom R?

Pinandpuller

Laura Ingraham's middle name should be Savage.

Paul Ryan is a huge asshole and James Comey is a little man. Or vice versa. It doesn't really matter.

boatbuilder

This is from a commenter at Ace: Ryker the failed service dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND63UPelkIw&feature=youtu.be

Reminds me of my then 9 year old daughter and her friend trying to train our first dog, Hershey the lovable but untrainable, to compete in "agility training."

The best part is the other dogs sitting patiently watching him screw up.

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In a single weekend past the announcement of the Weakly Standards closing, it appears the mushrooms have mulched it into worm food. We're moving on.

https://amgreatness.com/2018/12/17/death-of-the-weekly-standard-signals-rebirth-of-the-right/

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/california_moves_its_primary_from_june_to_early_march.html

By Rick Moran
California politicians want a bigger say in who will be the nominee for president from their respective parties. To that end, they have moved their presidential primary from early June to March 3.

lyle

There’s still, after 2 freaking years...NO SKULLS.

Nor heads on pikes nor anyone hanging from a light post.

Nor there will be, alas. 🤨

daddy

Dave,

Great video link at 09:21 but man it is so depressing that there is so much package thievery going on.

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You very well might be correcto, lyle. it will be interesting to see how many obscure players--- and not so obscure players, such as Stedman, Rice, end up announcing a run for the Democratic nomination.

a good way to shield themselves with the court of public opinion: "they're only threatening to indict me because i am a threat to Trump winning the 2020." i can hear Maddow's writers ginning up the mill as we speak.

Pinandpuller

I ran across this Hebrew word 'chalal .'

Interestingly it means

1. To profane, defile, pollute, desecrate

2. To wound, bore through, pierce

3. To play the flute or pipe

I thought it was funny.

Captain Hate

Honestly, I've been waiting for some state to tell Iowa to fuck off. It's long overdue.

Tom R

KK,

Pientka was identified as the second agent months ago. I don’t think that is a disputed fact.

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no skulls and yet Seth What's His Name is still dead and Korney Komey still walks free.

daddy

Consistent with him being a complete psychopath.

As is Strzok.

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Hey Pin! i got one fer ya:

Beelzebub---> Hebrew for "Lord of the Flies".
Cool eh?

Another Bob

Changing it up here...

Anyone catch the NE@PIT game last evening? (Some of you probably did, it was CBS’ highest rated game in a few years.)

Is Tony Romo the best color guy in (rush) histoire (/rush)?

Captain Hate

There is a Santa Claus. The season finale of Murphy Brown is Thursday; our short but seemingly long national nightmare will be over.

Pinandpuller

Rush's 12/13 show has a big rundown of Comey et al. I thought that McCabe's POV was that he didn't think Flynn was lying. Is that all part of the big con?

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Tom R: not suggesting it's disputable or being disputed. shirley Mueller knew it had become public knowledge.

what it suggests to me about the redaction, to me, is at the time of the redaction, Pientka's name wasn't public, but since the markup of the 302 it became public.

That premise doesn't support a Huber/Mueller coordination. It suggests a Rosenstein coordination.

Please rescue me if that's off-base. Very well could be.

Kev

Pinandpuller

Hes a Disputable, Kev.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

Over-engineered "bait" package to inconvenience "porch pirates" who steal packages.
Dialed to 11, but fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxhDk-hwuo

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I get to stay up and hour later tonite. Woo-hoo!

there was a thread segment earlier about the ongoing struggles to reduce clutter and household inventory of "the kids' stuff" left after they leave the nest.

got that goin on big time here at Chez Kid.

i cleared the guest room cuz College Man will be here for 12 days beginning tomorrow.

hauled many useful items out to the driveway's permanent "FREE!" table. (Stuff vanishes quickly). and found reasonable storage spots in the garage and certain closets.

still trying to figure out what to do with that family of 8 that was living in there.

DOH!

Pinandpuller

Kev

Did you know Golding's original title was

Flies, What Are They Good For?

Narciso79

Yes but California is cray cray, not an improvement

So far bastard #2 Rick Wilson is traipsing through mordor I mean Qatar with a passel of democratic congressman one jew bashing Iranian prof at Berkeley and someone from Brookings doind the best Larry Miller impression from pretty woman

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:D PIN!

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From ChiTown (via Sundance):

"Take a look at the filing date of the latest 302. It’s Feb. 15, 2017.

The day AFTER the Page/Strzok texts mentioning “launch the f 302” which would be McCabe’s version.

Wanna bet this version that they’re offering is McCabe’s rewrite?"

Tom R

KK @ 10:52

I’m fine with stipulating Rosenstein is involved with any coordination between Mueller and Horowitz/Huber.

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A-Bob: i dig how Romo does color. another good edition, a little more laid back than Tony, is former Cards Coach Bruce Arrians. understated and funny. "oh sorry. still tryin to figure out what they were thinkin on that last play." :D

Narciso79

This isn't surprising
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/189283-181122-exclusive-french-secret-service-trained-palestinians-gave-sensitive-materials?fbclid=IwAR3pkaoP_4jiQogX4cK6RnMpSOfuCVFpVOAhZDyb8i0hc2XRkYmHjNWqCh8

It explains how they covered the al durra incident

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I knew i'd seen Strozk before:

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

A tiny sidelight of history: the last German POW in the US. Rather than be repatriated to East Germany, he escaped from a camp in New Mexico and evaded capture for decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BecF_NEWeQ8
The History Guy
Georg Gärtner, the last German POW in America
The History Guy has a lot of YouTubes posted if you want to follow up on other notable items.

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Where is Mr. Whitaker?

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PIN! i heard that early title was "Time's Fun When You're Having Flies." Seriously. :D

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

Oops, my 10:55 is the same as Dave's 9:21

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Nite to all! Thanks, ChiTown!! Oh check out the chikken little headlines over at Drudge. :D

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Is Tony Romo the best color guy in (rush) histoire (/rush)?--

I always thought OJ was.
Seriously.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

You know you have a problem when you're about three times more evil looking than Norman Bates.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

If Trump is truly serious, by the end of his second term he will have so molded the DOJ and the FBI that the next Dem president is going to be so hamstrung by constant bullshit investigations he, she or it won't be able to move.

Narciso79

Yes Napolitano seems to have dialed to eleventy in his attempt to outshreek shop smith

Narciso79

Don't know if this dove tails into what we were speaking earlier this morning:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1060431/World-War-3-russia-ukraine-tension-crimea-conflict-putin-azov-sea-kerch-strait

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I'm proud to say I've been telling anyone who would listen for years that the simian Napolitano doesn't know his burro from a burrow.

Narciso79

Well you never met him or at least been in the same room with him, he had one right insight re the surveillance, well actually he got it from scary Larry Johnson whose blog was snapped from the internet.

lurkersusie

I believe this

FORMER PROSECUTOR: My Colleagues Coerce Innocent People — Like Flynn — To Plead Guilty Every Day | The Daily Caller

https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/17/prosecutors-michael-flynn/

Narciso79

This adds a third dimension

http://www.sarawakreport.org/2018/12/treat-with-caution-the-tales-from-tarek-obaid/

Remember the brother was an associate of mifsud as well as khashoggi

Narciso79

And nearly 90 years ago his grandfather organized the first of many campaigns in Yemen

jim nj

https://www.engadget.com/2018/12/17/ford-noise-cancelling-doghouse/

Designed to minimize the effects of fireworks on dogs.

Texas Liberty Gal

Couldn’t find a link but I see via Lucianne that there is a rally
planned for tomorrow morning in Washington DC in defense of General Michael Flynn

Narciso79

Tongue in cheek considering what fitz did to conrad black:

https://www.nysun.com/national/what-if-g-men-went-after-washington-post-as-they/90499/?fbclid=IwAR2eOCaBuFqzZZq99MAAwRaDyt4kGTga7vkxIAW1IcLAeq2FmjDxvXqbzzU

jim nj

Considering the earlier conversation:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/17/our-lock-and-leave-culture-the-rise-of-self-storage-and-clinging-to-stuff-we-hardly-use

Narciso79

And I maintain in so far as conrad black was perhaps the no 1 proponent of who's international agenda, fitzs campaign against hollinger, enabled by Mueller, was a self inflicted wound.

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