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December 31, 2018


Old Lurker

Yes on the pensions, Cap'n. I would honor those for which the current taxpayers paid cash to fund in that current year when they made the promise. I would not honor a pie in the sky promise made by politicians two decades earlier but which those politicians did not fund in real time. "Not funded with cash-cash? Then it does not exist." "Cash-Cash" is different from government IOUs sitting in the SS or a Medicare Trust Fund Cookie Jar.

As to GOP v Dems on this stuff, there is a reason we named them the Uniparty.


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
14m14 minutes ago

One thing has now been proven. The Democrats do not care about Open Borders and all of the crime and drugs that Open Borders bring!

Captain Hate


The problem is that there's a wide range of behaviors about saving for the future and it's not a good look for a country to have a bunch of destitute codgers on the street. Like San Francisco everywhere.

There are still some shocking demographic situations that really should be addressed. Black participation rates in 401K plans are, or at least they were when I last checked, unbelievably low even among the highly educated. This was a "disparate impact" I was hoping the Bathhouse Rat or his chinless wingman might address in his eight year reign of error.


I think last night's NBC broadcasts suggest they should deploy the ed 209s


deploy the ed 209s

The mr ed beta versions would be an improvement.

Old Lurker

Cap'n trouble is we are stuck between two bookends, one representing a world where people are responsible for themselves and their families (and their neighbors are a safety net when deserved), and the other where the Government is responsible and the individuals are not.

Since Wilson we have been hurtling from one toward the other and going back requires a full stop then a change in direction, but proceeding ahead is so much easier.

Darwin had an answer but it does not get many votes.

Captain Hate

Well well well:



OMG! Miss Marple, you posted this twitter link on the previous jom thread. I couldn't believe it, because instead of laughing at the billionaire's husband, the Native American, and the rich Ocasia-Cortex, it creeped me out because I'd just binge watched the British "Bodyguard" about bombings, conspiracies in the government, and organized crime.

Have any of you watched the show? It's on Netflix, and it is good. Honestly, I watched it until about 3 a.m.

So, when I saw each one of the three democrats all in a kitchen (ordinary, middle-class kitchen) pretending to cook, I just shook my head. They're trying to appear 'normal' so that 'normies', ordinary people think 'why they're just like me' -- that's how they've lulled so many LIVs.

Instead of laughing at them, I thought "who do they report to? who plans these little homey videos? who is at the top of their web?"


You guys have got to watch that Netflix show. Maybe you've discussed it before, but I haven't been on here much lately.


Anyway, Happy New Year.

anonamom, I hope your mother is improving and they've diagnosed her health issue.

Old Lurker

MM, I know I am repeating myself, but Trump's unending open border tweets do not sway any opponents and are by now boring to (some of) his base. He risks so much repetition that even (some of) his supporters might start thinking about strawberries.


I've been thinking a lot about why Trump didn't release the 1st FISA warrant.

Considering, there has been no noise from any federal judge about getting snookered, the noise about other means of getting the warrant may have the key.

It seems the USAG can sign a FISA warrant in place of a judge in certain cases, but we've heard nothing about anything like that about Lorretta Lynch. On the other hand, I've heard that you could have gotten a FISA warrant if ... it was signed by President Obama

Captain Hate

Trump's unending open border tweets do not sway any opponents

I'm not sure about that. I got a phone call from one of my youngest daughter's friends who is a converted DJT fan. I don't think he represents an insignificant percentage.


The short answer is they dont think they've been conned, there is always a smokescreen that runs through every prestige publication, an excuse for every gap we've discovered about fusion.


So mannie Macron thinks he can bully a fmr paratrooper like bolsanaro out of a trade deal with the us.

Captain Hate

Considering, there has been no noise from any federal judge about getting snookered

Or by John "Above Politics" Roberts who approved every FISA judge.


Old Lurker,

I realize those tweets bore you, but my daughter (especially after the policeman's murder in California) is wondering why we don't have some sort of physical barrier.

Like I said the other day, those tweets aren't for people like you. They are for people like my daughter, and Captain Hate's acquaintance.


He seems in on extorted that catering outfit out of extorting the sex pic, of that 80s model/slash performer.

Old Lurker

MM, Cap'n agrees with you too, so I will just snipe from here...don't mind the grumpy old man in the corner!


Happy New Year, BTW.


This is the travismickasham that occupies the heart of the legal judicial establishment.


And when it doesn't serve the narrative its discarded:


Captain Hate

Roberts might be more conservative than Souter by definition, but does anyone think that he doesn't consider himself part of the ruling class and is predisposed to thwart anything by that outsider bumpkin Drumpf?


McArdle just figured out she’s gonna need job retraining soon... as “do you want fries with that” jobs are getting automated (gee thanks min wage!) and retail “greeter” jobs are displaced by Amazon, even valet parking is getting pushed out by self driving cars, so any retraining is beyond her ability to absorb. Thus her gendered assault on the “old man yelling at clouds” career. She should learn a curveball for cat tossing, and switch to left handed.


Luke Rosiak

Some of the entertainers who the Black Caucus scholarship charity blew all its money on. Did they not care enough about the youth to waive their fees?

-Doug E. Fresh & Slick Rick
-Big Daddy Kane
-Montel Williams
-Eric Benét & Regina Belle
-Roland Martin
-Danny Glover


Michael (fpa P4F) Stop the WitchHunt-Stop the Coup

Happy New Year 2019 to all of the JOM family and to OGH Mr. Maguire.

Wishing everyone a healthy, joyful and prosperous New Year!


Ah montel most recently carrying the torch for Alyssa milani, chavista Glover, roland Martin is only inadvertently entertaining


The problem is that there's a wide range of behaviors about saving for the future and it's not a good look for a country to have a bunch of destitute codgers on the street.

For sure, but as I'm sure you realize, that would justify at most some kind of genuine savings plan (as opposed to the 'pay-as-you-go' ponzi crap) that responsible people could opt out of by setting aside enough money on their own.


It's the most paint by numbers understanding, gerson just throws some paint with his hand.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Medicare is classified under Herb Stein's "if something can't go on forever..." aphorism.
In the meantime, however, its most insidious effect is the distortion and harm it causes private insurance.
As it continues to squeeze the cost and every other balloon on its end because of its massive power, those on the private side see their costs and premiums balloon as their service declines. And as always, progs try to ride to the rescue with more big government to cure a problem their big government created in the first place.

matt - deplore me if you must

Macron just went full retard on the Gilles Jaunes calling them names. Not smart. I think anyone with a car is going to be pissed off now. Raising taxes to appease the Global Warming elite is bound to be unpopular.

The WSJ had an article on some yoyo who bought up a Borneo rainforest in order to sell carbon credits, which 5 years on has blown up in his face.

But at least he can go see the orangutans now.

Funny how the blowback is mounting around the world.

Happy New Year to all! May you have good health, happiness and success in all you do!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

There is NO justification for the federal government sticking its nose into ANY kind of pension issue; public, private or otherwise. It's none of its damned business.


Still playing catch up but I do hope Anonymom’s mom is doing much better!
Anyone make any resolutions? I plan to focus more on my health but more importantly I plan to do everything in my power to help crush the campaign of Lizzie Warren!



Sharyl Atkisson


I have a sister on Medicare who complains that a lot of doctors don't accept it, and she's often unhappy with the ones that do. Though she's a chronic complainer, so who knows.

So far, so good for me on Medicare. My primary care guy is an employee of the OSU medical system, like Jr., and coincidentally one of Jr.'s former professors.

I don't think anyone can practice inside the University system and not take Medicare.

Between him and my son, I am confident I can get the right referrals if/when I need to see specialists.

Interestingly, my wife's insurance carrier (BCBS) was just dropped by the best private hospital in Columbus. Private insurance is no guarantee that you can pick your service providers.


I try not to 'push' my comments on you guys, however, :), if anyone is bored, doesn't want to watch bowl games, or read, or put away Christmas decorations, sit down and watch this series.


The NYT doesn't like it. (I wonder why. Ha!)

It's by Jed Mercurio, who did The Line of Duty series that is so good. Think amazon carries it.

Anyway, Bodyguard is entertaining -- you watch as corruption oozes through British national security, the police, organized crime, and is often carried out by jihadi accomplices.

Also, Jane, which Prime The Whole Truth video did you watch last night? When I checked, one with Keanu Reeves popped up -- is this the one? I thought when I read your post that maybe it was on history or was a documentary (don't know why I thought that -- also David Baldacci's name came up in search and I wondered if they'd made a movie of that book, haven't had time to go back and check.)


"Happy New Year 2019 to all of the JOM family and to OGH Mr. Maguire."

Shall we henceforth refer to Mr Maguire as "The OGH"?
For the record, I don't know what it stands for but it's a suitably imposing title.

Texas Liberty Gal

Happy New Year 🎊. I’m always amazed at how many of you keep up to date here. I am always hopelessly behind. My husband and I celebrated our 36th Anniversary yesterday. We spent it at our Club which was having a big New Years celebration. As usual the men were in the Casino portion of the club while the ladies went to the dance floor and danced on the dance floor. It’s like we are back in High School - Good grief. Oh well I worked off all the calories from my meal anyway. A blessed New Year to all


One of the interesting things is Theresa May didnt like it:


Keeleys portrayal of Julia is as a very ruthless person, who does not hold back in her zealousness, yes she has failures of judgement, the picture it paints of the UK is quite dark.


Agree with the comments: it's hard to have a bimodal society of well behaved communities paired with unsustainable communities.

In the end a society only survives if the citizens are of good quality.
Other situations can limp along for a while, then Darwin suddenly steps in.

Texas Liberty Gal

Evidently NBC’s NYE show stunk.


Does Darwin step in, or the 4 Horsemen ride through?

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Highly recommend narc's 12:48.


Posted by: henry | January 01, 2019 at 12:57 PM

the power of and?

afternoon all, and a happy new year.


My resolution is to think more about the future than the past.


Some cyber security predictions, for those wishing to fully embrace doom:



Ig is 1000% correct about Medicare. It is the root of our insane medical costs because it destroyed the market.

And the death panels already exist. Not paying for a rehospitalization within thirty days for Medicare patients with a discharge diagnosis of heart failure or pneumonia caused an increase in deaths for people with those diagnoses since that regulation came into effect.
Gee, who woulda thunk that???

On the momma front, I called at 8:30.
"I gotta get out of this place."
She's better!
Being discharge within the hour, if all goes as planned.

Thank you for the prayers, and the concern.


Maybe someone ought to investigate the collusion between Qatar and America's biggest newsrooms


OGH--Our Great Host ?

Michael (fpa P4F) Stop the WitchHunt-Stop the Coup

OGH = Our Gracious Host

For being so kind as to provide this home for the JOM family.


"Our Gracious Host" I believe.


A commenter at BJG blog:

Muslim Community Patrol in NYC. It’s cars are dead ringers for NYPD squad cars:
What could go wrong?


I heard Trump is feeling shamed by the revelation that there is not, after all, a 10-foot wall around Obama's house. So he's decided he does have funding to build one. Around Obama's house. And with no gates or other ways in or out. Amontiladdo!


I don't believe in Our Gracious Host,
I just believe in me, just Yoko and me.


Interesting Neo. I wonder if we will ever find out. what would that require?

Old Lurker

Jane/Neo...if we never find out there will never be closure on the distrust half the country has for our system of justice.

No justice, no trust. No trust, no Consent of the Governed. No Consent of the Governed, no country.



That's the one - I'm still reeling from it. It's a movie about 90 minutes. The end was simply amazing.

Here's a link. For some reason I can never remember the name: "The Whole Truth".


Harrumph! I forgot the link!



This is worth reading:


Manuel Transmission

HNY everyone.

Someone posted a Zman link yesterday. After reading that I scanned back to see what else he’s posted lately.


This is a pretty good redefinition of Empires and how ours is the odd man out. As usual, he splashes cold water on where we’re headed.

Some of his commenters are a little off the mark, but some are as thoughtful as our gang here. I continue to spot the occasional grump that thinks like I do that we are likely to end up with another 912 March, except with AR-15s strapped across our chests. One suggested that we just shoot out the windows in the FIB/DoJ buildings. That would get their attention.

On a separate note, re anniversaries, last night was the 54th anniversary of our first date. It was at a buddy’s Mom’s place. My bud also had a first date there and they are still married, too. The only bad thing was that I brought a Dylan album to play and my bud’s older brothers almost threw me out! Heh. They were hard core C&W dudes.


Wow,narciso, your 12:48 -- nothing has changed. We haven't learned one damn thing:

"This is what the Washington Post got in bed with when it began publishing the Qatar Foundation’s catspaw. And this is what the rest of the media crawled into bed with when it turned him into a martyr.

"This is the toxic torrent of Jihadist anti-Semitic, anti-Christian filth being celebrated with the ball drop in Times Square on New Year’s Eve."

And silly, moronic women like James Comey's wife wear pink pussy hats and smile and applaud the words of Linda Sarsour.


The whole story is fake, yes effendi khashoggi is mostly dead,(rimshot) but the purposes to which his death is being used is something else again.


So MLB (or as it’s known on my cable TV offering redundancy: MLB Baseball) is climbing into bed with the Commies in Cuba per some recent news reports. Damn. How can I protest this by stopping watching or caring MLBB when I don’t in the first place?


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago

Congratulations to President
@JairBolsonaro who just made a great inauguration speech - the U.S.A. is with you!


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
39m39 minutes ago

Border Security and the Wall “thing” and Shutdown is not where Nancy Pelosi wanted to start her tenure as Speaker! Let’s make a deal?


OMGH---Our Most Gracious Host (seen at Althouse)

narc and ralph l, I noticed neither of you piled on with the "best place EVER" going on over there on the New Years Eve open thread.

(That woman requires people to confine their discussion to what SHE posted! Imagine!!!)
(And what is gracious about THAT???)


Thanks, Jane. Just made some Mexican Cornbread (am I allowed to call it that?) -- and am about to watch The Whole Truth on the laptop, while Heupel's UCF fights LSU, muted on the tv.

Narciso, I imagine Teresa May hated that show -- the way she's handled Brexit, you'd think there was nothing but conspiracy in her government.


Great news, anonamom!

Joan, I also liked Bodyguard. Very well done, and considering it was a BBC production, relatively neutral politically.


Yes, jimmyk, I was (almost) stunned by that production going forward. Though Jed Mercurio, in his amazon Line of Duty, didn't pull any punches about corruption in the UK police.

I had forgotten about Bodyguard, had just read a brief mention online some weeks ago, and last night wanted something and it popped up on Netflix. After I started watching and then heard Keeley Hawes voice, I wondered if it was Mercurio's. I love her voice (and imagine she's as liberal as a person could get) --really liked her in Line of Duty. She starred in that popular science fiction Dr. Who for a year or so. She's married to Michael MacFayden. Think they met in Spooks (wasn't that our MI-5?)


Yes I compared it to the British version of 24, where they aren't sparing to any of the leads. She was killed off in the second episode of the first season.


A geologic Calvin and Hobbes!



You know going in, that the sgt has to survive, however mercurios pacing is really strong (even though there's a mcguffin at the beginning)


Good Morning!

Just woke up and am playing the replay of the NASA conference as the data from the Ultima Thule Flyby came in earlier today. Here's a decent Youtube link of that conference, and the talking starts about 3:50 (3 hours and 50 minutes ago).

Another Bob

“OMGH---Our Most Gracious Host”

When I saw “OGH” I thought “Original Gangster _____”.


Remind me, narc@3:19, what was the McGuffin? There was definitely a misdirection.

Jim Eagle


Yeah, watched it live. Pretty suspenseful since the transmission got delayed from 1015hrs. to about 1040hrs. But once it started pinging back to Madrid, it went smooth. Interesting that Navigation needed another day to validate NavSystems. I thought the MOM handled the whole team integration well.

I guess tomorrow we get the first photos.

BTW, here are the Team Playing Cards.


Captain Hate

The Children of the Cornhole have already hit peak retard for the year:



Seen at the Brasilian inauguration:

For tablet users who can't right click:



Love this bit. Reporter asks if they are surprised that Ultima Thule is a sort of bowling pin or peanut shaped elongated object and one of the NASA scientists replies that no they actually are not surprised. He replies:

In fact, most of the small bodies in the Solar System are highly elongated, because they just don't have enough mass to force themselves into an almost perfect sphere. They kind of come together from the material from which the Solar System formed into these clumpy things, and that's what you saw for example in the case of Comet (garbled), the target of the Rosetta Mission. It was a bi-lobate object, and that's common among the cometary nuclei and among the asteroids, so in fact we were expecting something along these lines.

The Shape of Ultima Thule


The Lead NASA Scientist reports that we won't get the highest pan-chromatic images (meaning the most precise images with certifiably valid colors) until about February. He says they will give us their best defined images prior to that and they will overlay color from their best evidence based guesses, but February is when that will be resolved by all the received data.

Jim Eagle

One of the panelists called it a bowling pin:)


Another good logical point of common sense I wouldn't have thought of off the top. The NASA guy says that one of the reasons for the delay, besides the 6 and a half hour time for the signal traveling at Light speed between the spacecraft and earth, is that since they had such a small window during the approach and fly by, that they had to squeeze in every bit of investigation of Ultima Thule that they could during that period, so all their instruments were focused on Ultima Thule, not on aiming an antenna back towards Earth. That aiming back towards earth and then firing off data would occur after the spacecraft took every possible measurement it could during that critical fly by period.

I love the common sense intelligence of these guys.


It actually has the shape of Edward Munch’s Skrit -- The Scream.


Looks more like Hillary in one of those smocks she's taken to wearing.


The motivation of one of the players,


Kanye is tweeting again:

‏Verified account @kanyewest
5m5 minutes ago

One of my favorite of many things that the trump hat represents to me is that people can’t tell me who I should do because I’m black. That’s real racism 🎤


Reporter asks a good question: "The whole idea of this mission was to study something really primitive, really old. Does knowing the rough shape, this bowling pin shape, tell you anything about the conditions in the Kuiper Belt or the proto-planetary disk?"

Scientist: Yeah! It certainly does. How these objects come together, how they're built up, either from growing material, clumps of material that come together, versus being collisional fragments for example. We hope to be able to tell that from looking at these details on the images, but in addition just the number of features on the surface, the number of craters. The thing has been sitting out at a large distance from the sun for 4.6 Billion Years. You know, the surface could have been pummeled by meteoritic material, over the age of the Solar System, and producing craters, or not. If this object for some reason has a process that causes the surface to change over time it would wipe out these craters for example if they were there. But anyway these are the kinds of things that will tell us what was going on in the early Solar System.



When I got to the end of this I saw that they got their information from the AP and the Washington Post. Seems like they could have sent their own correspondent.

Jim Eagle

LSU is demonstrating why UCF is not a top 4 playoff team. I wonder if the damn talk promoting them will finally stop. Face reality fans, not a comparable schedule to the big 5 conferences.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Yassa, dat Kanye gettin all uppity out in da fields again.
Jay-Z and his house boys best put him back in his place forin Miss Scahlett gives dem all a whoopin.


Question: How can you determine its mass?

Scientist: The easiest way to get Ultima's mass is if we can detect satellites and we can determine their orbits, and from that we can use Kepler's laws to directly determine the mass, but if it doesn't have satellites we really don't have a direct way of being able to do that. We do expect to be able to determine its shape entirely, and with pretty good accuracy, so we'll get it's volume, but we wont be able to determine it's mass unless it has a satellite because we flew by it at a distance that its gravity just didn't bend the spacecraft's trajectory enough to be detectable, even with these exquisite tracking techniques that NASA has.

That's mindblowing. I'm having a ball listening to this. Once again, why aren't these reporters in the White House Press Pool?




Reporter asks a "when" question and the lead Scientist replies that it took 9 years to sell the project, 5 years to build it, and 12 years to get it launched and at destination, so it's a "Delayed Gratification" project:)

Says that some disturbance in the Solar Corona is going to prevent radio signals for a while next week, but following that cosmic speedbump in mid January they'll re-pick-up the data transmission feeds again. He said they have an order of priority they want to get downloaded due to highest priority scientific objectives:

1) Mapping the Surface
2) Looking for satellites and rings
3) Mapping the surface Composition
Then he says that they map the surface a dozen different ways and he goes into that. The above will all start to come in mid January after the Corona problem ceases.
The other stuff like
4) Radar experiments and a ton of other things.

He says they are still worried the spacecraft could crap out on them so they want the high-pri data delivered first, so stand by for "Delayed Gratification."

Jim Eagle

Did I speak too soon? If that onside kick had worked, I would be eating crow for a year.

Jim Eagle


Solar carona is because its orbit next week is behind the sun for a couple of days.

Jim Eagle


According to the DOE specs on the reactor, New Horizon has enough fuel for 15-20 years of further missions. I think we are going to see even more interesting discoveries.


I also loved that the chief Scientist reiterated a number of times that this project was a United States of America project and how great it was to live in a country like America that could pull together and produce things like this. Besides my opinion that he actually believes that, I think he is pointedly making that point about America and American greatness as pushback against those Hollywood jackasses who made the Neil Armstrong movie and intentionally removed America and the American flag in their rewrite of history.

Press conference ended. Catch-up begins.


Highly recommend that Michael Walsh piece MM linked to: at 4:33. https://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/new-years-resolutions-for-the-white-house/


Muslim Doctor Fired From Ohio Clinic After Threatening to Purposely Give Jewish Patients Wrong Medication

Her tweet was from January, 2012. I wonder how many Jews she's killed since then.

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo Pardons 22 Illegals to Prevent Their Deportation

The pardons were mostly for drug possession, but drug dealing, arson and robbery as well. One of the men Cuomo pardoned set “an acquaintance’s car on fire as an act of mischief,” according to the governor’s statement.

Cuomo also used the statement to trash President Donald Trump.

“While President Trump shuts down the federal government over his obsession with keeping immigrants out, New York stands strong in our support for immigrant communities,” Governor Cuomo said. “These actions will help keep immigrant families together and take a critical step toward a more just, more fair and more compassionate New York.”

The statement explained that the goal was to “remove the barriers that their criminal records present to their immigration status. Some are facing deportation, while others wish to be able to participate in their communities as citizens of the country they call home. In each case, a pardon will make immigration-related relief possible, if not automatic.”

Cuomo additionally commuted the sentences of seven illegal immigrants that are currently imprisoned.


Why don't they just boycott these things? Refuse to compete.

This Picture Sums It Up Pretty Well… Transgender Wrestler Taking Testosterone Injections Wins 2nd Texas ‘Girls’ State Wrestling Title

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Uh oh. New thread?

No. :-)


Funny thing Ext, steroid injections would disqualify a natural born male athlete. But it’s cool for “girls” sports?

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