Lessons From Hillary

A third grader loses a class election to a fourth grader. Hillary sees sexism, not a triumph of experience over hope.

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[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2h2 hours ago

It is incredible that with a very strong dollar and virtually no inflation, the outside world blowing up around us, Paris is burning and China way down, the Fed is even considering yet another interest rate hike. Take the Victory!

[MissMarple2]

I read a long article on Bizpacreview this morning reviewing the Clinton's joint appearance in Montreal. I didn't link it because it was so tedious. Lots of quotes which were as boring as you can imagine.

[henry]

The parents acted miserably in that election.

[Account Deleted]

suzie quattro

[sbwaters]

A Facebook entry today from a young friend, one of the nicest people in the whole world. If I may:

A reminder of how drinking and driving can destroy the life of so many people other than you.
My older brother was in his second week of 1st grade when he walked home from school for the last time. The crossing guard had them walk because it was a red light...

He was only 6 years old when his life ended because of a terrible decision. My mother was 8 months pregnant with my sister [name withheld] and they were never able to meet. There aren’t enough words to describe what she went through and how my sister was never able to know her brother. He will forever live on through our family and people who knew/loved him.

If you’re put in the situation where you have a choice.. choose to Uber, Lyft, have a DD or walk.

Think about my family, your family and so many others it could change forever..

The world would be better for it.

Enjoy your 35th birthday in heaven with Mommy and Granny.

[Name withheld]

Rest in Power Young King.. 👼🏾👑

[henry]

Mueller smacking more people:

Federal prosecutors have indicted two business partners of Michael Flynn, the former national security adviser for President Trump.

Bijan Kian and Kamil Alptekin are accused of acting as agents of the Turkish government, and have also been charged with conspiracy and making false statements.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-business-partners-of-former-trump-adviser-mike-flynn-indicted-11545060554

[Old Lurker]

What does it say about me that the only thing I wanted to learn when I logged onto JOM this morning was if JiB got the dogs back. Answer: yes, 600 posts into the previous thread.

Jack, you need GPS tracking collars on those bad dogs.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/exclusive-will-congress-ask-james-comey-why-clinton-connected-bomber-was-working-with-the-doj-dhs-during-the-2016-election/

This caught my attention because it's about Brett Kimberlin, the Speedway Bomber.

[Old Lurker]

Oh, I guess I also wanted to know if TomR had completed his reverse engineering of the legal bills incurred by Flynn. Did he remember the Xerox bills and the taxi fees? Oh. And the FedEx fees. Those things add up, you know.

[MissMarple2]

https://twitter.com/waltmossberg/status/1074689946571685888

Walt Mossberg explains why he is cancelling his Facebook account.

[Account Deleted]

i recall our "orphan days" when threads ran over 1000 posts before we were strained into a new fish tank. :D

[Account Deleted]

OL:

are you asking me to "go there?" it could go non-sequitur. :D

Kev

[Account Deleted]

overhead is somebody else's friend, right OL?

[Tom R]

KK,

I appreciate the detailed response at the end of the last thread.

Tom, if you are going to set up the Spygate screenplay to be realistic, the sting would have to remain realistic with regard to legal fees.

That is pretty much the same exact point I made. The reported (unconfirmed and from an anonymous source) $3 million in legal fee creates a narrative for both Trump supporters and Trump's enemies that Mueller is trying to take down Trump and as many of his allies as he can.

AND, at $1000 per hour, 300 hours of billables reaches the $3m mark quickly.
when taking into account what a high profile defense like Flynn's would require given Mueller's phalanx of zealous prosecutors and their penchant for "paper", 300 hours seems reasonable

300 hours at the $1000 billing rate you used as an example comes to a total of $300,000 in legal fees. Assuming a $1000 billing rate would require 3000 hours of legal work on Flynn's behalf. Thats a lot of time to spend on someone who has already plead guilty.

to limit the calculation to 62.75 hours

FYI I clearly pointed out the first time I cited the 62.75 hours that it was only for the 19 interview sessions with the SC. I said the number of billable hours would be higher for all the work Flynn's lawyer did for him outside of the SC interviews. I just don't think the number of billable hours would be a large amount for someone who has already plead guilty.

[henry]

Flynn's newly indicted associates are tied to Gulen.

Two former business partners of President Donald Trump's first ex-national security advisor Michael Flynn have been indicted on conspiracy charges related to their efforts to smear a Turkish cleric at the behest of the government of Turkey.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/17/ex-associates-of-former-trump-aide-michael-flynn-indicted-in-turkey-case.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

[clarice]

https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/16/fbi-cia-doubted-dossier/
(Forgive me if I repeat links others have placed here. My travel Mac is going crazy today.)

[Captain Hate]

This caught my attention because it's about Brett Kimberlin, the Speedway Bomber.

The amount of human trash with a Clinton connection is huge. Even that mental case, Patterico, concedes that wanting to keep Tub Dive out of the White House was an "understandable reason" for voting for DJT.

[Account Deleted]

Is there a pattern emerging? LOL wtf.

Why Did Cohen Plead Guilty?

[Threadkiller]

Oh, I guess I also wanted to know if TomR had completed his reverse engineering of the legal bills incurred by Flynn. Did he remember the Xerox bills and the taxi fees? Oh. And the FedEx fees. Those things add up, you know.

Flynn's defense fund website, as administered by his sister, claims that whatever the number is it most certainly has been a "great burden" on Flynn and his family.

Flynn has never denied this.

Hopefully all the staples and paperclips get tallied up in Tom's equation so his version of a great burden matches that of the people actually suffering.

[henry]

From that link on Flynn's associates... one of them is described as:

Bijan Kian, board member of the U.S. Export-Import Bank.

Another reason to end that monstrosity?

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

A pet store had a talkingparrot for sale for $5. A guy came in and saw it and asked "Why does it only cost $5?" The owner said "Because he is rude and swears and we haven't been able to break him of it." The guy figures he can fix him and $5 is a great deal so he buys him.
He takes the parrot home and the bird curses and insults him the whole way. When he gets him home he tries treating it nice, using positive words, and giving it treats but the bird is just as bad.
He decides to change tactics and fight fire with fire. He insults it, curses at it, and yells at it. Still no improvement, in fact if anything it's worse.
Finally the guy has enough. He rips the cage open, grabs the parrot, and yells at it to shut up. The bird just yells back. He wants some peace and quiet so he throws it in the freezer.
The bird screams and shakes the freezer for a few minutes then goes silent. The guy heaves a sigh of relief but then realizes something could be wrong.
He opens the freezer and finds the parrot sitting there nice and proper. The parrot then says "I humbly apologize for my behavior. It was really inappropriate. If you will allow me another chance I will strive to do better".
The guy is stunned He agrees and reaches out for the parrot to climb on his arm. As the parrot climbs on the his arm it nods over it's shoulder and asks "By the way, what did the chicken do?"

[Old Lurker]

TK since you are here. Was it you last night who reminded us that DoT sometimes self-presumed accuracy of his posts and then drew a parallel with Clarice?

In any event, we need to note that Clarice was the innocent bystander all day yesterday and never once used the "because I said so" defense of her $3M number. When she did, she promptly said where she got it, and Clarice is ALWAYS wide open to corrections in what she writes. That's why she readily admits she uses us as editors.

[Account Deleted]

yes, Tom R. Thanks for catching that math misstatement.

i got in a hurry.

the ruling stands though.

i was assuming 300 hours for each of a gang of 10 dedicated to the case. appearance time is the tip of the iceberg was the point. at any rate-- good luck getting the answer that can be verified.

i'm out.

[Captain Hate]

I hope Levin returns from whatever hiatus he's been on for the last two weeks because he needs to unload both barrels on that ambulance chasing pile of shit, Cohen, and the weird handling of him by the federal crooks that Sleepy Jeff neglected to dispose of.

[clarice]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/college-bloat-meets-the-blade-11544829900
H/t Instapundit

[Account Deleted]

a partner of mine pulled in an "associate" for one of our projects. he was nabbed but never convicted of fraud and conspiracy 6 months into our venture.

fortunately for my partner he was a letterhead builder.

neither of us were aware of what he had going on the side.

so forgive me if i don't hold Flynn responsible for the Two Turks alleged misdeeds.

the focus on Flynn has been to smear him and, by association, Trump.

"everyone around Trump is dirty. we MUST impeach."

That's all.

[peter]

Levin is coming back to the air tonight.

[MissMarple2]

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/12/17/pardon-everyone-except-that-rat-cohen-n2537555

[Tom R]

In any event, we need to note that Clarice was the innocent bystander all day yesterday and never once used the "because I said so" defense of her $3M number. When she did, she promptly said where she got it, and Clarice is ALWAYS wide open to corrections in what she writes.

Since you brought it up, Clarice is one of the posters here I have the most respect for. When I and a few others questioned what her source was for the $3 million in legal fees, her posts in response displayed adult maturity and respect. That set her clearly apart from all the people who attacked me for daring to question her.

[Buckeye]

I won't make book on whether Trump gets his wall or not.

I will make a bet that the next few months are going to be HIGHLY entertaining:)

Schumer is going to take a few more lumps before it is all said and done.

[Neo]

We all knew this was coming ...

A foul-mouthed parrot uses Amazon's Alexa to order things when his owner is away
https://cbsaustin.com/news/offbeat/a-foul-mouthed-parrot-uses-amazons-alexa-to-order-things-when-his-owner-is-away

[Ralph L]

test

[MissMarple2]

clarice,

Mitch Daniels is responsible for the Indiana Hoosier scholarship program, which has enabled both of my grandchildren to attend college without incurring debt.

[Threadkiller]

TK since you are here. Was it you last night who reminded us that DoT sometimes self-presumed accuracy of his posts and then drew a parallel with Clarice?

I was pointed out the danger of giving blanket authority to any commentor because of who that commentor is. Several suggestions were made that no questions should be asked. It reminded me of the "shut up" line of debate that Janet used to mock so well. (Janet, i can't remember who it was that told conservatives to shut up. What was the story, if you remember?)

Clarice herself showed frustration at finding the source she used as it appears Google vaporized it.

[henry]

to get CH's blood flowing:

The Wall Street Journal @WSJ
1m

Could Sens. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and Sherrod Brown of Ohio offer a dream ticket for Democrats for the 2020 presidential election, asks @GeraldFSeib

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1074699503553470467

[clarice]

Thanks,OL and TomR--I read thru hundreds of articles and posts every day, take careful notes and try hard for accuracy in the belief that normal people have busy lives and cannot do this but know they are not getting the whole picture from the MSM. I try really hard for accuracy, but 100% is beyond me so I really appreciate those who share my view that credibility depends on the most accurate info available to us.

[Threadkiller]

In any event, we need to note that Clarice was the innocent bystander all day yesterday and never once used the "because I said so" defense

I believe I noted that when I applauded her integrity. If I didn't say it it so few words, I would like to now make it clear that I agree, OL.

[Tom R]

i was assuming 300 hours for each of a gang of 10 dedicated to the case. appearance time is the tip of the iceberg was the point. at any rate-- good luck getting the answer that can be verified.

It's all speculation so I don't ever expect to get an answer that can be verified. I was just hoping one of our lawyers could provide some insight on what kind of legal work generates an estimated total of 3000 hours of combined effort at $1000 per hour on a case that the defendant agreed to a plea bargain. IANAL which is why that total seems completely unrealistic.

[henry]

Muh Russians didn't use ads. They simply posted opinions:

Facebook provided researchers with roughly 3,300 ads, and more than 180,000 organic posts produced by IRA pages across Facebook and Instagram. Twitter provided the researchers with more than 8 million tweets across 3,800 accounts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/17/russias-most-inflammatory-misinformation-posts-were-organic-not-ads.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

[Old Lurker]

I was scanning very quickly TK since there was so much BS clogging the ether so I probably missed it. I know you well enough to know what you meant anyway.

[Jane]

" I was just hoping one of our lawyers could provide some insight on what kind of legal work generates an estimated total of 3000 hours of combined effort at $1000 per hour on a case that the defendant agreed to a plea bargain. "

The kind designed to do so - as in Mueller v Flynn.

[henry]

a thread on the Flynn partner indictments:

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1074688284415193088

I strikes me as seriously weird, even w Flynn's cooperation, to throw so many counts at the business partners of the former National Security Advisor and leave him as an unindicted co-conspirator facing no jail time.

[henry]

That $3 million may have been well earned.

[Narciso79]

You're missing the point, what if general Flynn was arguing the case against Gulen were not talking solzhenitsyn hes the guy who helped turn Turkey into a prison, why should have to have his life on hold for the better part of two years.

[Old Lurker]

It is a mistake to assume that all lawyers bill by the hour in arrears, and the bigger the crime or risk, and the bigger the hammer employed, the more likely trophy fees will be encountered.

Don't ever assume, for example, that the high falutin zoning lawyers used to get projects approved are "paid by the hour".

Don't ever assume that a high falutin bankruptcy lawyer will climb into the ring for you without a big big check changing hands and clearing a bank first.

Don't ever assume that the lawyer representing the seller of a trophy office building walks away from closing with an hourly wage, regardless of the zeros.

And for sure don't assume that for white collar crimes attributed to high profile targets.

[hrtshpdbox]

If I didn't say it it so few words, I would like to now make it clear that I agree, OL.

What you actually said, TK, is that it would be bad precedent to treat anyone's statements as unimpeachably accurate, since anyone can make a mistake. I'd think anyone would agree with you on that (or I do, anyway).

[henry]

narciso, I can't tell Gulen from a random crash test dummy. He's an enemy of Erdogan is about all I know about him. Lots of rumors about his armed compound in outstate New York.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Presumably it was assistance regarding his two business now indicted associates that Mueller was citing in recommending leniency for Flynn.
Their indictments also make it fairly plain why Flynn was willing to cop to something minor.

[Old Lurker]

We all do, Hrts.

[hrtshpdbox]

Maybe Mueller feels like he's going to get yelled at by the judge tomorrow, so figured he'd counter-strike by piling on to Flynn's associates. Mueller might feel double-crossed by Flynn somehow, and be ticked off at him.

[clarice]

Think of how much time Flynn's lawyers have spent reviewing the documents turned over to them by Mueller and preparing memes and then court appearances.

[clarice]

memes s/ memos

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Everything you wanted to know anbout Gulen and his movement.
I think his compound is in Pennsylvania not NY, no?

[Tom R]

I dedicate this post to OL and his 10:45 post. Let's have some more fun with the Flynn $3 million in legal fees topic.

There has been a lot of speculation on social media and political blogs (to include here at JOM) that the reason Flynn lied to FBI agents was to protect Pence. Pence is the one who screwed up on national so the speculation is Flynn took the bullet to protect Pence. When Trump fired him he stated one of the main reasons was because Flynn lied to Pence.

For the sake of discussion lets stipulate that is exactly how it all went down. In this scenario, Trump has known fron the outset that Flynn didn't lie to the FBI and that he took the bullet for Pence to protect both Trump and Pence form the Deep State enemies that Trump already knew had been spying on him.

Let's also stipulate the Mueller is a Black Hat and on a witch hunt to destroy Trump. Now combine this with the stipulated fact that Trump knew Flynn took a bullet to protect both Trump and Pence. In this scenario, Trump knows first hand Flynn is a victim of the Mueller SC witch hunt just like him.

Knowing how expensive Flynn's legal fees could get defending himself against a Deep State Swamp creature who was ultimately trying to destroy Trump, why didn't Trump (or one of his kids) agree to donate enough money to Flynn's legal defense fund so that his legal fees would be fully covered? Why would Trump allow Mueller to destroy Flynn when the only reason Flynn was in any kind of legal trouble in the first place was because Flynn took the bullet for Pence?

Keep in mind Trump already knew by this point in time about the Obama administration spying on him. He knew his entire presidency and the MAGA agenda was going to involve fighting the Deep State Swamp on multiple fronts. Mueller's attack on Flynn would be one of these fronts. If Trump did not promise Flynn that he would cover all his legal fees in exchange for Flynn fighting back to defend his name, then IMO that was a major tactical error on Trump's part.

[Old Lurker]

Hrts "so figured he'd counter-strike by piling on to Flynn's associates."

Probably.

And that just confirms why I am so certain that Equal Justice for All has devolved into "Beria" territory in the US.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

I wonder if those Turkish assicates of Flynn are working on the Gulen case.

Erdogan is all in on becoming the new Sultan just as Putin wants to be the new Czar and Xi the new Emperor.

Against this backdrop, the Establishment is trying to crush the people who have reacted by voting for populist, conservative candidates. Soon it will be "for our own good"

We really are heading for Airstrip One, Oceania and Eurasia if we're not careful.

[Buckeye]

I have often thought that certain lawyers took up that profession because they weren't good enough looking to take the Stormy Daniels route

My apologies to the other kinds of lawyers.

[Narciso79]

He teamed up back on the day to purge the Turkish state using the grey wolves fairy tale, when he was through Erdogan had one competitor.

So now we're all friendly with the Turks, were printing all their black propaganda even they are tight with Hamas and al queda.

[D]

TomR:
No one is angry and no one was attacking you.
I will remember in the future that you are sensitive and respond accordingly.
I disagree with you.
That is all.
I also do not believe this is some military operation with Flynn on board which you have posited.
I believe the information in the article Clarice has written.
I am not comfortable with the reference to DOT who has not posted here in years.
He is no longer here to defend himself.
JUB:
Glad the pups are back.

[clarice]

No doubt in my mind that big media is on the side of Iran and Turkey/

[Narciso79]

And who are Gulens lobbyists, this turk Khomeini is no shrinking violet, now erdogans chief religious authority inspired the end who shot the Russian ambassador and Erdogan gives sanctuary to an wu Qaeda financier.

[D]

HRT:
Very good point!
Just like Mueller firing back that Flynn should have known not to lie.
I love it because Mueller is on defense now.
These latest indictments are his lame attempt to get back on offense.
Most Americans want this done and him gone.

[Pinandpuller]

I had a dream last night that Beard Ted Cruz was evil.

Politifact rated it as "Mostly True."

[Threadkiller]

why didn't Trump (or one of his kids) agree to donate enough money to Flynn's legal defense fund so that his legal fees would be fully covered?

Because the Trump's had no idea what dirt would come out against Flynn. Right now Flynn's associates appear to be under the microscope. Why would Trump or his family tie themselves to the extended possible investigations or charges?

What if Flynn liked little boys and that came out after Trump dropped a million bucks?

[henry]

More on "deregulation":

Frank Scavo
@fscavo

New Data Integrity Guidance Imposes Significant Burdens, Yet FDA Claims It Does Not Regulate by Guidance fdalawblog.net/2018/12/new-da…
10:51am · 17 Dec 2018 · Twitter for iPhone

http://www.fdalawblog.net/2018/12/new-data-integrity-guidance-imposes-significant-burdens-yet-fda-claims-it-does-not-regulate-by-guidance/

Another example is the requirement that ALL data generated and recorded in all drug facilities be “attributable” (meaning ascribed to a particular individual in the facility) as described by answer 1(a) and footnote 5. Yet, again the regulatory citations for this requirement are sorely lacking.

also rules out automated data collection. but the swamp does swamp things.

[Tom R]

I can't tell Gulen from a random crash test dummy. He's an enemy of Erdogan is about all I know about him.,

Aren't they both considered dirtbags?

[Threadkiller]

I am not comfortable with the reference to DOT who has not posted here in years.
He is no longer here to defend himself.

Tough.

[Pinandpuller]

Martha's mom pulled the letter out of her purse, along with a bottle of hot sauce, an airline bottle of tequila and a liter of soy sauce.

She said, "Losers get turned over to Customs and Bordwr Patrol."

[Pinandpuller]

henry

I'd like to know if it's clear what government Mueller is working for.

[Account Deleted]

"
Think of how much time Flynn's lawyers have spent reviewing the documents turned over to them by Mueller and preparing memes and then court appearances."

Exactly right, clarice. and, is there not some kind of requisite response needed by the defense (administrative anyway)on each filing...processing, processing, processing.

and each piece of the process requires a service deployment by the firm AT A PROFIT. so the $30 an hour assistant (non-loya) is billed at what? $30? no way hose A. :D

There have been at least 56 filings by Mueller, obviously more:

http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/17/heres-whats-weird-robert-muellers-latest-michael-flynn-filing/

[Narciso79]

Yes that's what I'm pointing out.

[Account Deleted]

Did Tom R bring up DoT?

[Narciso79]

What ever part hydra controls.

[Account Deleted]

Tx for settling that question for me, TK. :D

[Old Lurker]

Maryrose, long, long after I am dead and gone I trust that future JOMers will be saying "Back in the day, long long ago, I wish our parents had listened to Old Lurker".

[Account Deleted]

OL: i get what you're saying. in this "reverse engineering" tiddly going on with Tom R, the hourly look is for discussion purposes only.

Kev

[Tom R]

Did Tom R bring up DoT?

Nope

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

We know Flynn was reportedly accused of being an unregistered Turkish agent at the start of this. We now know a couple of people he worked with were just indicted for that. We also know he cooperated with Mueller and has only been charged with lying about his meeting with the Russkie ambassador.

Occam is very resolutely telling us Flynn copped to what he did to avoid prosecution for what his associates are being charged with and that it would cost a lot of money for lawyers to shepherd him through that minefield.

Not much left to yak about IMO, except to point out that Flynn would probably be prosecuted by Mueller on the Turkish stuff if he were to ask Sullivan to toss his conviction, as copping to that crime was almost certainly a condition to prevent his prosecution on the other matter.

Am I missing something?

[MissMarple2]

Michael J. Morrison
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‏ @OfficeOfMike
2m2 minutes ago

Wondering if every MSM outlet registered as foreign agents, as far as I can tell they all want the United States to fail.

Who do they work for?
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[henry]

Ig, i read it that way too.

[Pinandpuller]

henry

What can Brown do for you?

He's too well known to be the "uncloaked" candidate the Dems have successfully put in the last "3D" presidents.

[D]

OL:
You are rapidly becoming one of my favorite posters.
I am a firm believer in common sense and Occam’s razor.
Some of these theories are pretty far out.
I rely on you, Clarice, Jimmyk
Tom Collins,Captain, Porch, Iggy, and Rocco and Henry for the down to earth analysis.
Many others are great like Dave in Mass and many others.

[Account Deleted]

"No one is angry and no one was attacking you."

LOL

Least Favorite Poster Boy thought bubble: "a gold pocket watch swinging in front of Tom R as he sits in a comfy chair with his eyes closed. what's really going on here? wake up, Tom R! wake up!"

priceless.

[Narciso79]

How often. Has there been a fara prosecution for failing to file, you can count them on one hand, he wrote an OP ed after thr election, that's what he was contractually obligated.

[Old Lurker]

Which just makes my point about the negotiated nature of Equal Justice these days, and where that will rot away the foundation of our society.

[MissMarple2]

Lamar Alexander has announced he will not be running for the Senate in 2020.

[James D.]

Not much left to yak about IMO, except to point out that Flynn would probably be prosecuted by Mueller on the Turkish stuff if he were to ask Sullivan to toss his conviction, as copping to that crime was almost certainly a condition to prevent his prosecution on the other matter.

And what, exactly, does Flynn's activities with Turkey have to do with an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election?

Not a freaking thing.

[Account Deleted]

i don't think i have enough "mickey" hats to go around, maryrose. :(

[D]

Iggy:
That makes sense to me.

[henry]

southpaw
@nycsouthpaw

Interesting sidelight: Flynn's deal, as written, didn't preclude him from being charged by EDVA in the case unsealed today. Although the conduct is described in his Statement of Offense, Flynn's plea deal was only with SCO. It expressly didn't bind any other US Attorney's office.

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1074706277035581444

[Old Lurker]

Thx MR.

Usually I am aware when I have tried too hard to make my points, but when I do forget, I get reminded pretty quickly. Been married a long time!

[Account Deleted]

sigh. okay. back to the next prison camp project on today's list. clearing the guest room of non-essential (employees...no wait!) stuff.

[Narciso79]

I didn't know lamar!! Was still in the Senate.

[Tom R]

Occam is very resolutely telling us Flynn copped to what he did to avoid prosecution for what his associates are being charged with and that it would cost a lot of money for lawyers to shepherd him through that minefield.

Am I missing something?

What about Gulen's connection to the Clinton Foundation?

https://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/

[Account Deleted]

"everything Mueller" has to do with his report that will go to the "new" Congress, namely the HOR, to use as a road map for impeachment. that's according to Rachel Maddow.

yeah. really.

[Narciso79]

Yes you need to kill at least 5 people to get that get out of jail fee card.

[D]

JamesDDo true.
But when you have a runaway Special Counsel anything goes.
This is Comey’s revenge on President Trump for firing his sorry rear end.
The article by Jonathan Turkey today tells you exactly who Comey is and what he has done.

[MissMarple2]

https://nypost.com/2018/12/17/port-authority-to-change-nightmare-holiday-decorations-over-holland-tunnel/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

[clarice]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/do_americans_really_worry_about_the_nonshutdown_government_shutdown.html

[Threadkiller]

I am not comfortable with the reference to James Comey who has not posted here ever.
He is not here to defend himself.