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December 12, 2018

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Jack is Back!

Jacob Rees-Mogg brings it home. Let it burn.

jimmyk

Paying off bimbos is not a crime.

Precisely, and the only point of getting Cohen to plead guilty to this imaginary crime is to be able then to go after Trump. Complete BS.

matt - deplore me if you must

We have seen a series of fishing expeditions and witch hunts for the past two years and look to see more coming. This is a perversion of the law. The real criminals have gotten off scot-free.

Pinandpuller

As a mater of fact, 100 pit bulls couldn't drag me away.

Dave (in MA)

lyle | December 12, 2018 at 05:47 PM

Typos are one thing, but things like the Globe's [More Mush from the Wimp] or the WaPo's [SPECIFIC MEDICAL CAUSE OF DEATH, said/according to xxx] take it to another level.

clarice

OK, Jane--thanks for the tip off.

clarice

I really really want Sullivan to throw out the Flynn pleas, excoriate the prosecution and set up a prosecutorial abuse case for Flynn.

Jack is Back!

FU pin. You seem to be the blog asshole I have always thought you were. Another noboby trying unsuccessfuly to be somebody driving around the country as some kind of transient hero. But being everyman delivering Propane. LOL.

Guess what you are, asshole a fucking nuicense.. At least I am the first to figure you out. Maybe not.

Extraneus

Michael Cohen slams Trump as he’s sentenced to 3 years in prison

Cohen, 52, shook his head and shut his eyes as he learned his fate, while daughter Samantha Cohen gasped and wept.

Once court was adjourned, Cohen consoled his daughter — who was allowed to sit in the well, behind her dad, because she’s walking with crutches. He then hugged and kissed his son, Jake, who burst into tears after approaching from the gallery with his mom, Laura.

Cohen has until March 6 to report to prison.

Captain Hate

Why did Meeka apologize to Little Dick Turdbin?

Tom R

Tom, if you don't believe 3 years of legal fees hasn't destroyed Flynn, you've never hired a lawyer.

I believe the point I made was that, based on the comment of someone who claims to be personal friends with Flynn, he didn't sell his house because he needed the money to pay for legal fees.

What I do know about lawyers is that most of them bill by the hour. I certainly have no idea how many hours Flynn's lawyer spent working on his case for the past 2 year. I doubt anyone here knows the answer to that either.

Extraneus

Interesting tune, Dave.

daddy


I really really want Sullivan to throw out the Flynn pleas, excoriate the prosecution and set up a prosecutorial abuse case for Flynn.

Posted by: clarice

Yippie, Clarice. Boy does that hearten me.

I doubt he'll do it but I love being on the same page as you:)

And whatever scallops Jane don't eat please save for me.

Captain Hate

With that said if it turns out that I am correct about Mueller (and Rosenstein) actually working with Trump and not against him, then obviously that scenario changes everything about Flynn's inexplicable admission of guilt when he didn't even commit a crime in the first place.

Since this is what you believe, your prior slams on Flynn were disingenuous.

Lastly, Extraneus' advice at 4:56 is good advice.

Agreed.

clarice

Why does that hearten you, daddy? It's only my wish. I cannot think of anything elser to stop this crap..and I do not see Wray changing any of the operations there..you know, like canning the 302s and using video interrogations like the rest of the civilized world.

henry

May isn’t the only one that promised to pull out early in order to stay in power a bit longer:

WSJ

Nancy Pelosi struck a deal with detractors that sets a term limit on her speakership, which may yield enough votes to win the post

Pinandpuller

How does anyone know when the 302's were signed?

https://vault.fbi.gov/fbi-communication-on-discovery-of-hillary-clinton-e-mails-on-anthony-weiners-laptop-computer/fbi-communication-on-discovery-of-hillary-clinton-e-mails-on-anthony-weiners-laptop-computer-part-01-of-01/

daddy

Narciso, Dan Fagan back on local Talk Radio. Instantly recognized his voice. Dont know if he is just sitting in or if has a new Show

lurkersusie

Votes coming her way

Rebecca Kaplan
Rebecca Kaplan
@RebeccaRKaplan
NEWS: Pelosi announces she has struck a deal to institute term limits for senior leadership positions. They can serve 3 terms with an additional term with two-thirds support in caucus. Includes two terms already served from 2007 to 2011.

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Pelosi chooses a fresh pair of cement shoes. They can always sack her sorry ass. Right?

Pinandpuller

What I do know about lawyers is that most of them bill by the hour. I certainly have no idea how many hours Flynn's lawyer spent working on his case for the past 2 year. I doubt anyone here knows the answer to that either.

Posted by: Tom R | December 12, 2018 at 06:21 PM

If the first hour he paid for was during the FBI interview, well, you know about for want of a lawyer his house was lost.

daddy

Why does that hearten you, daddy?

Because it makes me know I'm not crazy. So often as a non Lawyer I look at stuff and what seems self evident to me I find is 180 degrees opposite of how highly educated Lawyers view the same situation. You sharing my opinion of Sullivan gives me hope that maybe even he might have the same opinion as well. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.

How odd if a DC Judge actually did the right thing!

Pinandpuller

I bet you Flynn never puts his hand on a cold stove again.

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Now,now Jack.

We've been down this road before and it required emotional triage for you offline. Remember?

i consider Pin a friend as well as many others here, even you.

so as your friend, i'm asking you to check your HALT gauges and reconsider using your .50 cals on somebody who has garnered some attention, in a most humorous way.

H.ungry?
A.ngry?
L.onely?
T.ired?

mocking a fellow JOMers station in life, as you did mine and some others ("...you consider walking down the sidewalk as having life experience") during your last butt rash outbreak, is unbecoming to you, a man of such worldly experiences with a ROLODEX of Who's Who in your world of the rich, famous and powerful.

it's almost as if you lack confidence in who you have become in your dotage. only you know for sure.

See where i am going with this?

yes, Pin is quite capable of defending himself.

but i've elected to speak up on principle: it doesn't matter who speaks like that to another human being.

i'm your huckleberry.

have a nice evening. i hope you're reunited with your son (and his mom if she's elsewhere at the moment) really soon.

later on then.

Kev

Pinandpuller

Actually Jack, I was sent back in time to fuck with you.

Mission Accomplished.

Pinandpuller

You know Jack, I may be an asshole but at least I can afford my own air compressor.

I really hope you treat your fuel oil delivery guy with less disdain but I'm not holding my breath.

rse

Totally off topic, but relative flying home today had to return to the gate because passenger had smuggled a pit bull on board in her carry-on.

Jack is Back!

Well, Fuck you also KK. All you special people commenting constantly on here as if you need a fucking counselor of something can get a lttle to agrrovating. But you and JiminNJ, Pin, yourself wouldn't know about thhe at, you are a fucking presence whether we want it or not.

The great JOM has become overwhelming by 3 vomiting posters with nothing to contribute. I am taking a haitus since it is fucking obvious it is not the same place DOT and I visited for a reason. He was right. It is a cessool.

Jack is Back!

I can't leave without a shout out to Mr. Pin.

You are a fucking asshole guy. You pretend to be something you are not. But then for simple people like you, that is usally a given. Good night and have a great day.

Extraneus

Sheesh.

Extraneus

Port Authority will let voters decide on OCD-unfriendly Holland Tunnel decorations

(Click to open pic.)

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Here's P&P's link - https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/doctors-cite-climate-change-rise-animal-bites-u-s-health-n947086

Climate Change, what can't it do!?

Dave (in MA)

It can't conform to any of the alarmists' models, for one.

Pinandpuller

ROLODEX of Who's Who in your world of the rich, famous and powerful.

Posted by: Kevlar Kid | December 12, 2018 at 07:08 PM

So what? I've got a nice watch too.

Dave (in MA)

Somebody needs a

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Look at this goofiness....

"Numerous animal species have the potential to bite humans; however, the most important are those arising from snakes, dogs, cats and monkeys."

How are bites 'important'?

monkeys??????

anonamom

Just a hiatus?

A cesspool, but he'll come back??


Pinandpuller

You know what money can't buy?

My silence.

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Do a lot of poor people own monkeys?

henry

I would rank mosquitoes and ticks as a bigger bite problem.

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((It can't conform to any of the alarmists' models, for one.))

Hah!

The Infamous Ignatz

Concur with Ext;
Sheesh.

anonamom

It's not the first time.
He lashed out at Jane about three months ago, just as viciously.

Extraneus

My mother's uncle's wife had a monkey, diaper and all.

And also at least 5 Chihuahuas, one of whom I was bitten by as a child.

This particular uncle fought in WWII and was somehow messed up in the process. But his wife, Aunt Marilyn, had the monkey and Chihuahuas.

anonamom

I am definitely going to keep an eye out for monkeys from now on.

Extraneus

I should mention this for posterity, but the uncle I spoke of, who had been in real battles in WWII and was permanently affected, was a butcher, as were his brothers, and I worked in a deli that he worked at, when he was called in to butcher a side of beef.

It was my Aunt's deli, and they got a half of beef sometimes and Uncle Jim would come and butcher it. His brothers were all butchers and one of them became a pretty rich guy.

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JiB,

you're nothing if not entertaining.

"Well, Fuck you also KK. All you special people commenting constantly on here as if you need a fucking counselor of something can get a lttle to agrrovating. But you and JiminNJ, Pin, yourself wouldn't know about thhe at, you are a fucking presence whether we want it or not."

well, fuck me. i seem to recall a wounded little boy simpering about how he "can't even talk about his Purple Heart on here...."

and, wasn't it i who offered to help you out with this internalized inferiority which seems to leak out after weeks of your incessant reference to drinking alcohol?

and wasn't it i who offered for the sake of that perfect young man you are trying to raise so late in life?

if somehow i've violated this blog by posting how and how much i post, i apologize without shame to fellow denizens of JOM. LO SIENTO! Please forgive me.

yet, to you Jack, i ask how is it that you need to quote DoT, someone who obviously excelled in every category of being a human being, to make your point: you don't like what JOM has become.

did DoT lob F-bombs at people he felt superior to?

i know he didn't.

you behave like the kid who takes poison and hopes the object of his disdain dies. how absurd.

if you decide that we are just too intolerable--- jim-nj, Pin, and KK--- so you must leave, just agree that you'll change your moniker to something more accurate: JackIsBackIsBackIsBack...that's JiBiBiBiB.

Later on then, Jack. Stay safe.

Your Pal,

Kev

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monkey and meat in the same story. what's not to love.

GUS

The little guy sure has thin skin.

Extraneus

So I haven't read any more since my last post, but in the walk-in fridge, Mom's Uncle Jim did his thing with Aunt Nettie's side of beef.

(I'm drinking, somewhat like Jack, so cut me some slack.)

The guy was so accurate that I brought it up, and asked how he got so good. He looked at me, and my cousin who is since deceased, and then...

Took out his dick and put it on the chopping block and chopped down very hard several times with a cleaver, not a 1/4 inch away.

I'm not lying.

jim nj

What'd I do?

jim nj

Thanks for the shout out, I think.

Threadkiller

I'm glad the new format of signing in worked as well as Scrolling On By* used to.

*I still SOB posts that I find valueless which works out well for both the poster and the scroller. No fights.

Destiny all...

anonamom

Beats me.
I'm still trying to figure out what it was that made him go off on jane three months ago.

Maybe it's the way you capitalize or use commas or something.

Threadkiller

I'm still wondering if you digitally diagnosed the wrong commenter for explosive disorders, amom.

The Infamous Ignatz

Michael Cohen Pled Guilty to Something That Is Not a Crime

Threadkiller

Geese, Ext. What a crazy dude!

Since we are down to locker room talk, one of my biker buddies, Hog Dick, would initiate newbies by betting them that he would drive a 16 penny nail through his pecker.

They would bet big money to see this. Hog Dick would lay his junk out on the table, set the nail, and pound that sucker right through the tip and not bat an eye.

After he collected his winnings he would explain that his crank was decorativly pierced years earlier at that spot.. No pain, big gain.

GUS

The debate about Flynn pleading guilty is understandable. I certainly get the point about fighting for your honor, rather than settling with a plea. I certainly understand Ig's comments, and I certainly understand how passionate Ignatz is about the situation he endured personally and financially. For any of us who have been here a long long time, it is patently obvious that Ignatz is a strong passionate principled individual. Ig has been through a lot and has a HEART as big as a HOUSE. Ig is tough, smart, and will give every bit as good as he gets. Not so long ago, I got into a squabble with Ignatz, and it was really not worth being shitty about, but I was a lesser person than I should have been. A short while later, Ig told me that it was no big deal and that he and I had a decent history. That taught me something about Ig, and it taught me something about me. Flynn is being railroaded. Mueller's own SWAMP BUDDIES including McCabe (who himself certainly needs several years in prison for corrupting the people who are supposed to be the cleanest) said that Flynn didn't lie. Either he lied about something that could be objectively discussed/proven...or he didn't. Rolling the dice on whether you are going to serve a long time in jail, after a LIFE of SERVICE to AMERICA has to be gut wrenching. Our friend Tom R. recently said he saw nothing that indicated (to his satisfaction), that FLYNN'S SON, was used to coerce Flynn to succumb to MUELLER'S corruption. I have a son, Pin has a son, Jack has a son, Ignatz has a son, Miss M has a son, MANY of US have a son. MUELLER does not have a son, nor does he have a CONSCIENCE nor CHARACTER. He is a paid hit man. There is NOTHING, that I would not do for my son. NOTHING. Flynn had little recourse considering the state of our DOJ/FBI and CORRUPT JUDGES. To think that COMEY/RODHAM/McCABE/STRZOK/PAGE/MILLS/SUSAN RICE/SAMANTHA POWER/BEN RHODES/NELLIE+BRUCE OHR/
HUMA ABEDIN...ETC ETC ...to think that they will pay any price for the CRIMES they have committed is silly. Who would FLYNN turn to for JUSTICE.
Going forward, who can YOU any of US, THINK has the power and ability to bring this MESS to JUSTICE???

A war is coming.

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Dammit, Jim, you need a counselor :D

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((Took out his dick and put it on the chopping block and chopped down very hard several times with a cleaver, not a 1/4 inch away.))

Can we somehow blame climate change?

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((What'd I do?))


Hahahaa!

clarice

Looks like Judge Sullivan is not going to let my hopes down:https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/12/12/hold-the-phone-on-flynn-sentencing-judge-emmet-sullivan-has-questions/?fbclid=IwAR0fKAf9DJlu7fwjp-gCjJTRGzkHeD_GzvF7Gmdoo3Kkt4E0P1ZXGIEwZE8

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The upside of piercing one's johnson is what again?

Narciso79

An odd emotional support animal, I think monkeys would he more likely to scratch (If i recall outbreak correctly)

lurkersusie

Someone is paying attention

Sean Davis
@seanmdav
The latest minute orders from Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, who is overseeing Michael Flynn's case, seem like a big deal. Sullivan just ordered the original Strzok/Pientka memos on the Flynn interview and the official FBI 302, filed 7 months later, to be filed with the court.

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1073002272416772097

Threadkiller

Can we somehow blame climate change?

LOL!

Good thing he didn't put it next to a windmill. They never miss..

Threadkiller

Winning bets, KK.

:-)

Narciso79

Sean Davis figured out that last memo was after the Rosenstein memo and after strzok had been reassigned,

The Infamous Ignatz

I should have stated earlier of course that Flynn regardless of what he does has infinitely more honor than Mule-ears.
Mule knows the "irregularities" to put it mildly with the entire thing and yet has dishonorably dangled Flynn around like a naked, headless Barbie doll* on a shoe string for over a year.

*While taking a shower one evening my ~9 year old daughter sneaked into the bathroom and tossed a decapitated, naked Barbie on a noose over the shower curtain, presumably to give me some type of Don Corleone warning.
I slept with one eye open for the next several nights.

Pinandpuller

MUELLER does not have a son, nor does he have a CONSCIENCE nor CHARACTER. He is a paid hit man.

Posted by: GUS | December 12, 2018 at 08:18 PM

Is there a Roberta J Mueller Juniorette?

The Infamous Ignatz

Reading Gus's @ 8:18 prompts me to apologize to Threadkiller - with an explanation.
TK you have a way of not letting go of something and subtly needling people with it on a continuing basis.
Regardless I shouldn't have criticized you as I did or said what I said, and I'm sorry I did. I apologize.

Just don't needle me anymore. :)

Tom R

Our friend Tom R. recently said he saw nothing that indicated (to his satisfaction), that FLYNN'S SON, was used to coerce Flynn to succumb to MUELLER'S corruption

I will stick to principle on that. All the citations making the claim Mueller threatened Flynn’s son are citing anonymous sources. When Flynn himself, his son, his lawyer, or someone directly connected to Flynn confirm that is why Flynn agreed to plead guilty to a crime he didn’t commit then I will change my opinion.

Pinandpuller


What'd I do?

Posted by: jim nj | December 12, 2018 at 08:04 PM

You posted in the HOV lane before 6PM.

matt - deplore me if you must

Having spent millions of dollars on needless litigation it is a tool that is a means to an end. The rich are able to afford more law than most, and the government more than anyone. If there were real justice, both sides would have equal recourse to resources and argue cases based on the merits rather than legal subterfuge.

100 page filings mean lots of billable hours. We had litigation in Korea years ago and knew we were going to lose but we burned the other side so bad they lost a huge amount of face. Our goal was accomplished.

DA's use the big hammer every day in order to get high conviction rates, which helps with re-election. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people doing wrong, but it is a part and parcel of the game.

In the corporate world it is a tool used often to crush competition. Negotiation is a much better alternative, but egos often get in the way.

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Mueller is steering the investigation.

Another Bob

“What name did I call Flynn?”

I believe it was some reference to a lack of honor?

Everyone’s moved on and I will too.

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Mueller married into the Dick family. no joke.

Narciso79

Well that escalated quickly, the Flynn travismickasham was similar to that against colonel north, although he was able to defend himself one of his leading defenders mr Montes Bradley was curiously silenced in the last two weeks

Another Bob

“is it okay for me to insult Mika Brezinski?”

OK by me KK. Fire away. Looking forward to it.

Dave (in MA)
Flynn travismickasham
I'm offended.
Another Bob

Concur with Ext and Ig;
Sheesh.

Narciso79

I bLame autocucumber, like with north he followed a president's orders and then was thrown under the bus. In the formers case it was keeping the Nicaraguan resistance intact, the means were left to his discretion.

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A-Bob: :D i asked retroactively! -Kev

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faith n' beggorah! so am i, Dave :D

jimmyk

Here's a lede that would have been hard to anticipate, and we may never see again:

An academic conference on sex with robots has been cancelled due to a backlash against a proposed speech by Steve Bannon....

The world has gone mad.

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will there be robots that look like Steve Bannon?

jim nj

https://www.ajc.com/news/why-atlanta-felt-earthquake-that-struck-tennessee/pLFA3va5UjMlWRwitvB1TO/

Narciso79

What was your first clue?

Now north operated against the idiocy of the boland amendment not merely as stupid as the cooper church amendment or the war powers act but close.

daddy

So the 302's had not previously been filed with the Court. Imagine that.

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somehow "the draft 302s" were destroyed.

the old "dog ate my homework" play. brilliant.

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I want to know the status of Whitaker's decision to open up the Cassandra investigation (Hezbollix' drug trade op that was given cover by the Rat's shutting down Cassandra before leaving office).

Threadkiller

TK you have a way of not letting go of something and subtly needling people with it on a continuing basis.
Regardless I shouldn't have criticized you as I did or said what I said, and I'm sorry I did. I apologize.

I always appreciate an apology, but there is nothing you have done that I am referring to here. I think we settled our dispute some time ago. We are solid.

The "explosive disorder" needling is just for amom's benefit from when she jumped into the middle of a fight and lashed out with namecalling, finger pointing, and I don't know whatall.

You came to my defense when she wanted to paint me up as akin to your brother.

I've always appreciated that even though I did overstep some decency I should have given you since then.

jim nj

https://nypost.com/2018/12/12/bones-found-in-li-basement-identified-as-missing-dad/

The dad went missing in 1961.

Narciso79

Well they indicted a Hezbollah financier the other day tajadeen (sic)

daddy

"is it okay for me to insult Mika Brezinski?”

sure, and especially since weare talking about cranks in the thread above, you may recall my recent posting that The WaPo Religion Editor sally Quinn got in trouble way eay bqck when by writing a story she had to pull bakc thst Mika's dad exposed himself to her at a Cocktail Party in DC, so have at it.

clarice

Iggy, really? A decapitated doll? I love that girl.

peter

I am working a lot lately and do a lot more lurking than posting, but I do find the squabbling disconcerting, and would urge all to err on the side of forgiveness. Jack's a good man, and a veteran. Who knows if he something that was posted triggered a long ago trauma? Yes, he has lashed out at people here seemingly without cause, but still...
The old Scroll on By is available to all..

Narciso79

And Sally Quinn turned out to a practicing wiccan, who had placed a fatal spell on an ex boyfriend

So the pla ruling council retaliated against Canada by holding one of their diplomats one of whom.was a member of Robert malleys icg

Tom R

Gowdy is on Fox tonight getting interviewed by Martha McCallum. He stated he met Trump for the first time this week. Makes me wonder if he interviewed for the Chief of Staff job.

daddy

somehow "the draft 302s" were destroyed.

If only the FBI Agents had been aware that there were rules against that:(

I am sure Christopher Wray will call for an Agency wide training seminar after Flynn is in Jail.

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