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December 15, 2018

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Tom R

KK @6:07

The idea that Flynn engineered a sting operation was originally proposed by Thomas Wictor. Anything I post here in that regards would be copy/pasting Wictor's points. I will say that the Solomon report this week that the DIA has exculpatory evidence on Flynn in their possession reinforced the notion of a Flynn engineered sting operation. I think you shared a similar sentiment

GUS

Kev, I don't pretend to speak for you, but LITTLE TOM is correct. ""Don't you think people whose minds are made up and treat their assumptions as facts can correctly be labeled "close minded"?"""

Yes Little Tom. You ARE close minded. And I know why.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA


CH: "Nancy Wilson RIP"
Another Bob: "Not the Heart Nancy Wilson FYI."

OK, which one then?

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

Never mind, I looked it up.

Account Deleted

"Don't you think people whose minds are made up and treat their assumptions as facts can correctly be labeled "close minded"?"


Tom R: your useage of "you", as you asserted "it requires you to have an open mind", when directed my way means "moi"... so your question is moot.
here's why.

but if you must know my view on "closed-minded"--- it is the hyper-judgmental minded one who is "closed-minded."

a one-dimensional casting of 'open or shut' of other peoples' minds isn't useful.

your views don't make you "open-minded" and others who don't share them don't make them "close-minded."

if there is any part of your motive in sharing what you understand (the way that you understand this situation) that involves *being understood*, then you must practice persuasion with each argument you make.

period.

RG practiced some persuasion this morning re GUS, when he spoke of Mueller being a Marine and a jumper.

he was persuasive by explaining how his thinking is wired re benefit of the doubt for military men and non-military men. (Benedict Arnold was a soldier too i might add.) i added that to the "plausible conjecture" stack. and when it all plays out "human being Mueller" will be better understood.

otherwise, sans persuasiveness in your argument, your expectation is for your searing logic to impress another to respond with "Ya. Yer right. i have no choice but to obey the prescriptions that you....blah blah blah."

it won't. and castigations, even in jest---such as what RG does with the nines and dozens he likes to do (entertaining as they might be), which follow, directed at those not in agreement with the view, are in effect silliness in the face of an egregious situation.

others have pointed out where your logic seizes due to lack of oil, and the argument grinds to a halt somewhere in the weeds. (please don't make me do the heavy lifting here. if you're interested in citations, the JOM archives will provide illustrations.)

the point: the open-mind, closed-mind door swings both ways. entiendes?

i know for a fact, based on life experiences with my Paw-- a guy who had a made up mind and had an entire code made up of assumptions, who has undergone dramatic changes because he realized he could process information beyond his intellectual borders. as he aged, he saw his newly found peer-group (Appalachian Trail Club members), most who were older than himself, do so; and, they had been doing so-- some for 30 years after they retired.

here's the rub: Paw's kids-- every damned one of us--- had closed minds about Paw. at his 80th birthday party we each took a turn congratulating him on how much he had changed, and how wonderful his life had turned out. he thanked US for having changed our view of him---"a man who couldn't and wouldn't change."

humbling. two way street.

so, your question is moot for me.

Kev

Tom R

SIAP

https://themarketswork.com/2018/12/14/new-fbi-302-document-appears-to-reveal-interview-with-agents-not-flynn/

bubarooni

"... is he OK with watching the Butler Bulldog's beat his Hoosiers like step-children?"

Fake news!

Go Hoosiers!

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

If I am following the back-and-forth needling, then
1) Tom R and RG are saying that Trump has things well in hand and doesn't need our help
2) kk OL and others are saying there is no obvi evidence that things are well in hand but are not suggesting any way we can help

Takeaway: no one is suggesting any action that we should consider taking. Everyone should continue to sit on the couch, watch sports and complain about how things are run.

Captain Hate

Gus, the Rat is never more unmasked than speaking off script. All the butt boys (not lifted from Low IQ Meeka) who said his IQ is off the charts look like idiots when the stuttering imbecile can't even match the subject and verb.

GUS

Daddy, your Elizabeth Warren, "Cherokee" post, is more telling than most people GRASP.

Is it not clearly obvious, that ELIZABETH WARREN, has been a DISHONEST, self promoting HUSTLER, through-out her LAW TEACHER.....career?

Seriously. When did intelligent, critical thinking, skeptical people stop coming to obvious conclusions about LYING HACKS, when the HACKS exposed themselves and their ambitions???

Warren sought a job a PENN, and in Warren's apps and interviews and cover story, she was a PERSON of COLOR. She created her INJUN persona, by merely claiming, that her MOTHER, had told her that SHE HAD HIGH CHEEK BONES. Follow the fucking LIE. This became OKLAHOMA, CHEROKEES, POW WOW CHOW, and even later this LIBTARD COMMIE LYING BITCH, asked POTUS DJT, if he was CALLING HER MOTHER A LIAR.

Typical LIBTARD DEFLECTION/DODGE. The MFM, will NEVER and HAS NEVER, asked WHAT LIE, did MR TRUMP accuse LIE-A-WATHA'S mommy of telling.

The COLLEGE CROWD, the FULL COMMIE AYERS EDUCATED PROPAGANDIZED CROWD, has been TAUGHT to ATTACK those who DISAGREE, rather than ENGAGE THEM.
They know nothing else.

BIRTHER, TRUTHER, HIGH CHEEK BONER!!! Hahahahaha.

Account Deleted

Jeb Bush is the mid-belly tit on a boar.

peter

don't hold back, Gus.

Tom R

KK @ 6:45

your views don't make you "open-minded" and others who don't share them don't make them "close-minded."

What makes me open minded is I am willing to consider all the evidence and various paths of logic it can take you. There are a few people here who do not demonstrate that ability.

I said a long time ago that its possible Trump's tweets about the Mueller witch hunt could be what he really thinks and that Mueller is a Black Hat trying to destroy him.

What the people who dislike me the most won't admit is that Trump's tweets about the Mueller SC might not be his true feelings and instead are serving as a form of deception. Knowing that Trump is a disciple of Sun Tzu is what creates that possibility.

Another Bob

RG, maybe I’ll open a new front...

Do you believe Trump & allies are the smarter people in the room? If so (and it seems you do), do you think the progs/swamp know this by now?

If the answers are yes and yes, don’t we have to assume that the swamp has enlisted some help? Can/does TrumpCo escalate the arms race without limit?

Another Bob

“I am willing to consider all the evidence and various paths of logic”

LOLOL

Threadkiller

What makes me open minded is I am willing to consider all the evidence and various paths of logic it can take you.

Here is a path.

Trump makes a plethora of negative comments about Sessions.

Sessions writes a resignation letter that states that he was asked to leave.

Sessions leaves.

Threadkiller

What makes me open minded is I am willing to consider all the evidence and various paths of logic it can take you.

Here is a path.

Trump makes a plethora of negative comments about Sessions.

Sessions writes a resignation letter that states that he was asked to leave.

Sessions leaves.

GUS

Capn, the anal ysts, who have had creamed jeans, and thrills up their legggings, are of ZERO interest to me. These MFM/FULL COMMIE constructs, are generally NANCY BOYS and BUTCH GIRLS, who have NEVER existed outside the bounds of SKOOLS and KOLLEGE'S, whose entire make-up, is RE-EDUCATION, MIS-EDUCATION and NON-EDUCATION.
Capn, as you know, my beloved SON, is about to graduate from theeee BEST H.S. in WISCONSIN. As a practicing, faithful, critical thinking and skeptical CATHOLIC and FATHER, I have some REAL problems, even with MARQUETTE UNIVERITY High School. For example. Instruction on SOCIAL JUSTICE. Fucking nonsense, it's LIBTARDS enforcing their own sense of VIRTUE SIGNALING.
Another PRIME example, was the MEXICAN KIDS and a couple media savvy parents, CREATING an issue of BULLYING by TRUMP SUPPORTERS the day after TRUMPS victory. UTTER FUCKING NONSENSE and CRY BULLING.
HISPANIC KIDS, accusing CATHOLIC BOYS of HATING and BULLYING them. UTTER BULLSHIT. What did the ADMIN DO????

I'll let you guess.

The Infamous Ignatz

--Takeaway: no one is suggesting any action that we should consider taking. Everyone should continue to sit on the couch, watch sports and complain about how things are run.--

Bingo; though the main occupation here now seems to be complaining about how someone else is complaining about how things are run.

Another Bob

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA | December 15, 2018 at 06:49 PM

I’m in group two. What actions to you suggest?

Captain Hate

Gus, is John Carroll no longer being considered?

Account Deleted

Yes, Tom R.

i have put the "Trump's Spooks" information on the plausible pile. But it doesn't mean i am compelled to eat any more of the pie you're serving.

Also, i'm unwilling to credit Flynn with engineering the sting.

He's the bait.

I find it more likely that he's handled, coached, and supported by shadows in the DOD along with the money pools they've concealed for contingency purposes.

Flynn might have been head of DIA, but he relies on a huge cadre of accomplished pros to get things done.

i can't quite believe that Flynn would have the time to engineer such an operation---nor would he be gaming for this scenario long term. so it's a cast of many.

I've chosen a non-adversarial posture in this discussion because lower blood pressure is a win for me. So my hope is that this isn't taken as a retort or an escalation, or taking up for somebody else who may have similar views to mine.

It's why i remain on MY Deck in all of this. i can be ecclectic.

Plus, i would like to engage in discussion and step out from under the cloud of "too much squabbling" that seems to hold sway if there is back and forth on a point which exceeds three rounds.

That's all.

Kev

The Infamous Ignatz

TomR's 6:46 link has a lot of interesting information, most of which undermines the idea Mule-ears told the judge to eff off.

It also contains this interesting tweet by Flynn's sister which I'm not sure I completely understand the logic of, but she presumably has more knowledge than most;

“One thing that people/so-called reporters ask-why did he lie?

Did Anyone Ever consider that information He had was Top Secret! And could Not be shared with some random FBI idiots!!”


Captain Hate

Enough squabbling!

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1432/108119/

Account Deleted

"identity" "identification" "identify"... key words in the Oppression Olympics of the victim political class.

Marxist philosophy requires an "aggrieved class."

a "weaponized aggrieved class" receives an upgrade when the propaganda wing of a society roars into high gear commenting on every burp and fart of private life.

"the personal is political." and so is POW WOW CHOW.

Tom R

Also, i'm unwilling to credit Flynn with engineering the sting.
He's the bait.
I find it more likely that he's handled, coached, and supported by shadows in the DOD along with the money pools they've concealed for contingency purposes.

I'm perfectly fine if that scenario turns out to be true because it still supports the sting operation against the Deep State theory, which is the pie I am serving. It doesn't matter to me if Flynn, Trump, or someone else devised the scheme.

Now you have to ask yourself if Trump brought Mueller into the scheme and that was the primary topic of their private discussion the day before Mueller was appointed SC.

Jack is Back!

What if everyone is wrong? Think about that. It would receive better odds than all the rest of the guesses, predictions, forecasts and other novelties of predicition.

The Infamous Ignatz

Most of the "too much squabbling" seems to eventually come down to the mistaken belief any of the rest of us care about the results of assorted penile metrics which usually have only a tenuous relationship to either facts or opinions regarding politics.

daddy

Well I can't read the "smoke signals" as to why Brave Liz Warren guit being a "Brave" but it probably had something to do with her "Totem Pollster."

henry

I’m sure I’m wrong... though less wrong than everybody else.

Just kidding.

CH that looks to be a tasty brew.

Pinandpuller

Mueller's Hat

It's Not [White]

https://youtu.be/rCn80HADpto

I hate when my phone's history takes me to a dead thread

Tom R

TomR's 6:46 link has a lot of interesting information, most of which undermines the idea Mule-ears told the judge to eff off.

I didn't see anything in that article that indicates Mueller complied with the judges order and turned over the original 302 forms as he was directed to do.

clarice

Hi, JIB!

GUS

Capn, John Carroll is somewhat, in the running. The BOY has narrowed down his "future" vis a vis some metrics that only the "kid" can.
Carroll, and several other JESUIT schools are putting a HARD PRESS on, by offering monies, that were prolly already in play. The letters come daily. UW-M....My alma mater, has offered entry into the ENGINEERING and APPLIED SCIENCES SCHOOL... A very very good one......as a FRESHMAN, with a full ride. He's also been accepted to WISCONSIN/MINNESOTA, WI-LA CROSSE, and WI-PLATTEVILLE. All with SCHOLARSHIP money and ENGINEERING SCHOOLS.
His Cousin, my beloved niece, is a SOPHOMORE at the AIR FORCE ACADEMY, newly admitted to the AEROSPACE ENGINEERING program. That is my sons goal.
John Carroll has not been ruled out, BUT, the kid has reasons for his pecking order.

Jack is Back!

Hi, Clarice.

In The Dunes.

Just back from the Christmas party. Thinking about taking Frederick over to Sarasota to see Capt. Eric while he is down here then to his buddy in Key Biscayne. May fly him back to Hartford from there. If you and hubby are in the Key during Hannakuh/Christmas/New Year let me know.

Starting to warm up as you know. Been very iffy here as on the gulf coast.

Captain Hate

It is pretty good, henry. It's one I got in 2017 so I'm wondering if maybe the coffee has faded a bit; might have to snag a fresh one to compare. One thing I did right is let it warm up to room temperature before opening because a pet peeve of mine is how many breweries serve their big stouts too cold for the full taste to emerge.

Captain Hate

It's good to have choices, Gus.

GUS

Jack my brother. I think that most who speculate and come up with ridiculous theorems are WRONG.
Should I try to create a theory on 4-D or some other idea about how all of this will shake out, I'd probably be wrong.
Jack, you are quite intelligent and certainly very logical.
I once took my son to MADISON for an EDM concert at the ORPHEUM theater. He was supposed to meet a couple of H.S. pals inside at the MOSH PIT.
The crowd that entered, hung out outside and generally represented the young COLLEGE crowd, were FREAKS.
Later, I told the "boy", "if it looks like a freak show.....it's a freak show".

This ENTIRE Russia, FBI, Doj, Comey, Richman, Mueller FREAK SHOW, is a DODGE and DEFLECTION, and a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY to PROTECT those who TRULY ARE, and have been CRIMINALS.

It's obvious. Any other FOCUS or DEBATE is USELESS.

matt - deplore me if you must

If there was a sting it was the worst sting ever. Flynn's reputation has been forever stained and his conviction, even if it is bogus, has caused deep damage to him financially. Some sting.

As for the Super Bowl halftime show I am voting of Stormy Daniels and Lady GaGa. Let's really hammer a few nails in their coffins.

She can serenade Mueller with Poker Face.

lyle

My SOB finger is getting cramped from overuse.

Steamed king crab with drawn butter, greenleaf lettuce with homemade vinaigrette and a delightful Chablis.

I trust this qualifies as NOT 4 dee chess. I’m a simple man.

GUS

Capn, my Son, is the only offspring that I have.
He is a very very good student. I doubt that he is FREDERICK-esque, but then again, WHO IS?? I have 3 degrees. Sous chef, Undergrad Poli-sci and MBA.
My son's aptitudes are more technical and more desirable than mine ever were. I was a very very good student and NOT SO VERY DIFFICULT disciplines.
Having said all that, my BOY, is a very very very well rounded human being. He has taken nearly every AP or HONORS course available to him. THAT, can be a negative. Trying to hole out a par 3, can create double bogeys. He has never had a C, and a couple B+'s somewhat hamper him from being seen as a SUPERB applicant. He is AWESOME, and being ELITE is not something I give a shit about. He's going to get a great education, he'll be an engineer, he'll be a GUITAR PLAYER and a music writer, a DJ and and continue to publish EDM albums. I DO NOT, live vicariously through my son.

Account Deleted

i can imagine the taste of that one, CH!

used to love going to Tommy's Joint in SFO, when it was still real, and order a Dortmunder Dark.... tasted like pumpernickel bread dipped in whuskey. :D (1973-78)

The Infamous Ignatz

How do we know a 302 was produced of the Flynn interview in January 2017 or that it still exists if one was produced?
Flynn's memorandum only cites the August 302 and a January memorandum.
McCabe seems just the kind of guy to make one disappear.
As the marketswork guy states the August 302 appears to be not a reconstruction of the Flynn interview but an interview of Strozk and the other FBI guy about their interview of Flynn.

Ralph L

former Congressman Lee Hamilton

He lived next to our church, and his son Doug & I shared a bus stop for a few years of elementary school. Shy and not bratty, unlike other neighbors. The Step-Monster's sister, who threw her at my dad to get her out of her own hair, lived across the street, the nicest west of Old Town, except for the people.

He was chairman of HPSCI in the 80's when Cheney was ranking member and probably did most of the work. At the time, he was one of the more responsible Democrats.

Jack is Back!

GUS,

Your boy is on a terrific glide path to success. Choose wisely, you college. Make sure it fits your aspirations and mission in life. Frederick is a mere mortal to GUS jr. but he is also climbing the mountain, on a different slope, you might say.

Good luck to him and all our young up and coming warriors to save our republic and beat back the evils of progressivism, socialism, and the FULL COMMIE!

lurkersusie

FYI

Rising serpent
@rising_serpent
California farm responsible for original romaine lettuce E. coli outbreak issues additional recall for red leaf lettuce, green leaf lettuce and cauliflower.
FDA found a positive E. coli sample in an irrigation reservoir on that farm.
Is CA too far gone?

https://kfor.com/2018/12/14/farm-linked-to-romaine-e-coli-outbreak-issues-new-recall-for-other-produce/

Pinandpuller

GUS

You may know John Norum and Mickey Dee...

Give It Up https://youtu.be/tXhgv2q7ZD0

Tom R

Robin Gryst on FBI 302 forms:

https://twitter.com/vabelle2010/status/1074058573452378112?s=21

lyle

Well, shit. I better stop eating all lettuce.

GUS

Great Post Matt.

How about........"then Brett Kaepernick, tried to force me to swallow quaaludes from Solo cups....at BAND CAMP?" "I remember Brett and his buddies, PINBALLING, down the stairs.....LAUGHING and LAUGHING...Excuse me, but can I have a COKE?"

ONCE AGAIN FOR FUX SAKE. Ballsey Fraud, contacted CHI FI, and the GERIATRIC OLD BITCH, hid the correspondance. I remind all of you that DIANE FEINSTONE, is the same BITCH, who released TESTIMONY that was not hers to release, vis a vis GLENN SIMPSON and GPS/FUSION. Her LYING EXCUSE, was that she had a BAD COLD.

What the FUCK. I've had a bad COLD. Never did my BAD COLD, induce me to RELEASE TESTIMONY that was not mine to release.

Classify this into the category of.......HOW STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID are people.

bubarooni

Just got home from burying my FIL.

It's been a tough 8 weeks. I've seen it grind my wife down and not being able to do anything to about it, it's ground me down.

My FIL was one of the finest men I've ever met.

A high school grad, he got shipped off to Korea in the late '50's. Came home, got a job at factory. He also started farming by buying a 60 acre farm.

He'd work the factory shift, come home, eat dinner and head out to the fields till the sun went down. He did this decade after decade.

A cantankerous sort, I recall talking to him 11 years ago when we bought a Saturn Outlook. He asked me how much it cost and I told him '$30k.' He said 'You had $30,000?' I said 'We'll we put down $7500 and financed the rest at 4%.' He spit on the ground and said 'I ain't never bought a car that I didn't pay cash for. Don't ever do that again. You coulda bought 40 or 50 really good acres for that kinda money.'

I think the mans only regret in life was that he had five daughters and a son instead of five sons and a daughter to farm his lands. The daughters don't care about the farming, the son was his right hand man.

He did send everyone one of those kids to college.

He's a yardstick for me, someone I can measure my own worth against. If I make it halfway up that yardstick I'll consider myself a heckuva guy.

We were talking today about the things this man has done: he has 900 acres, a couple of combines, tractors with GPS and computers, children who's dreams his hardwork enabled to be fulfilled.

Like I said, it's been a tough 8 weeks.

Sometimes this website devolves into angry bickering over things and egos get bruised.

A lot of times it devolves into things that have nothing to the topic at hand. I never add anything of substance myself.

I couldn't wait to get home today and read JOM. JOM is a community. It's easy to forget this at times.

I'm feeling better already.

Kind of a long post but if a single person reads this post and sees a single thing about how I feel about my FIL tonight I want you to know that I appreciate your forebearance.

To write these words was for me was cathartic.

henry

Bubarooni, your love and respect for your FIL shines in that post. Condolences to you family on the loss.

Account Deleted

Here's two things i'm doing JimNorCal:

Confronting PC nonsense in local schools.

Involved in action committee to End Dem Voter Fraud: Election Day Photo ID Proof of Citizenship Only Voting — no same-day registration, no provisional or absentee ballots (w/ mil/diplo exceptions), no ballot harvesting, an end to it all for every Federal election.

Back election reform efforts by encouraging POTUS to draft a Presidential EO on national security critical infrastructure.

lyle

Very touching, bubarooni. Condolences and may your FIL RIP.

Jack is Back!

bubarooni,

You did your FIL proud. Wonderful eulogy even on JOM. We need more rememberances of faith, hard work and spirit like he demostrated. Bravo Zulu to you and your family.

Captain Hate

Excellent tribute to your Father in Law, bubarooni. A man's man with a life well lived. You married well.

Another Bob

Sorry to hear bubarooni. When you mentioned “cantankerous” you took me back to my late grandfather. Thanks for that.

GUS

Hey Jack!! You and I have been friends for years.
I'm so glad you saw my post referencing your fantastic son Frederick. My words and thoughts vis a vis your son, and your Fatherhood, are 100% sincere. I think you know that. In fact, I chatted about YOU and your boy, with my beloved bride today. All of US here at JOM, who have had even a short term experience as FRIENDS, recognize the different places and situations that our children and families come from. I am not the type of guy to be in any way jealous or envious of someone else's success or their earned largesse or station in life. Jack, you are a very very intersting "chap". You are, accomplished and educated. You have EARNED everything you possess in life, and I have NEVER found you boastful, braggadocious. I'd try to equate your status, with me GUS, talking about the GUITARS, that I own. Some might find my guitar talk, as uncouth. It is certainly not meant to be that.

Pinandpuller

John Norum...Glenn Hughes...please meet your parties on The Veranda:

Face the Truth

https://youtu.be/Jz2HJIwXE7E

Narciso79

A wonderful tribute bubarooni.

As to that conjecture up thread I noted who really created the architecture of the EU a fmr?? Communist aldo spinelli, like hydra it burrowed itself in the bureaucracy.

Tom R

How do we know a 302 was produced of the Flynn interview in January 2017 or that it still exists if one was produced?

That would be one helluva plot twist if there was never a 302 of the January interview in the first place.

The Infamous Ignatz

Reminds me of my dad, bubarooni, except for the cantankerous part. :)
Condolences to you and especially your wife and entire family.
Good men somehow seem to be at the same time everywhere but hard to find.

peter

Sincerest condolences, bub

GUS

Bubarooni, you are a very good man. Your beloved wife needs your support, and THERE YOU ARE.
I lost my Dad 5 years ago or so. My friend Henry lost his Father about the same time.
My Bride's Dad, is going to be 86 shortly. Her Mom, is in her mid-late 70's and has survived some health scares including cancer. Mrs Gus's, Father is as healthy as an 86 year old man could be. An Army Veteran, and a 40 plus year Brick layer/Mason, he is an example of GREAT genes. We don't get to choose our elders, our MIL'S our FIL'S nor our Spouses siblings. We spend decades with our wives parents and families, and they BECOME OURS. I am generally, a gregarious and emotional guy. My wifes family....IS MY FAMILY.

God bless your Father in Law BUB. And God bless your lovely wife.

The Infamous Ignatz

Considering the execrable Strozk and McCabe were running the show the surprise would be if anything was above board and according to Hoyle.

Captain Hate

WJOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mGhXcujpwU

lyle

FTKSAH: I’m just finishing my third bag o’ dicks bowl for the day.

Pinandpuller

GUS

I think Ford and Clinton may have The Sicilian Flu.

I love Dr's terms like 'presents.'

Clinton presents at the courthouse with dysphasia and hypotestimony.

Narciso79

Correction, alfieri spinelli:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/27/the-secret-history-of-the-eu-written-on-an-italian-prison-island/amp/

lyle

One more to go!

Account Deleted

"FDA found a positive E. coli sample in an irrigation reservoir on that farm.
Is CA too far gone?
"

Nerp.

farmworkers have been washing themselves in irrig ponds, ditches, and reservoirs for over 100 years.

the recall system is nowhere near that old.

bagged processed greens is a relatively new marketing/packaging concept for the "bizzy masses" to absorb--- so they do not, as a rule, wash the stuff that comes prepackaged, despite warnings.

add to the mix, herd/feedlots run-off slurry contain e coli. management of that slurry to prevent it from entering ground water and aquafiers is a relatively new concept. nature doesn't have a foolproof sanitation process for dealing with such high potency infusions.

the publicity such recalls get is enormous. on balance, given the productivity of California's lettuce industry the incidents are microscopic.

but there is money to be made on bad news.

Account Deleted

bubarooni-- thank you. and God Bless you and yours as Pa heads homeward.

one of my mentors said while i was farming in southern Illinois, during a very rough time getting the crops out of the field with old, worn equipment--- "Just remember, Son, the whole point of farmin' is plantin' people. You'll come though it."

Peace. And welcome back.

Kev

PS: What was his first name? And do you know what his cronies called him? i always ask. :D

Rocco

Now you have to ask yourself if Trump brought Mueller into the scheme and that was the primary topic of their private discussion the day before Mueller was appointed SC.

The day before Mueller was appointed was also the same day Rosenstein offered to wear a wire to impeach the president with the 25th amendment. I think Rosenstein was wearing a wire while Mueller pretended to want the directors job.

henry

I’m just finishing my third bag o’ dicks bowl for the day

I hope they were low carb.

GUS

Ig, STRZOK'S emails, and his behaviors with PAGE, and his ACTIONS vis a vis giving RODHAM and RODHAM'S sycophant CREW, a PASS, and also giving all of RODHAM'S CREW/TEAM, immunity and no exchange nor quid pro quo, is completely OBVIOUS.
The CRIMINAL CLOWN and ATTEMPTED CON MAN....STRZOK, tried to claim, that YES HIS IDEA'S, TEXTS and WORDS seemed WAY WAY WAY BIASED, but HE NEVER ....."ACTED" on his BIAS.

MUELLER IS A WHITE HAT!!!!! RIGHT??

Captain Hate

the publicity such recalls get is enormous. on balance, given the productivity of California's lettuce industry the incidents are microscopic.

but there is money to be made on bad news.

Few things bother me as much as wasting food. When that romaine recall happened I was one third through a bag and there was NFW I was tossing something that hadn't already made me toss my cookies. Believe me, I understand statistics. It wasn't fake news per se, given their track record; but I wasn't part of their audience as usual.

Jack is Back!

narc,

And the brightest minds in Europe, including Britain fell for it. Now they are playing the price of 40 years of stagnation, which they believe is fulfilling their dream of post WW2 when in fact it is bringing birth to socialism.

lyle

High carb with extra MSG, henry.

henry

I assume a vintage (aka last week) Ripple goes with that Lyle?

bubarooni

Thanks Peeps.

I will always remember about 8 years ago when my own father passed away the support I got here.

I asked everyone to 'click' the youtube of his burial because somehow I think my father would be remembered just a little more...

I need 11 more clicks to hit 1000 btw...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ulmhw82j8

GUS

Jack. They will NEVER learn. Allow unfettered immigration in the VIRTUE SIGNALING pose, that you CARE about REFUGEES. Weak minded CLOWNS, who are balancing their need to keep ELECTED, with their NEED to SUCK UP TO VARIED and NEVER in the best interests nor CULTURAL best interests of the people or existing culture of the NATION.

Jane

Bubarooni,

You are a wonderful man.

GUS

Jane, you are so pithy these days. You are right to the point and accurate.

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"I'm perfectly fine if that scenario turns out to be true because it still supports the sting operation against the Deep State theory, which is the pie I am serving. "

Incorrect. Your crust and filling cohere around a stated premise "engineered by Flynn." i do not subscribe to that "theory."

"It doesn't matter to me if Flynn, Trump, or someone else devised the scheme."

So you say now.

"Now you have to ask yourself"
See? there's that "compelling logic" exhortation that falls flat. Watch.

" if Trump brought Mueller into the scheme and that was the primary topic of their private discussion the day before Mueller was appointed SC."

what if Trump decided the purpose of that meeting was to put his alpha male nut sack in front of Mueller's nose and asked him "Are you sure you want to do this? Are you really sure that you want to do this?"

that would be a psy-op play. Create doubt in Mueller's mind that Mueller can win. So here we are 18 months later and Mueller's drag line is coming up with zip.

bringing Mueller into the "sting" would have given away the game to somebody POTUS would be deciding to trust after no evidence to support giving away highly classified information.

for me taking Mueller into confidence is a play that seems more than a mild stretch.

even though the press wasn't invited, Trump likes to look his enemies in the eye. having Rosita and Mueller on hand that day was, to me, more likely the purpose.

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OFF

Pinandpuller

It was seven days ago today

Badger GUS showed The Pin The way

To drink beer and stay awake

And not end up in a big old Lake...

RattlerGator

There was a contemporaneous 302, it was written by Pientka, and I believe Strzok / Page reference it well before August -- IIRC.

Narciso79

He may have intended it this way but Mueller is a much more crafty bureaucratic combatant, with acolytes covering for him for 40 plus years

Pinandpuller

So let me introduce to you

From permafrosted moraine land

Badger GUS's Happy Drunk Beer Band

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G'nite, JOM. Glad to see you back, Jack.

Catsmeat

bubaroooni, thank you for your eulogy. That video was beautiful--those black horses! They didn't shy even with the traffic off to the side. And the drum...totally memorable and fitting.

Tom R

The day before Mueller was appointed was also the same day Rosenstein offered to wear a wire to impeach the president with the 25th amendment.

Considering the fact Trump hasn't fired Rosenstein for offering to wear a wire I am going to make an assumption that he agrees with Rosenstein it was a sarcastic remark in response to something McCabe said.

Another Bob

It was seven ‘eves ago tonight

Badger GUS turned out Pin’s light

Was he slipped a Wisconsin mickey?

But Pin woke up with but one kidney

MissMarple2

Long day today. Think I will head to bed...


Nytol!

GUS

Pin, I miss you already. You were tired and a gamer. I was watching English Premier League Soccer, and I feel asleep at LIVERPOOL'S half time.
When I woke up at 8:30, I checked my phone, and you had given me an ETA of 8:45. I got up and got ready for your arrival. Damn Pin, did we have fun!!! We toured Milwaukee, and I even did a drive by at my OFFICE!!!
We need to do the GET TOGETHER AGAIN.

In NASHVILLE or INDY.

henry

He wasn’t using it. Favored the other one.

RattlerGator

RG, maybe I’ll open a new front...

Do you believe Trump & allies are the smarter people in the room? If so (and it seems you do), do you think the progs/swamp know this by now?

If the answers are yes and yes, don’t we have to assume that the swamp has enlisted some help? Can/does TrumpCo escalate the arms race without limit?

Posted by: Another Bob | December 15, 2018 at 07:02 PM

Thanks for humoring me, AB. I dive back into JOM and then remember why I have to leave y'all alone most of the time -- I love shooting the shiznit with y'all. Now, this may be too verbose but here goes nothing.

Here is what I suspect, and remember . . . I was on the other side politically, I worked on a campaign for Corrine Brown in Jacksonville / Orlando in 2000, and I've seen some of the dishonest conversations politicians and their acolytes have *with* themselves and *among* themselves -- okay?

Yes, the denizens of the Swamp are certainly aware of Trump's existential threat to them. They've *always* known, from his first announcement. In fact, before he ever announced. They know damn well he's smarter than them. Politicans, by rule, aren't the swiftest and most political leftwingers genuinely aren't nearly as smart as they think they are. Politicians are also quite insecure; almost like actors.

That said, they can't enlist political help to combat Trump, AB, and here's why: Clinton, Inc. hates Obama, Inc. and vice-versa.

Do you see the problem? Both of them have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Both have committed criminal acts. Everybody is scheming on how to minimize the direct effect on them.

In fact, there's tremendous speculation floating around that Obama (of course) fully expected Hillary to win . . . and the White House was bugged (originally) for Obama vs Clinton reasons. Think about that.

Our political class has so failed us, on both sides of the aisle, that we're truly in uncharted territory and the Trump Administration has to successfully manage *all* of this shiznit, this desperately needed re-set, in a way that doesn't diminish American support for our law enforcement, legal, and judicial institutions.

That's no easy task. Capisce !?! So we get this drawn out investigation that frustrates the nation but it will ultimately clear Trump while capturing many of the Bottom Bitches in government and surrounding DC, their bribers and lobbyists and a select few politicians who have most corrupted our system.

Trump is essentially giving the whole system an enema. I can't wait to see what he and Mick Mulvaney (and others) come up with on how to re-imagine how the federal government does what it does. I'm expecting blockbuster stuff.

GUS

Another Bob, you are the man!!!

I wish I was in CO SPRINGS right now.

Another Bob

What’s in CoSprings?

Tom R

Incorrect. Your crust and filling cohere around a stated premise "engineered by Flynn." i do not subscribe to that "theory."

Like I said, it doesn't bother me if one of Flynn's associates concocted the scheme to take down the Deep State. All that matters is that there is a scheme. Seems a silly point for you to argue since we both agree that there was some kind of scheme.

what if Trump decided the purpose of that meeting was to put his alpha male nut sack in front of Mueller's nose and asked him "Are you sure you want to do this? Are you really sure that you want to do this?"

In that event it raises the question again of when can you take what Trump says literally and when is he being deceptive and there is some other meaning/intent. He is on record multiple times saying the Mueller SC appointment was a complete surprise. In your scenario that means Trump has been lying about that particular event from the outset.

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