Build The Compromise!

Jonah Goldberg contemplates the next government shutdown and makes a seemingly obvious point about Pelosi's power position:

Pelosi might be the first political adversary who is invulnerable to Trump’s attacks. Trump is dangerous to his preferred targets — other Republicans — precisely because he can sway his supporters, voters and MAGA media figures alike, to turn on those disloyal to him. He can’t do that with Pelosi.

Indeed, in an era of negative partisanship, Trump’s attacks make Pelosi stronger with her base and with many independents, who split evenly for Clinton and Trump in 2016, and who have largely turned against him and tuned out his appeals.

And because Pelosi controls a Democratic House, she is free to use her institutional powers against Trump in ways that Paul Ryan never could have, even if he had wanted to.

Well, yeah - Nancy is worried about tweets from Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, not Trump.

This does not bode well for a compromise, especially given Congress's long history of passing the buck on tough issues:

And while there are some Democrats and Republicans who would like to reach a compromise, both Pelosi and Trump have few incentives to do anything that will seem like capitulation. Many Republicans have already made peace with the idea of an emergency declaration, because it would let them off the hook for failing to pass wall funding.

Meanwhile, Trump is clearly enamored with the idea, believing it would convey strength and a willingness to fight. Yes, some court somewhere would instantly stay the order, but that would simply give everyone an issue to bleat about.

Trump would save face with his base and have a convenient bogeyman — runaway liberal judges! — to rail against. The move would divide the larger conservative movement while unifying Democrats, who’d scream “Dictator!” while quietly noodling about how a Democratic president could use the same powers for a “Green New Deal” or some other fantasy.

AllahPundit is on a similar page - the basis for a deal just isn't here:

Corralling Republicans is comparatively easy for Jared, though. All he needs to do is convince Trump and a critical mass of GOPers in Congress will surely follow. They live in fear for their political lives from him. Once Trump gave them cover by supporting the reform package, Jared knew he had the leverage to make a deal happen.

It’s conceivable that he’d duplicate that feat on immigration reform with Republicans. Get Trump to support a grand bargain and enough Senate GOPers will follow his lead to make passage viable. His problem is Democrats. And not just Democrats but Democrats who recently fought a month-long high-stakes political battle with Trump — and won. They’re less inclined to give him money for the wall right now than they would have been before the shutdown began. If either side is going to need extra concessions to make a deal, it’s Pelosi’s party, not Trump’s.

In fact, the big fight over the wall has made that particular plank of immigration enforcement a fetish for both sides. After going to the mat on it, Trump simply can’t accept a deal that lacks wall funding now. It doesn’t matter what else is in there — comprehensive e-Verify, some new limits to legal immigration (which Democrats will never agree to), etc. If he doesn’t get the wall, he loses, period. I don’t think the wall’s power as a fetish is *quite* as strong for Democrats, but it’s plenty strong. There are, I think, concessions that Trump might make that they’d seriously consider, like a permanent DREAM amnesty that includes a path to citizenship. But as I say, their “ask” now will be steeper than it was six weeks ago. It will take a major concession to make this happen.

So tell me: Is there any major concession Trump might make that the populist right would tolerate in the name of securing wall funding?

I can't elevate this to a Bold Prediction but do let me note that DC has a time-honored technique for resolving this sort of impasse - appoint a bipartisan commission to study the obvious and come back with a report telling us what we already knew, but let business continue as usual while we pretend we are learning something. As a recent example, the Simpson-Bowles deficit commission of 2010 was slated to report back after the 2010 elections. The commission was proposed in January 2010 as a fig leaf to break a debt-ceiling jam.

A Commission on Border Security could puzzle over all sorts of ideas to strengthen the border and in a calm debate there is no doubt in my mind that physical barriers would be a part of the solution for some parts of the border. The bigger problem is that the next real deadline past which both parties might want to kick this is the 2020 election. I don't see how Democrats on the panel could report favorably on physical barriers prior to the election.

Complicating the barrier question is the legal environment in the US. This Heritage report from 2009 sets the stage:

In some areas, erecting fences is the best way to tackle the illegal-entry problem. But the cost makes it important to use fencing only in areas with a low "melting point." The melting point is the time it takes for an individual to cross the border and "melt" into a landscape unnoticed. In urban border communities, spending money on physical barriers makes sense because individuals can easily cross the border and sneak quickly into the urban landscape (for example, one can hide in a building or steal a car and drive away). But in other areas, like the middle of the desert, the barren landscape makes it easy for Border Patrol agents to detect border crossers.

Well, yes but... Today, immigrants with children are happy to be detained in the US because they understand they won't be held for more than 20 days and our courts can't process their dubious asylum claims in that time frame. The Trump Administration is dealing with that by trying to keep asylum applicants on the Mexican side of the border.

Comments

[D]

First, for the first time in months

[Narciso79]

Seriously tm jonah may be we need to vote for this compromise to find what's in it.

[Narciso79]

Surprisingly the bulwinkle did not focus in this kerfluffle, not having apologized for throwing sandmann under the bus.

[Old Lurker]

Continuing a discussion from the prior thread which occupied men of a certain age and snow blowers, I rise to offer this.

You all know I hate big government and all the laws and regs that come with it. If I were king for a day, I would wipe the slate clean back to 1789 and start over with a clean slate.

On that clean slate, I would add three new laws:

1. No gasoline powered device of any kind can be sold to or owned by any man over 50 unless said device has a working electric starter.

2. No electronic device that includes any sort of time keeping function can exist that requires manual resetting of the clock after a power outage.

3. No electronic device such as a smoke detector which includes a 9V battery shall be allowed to announce a dwindling charge by emitting any sort of "Beep" unless it lights up and leaves on a LED indicator light with the first such beep so men can locate the source of the beep.

That is all.

PS, if I were greedy, and since in my house as I am sure others, the rule is that whoever opens a clean dishwasher is required to empty it, I would ask that no dishwasher be produced which does not have a reset button a man can use to relight the green "clean" status after he extracts the one coffee cup he wants.

[Buckeye]

So you get the dishwasher lectures too OL?:)

[Narciso79]

Carrying over from the last thread, Its a coincidence that Reuters story drops when a Qatari led hacking group is being sued and a film about their self is being circulated.

[Sandy Daze]

Query:

Do you think that "the wall" was delayed into DJT's third year because of other higher-precedence competing priorities (e.g. North Korea, Taxes, NATO, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, etc)?

WDC is often referred to as a one-crisis-at-a-time activity.

Was The Donald overwhelmed with other issues?

or perhaps

Did The Donald receive and accept poor advice?

or perhaps

Is this part of The Donald's vaunted gazillion-dimension strategy?

Any thoughts?

Thank you.

MAGA

[Narciso79]

That's part of it, sandy, you know the sturm and drang re thr immigration pause, which was very modest, among other issues.

[Account Deleted]

ocho

[clarice]

I skipped over quickly the post when it began "JonahGoldberg"..He ignores the counter pressure on Congressional Dems by their constituents.When DJT speaks he should pair this with the Congressional vote to allow illegals to vote.Maerose Prizzi Pelosi is not THAT powerful.

[Tom R]

Sandy Daze @

My guess is that Trump realized that the RINOs in Congress were just as effective opponents to parts of the MAGA agenda as Chuck and Nancy are. Paul Ryan and the GOPe could have included funding for the border wall in the first budget that Trump signed but they didn't. Trump thinks strategically so I think for the first two years he focused on the parts of the MAGA agenda he thought the RINOs would support and for the last two years he will focus on the parts of the MAGA agenda that will not only get him re-elected, but also help elect a lot of pro-MAGA Congressmen that will return control of the House to the GOP. We will then need a pro-MAGA insurgency in the House similar to the threat Pelosi is currently facing with her Progtard nutjob faction. As long as McCarthy is leader of the House GOP caucus we will never know when he will decide to backstab the MAGA agenda to instead support the Uniparty Establishment agenda.

[clarice]

By contrast to the sage of Tacoma Park (JG):https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/shock-poll-democratic-swing-districts-back-wall-trump-immigration-offer

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Indeed, in an era of negative partisanship, Trump’s attacks make Pelosi stronger with her base and with many independents, who split evenly for Clinton and Trump in 2016, and who have largely turned against him and tuned out his appeals.--

That must be why a large majority of the people don't want a wall and don't care about illegal immigration and why Nancy's poll numbers shot up during the shutdown and why Trump's poll numbers plummeted among Hispanics.

Here's a good rule of thumb these days; if the huge lummox with the immense bony head Jonah Goldberg writes something, assume it is not only wrong but 180 degrees from reality.
His writing has always been juvenile. Trump's magical powers have revealed it to be delinquent as well.

[Narciso79]

I know it's like shooting womprats tm but it isn't really sporting fir that reason

[clarice]

Exactly, Iggy--you put it better than I did.

[JimNorCal]

Firs... Never mind.

[Tom R]

The poll clarice linked at 11:08 is significant IMO because it isn't a public opinion poll conducted by a partisan media organization to influence a subjective narrative. It's an internal RNC poll (which aren't usually made public) which means the results should be more statistically valid and will be used to influence future GOP policy positions.

[Neo]

Billionaire former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz says he can't run for president as a Democrat because he doesn't like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's proposal to slap a 70-percent marginal tax rate on income above $10 million.

[Sandy Daze]

Tom R | January 30, 2019 at 11:07 AM

Thanks, the airways leading up to the mid-terms (I listen on Tune-in to several stations from NC to MO and points inbetween) were filled with pro-macarthy and the beautiful wall he would help The Donald build if he only got the chance to do so...

[MissMarple2]

Sandy Daze,

I was listening to a podcast yesterday which said that there is a bigger concern with China and their acquisition of intelligence and technology than has been released for public consumption. Apparently there is a high likelihood that people in our government SOLD them this stuff. (Feinstein would be just one likely suspect, along with the Clintons. Possibly some GOP.)

Who knows what cans of worms Trump found after he took office? What we have learned over the last 2 years is bad enough.

I figure he was busy putting out fires and given the uselessness of Paul Ryan and the GOPe, he is only now to the point where he can press for a border wall.

[Dave (in MA)]

.

What the hell is Bolton up to...

[Sandy Daze]

Regarding that poll,
I think it is axiomatic that if you are an immigrant (Hispanic or other) to America coming here the legal way, you will support The Donald's efforts to fix the immigration system.

And,

if you are an immigrant here illegally you prefer not to have the system fixed, because any fix will be worse than your current status.

Non-citizenship voting reinforces that perspective.

MAGA

Rule of Law
or
Law of Rule

[MissMarple2]

clarice,

This is the most I have read of anything Jonah Goldberg has had to say in over a year. Given how much weight he has gained (and Kristol and David Frum as well), perhaps NeverTrumpism is caused by a high carb diet and he should consider following the anonamom diet plan!

[Catsmeat]

willowed on last thread--

MM, that's a clever version of the seven deadly sins! I only used Netflix, and that very rarely to see an old movie (they don't have enough of what I want though).

daddy, I cede to you readily as the Twain expert. The Wizard of Oz, though, was published in 1900--easy to remember. I hope I am a reasonably unpreposterous Yale grad.

As for the putatively attacked fellow, I suggest we call him Tobias Smollett (real guy, wrote novels in the 18th c.)

[Tom Maguire]

1. No gasoline powered device of any kind can be sold to or owned by any man over 50 unless said device has a working electric starter.

2. No electronic device that includes any sort of time keeping function...

3. No electronic device such as a smoke detector which includes a 9V battery shall be allowed to announce a dwindling charge by emitting any sort of "Beep"...

If I could only pick one I would pick (1) and (3) because I really want at least two.

Frank Sinatra sang about the romance of the Small Wee Hours but I doubt he spent ten minutes with his hands on his hips staring at three smoke detectors within fifteen feet of each other trying to guess which one was beeping once a minute.

And of course, he didn't include a verse about having only one 9V battery handy either.

Hey, a Bonus Brainwave! These 9V batteries ALWAYS fail at night because the thermostat is turned down and batteries don't like the cold. Maybe... that has to be better than my other theory, which is to Blame Al Gore.

[anonamom]

What kind of lowlife WOULDN'T empty the dishwasher, rather than expect THE ONLY OTHER PERSON WHO LIVES IN THE HOUSE
to empty it?????

Asking for a friend....

****
My take re: wall--

The wall is being resurrected as an election issue. Will define who is on what side re: immigration/border safety/whatever you wish to call it.

As far as the physical wall--- Ryan didn't want it; doubt McConnell gives a hoot about it either.
Much more utility in using it this way than to fail while R House and Senate.

[Sandy Daze]

Hadn't heard that Miss M, TY.

Loral --?-- Clinton come to mind.

As time goes by, the fundamental things apply, Miss M:

https://youtu.be/qNO8BPj4MDg

MAGA

[MissMarple2]

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/as-polar-vortex-tightens-its-grip-on-midwestern-us-accuweather-realfeel-temperatures-plummet-to-70-f/70007262
========================
I have been struck with the hysteria about this cold weather, and a sentence from a weather guy in this article explains it.

We have an entire generation who has grown up without experiencing this level of cold.

I remember when Reagan's second inauguration had to be held indoors. Indianapolis hit -27 in January of 1994. But if you are under 30 you probably have no memory of harsh winters.

[MissMarple2]

Sandy Daze,

Loral was exactly what came into my mind when I heard that.

Was Feinstein's Chinese driver of 25 years a spy, or was he simply a courier?

[Narciso79]

23 senators voted against Israel yesterday are they all on the qatari/Turkish payroll?

[Jim Eagle]

Ah, Tacoma Park, MD, a Birkenstock wearing Suburu driving, nuclear free zone. A perfect fit for Jonah.

[Neo]

The fact that CNN had cameras there {at Stone's house] before dawn, and the fact that the FBI allowed their SWAT team to be backlit for the cameras by CNN (which would have been suicidal had the FBI actually encountered armed resistance), indicates that obviously the FBI was working with CNN to make the arrest as theatrical as possible.

A number of people familiar with police tactics noted on Twitter after the raid that allowing backlighting of the SWAT team was a complete violation of the most elementary safety rules.

[hrtshpdbox]

Chris Christie no longer hoping for a job in the administration, says in an interview yesterday that Jared's dad Charles Kushner was guilty of "one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes that I prosecuted ...and I was the U.S. attorney in New Jersey".

[Neo]

About 20 tons of gold from Venezuela's central bank was ready to be hauled away Tuesday on a Russian airline's Boeing 777 that landed in Caracas a day earlier, a Venezuelan lawmaker wrote on Twitter. The destination of the $840 million in gold bars was unknown, but a source told Bloomberg News that it represented about 20 percent of the country's holding of the metal.

[MissMarple2]

#Arizona Desert Guardians send a warm THANK YOU TO PRESIDENT TRUMP @POTUS....

for sending reinforcements to the Arizona Border! Once again our @POTUS comes through🙏 pic.twitter.com/Dj1MsUTDwo

— Cindyseestruth (@cs00582scs) January 30, 2019

Link goes to video (from a phone ) of military vehicles showing up as reinforcements.

[henry]

Think Gerstner and Goldman Sacks for across the board tech sales to China. Goolag’s Schmidt isn’t far behind. They all were backed by the Chamber of Commerce (and lackeys thereof). That should cover the entire uniparty.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

29 year old daughter of architect who is an imbecile, noted bartender and dumbshit tells son of truck driver who built multi billion dollar company from the ground up; Ocasio-Cortez: Billionaires Like Howard Schultz Should "Work Their Way Up"

[Thomas Collins]

If that's an accurate copy of Bolton's yellow pad, Dave (in MA), I'd say Bolton is trolling Maduro. Noone writes that neatly on a yellow pad if they are really taking notes.

[lurkersusie]

A private school is refusing to play against Karen Pence’s school, on the grounds that playing basketball at a Christian school makes children ‘unsafe.’

Progressive Va. School Refuses To Play Sports With Icky Christian Kids

http://thefederalist.com/2019/01/30/progressive-va-school-refuses-to-play-sports-with-icky-christian-kids/

[hrtshpdbox]

I'd say Bolton is trolling Maduro.

The page Dave posted would be Bolton trolling security at the Capitol building.

But with the actual pad he was holding up, yeah, I think Bolton was sending a message, pretty clearly.

[anonamom]

Interesting article:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-witness-team-gamed-out-russian-meddling-in-2015

from this thread:

https://twitter.com/DawsonSField/status/1090624296010084352

[henry]

Dawsonfield:

Oh is this the most beautiful Machiavellian scheme I've ever seen! Inspector General Horowitz has asked for new jurisdiction! He is asking the Senate to pass a bill giving him the authority to investigate prosecutorial misconduct!

https://twitter.com/dawsonsfield/status/1090650910290780161?s=21

[rse]

OL-best not get the miele that cracks itself to let out steam and show cycle is done. Once that lever retracts, you cannot pretend it has not been opened after the cycle finished.

[Thomas Collins]

You caught me, hrtshpdbox! I read it too quickly!

[henry]

Horowitz is using the Acosta / Epstein deal to open up on all fed prosecutors.

[MissMarple2]

Old Lurker,

I would like electric starts on all small engines. I do not have the upper body strength to start our lawnmower or weedeater, which means that although I am willing to do some of the mowing, unless someone else is here to get the dang thing going, I can't do it.

[anonamom]

Typically gets this cold every 12 years per meteorologist from Minneapolis on NPR right now, but it's been 23 years this time around.

It's going to be 40 Saturday there---so 60 degrees warmer than today.

Take care. Stay safe.

[GUS]

Who is Jonah Goldberg, and why would anyone care??

Possibly, this fellow is chunky, because SUBURU'S come with virtue signaling LOVE and DONUTS.

[James D.]

The fact that CNN had cameras there {at Stone's house] before dawn, and the fact that the FBI allowed their SWAT team to be backlit for the cameras by CNN (which would have been suicidal had the FBI actually encountered armed resistance), indicates that obviously the FBI was working with CNN to make the arrest as theatrical as possible.

The next time an FBI agent gets shot, I won’t shed a tear, because they deserve it for playing along with this disgusting crap.

[henry]

Kasich:

Governor Kasich didn’t leave the first class cabin, he sat down in another passenger’s seat instead.

https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2019/01/28/airline-downgraded-john-kasich-but-he-wouldnt-leave-first-class/

[Extraneus]

Horowitz is using the Acosta / Epstein deal to open up on all fed prosecutors.

Hard to see how that could be a bad thing. It's not like he could hide evidence from the real investigators of prosecutors, because there aren't any.

[Jim Eagle]

amom,

What is the signifigance of your 109 comment on previos thread?

[Old Lurker]

MM "perhaps NeverTrumpism is caused by a high carb diet"

I prefer to think it is the other way around for them. The caveman genes in them are fattening them up before they burrow into the ground and hibernate until the glacier melts.

[Old Lurker]

A-mom "What kind of lowlife WOULDN'T empty the dishwasher,"

The old mad mag image "What, Who Me?" comes to mind.

[Extraneus]

Donald Trump is making me gain weight. I start the day with liquids, but after the morning news, I eat pancakes smothered in maple syrup!

— Barbra Streisand (@BarbraStreisand) March 5, 2017

Trump just accused Obama of tapping his phones. Seriously crazy times. Time for more pancakes.

— Barbra Streisand (@BarbraStreisand) March 5, 2017

[Tom R]

Inspector General Horowitz has asked for new jurisdiction! He is asking the Senate to pass a bill giving him the authority to investigate prosecutorial misconduct!

I was always under the impression the DOJ OIG already had the jurisdiction to investigate DOJ prosecutorial misconduct. If not the DOJ OIG then who currently has jurisdiction over DOJ prosecutots?

[Les Nessman]

Doubt Horowitz won get that open ended power.
But if he does will he
Only investigate trump people who got deals or
Only investigate trump prosecutors who give
deals or
Investigate Hillary/Dems shady deals for 5 minutes and declare "no misconduct"?

Yes I'm that jaded.

[MissMarple2]

zerohedge
‏ @zerohedge
11m11 minutes ago

APPLE WORKER CHARGED WITH SECRETS THEFT FOR CHINA ROBOCAR FIRM

APPLE ENGINEER TOOK `ENORMOUSLY DAMAGING' DATA, U.S. ALLEGES

Perfect timing
=============================
I am looking for a story link with more information than this tweet.

[Les Nessman]

won = will

[henry]

Tom R, DOJ Office of Professional Responsibly has the current ability to review prosecutors. (Like new still in box!!!)

[Old Lurker]

Ext "Hard to see how that could be a bad thing. It's not like he could hide evidence from the real investigators of prosecutors, because there aren't any."

Sure.

On paper.

But that Deep State Paper Hanger has had his 15 minutes of fame - two years worth - and has returned nothing of value for the vast sums spent on his efforts. Why expand the land he can lay fallow?

[Tom R]

Guess I should have read the Dawson Field tweet thread all the way to the end. The DOJ's Office of Professional Responsibility currently has jurisdiction over DOJ prosecutorial misconduct cases.

[henry]

PBS saying bad things about government health care?

Because of the State of the Union, @WSJ investigation with Frontline on the Indian Health Service will air Feb. 12 instead of Feb. 5. @Frontlinepbs and WSJ make a powerful team. Predator on the Reservation

https://twitter.com/forsythjenn/status/1090666283375431680?s=21

[Buford Gooch]

Wow! Jonah and Allapundit both in one post. Maybe next time throw in Glenn Greenwald too.

[MissMarple2]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/30/lott-auschwitz-liberation

This article contains some information about Auschwitz's liberation which I did NOT know about.

[Account Deleted]

(("perhaps NeverTrumpism is caused by a high carb diet"))

or satisfying the munchies at a Subway sandwich shop at 2 am.

[glasater]

Had to laugh at TM's complaint about 3 smoke alarms and wondering which one has a battery going out.

I photograph homes for RE agents to list. Big variety in price range for these homes.

Now this may sound rather prejudiced.. it really isn't but in every home that has been owned by hispanics they remove the wired-in smoke detectors along with those that operate by batteries.

It's a little economy I've found interesting.

[MissMarple2]

VA gov on abortion this morning:

“If a mother is in labor...the infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians & mother" pic.twitter.com/cc15pVLjIQ

— Caleb Hull (@CalebJHull) January 30, 2019

Video of the Virginia governor at the link. Buried in his mealy-mouth answer is basically the opinion that the mother should decide whether the baby born alive should be killed.

[Old Lurker]

Henry?

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/foxconn-may-not-build-10b-wisconsin-plant-trump-touted-n964411

[jimmyk]

No electronic device such as a smoke detector which includes a 9V battery shall be allowed to announce a dwindling charge by emitting any sort of "Beep" unless it lights up and leaves on a LED indicator light with the first such beep so men can locate the source of the beep.

OL, must be something in the air, as by coincidence I was awakened this morning by the chirping of an expiring battery in a smoke detector. (The batteries always seem to run down so the chirping starts at around 4am.) As it happens, we have the smoke detector is right next to a CO detector, so I had to guess which one had the failing battery.

So I endorse your proposal, but with the friendly amendment that the chirping may only occur between 9am and 9pm.

[Old Lurker]

Regarding those smoke detectors.

TM, been there, done that, and with our two Guard Mutts going batsh*t crazy at, as you point out, 2AM at the sound of the very first Beep.

Finally solved it thusly:

My house has 10 or 12 hard wired, interconnected Smokes, all of which had the required battery backups.

That right there was the first problem. One triggers (always the one closet the kitchen when the oven needs cleaning) and they all trigger. Second problem is that's a lot of 9V batteries to fail one by one always at 2AM.

First, fortunately for me all the smokes were on one circuit to power the AC side of each device.

So I installed a switch by the kitchen (lighted toggle when off) which would shut all the power off to all of them if triggered by the kitchen smoke.

Next, I replaced all of the smokes with AC only devices which by themselves would not be legal since they would not work if the power was off. But I made them legal by installing a standard computer Battery Powered Uninterruptible Power Supply UPS at the breaker box though which the Smoke Circuit feeds.

Works like a champ.

[Dave (in MA)]

Gosh, The Stache has really neat handwriting, TC.

[Buckeye]

Anonamom

Just so my reputation doesn't get sullied.

I do most of the cooking, cleaning up, and load and unload the dishwasher probably 90% of the time.

Mrs. Buckeye won't let me do the laundry, so it seems like roughly a fair split.

Last time I did any laundry I shrunk one of her wool sweaters and caught holy hell over that:)

[MissMarple2]

The People's Cube
🚁
🤸
‏ @ThePeoplesCube
56s56 seconds ago

The Democrats abject hatred for @realDonaldTrump has forced them to admit they support

Infanticide
Open borders
Wealth confiscation
Gun confiscation
Digital censorship
Political violence
Socialism

The @GOP
Should be on their knees thanking him.
=========================

I think it is one of his super powers.

[Extraneus]

MILWAUKEE Man Found Dead, Frozen In Garage After Shoveling Snow

[Old Lurker]

Buckeye "I do most of the cooking, cleaning up, and load and unload the dishwasher probably 90% of the time. Mrs. Buckeye won't let me do the laundry, so it seems like roughly a fair split."

I am in a good mood today Buckeye so I won't embarrass you by listing all the things egregiously wrong in your house.

:-)

[Dave (in MA)]

3. No electronic device such as a smoke detector which includes a 9V battery shall be allowed to announce a dwindling charge by emitting any sort of "Beep" unless it lights up and leaves on a LED indicator light with the first such beep so men can locate the source of the beep.

How sexist.

[Extraneus]

Here you go, daddy.

Bezos Launches Investigation Into Leaked Texts With Lauren Sanchez That Killed His Marriage

[anonamom]

You non-dishwasher emptiers---you have noticed all the kids left a while ago, right??

You can no longer blame the doors, cupboards and drawers left open, the skim coat of milk left in the carton instead of bringing in a fresh carton from the other fridge, or the mud tracked in on them.
Well, credibly.

Or the dishwasher full of clean dishes that weren't put away. ;-)

Not that any of that happens at my house.

[anonamom]

JiB--Surber Trump schandenfreude count as of 1/5/19

[Old Lurker]

A-mom I was well raised.

Circa 1953 we got the first dishwasher in our area and Mom thought, since she had four perfectly capable children old enough, that she would load the DW and the kids would empty it. Took about one time for us kids to figure we didn't like that job, so every night one of us "dropped" a dish and broke it. After a week, Mom announced that she would henceforth empty the DW.

Boys gotta learn to train women early, even when they are older and bigger.

:-)

[MissMarple2]

Well, I don't HAVE a dishwasher. If I did, I wouldn't be sad to unload it as well as loading it.

What I miss most is being able to store dirty dishes in the dishwasher until it's ready to runa full load. Here, without one, dirty dishes (even though they are rinsed) stack up in the sink until I wash them.

I usually do dishes after breakfast and then again after dinner. I spend a lot of money on hand lotion.

[anonamom]

OL, I was going to tell Buckeye that I knew he shrunk that sweater intentionally. I wasn't born yesterday!

We did the same thing with my father, who did our nightly dishes. One of the five of us loaded the dishwasher (of basically washed dishes!) and dried the pots and pans.
Or we were supposed to---
If you whined long and loud enough about doing it, or missing out on whatever our friends were doing after supper, he'd get mad and yell "get the hell out of here then!"

Didn't bother me then to have a guy yelling,and it served me well later when I had to bump surgeons' add on cases for the trauma that was coming up from the ER.

[Old Lurker]

:-) Mom

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Opera star David Daniels and husband arrested on sexual assault charges after singer claimed they drugged and raped him in 2010

"Daniels is among the most famous countertenors in the world, while his husband is a widely celebrated conductor. The pair were held in such high regard that they were married by Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in 2014."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-news-david-daniels-husband-arrested-sexual-assault-20190130-story.html

[henry]

OL, elect a socialist like Evers, and bad things happen. Evers ran against the Foxconn deal and promised to bury them in regulatory review of things like water use. Not clear to me Foxconn had any choice given that one single attack angle... no water, no glass.

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Ol' Ruth has done a lot for our great nation.

[henry]

@dcexaminer

Latino group sues Texas officials for flagging voters suspected of not being US citizens

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1090678186139095045?s=12

[Tom R]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2019/01/28/downtown-phoenix-photo-men-soot-blackface/2683881002/

Corrected byline

Rashaad Thomas is a husband, father, a veteran of the U.S. Air Force, poet, essayist, and SJW dumbass.

[Dave (in MA)]

Opera star David Daniels and husband arrested on sexual assault charges after singer claimed they drugged and raped him in 2010

...while yelling this is MAGA country.

[Jim Eagle]

Thank amom. I figured it had to be over hundred.

When we eat in, I do the cooking, shopping for groceries, etc. Mrs. JiB does the cleanup. We seldom use the dishwasher. I do the laundry whenever she is away. I even fold the clothes and put them away:) Except for the cooking, and shopping all the other things come from military discipline, first as an AF brat, then as a member.

A man's job at home is to 1) take care of his kit, and 2) take care of his families kit including domestic chores. Its really that simple.

[cathyf]

Usually somebody else unloads the dishwasher as I seem to be the only member of the family who can load it. I think it should be a really simple thing: while skinny dishes fit in both skinny and fat slots, fat dishes only fit in the fat slots, so if you fill up all the fat slots with thin dishes you won’t have anywhere to put the fat dishes! (Same for tall and short.) And dishes which hold water must be put in upside down.

But somehow DrF and WonderBoy and WonderGirl can’t seem to master this, and I’m mighty suspicious that this might be something common to all physicists!

[Buckeye]

OL

In my case it's simple.

I like clean underwear:)

[Extraneus]

Latino group sues Texas officials

Shouldn't that be Latinx?

[MissMarple2]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/danny-solis-fbi-investigation-alderman-city-council-wiretap/

More scandal from Chicago.

[henry]

All we had to do was wait:

Forbes:

Here’s Why Global Warming Is Responsible For Freezing Temperatures Across The US via @forbes

https://twitter.com/alanohnsman/status/1090618951569104896?s=21

[clarice]

OL is a really, really terrible person.Don't listen to his advice on household chores.

[Tom R]

One year for Father's Day my wife bought me tickets to a Chicago Cubs game so I could cross watching a game at Wrigley Field off my bucket list. She booked us a room at a bed and breakfast near Wrigleyville. I had never been in Chicago before so had no clue about the surrounding neighborhoods. We had just gotten our very first Iphone so we used it to find a local restaurant to eat at within walking distance of the bed and breakfast. We used the Iphone for walking directions. As we got closer to the restaurant we noticed the part of town we were in seemed to have a lot of LGBT bars and stores. Turns out we were in the part of Chicago known as Boystown, which is the main LGBT part of town. That explained the wierd looks we got walking down the street. I guess its a part of town hetero couples avoid.

Anyways, for anyone familiar with Chicago did the incident with Jussie Smolett occur in Boystown, which is the kind of place he would be hanging out in at 2am in the morning? That is definitely not MAGA country.

[cathyf]

Oh, and WonderBoy over the years broke about 3/4 of my Pyrex putting them away in the cupboard over the microwave using the shove-and-slam-the-door technique which is totally ineffective when the cupboard door doesn’t latch. I’m more stubborn than him— I just yelled and made him clean it up. And recently found a thrift shop where I could replace most of the broken pieces for a few dollars each.

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It's interesting that so many of the gay sex assaults are partners attacking young men.

Sept. 2015 Terry Bean (Human Rights Campaign) & his partner - https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/09/225000_offer_by_gay_rights_act.html

"Mr. Bean offered him over $200,000 to civilly compromise this case," Hasselman said. "Now if you're this child and you have the choice between embarrassment and $5 a day and over $200,000 ... it seems to me that would be a highly influential factor in deciding what you're going to do."

Bean, 67, and former boyfriend Kiah Lawson, 25, were charged with having sex with the boy at a Eugene hotel when he was 15 in 2013. Each was charged with two counts of third-degree sodomy, a felony, and third-degree sexual abuse, a misdemeanor. The judge also dismissed the case against Lawson.

Prosecutors strongly opposed the settlement and said that use of a civil compromise was unprecedented in a child sex abuse case."