Build The Compromise!

Jonah Goldberg contemplates the next government shutdown and makes a seemingly obvious point about Pelosi's power position:

Pelosi might be the first political adversary who is invulnerable to Trump’s attacks. Trump is dangerous to his preferred targets — other Republicans — precisely because he can sway his supporters, voters and MAGA media figures alike, to turn on those disloyal to him. He can’t do that with Pelosi.

Indeed, in an era of negative partisanship, Trump’s attacks make Pelosi stronger with her base and with many independents, who split evenly for Clinton and Trump in 2016, and who have largely turned against him and tuned out his appeals.

And because Pelosi controls a Democratic House, she is free to use her institutional powers against Trump in ways that Paul Ryan never could have, even if he had wanted to.

Well, yeah - Nancy is worried about tweets from Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, not Trump.

This does not bode well for a compromise, especially given Congress's long history of passing the buck on tough issues:

And while there are some Democrats and Republicans who would like to reach a compromise, both Pelosi and Trump have few incentives to do anything that will seem like capitulation. Many Republicans have already made peace with the idea of an emergency declaration, because it would let them off the hook for failing to pass wall funding.

Meanwhile, Trump is clearly enamored with the idea, believing it would convey strength and a willingness to fight. Yes, some court somewhere would instantly stay the order, but that would simply give everyone an issue to bleat about.

Trump would save face with his base and have a convenient bogeyman — runaway liberal judges! — to rail against. The move would divide the larger conservative movement while unifying Democrats, who’d scream “Dictator!” while quietly noodling about how a Democratic president could use the same powers for a “Green New Deal” or some other fantasy.

AllahPundit is on a similar page - the basis for a deal just isn't here:

Corralling Republicans is comparatively easy for Jared, though. All he needs to do is convince Trump and a critical mass of GOPers in Congress will surely follow. They live in fear for their political lives from him. Once Trump gave them cover by supporting the reform package, Jared knew he had the leverage to make a deal happen.

It’s conceivable that he’d duplicate that feat on immigration reform with Republicans. Get Trump to support a grand bargain and enough Senate GOPers will follow his lead to make passage viable. His problem is Democrats. And not just Democrats but Democrats who recently fought a month-long high-stakes political battle with Trump — and won. They’re less inclined to give him money for the wall right now than they would have been before the shutdown began. If either side is going to need extra concessions to make a deal, it’s Pelosi’s party, not Trump’s.

In fact, the big fight over the wall has made that particular plank of immigration enforcement a fetish for both sides. After going to the mat on it, Trump simply can’t accept a deal that lacks wall funding now. It doesn’t matter what else is in there — comprehensive e-Verify, some new limits to legal immigration (which Democrats will never agree to), etc. If he doesn’t get the wall, he loses, period. I don’t think the wall’s power as a fetish is *quite* as strong for Democrats, but it’s plenty strong. There are, I think, concessions that Trump might make that they’d seriously consider, like a permanent DREAM amnesty that includes a path to citizenship. But as I say, their “ask” now will be steeper than it was six weeks ago. It will take a major concession to make this happen.

So tell me: Is there any major concession Trump might make that the populist right would tolerate in the name of securing wall funding?

I can't elevate this to a Bold Prediction but do let me note that DC has a time-honored technique for resolving this sort of impasse - appoint a bipartisan commission to study the obvious and come back with a report telling us what we already knew, but let business continue as usual while we pretend we are learning something. As a recent example, the Simpson-Bowles deficit commission of 2010 was slated to report back after the 2010 elections. The commission was proposed in January 2010 as a fig leaf to break a debt-ceiling jam.

A Commission on Border Security could puzzle over all sorts of ideas to strengthen the border and in a calm debate there is no doubt in my mind that physical barriers would be a part of the solution for some parts of the border. The bigger problem is that the next real deadline past which both parties might want to kick this is the 2020 election. I don't see how Democrats on the panel could report favorably on physical barriers prior to the election.

Complicating the barrier question is the legal environment in the US. This Heritage report from 2009 sets the stage:

In some areas, erecting fences is the best way to tackle the illegal-entry problem. But the cost makes it important to use fencing only in areas with a low "melting point." The melting point is the time it takes for an individual to cross the border and "melt" into a landscape unnoticed. In urban border communities, spending money on physical barriers makes sense because individuals can easily cross the border and sneak quickly into the urban landscape (for example, one can hide in a building or steal a car and drive away). But in other areas, like the middle of the desert, the barren landscape makes it easy for Border Patrol agents to detect border crossers.

Well, yes but... Today, immigrants with children are happy to be detained in the US because they understand they won't be held for more than 20 days and our courts can't process their dubious asylum claims in that time frame. The Trump Administration is dealing with that by trying to keep asylum applicants on the Mexican side of the border.

Comments

[MissMarple2]

I am heading to bed.

Nytol!

[Narciso79]

See you need who all these players are on the board I dont respect title as much as their deeds. If you leave the winter hill gang to get ar the patriarcas well that doesn't reflect well on you.

[GUS]

Pin, "let them" no what I'm sayin

[Neo]

Michael Bloomberg: "We need a healthy economy and we shouldn't be embarrassed about our system. If you want to look at a system that is non-capitalistic, just take a look at what was perhaps the wealthiest country in the world and today people are starving to death. It's called Venezuela."

Sounds like he's handing some common sense to the Dems. Which is like feeding steak to a cactus.

[Pinandpuller]

The National Violence Against Women survey found that 21.5 percent of men and 35.4 percent of women living with a same-sex partner experienced intimate-partner physical violence in their lifetimes, compared with 7.1 percent and 20.4 percent for men and women, respectively, with a history of only opposite-sex cohabitation. Transgender respondents had an incidence of 34.6 percent over a lifetime according to a Massachusetts survey.

The CDC’s 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey, released again in 2013 with new analysis, reports in its first-ever study focusing on victimization by sexual orientation that the lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner was 43.8 percent for lesbians, 61.1 percent for bisexual women, and 35 percent for heterosexual women, while it was 26 percent for gay men, 37.3 percent for bisexual men, and 29 percent for heterosexual men (this study did not include gender identity or expression).

https://www.advocate.com/crime/2014/09/04/2-studies-prove-domestic-violence-lgbt-issue

[GUS]

Bloomberg has rabble roused and paid ne-er do wells to spread hate and economic illiteracy.
Here he is to fix what he broke on purpose.
He's a tiny man with no moral compass. I hope they SAVAGE HIM.

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

Whimsical

[GUS]

""The National Violence Against Women survey""
Right!

[GUS]

""The CDC’s 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey,""

I wonder how the "TOXIC MALE mean to all fembots survey turned out this year????

[Pinandpuller]

Did they get fake student loans?

[GUS]

While we are at it, shouldn't there be a BLOODMELON, a SWEATMELON and a TEARSMELON?

Watermelon should be banned on all UNIVERSITY CAMPUS'S. It is a TRIGGER MELON.

[GUS]

Currently 20 below zero in OCONOMOWOC WI.

Holy ICE MELON Batman!!!

[Another Bob]

You know, it really does seem like end times are upon us.

[Dave (in MA)]

And CARNEGIE MELON,
How to win friends and influence canteloupes.

[GUS]

DETROIT?????? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Detroit???

Is this part of the ALLAH NIKE STING??????

[GUS]

Carnegie Melon, the KILT MELON. Scottish Melon, a wee taste o' the whisky, with a hint of Haggis.

[Narciso79]

Well it does show that some cohorts are more subject to dysfunctional behavior, but each group is more selective.

[GUS]

Another Bob, I've had several friends and family members say the same thing. The NEW CONGRESS being sworn in, and several new UNHINGED CLOWNS who have no notion of acting in a civil manner, and who are wild eyed FULL COMMIED KOOOKS, feel a mandate to act out like pathetic losers. It's been coming for a long long time. I named it THE FULL COMMIE about 12 years ago. The ridiculous goofs, like Bill Warren Wilhelm DeBlasio, the clowns like Gavin Threesome, the CHARLATANS like KAMELTOE HARRIS, with HUBRIS only matched by her willingness to fuck her way to the top. Corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtez, the dimbulb bartender, on and on and on and on, racists, angry hispanics, lying hacks.
THEY HAVE BEEN LIBTARDERATED. FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK CHE GUEVARA, WE'RE FREE AT LAST.

[GUS]

Henry's town is 20 below right now too. He has a VERY COZY home. He'll burn a lot of hardwood this week.

[Dave (in MA)]

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/379475.php Pitzer mentioned.

[Dave (in MA)]

Hey, I thought AoSHQ was blocked.

[Narciso79]

Several Cortez tlaib Omar the grand negus from Colorado, it's a full peanut gallery.

[Narciso79]

I saw Zuul in clarices last pieces on sunday.

[Dave (in MA)]

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/320296/ Restraining Order update.

[Narciso79]

He seems to confuse metaphor with reality.

[GUS]

Dave. Here is the Virginia Governor, trying to speak with authority and knowledged.

I must remind ALL OF YOU, that LEFTIST FULL COMMIE POLITICIANS talk thru their ARSE HOLES and try to portray themselves as intelligent, reasonable, and as having a GRASP of an issue, that is IN-FUCKING-SANE.

{{“If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” he continued. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”}}

I can tell you EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. He says. UTTER LYING HORSESHIT.
I refer anyone with a MEMORY or the WILL TO KNOW, to JILL STANEK of CHRIST HOSPITAL in CHICAGO......https://www.californiaprolife.org/testimony-from-nurse-jill-l-stanek-during-the-born-alive-infant-protection-act-congressional-hearings/
Just read the first few paragraphs. Obama sought to allow the death of these born alive infants.

[GUS]

This is insanity. The GOVERNOR of VIRGINIA, is telling, you, me, and the world, that HE KNOWS what would happen. Including......

“The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”}}

The MOTHER??? How can there be a MOTHER, if there is no CHILD?

[Dave (in MA)]

Let's resuscitate the comfortable infant, then we can have a chit-chat about killing him or her.

[Dave (in MA)]

It's not a baby, it's just a crying clump of cells.

[Narciso79]

Honestly you want to pull off his face, to see if if there lizard skin under neath, miss tran a dook grad in social work, explicitly decided to run after trumps election, btw anyone heard from jim ryan?

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

henry's link mostly confirmed?
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/trump-stiffs-feinstein-and-harris-on-judges-mostly.php
TRUMP STIFFS FEINSTEIN AND HARRIS ON JUDGES. . .MOSTLY

[jim nj]

Marcal paper mill in Elmwood Park, NJ is on fire. Big Fire. Anyone traveling on Rte. 80 knows that plant.

I'll see if I can find something to post.

[jim nj]

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/bergen/elmwood-park/2019/01/30/marcal-paper-fire-watch-live-firefighters-battle-7-alarm-blaze/2727847002/

[jim nj]

Local weather radars can "see" the smoke from the fire drifting over Long Island into the Atlantic.

[Narciso79]

Re that Reuters story in the last thread:

https://icwatch.wikileaks.org/search?action=index&controller=search&page=1&search_terms_facet=xkeyscore+hops+out&skills_facet=Information+Security

[Porchlight]

The new prog argument for abortion has nothing to do with viability. It goes like this - the child does not have the right to occupy the woman's uterus without her permission. Thus, it matters not whether the baby is at 8 weeks gestation or 8 months.

[GUS]

Paper mill fire. Wow. We have dozens of paper mills, in the Fond du Lac, Oshkosh, Neenah-Menasha, Kimberly and Appleton, FOX VALLEY corridor just south of Green Bay. Horrible thought, so much fuel.

[jim nj]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190128125314.htm
Metallic wood.

[GUS]

Porch, you are correct, however, the new FULL COMMIE posistion, vis a vis a WYMYNS right to her own COOOOTER, is simply a new nonsensical argument, that eliminates any debate discussion, reason, nor debate. We are AT the END GAME. The child/baby, is the property of the "host". It has been decided, that the "host" may dispose of the child/baby in any manner she chooses. But, there is a fall back position, that the "HOST" has HEALTH CARE CONCERNS, no matter how far fetched, that over rule the child/baby's right to exist. Of course, the DOCTOR will be her guide.

[Narciso79]

That's not really wood is it, what could cause such a conflagration.

[jim nj]

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-undocumented-trump-golf-club-20190130-story.html

What BS. Press tries to embarrass Trump by looking for illegals working for Trump-owned properties. They find some. All are fired because of the bad press. Now they get re-cycled for other Trump bashing jobs.

[Narciso79]

Ah the daily snews, I remember in south Florida they paired it up with the post, the former fits jeffersons meaning of being misinformed my local fiswrap is more of the other category.

[Narciso79]

No Gus sadly we are not at the beginning of ths end, but the end of the beginning, the words of Christian's professing faith burn witn quiet intensity, we see how they react to that.

[jim nj]

Narciso,

Two different stories, "Metallic" wood is all metal put has a porous structure like wood. It's a product of science.

The Marcal paper mill fire is huge and it's a large prominent landmark in Northern NJ for over 80 years. At its' height it was a 7 alarm blaze. Over 100 firefighters involved. With the temp of 7 degrees it's hard to fight because of exposure and the water that isn't burned off freezes.

Marcal also re-cycles a lot of paper into their products, so I assume that besides finished product they must have a large amount of used paper to feed their product line.

That thing is going to be a huge ice-scape tonight or tomorrow.

[Narciso79]

Like that one up in Malden Massachusetts about a dozen years ago maybe longer.

[GUS]

Elizabeth Warren changed her ETHNIC STATUS at PENN, in 1989.

Warren changed her listed ethnicity to Native American in December 1989, nearly three years after she was hired as a white woman by the University of Pennsylvania Law School.

This is PENN. Elizabeth Warren can lie as long as she likes. She is a dishonest HACK. She once asked POTUS DJT, If he was calling HER MOTHER a liar. What a whore. Dodging the truth by using her late mother. No Mrs Warren, YOU are the LIAR. What are you suggesting that you MOTHER said, that would be a LIE.

[daddy]

Back on this "Tawana" Smollett guy and the Twitter link via Dave's 09:48:

Rob Elgas
@RobElgasABC7

Additionally, in their initial report, Jussie Smollett did not tell police his attackers yelled “MAGA.” Chicago Police PIO added: “I’m not saying it’s not true. He could have remembered later, but he did not tell officers that in the initial report.” 2/2

Rob Elgas
@RobElgasABC7

MORE: Chicago PD says detectives did a follow-up, supplemental interview with Jussie Smollett, where he did in fact tell police his attackers yelled “MAGA country.”

Rob Elgas
‏@RobElgasABC7

Chicago Police do not have any video of the assailants and continue to look for surveillance video. Investigators heard the "MAGA country" claim in media reports and called Smollett again. In that supplemental interview he shared that info with police.

So Tawana didn't tell the Police under questioning about "MAGA," when a normal human would have mentioned it. Instead he passed that on via Social Media, and only after the Cops heard it reported in the Media they called Tawana back and then he said, "Oh Yeah."

I wonder if Smollett was also wearing the uniform in Viet Nam like me and Nathan Phillips?

[jim nj]

Let's have somebody investigate all the MSM and see if any of them have illegals working for them.

It's hypocritical. They so want to bash Trump that they're willing to out illegals working for one of his properties.

If one of those outed illegals is going to be at the SOTU and I were Trump, I would call her out as a fine woman and then blast the press for their tactics and biases.

[GUS]

Daddy, my brother in Denver will be laughing his ass off. This CLOWN, didn't mention, the "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY" comment. Same CLOWN, left this "rope" or TWIZZZLER or whatever, around his neck for 40 MINUTES????? Photo op??? Huh? So these racists MAGA dudes with the "rope" recognize this ZERO as a TV STAR from "EMPIRE". Not to be confused with 588-3200 EMPIRE!!!!!
Non existant MAGA DUDES are EMPIRE watchers????

Horse shit.

[jim nj]

Narciso, this one:

https://www.massmoments.org/moment-details/fire-destroys-malden-mills.html

The Polartec mill. Back in 1995. You have a long memory, but as soon as I read the story I remembered it too. The owner backed up his employees.

This isn't the first fire at Marcal. There have been others. No word yet on what started this one, but certain businesses have to worry about fire just because of the manufacturing process.

[GUS]

Jim nj. None of these FULL COMMIES is against any "illegal" working for a CONSERVATIVE.
It's about beating down an opponent. We are WAY BEYOND, some "illegal" being employed or paid.

The same BASTARDS, that created and support, the SANCTUARY for CRIMINALS, pretend to have VALUES.

The FULL COMMIE LEFT, "WANTS THEM HERE".

[daddy]

Heard this on the Radio News while driving today: Vatican priest who oversaw Catholic moral doctrine resigns 'after making advances towards a NUN during confession'

A senior Vatican priest who oversaw sex abuse cases has resigned after being accused of making advances towards a nun during a confession.

He swears he's innocent.

Austrian Father Hermann Geissler, 53, a top official at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said he was stepping down 'to limit the damage already caused to the Congregation and its Community'.

He professed his innocence and asked that a canon trial - which has already started - should continue.

He's accused by German former nun Doris Wagner of soliciting sex with her in 2009 during an event for women who had survived clerical sex abuse.

Here's Doris:
She's cute!

[jim nj]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/01/russia-stands-lose-venezuela-190126142523335.html

[GUS]

Daddy, I am a devout Catholic. I will not abide the ongoing cover up.
IF the CHURCH, will not face it's own DEMON'S.. I will shove it down the throats of those in charge of fixing it.

[Narciso79]

The scalp that they need to challenge viganos charges against Pope francis.

[GUS]

Narciso, I have a theory or saying, that I share with my beloved 17 year old.

If it looks like a FREAK SHOW....it's a FREAK SHOW.

In short if something does not ADD UP....it's a problem.

OURS, mine and YOUR Church, is NOT TRYING to FIX SHIT.
Francis is a BIG REASON. Pope Benedict was run out of town. THERE ARE REASONS.

[Narciso79]

Indeed Gus the Churchs hierarchy indulged Evil and has been stained by it. It's not easy to acknowledge it's the one I received communion and was confirmed, quite a part of my schooling happened within it.

[GUS]

Narciso, me, my wife, my son and my very existance, wants to see this mess through.
There is too much that I don't know.

[daddy]

Wouldn't you think after 2,400 years of practice Britain would finally be able to brew a decent beer?

'First beer made in the UK' dates back to 400BC and is found by archaeologists who unearthed charred remnants of an ancient brewery

Well at least Brit beers are better than Chinese Beers, and the Chin's have had 4 times as long to try to get the hang of it.

The earliest proof of beer-drinking dates back to Northern China 9,000 years ago.

[jim nj]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/why-russia-china-are-fighting-us-push-against-venezuelas-maduro

"Venezuela owes a total of more than $120 billion just to China and Russia. Both Beijing and Moscow are, according to geopolitical experts, worried that if Maduro falls, their already-strained budgets will take a major hit."

[Narciso79]

Elsewhere Brussels still wants the ransom of red chief:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/30/german-police-arrest-three-iraqi-refugees-suspicion-islamist/amp/

[jim nj]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/30/fed-leaves-rates-unchanged.html

The FED seems to be backing off earlier statements. Rate hikes - they're cautious about the need for more vs. yes, there will be more, prior.

The Balance sheet sell-off - if we see the need we can slow the process vs. the prior it's on autopilot.

[Narciso79]

Unlike Greenspan who didnt learn the lesson of 99-01, Powell does have a learning curve.

[Narciso79]

And mannie wants 150 of these folk in his country, good grief.

[daddy]

Apologies, Narciso. Who is Mannie?

[Narciso79]

Macron, le boi toi,

What planet is Dan coats on:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1080346/world-war-3-israel-iran-syria-strike-lebanon-hezbollah-US-war-benjamin-netanyahu

[jim nj]

Daddy,

This is new to me. New research on the Denisova cave in Siberia.

https://gizmodo.com/neanderthals-and-denisovans-shared-a-siberian-cave-for-1832195445

"Denisova cave in southern Siberia was home to Neanderthals and Denisovans for thousands of years, but questions remain about the timing of their stay. A pair of new studies traces the history of archaic human occupation at the site, showing who lived there and when—including a possible era during which the two now-extinct species hung out together."

Two new research papers.

[Narciso79]

It's like the nic Dennis Quaid gives Stanley tucci in undercover blues 'Morty' in stead of Muerte, fully knowing it will drive the latter up the wall.

[daddy]

Thanks, Narciso.

Jim,

Besides the other stuff I thought this was interesting in your link: Scientists have also been confronted with the limits of radiocarbon dating, which can only go back 50,000 years. If I knew that I had forgotten it.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Jackie Ickx, 1985, Porsche 956, Spa Francorchamps, Eau Rouge/Raidillon.
10 minutes of extreme tension, although it seems to actually be Jochen Mass driving, not Ickx.
Later in the race another Porsche would make contact with the rear of this car at Eau Rouge killing Stefan Belloff in the other car. Ickx driving at the time was not hurt but the accident caused him, an all time great, to retire shortly thereafter.The white Lancia ahead that Mass can never catch was the winner and faster car.

[Narciso79]

I was surprised by that, they have obviously sampled objects older than that but apparently it's not as accurate.

[GUS]

Andrew Cuomo, is sick liberal politician.

[daddy]

Jim,

Re: Your Metallic Wood link. I texted that to my Cal Techer and she just gave me some really interesting insights on some of the techniques and chemistry they are using in those processes to get good binds between the carbon nano-tubes and the metallic micro-substances, and it all sounds really fascinating and potentially amazing in terms of strength and weight. She's been doing a lot of work on exactly that technology in her lab jobs down there so thanks for posting that story. Unlike me, she's smart enough to know how to operate our Dishwasher.

[jim nj]

More on PG&E cancelling green contracts in bankruptcy.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/30/uh-oh-california-solar-and-wind-projects-at-risk-due-to-pge-bankruptcy/

They might be able to renegotiate them to get much better pricing. That would help consumers.

[GUS]

Jim Nj. GREEN CONTRACTS. Hilarious. And further the idea, that SJW 501 (c) 3's are probably part of the scam.

[Gentlejim]

Iggy,
Great video. Incredible hearing the tires squealing over the engine noise. Had to be frustrating to see the lead car repeatedly walk away where power mattered.

Here’s another fun one: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R1g07RpTPFE
Keonigsegg Agera RS 0-400-0 kmh

[GUS]

GentleJim, how cold is N Indiana tonight??

[Gentlejim]

GUS,
We warmed up to -16. It was -18, -45 w/wind chill, when I was out checking an alarm on the lake last night. That was wonderful.

[GUS]

Stay warm. It's still 24 below here tonight.

[Gentlejim]

I think I’ll go outside again Friday when I head to work.

[jim nj]

Daddy, I was vaguely aware that radio-carbon dating had limitations. I was really surprised to see that they can analyze Quartz, dating it by when it was last struck by light.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminescence_dating

The metallic wood process was fascinating. You can arrange small plastic beads in a structure, nickel-plate them, then dissolve the plastic - genius level thinking.

So far only small pieces in labs, but if they can scale it up to create specific objects at maybe the cost of carbon fiber - wow.

[jim nj]

GUS,

Yes. A lot of these "green" projects only exist because of political clout and subsides. And SJW types pushing them forward.

[jim nj]

Is it just me? I don't remember any projections of polar vortexes dropping down as a side effect of global warming.

Yet, some people said they did. Did I miss that? Or is this just lame excuses after the fact?

[jim nj]

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/bergen/elmwood-park/2019/01/30/marcal-paper-mill-elmwood-park-nj-fire/2726721002/

Unclear what the damage was. At least one building burnt to the ground. It's a large complex, so maybe not all of the mill was involved.

The lighted sign on the roof of one building collapsed. You couldn't miss that sign at night traveling west on Rte. 80.

Some of the previous fires at Marcal:

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/local/2019/01/30/fires-part-marcal-papers-long-history-elmwood-park/2728174002/

Very long video:
https://www.northjersey.com/videos/news/bergen/elmwood-park/2019/01/31/marcal-paper-factory-burns-ground/2729380002/

[Pinandpuller]

tell us what is the likely reason that gay guys like Tawana Smollett tie ropes around their necks, and lets get some solid questions and answers about what the rest of that rope was tied around. You guys at CNN owe that to the public, and to fans of David Carradine everywhere.

Posted by: daddy | January 30, 2019 at 04:19 PM

I take it you've never seen The Seven Ropes of Shaolin?

[jim nj]

Another thought on the wealth tax, which I don't like.

Why don't we get rid of the estate (or death) tax? Their are so many schemes out their to lessen its' impact that were created by lawyers and accountants.

It would reduce the creation of new foundations that, in the long run, get co-opted by liberals. Let large sums of money move tax-free to heirs without a trust structure.

Let them piss away their money if so inclined. Let them try to outdo their parents by funding new industries and creating jobs if so inclined.

Let these trust fund babies worry about money, rather than let them keep a life-long guaranteed income.

Create a trust fund conversion act with a 10% tax at implementation. You can pull all your money out of the trust with the conversion.

[Pinandpuller]

Chicago at 2:30 am a zillion below zero. No sane person is outside.

Posted by: henry | January 30, 2019 at 09:41 PM

They took Man Love off the DSM too soon.

[Pinandpuller]

Currently 20 below zero in OCONOMOWOC WI.

Holy ICE MELON Batman!!!

Posted by: GUS | January 30, 2019 at 11:03 PM

When it's -40 you can tell your UK family and they will know exactly what you mean.

[Pinandpuller]

The MOTHER??? How can there be a MOTHER, if there is no CHILD?

Posted by: GUS | January 30, 2019 at 11:35 PM

She's just a clump of cells and oppression.

[Pinandpuller]

GUS
Andrew Cuomo, is sick liberal politician.

Posted by: GUS | January 31, 2019 at 02:24 AM

One thing I like about you is you use three words when only one was necessary.

[daddy]

First of many Law Suits filed against Apple for that FaceTime eavesdropping glitch:

Apple being sued over FaceTime bug by Houston lawyer as it emerges the bug was first reported a WEEK ago by a 14 year old playing Fortnite

...Williams claims that Apple 'failed to exercise reasonable care' and that the company 'knew, or should have known, that its product would cause unsolicited privacy breaches and eavesdropping.'

...Williams was in the middle of a private deposition with one of his clients when the FaceTime bug 'allowed for the recording' of his private conversation...

...'Plaintiff suffered injuries,'...

seeking punitive damages against Apple and unknown parties, claiming negligence, product liability, misrepresentation and warranty breach.

He claims that the bug caused him to sustain 'permanent and continuous injuries, pain and suffering and emotional trauma that will continue into the future.'

[MissMarple2]

https://apnews.com/1ec41980b7574d85b356e605013ce721?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

Venezuelans fill streets of nation's capital

Includes photo and video.

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

Coincidence?
When the news is bad for Trump (actually bad, like losing the House not every MSM gotcha story) the price of gold rises a few bucks.

Over, say, the last 3 or 4 months it's gone from $1180 to $1320.

[MissMarple2]

daddy,

I want to make sure you see this:

https://in.reuters.com/article/archaeology-deadsea-scrolls/a-new-generation-takes-up-the-hunt-for-dead-sea-scrolls-idINKCN1PG1KW?il=0

They think there may be more hidden in the caves.

[daddy]

GentleJim, how cold is N Indiana tonight??

Cold enough GUS that a company I am familiar with declared an "Operational Emergency" for Indy tonight, so though I'd love to be heading there tomorrow for lunch with Miss M at Shapiro's, I'm happy I'm heading to LuLu's:)

[MissMarple2]

Current temp is -11 actual. Wind chill warnings in effect and a lot of closings.

daddy, I wish I were on the way to Lulu's, too!

[MissMarple2]

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/clapper-at-large.php

[Pinandpuller]

Hunting wild boar with flintlock rifle-Hungary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds14AUcdZ-s

[MissMarple2]

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/427706-one-arrested-in-incident-involving-motorcade-outside-white-house?__twitter_impression=true

It definitely was a motorcade with the Chinese trade delegation. Includes some photos and a statement from the Secret Service.

[MissMarple2]

Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen
‏Verified account @SecNielsen
9h9 hours ago

Thank you to @ICEgov HSI for their continued commitment to stopping human trafficking and to care for the victims. Agents have made 33 arrests and rescued 4 victims in the last few days alone in Atlanta.