How Do You Like Them Apples?

Apple reduces their revenue guidance and we are all doomed.

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[henry]

Yes. the move production to India, and China stops buying iPhones. Oooops.

[Narciso79]

That's possible, also maybe Tim cook is pulling a zak snyder on apple, crashing it against the rocks.

[Extraneus]

AAPL is down 37% since October.

[Neo]

WaPo:

But in their first day of power in the new Congress, Democrats must stave off a liberal rebellion after prominent Democrats said they would oppose the entire rules package that has been carefully assembled by Rep. Nancy Pelosi and a top lieutenant.

Rep. Ro Khanna (Calif.) and Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.) said they would vote against the rules changes -- in the second vote Democrats will take in the majority after ostensibly electing Pelosi (D-Calif.) as the new speaker -- because of the inclusion of a fiscal measure known as "pay as you go," or paygo. That rule, echoing a provision in federal law and in the Senate's rules, would require the House to offset any spending so as not to increase the budget deficit.

[henry]

Perhaps the new HQ jinx hit.

[Neo]

The Chinese economy is slowing .. a lot.
I'm sure the China market contraction was going on before they announced the move to India.

[Narciso79]

Nasdaq is a little less volatile,

[Neo]

What is interesting is that Chinese exports are only looking good now because exporters are trying to beat any possible sanctions.

[Narciso79]

Scratch that I was looking at the raw # not the percentage of loss.

[Marlene]

Good Morning! Jim Sunnyvale mentioned that a Dem governor in WI after Scott Walker will show what to expect from a Dem president after Trump. I agree,and take a look at Maine. LePage's personality is similar to Trump's. Rude,vulgar,blunt. Blah,blah,blah. We heard that for 8 years. The Maine media is giddy this morning about the inauguration of a Dem governor.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Trump is doing what Reagan did; when you know you have the public behind you on an issue, just keep banging it until the commiecrats cave.--

Exactly CH, which is why I hope he keeps tweeting about it endlessly, because he's winning.

--McCarthy urges compromise.--

But of course. No one hates winning quite as much as a GOPe squish.

[Old Lurker]

The rush to erase all things Trump, if he is followed by a Dem, will make Trump's reversal of Obama look like a glacier sliding downhill.

[Old Lurker]

I restate my question about who sees Trump's tweets that might have her mind changed by them?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told reporters on Wednesday,

"We want to make sure the border's secure, but more importantly, we want to make sure this government is opened."

Yes, because God knows the EPA harassing people and Joshua Tree National Park being open are much more important than terrorists and gangsters being kept out of the country.
And it's especially smart in a negotiation to tell the other side that you consider what they want more important than what you want. But then they aren't really "the other side" are they?
We the people are "the other side" to DC.

[GUS]

I thought this GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN and BORDER WALL situation had us near the APPOCALYPSE already.

I love the FULL COMMIE, they loved them some RUSSIA ....for decades. Ask Ted the Swimmer (heck you can't ask that drunk, he's in hell.) RESET!!!

Now they are falling head over heels for the CHINESE!!!! Has Chi-Fi been reached for comment yet??

[GUS]

Dear Mr McCarthy, you have even less back bone than PAULIE no nuts. When you say "we", is there a MOUSE in your pocket?

How about "Fuck You".

[Old Lurker]

"We want to make sure the border's secure, but more importantly, we want to make sure this government is opened."

And, right there, you have it.

A Government of the Government, by the Government and for the Government shall not perish from this earth.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I restate my question about who sees Trump's tweets that might have her mind changed by them?--

OL,
Are you assuming that is their only useful purpose?
Reinforcing the resolve of your base, badgering your enemies and any number of other things are reason enough to keep banging their gong.

Regardless, as of Dec 18th he was apparently changing someone's mind;
Support for Trump border wall sets record, focus on impeachment plummets: poll.

[Old Lurker]

We want to always respect a woman's right to say no, but more importantly we want to screw her.

[Old Lurker]

We want to always live within our means, but more importantly we need to increase the credit limits on our credit cards.

[Texas Liberty Gal]

House Conservatives Launch a Petition Drive in Support of Border Wall

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/house-conservatives-launch-petition-drive-support-border-wall?fbclid=IwAR24Yx0ObU103mmn00wlLJsaXjPxa9FRIVWOJjN6jfl39cCDAHa8sKtG3UQ

Here is link to sign petition

https://borderwallnow.com/bsn06/s

[Old Lurker]

Iggy, I know that in general his tweets are very effective for communicating over the MSM wall of silence.

But when they become repetitive, I personally wonder about them.

[Old Lurker]

We want to always use our military to win battles, but more importantly we want to be sure all 57 types of our citizens are fairly represented.

[peter]

Prayers for your wife and your mom, sbw

[Old Lurker]

The most useful thing about McCarthy's quote is it saves even the most forgiving among us from having to wonder if the GOPe has learned a damn thing.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

OL, you hit it on the head.

[Buckeye]

10 years ago I was standing on a downtown Shenzhen street. This was my third trip to Shenzhen, first was around 2000.

What struck me was the teenagers apparently walking home from school. They all had Apple earbuds in and were wearing western designer's clothes.

Chinese kids want iPhones just as bad as 'Murican kids. They don't give a crap where the factories are anymore than the kid next door.

Even when the factory is in their backyard.

[Extraneus]

Is McCarthy getting roasted on Twitter for that statement?

[henry]

OL, repetition is what the MSM uses against him, and is a key part of propaganda for influencing opinion (in the original Bernays version). So in that sense Trump being repetitive is appropriate.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The insightful Doug Kass on Apple.
He's not optimistic and blames much of its problems on its closed loop proprietary way of doing things which is what nearly killed it before the iphone came along.
What comes after the iphone?

[henry]

clarification from Chitown lurker:

Apple didn’t “move production to India”

Foxconn Added production in India.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--But when they become repetitive, I personally wonder about them.--

Very few people pay attention to this stuff the way we do, OL, so maybe extrapolation from our experience is inapt.

[henry]

Iggy, I think the plan was to ride the iPhone into the iWatch as forced on all by ACA to make sure we behaved the way the government wanted. Speed bump ACA, speed bump Apple.

[Old Lurker]

I hear you guys on the repetition.

[Old Lurker]

I hope Trump just says no unless he gets his $5B for real bricks and mortar. Let McCarthy join Pelosi, and then let Mitt lead the Senate to do the same. Make GOPe override a veto from Trump so the lines, if not the wall, is clearly drawn for all to see. Trump had best not have his fingerprints anywhere on the cave if it is to be.

I would rather have our champion leave the field defeated than to see him survive by abandoning us to the Swamp Critters.

[Old Lurker]

The first "tell" from the Senate will be where McConnell places Romney in the committees.

Stay tuned.

[clarice]

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/423558-exculpatory-russia-evidence-about-mike-flynn-that-us-intel-kept-secret

[Extraneus]

He can pull a rabbit out of his hat and have the military build the wall, but it would be best for the lines to be clearly drawn first, as OL suggests.

He's already threatened it and I can't imagine that's not the end-game plan.

[rse]

henry-that healthcare link I put up this morning that lays out bringing systems thinking and design to healthcare laid out the 8 elements of NQPS--National Quality Policy and Strategy on page 254. That Apple watch would be terribly helpful to at least 3 out of the 8 directly and all indirectly.

It says healthcare is a sociotechnical system. So are people under ed theory, which certainly explains the uniparty attitude, huh?

[henry]

rse, it helps to get a kickback from the panopticon builders as you enslave an entire planet.

[clarice]

Nice perspective from VDH:https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/2018-successful-year-for-american-economy/

[Dave (in MA)]

Like, what's going on with, like, the stock market today?

[Old Lurker]

Bernard Cornwell's 11th installment in his Saxon Chronicles is out. I dream of Trump wielding Serpent Breath and Wasp Sting.

[Jim Eagle]

We are an apple family. Computers, iPads, iPhones, AppleTV, etc. Have been for over 20 years. Just the other day, in the Apple store in St. John's Town Center, where BTW, they had to move from original location to a larger property, we bought Frederick an new 11" iPad Pro, and Mrs. JiB a Xr phone. The place was packed. We had to wait 20 minutes for someone to look at her older, large iPod Pro.

They didn't have a keyboard for the new iPad Pro, so I ordered one on line to pickup in Altamonte Springs store on our way to MCO for her and Frederick's flights up north. We got there a little after 10am when they open. Place was packed with people trying out not just laptops, and tablets, but larger packages with 48" displays, etc.

You can repeat this in every Apple store I have visited. If they are on the brink of failure, I don't see it.

[clarice]

https://phys.org/news/2019-01-sahara-swung-lush-conditions-years.html
Which year should we pick to keep earth's climate the same?

[Narciso79]

Heck it was in aquaman, it was the 6th or 7th kingdom.

[Dave (in MA)]

I hate Apple. I have a Mac and PC at work and I only use the Mac when I have to test something Mac-specific, and at home my wife has an iPod touch that she basically only uses to play one game, and I have an iPod Nano (a gift) whose buttons no longer work, so I use it as a USB device with my car stereo, albeit one that is 100x more annoying to use than a normal USB device because I can't just drag & drop file onto it; I have to use iTunes to "sync" my "Library", which I'm told is "more user-friendly".

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Iggy, I think the plan was to ride the iPhone into the iWatch as forced on all by ACA to make sure we behaved the way the government wanted.--

Unfortunately as Doug Kass put it, the iWatch is a rounding error.

--If they are on the brink of failure, I don't see it.--

Tech, hard or soft, is ALL about growth. Lowered guidance and slower growth doesn't mean immediate failure but a plateau without a successor is eventual death in tech.

[clarice]

We all use apple--Love it.

[rse]

clarice-this is a quote from a 2018 unesco document "Reconceptualizing and Repositioning Curriculum in the 21st Century: A Global Paradigm Shift". It makes the role of the Climate Change meme crystal clear and bolding is in original.

Climate change is persistently disrupting human livelihoods, while widening and deepening vulnerabilities. It drives the need for education for sustainable development and for the educational grooming of global citizens with sustainable lifestyles and exemplary environmental custodianship. This implies certain competences that have to be included in 21st century curricula."

We are surrounded by pols who cannot wait to see that we are suitably groomed to be malleable to their plans for us. The function of the panopticon without its obvious, visible purpose.

[henry]

popcorn alert:

KTLA
‏Verified account @KTLA

California Rep. Brad Sherman to introduce articles of impeachment against Trump

https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1080838757589217280

[Jim Eagle]

Iggy,

They have been forcasting Apple's death due to lack of innovation, and product degradation for at leas 20 years. Even when Jobs left and came back. I know a lot of people at Apple HQ from our MacMania trips, and they are always "going out of business", which keeps them innovating and developing.

If in the next 5 years they don't introduce more tech, or go status quo on existing tech, then I am a believer. Not now.

[henry]

CNBC Now @CNBCnow
4m

BREAKING: State Dept. issues travel warning for China, urges 'increased caution' and warns of Chinese authorities exercising 'exit bans' to keep U.S. citizens from departing

https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1080863544235749376

[Jim Eagle]

For all Ultima Thule fans: Presser at 2pm today, from JHAPL.

https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive

I wonder if they will reveal the IAU mandated name?

[MissMarple2]

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2019/01/02/gen-z-forgoing-college-attend-trade-schools-horrid-news-left/

[Jim Eagle]

And New Horizon is not the only remote space craft doin its thing. There is also OSIRIS REx, orbiting BENNU ready to land, drill down, gather a rock sample, and bring it back to earth.

Lots going on. Another batch of young American engineers and scientists running the show out of Arizona.

https://www.asteroidmission.org/?latest-news=nasas-osiris-rex-spacecraft-enters-close-orbit-around-bennu-breaking-record

[henry]

Iggy, Chitown says you have mail.

[MissMarple2]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/03/martin-omalley-2020-run-declines/

Throws his support to Beto.

[Jim Eagle]

Someone explain this, as a counter to MM's 11:37?

https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20171208/wyotech-to-close-ormond-campus-20-other-schools-to-follow

Whenever I would drive by it on I-95 the parking lot was packed with cars and trucks. Yet, they are closing 21 of 24 tech schools.

[rse]

This is a fascinating Establishment Clause case coming to scotus in late february. https://www.routefifty.com/management/2019/01/cross-monument-separation-church-state/153887/

[MissMarple2]

“MAGA list: 205 ‘historic results’ help Trump make case for 2020 re-election” https://t.co/vtqnUwdhjB

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 3, 2019

Link goes to photo and Washington Examiner article.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2h2 hours ago

The Shutdown is only because of the 2020 Presidential Election. The Democrats know they can’t win based on all of the achievements of “Trump,” so they are going all out on the desperately needed Wall and Border Security - and Presidential Harassment. For them, strictly politics!

[MissMarple2]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/2/mitt-romney-declines-endorse-donald-trump-2020-bid/

On CNN, of course.

I am not a bit surprised, are you guys?

[Buckeye]

Mrs. Buckeye binge watched Mrs. Maisel over New Years holiday.

She predicts that Midge will go on the 6 month tour and come back 6 months pregnant.

And not know who the father is.

[Dave (in MA)]

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[Old Lurker]

WSJ "A Saudi court opened the first trial in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, as the public prosecutor called for the death penalty for five of the 11 defendants."

And yet Lois Lerner walks free.

[henry]

Apple as part of a disengagement from Chinese IP theft? Perhaps, but the punlic explanation ties it to a "boycott" by Chinese consumers:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-03/apple-just-start-trump-econ-advisor-warns-pain-coming-heck-lot-us-companies

[henry]

trouble in prog heaven:

Vicki McKenna @VickiMcKenna
12m

"Madison mayoral candidate Toriana Pettaway is describing as "some White Supremacy BS" a decision from the city clerk's office that she fell two signatures short and is therefore not eligible to appear on the ballot." madison.com/wsj/news/local… @SheriffClarke

https://twitter.com/VickiMcKenna/status/1080870650200379392

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--They have been forcasting Apple's death due to lack of innovation, and product degradation for at leas 20 years.--

They have? I know they did prior to the ipod,ipad, itunes, iphone revolution and they had a point.
Seems to me the same point is looming again. As mobile phones come closer to saturation what is the next big thing and why should I assume it's coming from Tim Cook's Apple?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

RSE's 11:20 Unesco quote would make Orwell green with envy.
They're one small step short of saying we need to be "groomed" through reeducation camps.

[henry]

Iggy, per one of the longest running predictors of tech innovation, Apple is doomed.

https://geeknewscentral.com/2017/10/25/massive-shiny-new-headquarters-seem-to-spell-doom-how-do-tech-companies-fare/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I think the Federal government should build a great big shiny new headquarters.

[henry]

Iggy, as long as they build it on an ice floe and provide no lifeboats, I'm in.

[rse]

Iggy-this is the sentence after that quote:

"Social fracture and political instability: Beyond climate change, vulnerabilities are deepening due to injustice, inequity, exclusion, oppression, social fracture, and political instability. The 21st century is turning out to be among the most violent in human history."

henry- this popped out from a coordinted deceitful narrative on something bad ryan did on his way out with cconnell help--FEPA.

http://sdg.iisd.org/news/experts-provide-guidance-on-data-interoperability-for-sdgs/

Data interoperability and the true troubling purpose of FEPA are being misexplained by the same people who lie about the Common Core and SEL. When things get misexplained people seek a remedy and fail to notice the offered remedy actually also 'grooms' the needed citizens for transformative change.

[henry]

rse, that will allow gov't to keep all the privacy data they "protect" under a GDPR in a big global database (hacker nirvana). This is the rest of the Patriot Act end of the 4th and 5th amendments.

[Jim Eagle]

Frederick's latest on his iPad Pro:

A fusion of abstract expressionism, and graffitti:)

[Extraneus]

I switched from iPhone to Android and can't see why I would ever go back. The ecosystem is so much more open. For example, while Google won't let gab's app onto their Web Store, you can download it from gab to your phone and install it just like programs on PCs. No "jailbreaking" involved.

[Neo]

WSJ:

Mueller’s Report Will Be a Bore

The real truth about 2016 will be found in the declassified doings of the FBI and CIA.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/muellers-report-will-be-a-bore-11546298596

[henry]

from Chitown Lurker for rse and other interested parties:

Pure Climate Skeptic
‏ @Carbongate

The UN you magnificent Bastard. I've read your book!!!
One plan often mentioned involves the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government.

https://twitter.com/carbongate/status/1080882480423542784?s=12

internal link:
http://green-agenda.com/deepecology.html

[MissMarple2]

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1080878221330186242

This guy unearthed the estimates the EU thought were numbers of refugees each country could take. Pretty scary.

[James D.]

Your incoming Democrat House of Representatives, ladies and gentlemen...

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/269488770066313216

[Dave (in MA)]

Cool, Jack. It kind of reminds me of when I was a kid and we'd scribble randomly on paper with colored pencils and then cover the whole surface in black crayon, and then draw pictures by scraping the crayon with the point of scissors.

[Old Lurker]

MM 12:48.

IF I did all my conversions correctly, the overall density they suggest for the EU would enable us to fit 8.86 Billion people in the US.

No wonder they oppose the Wall.

[jimmyk]

James D, at least the responses to her on Twitter are uniformly pro-Israel. And good-natured too.

I hope she keeps tweeting away. Each one is probably worth 1,000 R votes in 2020.

[Extraneus]

I read about 100 comments from that tweet, James, and only one was supportive or what she wrote.

[Captain Hate]

Your incoming Democrat House of Representatives, ladies and gentlemen...

Minnesota and Hawaii deserve to be dumped to territory status, and probably Alaska. Fuck those places in particular.

47 is a good prime number.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

From henry's 12:48 link;

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."

This is from The Club of Rome's suicide note 46 years ago. How many irreversible tipping points have we passed since then and yet somehow life clings to the planet with twice as many people now as then?

[lyle]

The joo hate has always been bubbling under the surface of the criminal enterprise masquerading as the Dem political party, James D. Now it’s out in the open. Moar winning.

[Old Lurker]

Cap'n, there are good prime numbers less than 47 I could live with too.

[henry]

Iggy, all those Club of Rome things assume a closed system where no new knowledge appears. Thus step one, force that closed system to occur. Biggest enemy of closed systems? US Constitution.

[Neo]

A federal district court has ruled that the state of Oregon illegally infringed on a man’s First Amendment rights for fining him $500 because he wrote “I am an engineer” in a 2014 email to the state’s Engineering Board. The court ruled that the provision in the law he broke is unconstitutional, which opens the door for people in the state to legally call themselves “engineers.”

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/yw798m/oregon-unconstitutionally-fined-a-man-dollar500-for-saying-i-am-an-engineer-federal-judge-rules

[Old Lurker]

"Biggest enemy of closed systems? US Constitution."

They have that going their way.

[henry]

Indeed. And with Romney's blessing.

[Neo]

How is the Special Counsel is twisting the law to put ordinary Americans at risk?

Defense: If Americans "pretend to be someone they are not on social media and the gov't wants to, they can indict you for a [conspiracy] violation later"

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Delightful Oregon;
where they fine if you don't call a demented dude a woman and they fine you if you do call yourself an engineer AND YOU HAVE A DEGREE IN ENGINEERING!

[DrJ]

An irony is that while I have a PhD in Engineering, for state and most other government purposes I cannot call myself an engineer. That is because I do not have a Professional Engineer (PE) license. Usually it is more important for civil and mechanical engineers who work on big construction projects.

[jimmyk]

So add Oregon and California to the states that should be turned out of the union.

[jimmyk]

And speaking of California, are the GOP squishes doing anything about that ballot harvesting i.e. vote fraud that gave the Ds half a dozen seats in Congress? And if they can’t, then red states need to legalize it pronto. No doubt Mitt would frown on it, and Paul Ryan would proclaim “That’s not who we are.”

[henry]

jimmyk, banning that is why red states stay red.

[lyle]

So add Oregon and California to the states that should be turned out of the union.

Only the parts west of I-5.