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January 06, 2019


Another Bob

The Crimson Fried


Never gruesome, that's clever dave?


Lighten up, daddy... ;)

"No excuse, Sir."

Beasts of England

We got beat. A little surprised. We'll get 'em next year!! :)

jim nj


Coalition airstrikes in Syria doubled after Trump's announcement of a withdrawal. Hmmm.


What's the term for that, bring the rain?


The translation loosely is Belhadj's arrest ordered by justice (minister) is this the end of the moslem bros in libya



Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.


We discussed part of this earlier


The Kurds have gotten the stuffing knocked out of them, much more than the Palestinians what the diff in treatment


Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported...the “Lolita Express”

I'm confident that Bill was simply discussing the same things with this pedophile that he was discussing on the Phoenix Tarmac with Loretta Lynch ---"golf and Grand-children."



Yes, but WHOSE grandchildren?

Dave (in MA)

Hitting the links with Epstein and then banging somebody's granddaughter.

Captain Hate

So Gowdy's defending white collar criminals? Should be a seamless transition. Maybe he can get Sleepy Jeff a job there.

Captain Hate

Fuck Dabo. That worthless cocksucker still almost lost to iNCeST except he iced the idiot kicker.

Beasts of England

You tell 'em, Captain!! lol


I wouldn't have known except for the gope ambulance chaser at althouse was taking exception over some thing red squaw tweeted.

Captain Hate

Condolences, Beasts; it's not like you don't have other championships to think back fondly on. Dabo looks like Anthony Perkins in that goofy hat he wears.

At the other extreme, how 'bout them Dawgs.


Winning the future:



And tk should know the 3rd circuit ended the consent decree on the RNC and the DNC


In order to get people to risk everything there has to be a reasonable expectation of how effective it can be.

CH, where I might differ with you a bit on this is that while it is risky, with something as high profile as the FBI or CIA, there is potentially a big up side, since for many people you'd be a hero, and it's hard to believe there wouldn't be great opportunities opening up for you.

Or maybe you could do it the way Mark Felt did it, clandestinely. But it's harder in this case because there are so few honest reporters at the major media outlets. Even if you found the modern day "Woodstein" (as Nixon called them) their editors probably wouldn't publish the stories.


Amazing Narciso:

The Women Rescued from Boko Haram Who Are Returning to Their Captors

It's like "The Rape of The Sabine Women all over again.


Except they are volunteering to return to their captors like persephone to orpheus.


In fact, here's an example of what I was talking about in my 12:51:


Yes, she was fired, but now she's something of a celebrity, and she's written a book, Noncompliant: A Lone Whistleblower Exposes the Giants of Wall Street.


Atkinson strassel Cleveland kelly Hemingway chuck Ross Lee Smith Luke rosiak just a very select group who actually examine records ask questions, what reporters are supposed to do.


Ah Jen Rubin is a fan of the bulwark, who'd a thunk it?


And Ryan Costello goes full skydragon.


Fmr rep from Pennsylvania, they're like lamoreys.


Young mother is barred from her local pub for wearing a T-shirt saying 'Woman: human female' after a complaint that it discriminated against transgender people
Rebekah Wershbale said she was ‘stunned’ when a barwoman at the pub informed her she was banned because of the definition...the words discriminated against transgender people.

She told me that the T-shirt I was wearing was upsetting people because it was transphobic and not inclusive so I was barred. What she meant was that I was somehow offending men who say they are women because my T-shirt did not include them in the definition of a woman... It’s crackers.’
Rebecca Wershbale:

‘I sat down next to him and asked him how he was,’ Ms Wershbale said. ‘He said, “I don’t want to talk to you to be honest – please leave me alone.” ‘So I said OK and left it.’
The offended patron, Mika Johnson, pictured below:

Thirty minutes later a member of the bar staff named Heather came to Ms Wershbale’s table to tell her she was no longer welcome at the pub. ‘Heather said I’d been upsetting people and Mika was crying,’

Well now that I am "woke" I am horrified about what the Aliens will think of us when they come across Voyager 1:

"Voyager's Golden Record" NASA approach to creating a vehicle for preserving the record of humanity indefinitely.

How could we have been so damned blind, so horribly blind and judgmental, about Gender?

I blame Carl Sagan:(


Except they are volunteering to return to their captors

Narciso, it's almost as if the authors of that story are saying that lots of Black Africans prefer being Slaves to being Free. Who'd a thunk it?

I guess it's a "Black" thang.


Who the hell cares about your road trips and all the bullshit you spill. Really guy, you are a bore.

Posted by: Jack is Back! | January 07, 2019 at 07:55 PM

Some do. Some don't. Some don't care.

If you are working with the Kurds and you look to the left and then you look to the right and you don't see an asshole, maybe you're the asshole.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

daddy, aren't there some records of girls and women who were captured by American Indian tribes, and later chose to remain with their tribes when given the choice to return to white society?

How old were the Christian boys when taken away to become Janissaries? Did they ever desert, I wonder, or did they generally form permanent new ties?

A form of Stockholm Syndrome, no doubt. But human and basically universal?


Pin: you have to admit. your travelogue was a far cry from Jack's Hemingwayesque drunk-a-logues in the dark, by the sea. isn't that right, Jack?

Posted by: Kevlar Kid | January 07, 2019 at 08:08 PM

I think electroshock therapy is the answer. Too much or not enough. I think we all know I'm no Erma Bombeck.


I thought pin would have noticed the same sketch artist was used to identify both the strippers supposed stalker and the supposed killer of jasmine Haynes, do I have to spell everything out
Posted by: Narciso79 | January 07, 2019 at 09:25 PM

Heh-I totally got that!

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

I was trying to compare Mr Pin's stories with Jack's stories of restaurants, college visits, dogs, workplace/family reminiscences.
I think Mr Pin's are more literary and composed with a certain flair and style.
JiB's are more conversational, aimed perhaps at JOMers who've met him personally.


There's a person I have interacted with several times in Nashville. This person has a female first name and a Greek last name and by all appearances is a chubby lesbian woman. The thing is, she has facial hair going on that I don't understand. "She" looks a lot like Peter Sellers in Murder by Death.

I just avoid pronouns.


Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA | January 08, 2019 at 02:52 AM

See, I had a few ideas for JOM spinoffs:


JOM: Zero Sum Game


...epidemiological and translational evidence presented in this review indicates that continuous exposure of humans to exosomes of pasteurized milk may confer a substantial risk for the development of chronic diseases of civilization including obesity, type 2 diabetes mellitus, osteoporosis, common cancers (prostate, breast, liver, B-cells) as well as Parkinson's disease. Exosomes of pasteurized milk may represent new pathogens that should not reach the human food chain.


jim nj


That sounds like a load of crap. Of course we need to remember that milk is a gateway to substance abuse; fruity drinks, carbonated sugar-based sodas, carbonated alcoholic beverages like beer, wine and whiskey.
The mere act of suckling, or drinking, leads to all kinds of destructive behavior.

Thank god I woke to the evils of milk and only use it to flavor my morning Lipton Tea.

jim nj

And, my G-d, think of all the evil things they do to milk to create cheese.



I'm sure that's happened thousands of times in human history, but that it is happening today, apparently in not insignificant numbers, is a bit startling, especially amidst all the Global hype of #BringBackOurGirls.

If we pick the Jews as a starter population that is enslaved, first under Pharaoh in @1200 BC, then under the Babylonian Exile for @ a hundred years until Cyrus frees them about 540 BC, they actually are the odd man out in the Slave scenario, since they're the first population that was able to maintain their separate identity as Jews away from their homeland, something virtually no other mass people had done as far as we know prior to the Jews, and of course they've had thousands of years now in practicing that geographical separation since:) Pretty much every other enslaved bunch prior to them IIRC amalgamated or disappeared.

The Sabine Women, stolen by the early Romans in @700BC, fit the bill of those who were given a choice but acquiesced to their new lives and husbands.

The Janissaries (@1400-1850 AD) as I recall were young captured Christian children forced to convert to the Islam of their masters, but I also had the impression they were turned into eunuchs, and prevented from returning to their previous lives, in much the same way that the Chinese eunuched subservient populations, a good example being their great 14th Century Admiral, Zheng He---his parents murdered and him neutered, but then sent to the Imperial Court as a servant who rose by ability. But I don't see either of those cases as having opportunities to return to their previous lives and deciding not to, or after having returned to their previous lives, deciding then to go back to serving under their enslaving masters.

I recall The Unredeemed Captive as a great example in early American History of Massachusetts settlers kidnapped by Mohawks and one of their number refusing to return. I also recall reading where some of the white women captured by American Indians and also by Australian Aborigines deciding to stay with their captors, yet offering reasons like their new children, or the body scarring their new cultures had subjected them to had made them unacceptable as returnees to their previous "civilized" societies---that sort of stuff.

I know we have the cases you hear about of freed slaves after the Civil War allegedly returning to their former masters and asking to be taken back in since they knew nothing else. And the Stockholm Syndrome captors, and Patty Hearst, both eventually siding with those who kidnapped and held them captive. I'm sure there are scads more examples of such occurrences throughout human history but off the top, in recent history, I don't recall lots of cases of what this story is trying to get us to believe is going on. Obviously the media will love pushing a story like this so I have to say I'm very skeptical of it, and I would like to see the breakdown in the overall numbers of those who supposedly have made this decision compared to those who are glad as hell to be out of the clutches of the raping and murdering thugs of Boko Haram. Certainly an interesting topic.

Another Bob

I have a pet theory that’s probably garbage but that I like anyway.

There are things people have been eating and drinking for millennia. Bread, butter, eggs, meats, etc. If it were fundamentally bad for you, we would have genetically selected away from it.

It’s how I rationalize my wine and cheese consumption.

jim nj


Makes sense. Read an article tonight about food allergies. Allergies always trigger an immune response. Things your stomach doesn't like, or can't process aren't allergies, but food intolerances. If you don't get an immune response, but suffer from gastro-intestinal turmoil, it's not life-threatening, but something you should still avoid.

Over time, our ancestors would have avoided such foods, and, today, we find things we should avoid for personal reasons.

I can't process fat. I'm Jack Sprat. I thoroughly masticate my food and fat just won't reduce by chewing it.

So I spit it out. My stomach wouldn't process it anyway.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

daddy, it's only Wikipedia but a short intro to Janissaries.

Circumcised but not eunuchs. Taken at an age not so different than "our girls", certainly many with memories of their birth families.

The whole topic is fascinating.


Same old, Same old.

Breitbart: Jim Jordan, Doug Collins and Mark Meadows Take Action to Expose Ongoing DOJ Institutional Fraud…

Read the highlighted parts of the letter to US Atty Huber, wondering why he has not interviewed tons of guys he should have interviewed if he was doing a legitimate investigation.



Thanks JimS,

I'll catch it in the morning. G'nite.


What the Democrats are promoting when they say no wall.


"The drug epidemic has cost a great number of lives, and the federal government must stop the flow of drugs by building a border wall, and by using new technologies to detect intrusion into the U.S."

James D.

Just saw the dest of last night’s game. Holy crap, I did not expect that.

Condolences, Beasts.


I assume these are facts rejected by Pelosi:

Additionally, Last year at our Southern Border, DHS encountered more than 3,000 “special interest aliens”—individuals with suspicious travel patterns who may pose a national security risk—not to mention the many criminals, smugglers, traffickers, and other threat actors who try to exploit our borders.


Captain Hate

CH, where I might differ with you a bit on this is that while it is risky, with something as high profile as the FBI or CIA, there is potentially a big up side, since for many people you'd be a hero, and it's hard to believe there wouldn't be great opportunities opening up for you.

Chad Joy would beg to differ. He's out of a job for doing the right thing (in fairness he might have been a poor employee, although there's no evidence of that other than obviously being a misfit in a corrupt FBI) and hardly anyone even knows who he is (way to go, MFM). I think he's Exhibit A in why there aren't more agents coming forward.

I'm frankly surprised that I seem to be an outlying point on feeling this way.


Good morning!


I thought the road trip comments were great. I enjoyed hearing about Pin's meetup with Laura especially, but also with GUS and henry.

Lighten up, dude. Get a browser that does Killfile and just ignore who you don't like. What's the point of confrontations?

Posted by: Extraneus | January 07, 2019 at 08:00 PM

I haven’t used killfile in a long time, I don’t read all the travelogues but I don’t mind them.

They help us tread water on slow news days and I have learned a lot from /OT conversations.

Since some find the /OT bothersome, I really do recommend killfile as a personal answer that does not deflect participation.

Posted by: sbwaters | January 07, 2019 at 09:00 PM

Reposting for JiB's convenience.

Translation: those are polite ways--from long time JOMers, please note--of saying "it's you, not them."

Sorry if bluntness offends, but we know who you are in real life. So do all these folks you are lashing out at. There could be real consequences if you piss off the wrong person.
Reread what you posted Sunday evening. You basically called everyone "a basket of deplorables." Not to mention you aren't even naming the correct poster who pissed you off.

You may be happier hanging out at Althouse. Retired U WI Con Law prof, who likes to think she is "cruelly neutral" in her analysis of --everything. (Her commenters frequently correct that notion.)
But no denying she's got a set of skills.

She moderates comments, so you will not find stories of menus, wines, lost beagles or children (or killer carbs, or Thermomixes, or whatever lights your fuse) in the discussion of what FLOTUS's jacket means. She also has "cafes" where one is allowed to discuss such matters. (I assume; I've actually never opened a cafe post.)

But the vast majority of her commenters see the world from the vantage point of JOM commenters, bring many backgrounds to the table, and flesh things out.
Links are not as frequent, for whatever reason.

A regular reader will find the occasional Ralph L and (amazingly understandable--ALWAYS! Why IS that, narc??) narciso post there, and I do believe the rare jimmy k comment.
A woman who used to hang on JOM--?Dust Bunny Queen?--posts there as well. Whoever it is, she was before my time, but has been mentioned w fondness here.

Althouse commenting, just like JOM, has changed character over the time I've read it. The Leftists have pretty much moved on, as have most of the NeverTrumpers as well. So have people who I found spot on and quite clever in noting her total cluelessness re: the real world--she was soo stereotypically the sheltered academic prior to marrying one of her commenters ?maybe six years ago. She now bikes, cross country skis, and even leaves town upon occasion. In a car. No airplanes for the professor!
I think they got blacklisted by hubby. He's a traditional guy; didn't like seeing his girl made fun of, I guess.

So, not as much back and forth in the comments as she has come to see the light herself over time and the progs think she's betrayed them by pointing out the endless fallacies in their thinking, but it's not because it's not allowed. They left her.

PS--My invite for dry January stands. May do Lent as well. Anybody/everybody welcome!



Newsmax reporting that the Daily Mail is reporting that the Army Corps has already been letting some contracts.


VP Pence on CBS this morning with Major Garett. Video at the link:

“The American people will hear from the president tonight that we have a crisis .. And the time has come for the Dems to come to the table and start negotiating, not just to end the partial government shutdown, but to address the humanitarian and security crisis.” -@VP Pence pic.twitter.com/btNgDXP77m

— Norah O'Donnell🇺🇸 (@NorahODonnell) January 8, 2019
Ralph L

Actually, Althouse deletes only one person, who I think was a real-life PITA.

Mika was crying,

Should have told it to MAN UP!



I decided to take you up on your offer and started yesterday. (Possibly why I was able to stay up until midnight.)

However, my kids caught me sleepwalking around 3AM and trying to get into my son's closet. This is unnerving to me because as far as I know, I have never walked in my sleep.


moar fun:

‏ @Hevallo

DEFEND ROJAVA! Retweeted The Associated Press

Erdogan snubs US envoy John Bolton by refusing to meet with him after Bolton asked for assurances Kurds would not be attacked. Erdogan says preparations are under way for new military offensive into N Syria.



Rolf Degen @DegenRolf

"In a large Asian Indian cohort, we found that vegetarian dietary patterns were associated with a higher incidence of morbid obesity culminating in bariatric surgery."




Manchin gets Cuomo to admit that some sort of fencing is necessary.

Ralph L

I got Surber to delete a post! Yippee!
Oh wait....


Ralph, it's Trooper York I miss.
But never having been a faithful reader, I may have missed something outrageous, if he veered that way.

You would likely know far better than I.



Powerful volcanic eruption began yesterday in Papua, New Guinea. Maps and geologic data in the article.


Well there is one hydra headed troll, who does spew a lot, over certain thread there is one bulwarker (to coin a phrase)

Ralph L

My sister cut out coffee when she got a kidney stone a month ago. Had bad headaches for days from caffeine withdrawal. I'm told continuous alkies (as opposed to bingers) can't quit cold turkey safely, which is weird.


I cut back on coffee after the fall stone, but I cant go cold bean:




Lots of links about Chinese influence with the Clintons and allies, Chinese uranium mines IN THE US, stuff going on in the FBI, etc.

There are some things here I didn't know about. It's worth looking at.


VP Pence with Jonathan Karl on Good Morning America this morning. About 5 minute interview on linked video.

Vice Pres. Pence talks to @jonkarl on shutdown stalemate: "We need new resources. We need to build a wall. We need Congress to come to the table and work with this president." pic.twitter.com/Ncbx55dkSd

— Good Morning America (@GMA) January 8, 2019
Ralph L

I was offline for 4 years until 1.5 years ago. Althouse (and JOM) lost a lot of good commenters, including Trooper and Paladian. One of her best, Sippican, somehow deleted ALL his comments when he left, which was pretty obnoxious. bgates and Maybee show up there sometimes.



At least 11 people are killed and ski resorts evacuated amid avalanche fears as huge snowstorm hits across Europe - with FOUR FEET more due to fall in the next two days.

Photos and more information at the link.



How a Somali entered the US, then Canada, and conducted a car-ramming attack in Edmonton, Alberta.

Old Lurker

One percenters paid 40% of all Fed Income Taxes.

20% paid almost 90% (88) of all Fed Income Taxes.

Dems want them to pay their fair share.

And they don't like the jobs and pay raises Trump has created so they want US Corporations to pay 33% more Fed Income tax from now on.

And we wonder why the Left has so so many people who just love the crack they sell to the masses.

What I said yesterday...it is not that they just don't know what we know or they don't understand the consequences like we understand...they like it this way and want more of it.


How do you spell crowdstrike in german?



Yeah Chris Wallace is speaking out of his keester again,

Old Lurker

Cap'n...be careful out there on the end of that limb all by yourself.


President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

RalphL: I got Surber to delete a post!

Surber says the article the post was based on is from ... 2008


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
39m39 minutes ago

Economic numbers looking REALLY good. Can you imagine if I had long term ZERO interest rates to play with like the past administration, rather than the rapidly raised normalized rates we have today. That would have been SO EASY! Still, markets up BIG since 2016 Election!


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
28m28 minutes ago

“The President is the biggest and best supporter of the Steel Industry in many years. We are now doing really well. The Tariffs let us compete. Was unfair that the Steel Industry lost its jobs to unfair trade laws. Very positive outcome.” Mark Glyptis, United Steelworkers


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
26m26 minutes ago

Talks with China are going very well!

Old Lurker

Seriously though, where Cap'n does have a point is that many more troops in the FBI et al would come forward with me-too horror stories if they thought a sea change at the top had in fact occurred. That is one of the very predictable consequences of a White Knight charging in promising a restoration of L&O only to put steady as she goes leaders like Sessions and Wray in charge of the cleanup...while the White Knight tweets about how rotten things are over there and looks the other way as if somebody else is the CEO.

Ralph L

Jim, I pointed that out in the comments. I think Liz Cheney got it wrong, too, when she tweeted about Bale's arrest.


It doesn't seem any different than over here does it



OL, those landing forces sure turned out to be much ado about nothing, didn't they.

Captain Hate

You get it, OL. I'm tired of getting lit up by all these pie in the sky predictions about heads rolling in the DOJ based on nothing tangible. I'll admit that I expected DJT to take more of an interest in terms of how the skullduggery was aimed at him and his family but actual results thus far are very disappointing.

Advantage Swamp.


They have set themselves up high like the gund of navarone I remember the toy mockup with the second film in 79



I'm assume you are very thin. Fat eats fat. Sounds like you don't have any.

Old Lurker


One guy has styrofoam columns and the next guy floats old Liberty Ships with Landing Teams.

Hollywood comes to government and the caravan moves on (mixing my metaphors).


Ralph l, it's maybee I am thinking of, not Dust Bunny Queen.


Guns of navarrone, I call it the tripwire, they leak a pre spun narrative to their favorite recipients of leaks.


Come on ol, you're like ash in the field of well manicured zombies over in western ahore of maryland.


Pretty good article. I am always pleased to see somebody go after David French.


James D.

What I said yesterday...it is not that they just don't know what we know or they don't understand the consequences like we understand...they like it this way and want more of it.

That's exactly it.

The part the leftists DON'T know, because they don't learn or care about history, is that once they are fully in power, THEY will be the targets, because there's only so much room at the top, and most of them will have to go back to being peasants, or get shipped off to the gulags, where they will live out their days muttering "if only Stalin knew..."

James D.

re: Althouse - she truly amazes me, in one sense. She has a real gift for being remarkably irritating in her writing style, so that even when I am in total agreement with her, I still can't stand what she's got to say.


As with robespierre and danton, I take her prompts like a socratic dialogue

Old Lurker

Alexander Tytler explained his theory of that cycle in 1775 or so, James. He was right then and he is right now.

The proof of their attraction to Crack is how they rejected so emphatically the astounding reality of Trump Economy numbers in less than two years to give the Power of the Purse right back to their dealers in the form of the House. Even without a correction or a pull back, the mantra is going to be "more, harder" in 2020. Not going to be, is.


I meant althouse. In the last part of the sentence. Stalin trotsky Fidel camilo I dont think mao had a great counterrevolutionary foul but you get the picture.

Old Lurker

Ash in the field...that made me smile, Narc!


I was discussing those statistics about terrorists apprehended along the southern border ("just" 6 in the first half of 2018, NBC sneered) with my son.

I had mentioned to my daughter the other day that I had concern about terrorists infiltrating the caravans and also hiring smugglers, and she refused to believe me. She is concerned I am listening to scaremongers and such.

My son found that number alarming, because he wanted to know how many did NOT get caught. He used to have a sales job that required a lot of travelling to small towns, and he says people from around here (like my dughter) don't realize how vast and empty the southwest desert is, and how hard it would be for the Border Patrol to catch every single illegal border crosser.

Old Lurker

MM "My son found that number alarming, because he wanted to know how many did NOT get caught."

He knows how roaches and rats behave in restaurant kitchens, MM.

Old Lurker

We will know the world has ended when Janet and Mr. Janet get matching these:


James D.

I was discussing those statistics about terrorists apprehended along the southern border ("just" 6 in the first half of 2018, NBC sneered)

The response to whichever NBC spokesmodel sneered about "just 6" terrorists whould be:

"So you're OK with 6 more Boston Marathon bombings? Or 6 more Fort Hood shootings? Or 6 more Pulse nightclub massacres? You feel that's an acceptable price for American citizens to pay for your preferred immigration policies?"


I thought people bought Harley for the patented potato noise. What use is an electric? (What us was Elton John at the centennial?)

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