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[Account Deleted]

Foist?

[Narciso79]

Morning all, I was going back to those daily caller pieces and it turns out stone was telling the truth, it was credico who was dealing with the purloined documents

[Les Nessman]

Test

[Account Deleted]

From the thread last night, TK's important question. I offer a detailed, delimited answer.
+++++
"Until a majority of them speak up, I have no idea what they think. Is the Nathan Phillips event the type of think they should be speaking out about?"

TK:

please allow me first to qualify the following remarks--- offered in the spirit of civil discussion, not as rationalization, enablement, justification or endorsement of anything Phillips has taken upon himself to say or do at the Linc-Mem; and, certainly not giving a pass to his egregious misuse of spiritual medicine because of the circumstances of his life.

in total Phillips' behavior over time is at cross-purposes with the intentions of the spiritually fit among "us", who assign the responsibility to direct spiritual medicine in care of our people(s).

i make no claim to speak for all injun people everywhere.

in no way do i make any claim to be some kind of select individual over others.

my words are informed by a responsibility to accurately speak of traditions, to a point, which shares my limited understanding of what *MIGHT,* in all liklihood, be transpiring in various Circles which JOMers might not be a part of in any significant way.

1. being smeared by American media is something injuns are quite familiar with for many years.

2. whites were warned over and over and over again "If it can happen to us, then it will happen to you."

if Omaha People were to speak out individually there would likely be some "toldja so" in there, or "color us shocked at what's happening."

3. between the corruption issues faced by select Omaha Tribal Council members and day-to-day survival by reservation injun families, the politics of the Linc-Memorial incident are pretty far down the list of who needs to be "speaking out" about what.

4. with BIA and FBI strangleholds on every federally-recognized tribal council politics and process, tribal leadership is cautious about its commentaries to the press.

5. From a NE newspaper article 19 years ago about Phillips' activism: "Back in Nebraska, Omaha tribal Chairman Elmer Blackbird did not return calls seeking comment about Phillips' vigil.

Privately, another tribal leader said Phillips is regarded back in Nebraska as a well-intentioned brother struggling to cope with a troubled childhood. The leader said the Omaha Tribe generally avoids the type of activism Phillips prefers.

"He's just trying to find his way," the leader said. "Let him find it."

https://www.omaha.com/news/nation/who-is-nathan-phillips-years-ago-omaha-tribe-member-said/article_6cc049c4-d6d8-5e3c-8ee6-939a203682af.html

Thanks for reading, TK.

Kev

[cathyf]

Attn pilots and aeorospace engineers! Not sure if anyone else has posted this yet (I’m always behind on JOM *sigh*) but this Daily Mail story has video of the plane crash. The fuselage can clearly be seen doing this violent flexing along its length so that it arches up and slams the cockpit into the runway while the center top of the plane breaks apart. What the heck forces could cause the plane to break up in this way?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636051/Shocking-moment-Russian-nuclear-capable-bomber-crashes-fireball.html (you need to scroll down the article to the full video)

[boatbuilder]

Hey, TK--That Marcus King Band tune is a keeper. Great stuff.

[Narciso79]

Good thing it wasnt carrying nukes or it would have been a mess.

[boatbuilder]

Kev--perhaps the search engines block any such thing, but when I search "Condemn" and "Nathan Phillips" all I get is a whole lot of condemnation of the Covington boys and praise and support for the "Native American elder" Phillips.

Has any Native American tribe, spokesperson or representative publicly called out Phillips as a liar?*

If not--why shouldn't the rest of us be inclined to ignore and disregard whatever give credence to anything the "tribal leaders" put out? To me they have no more moral authority than that wussy bishop in Kentucky.

*You have clearly acknowledged that Phillips is and was in the wrong, but you are not a public spokesperson or representative.

[Captain Hate]

Why should the Aboriginal Americans even interact with the MFM after they underreported the EPA releasing toxins in a Navaho river and certainly didn't hold anyone's feet to the fire?

[henry]

Trump:

We are not even into February and the cost of illegal immigration so far this year is $18,959,495,168. Cost Friday was $603,331,392. There are at least 25,772,342 illegal aliens, not the 11,000,000 that have been reported for years, in our Country. So ridiculous! DHS

[henry]

Trump:

58,000 non-citizens voted in Texas, with 95,000 non-citizens registered to vote. These numbers are just the tip of the iceberg. All over the country, especially in California, voter fraud is rampant. Must be stopped. Strong voter ID! @foxandfriends

[MissMarple2]

Posted at the end of previous thread:

This is a thread on how the Airzona dem party is funneling Mexican PRI money into the dem party. Documented and has pictures. It's by a guy who used to be friends with some of them.

Here is the original thread, with interesting comments afterwards:

https://twitter.com/realJeffreyP/status/1086347512355717121

And here is just the thread in one-page format, for those who dislike trying to read the disjointed Twitter threads:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1086347512355717121.html

[MissMarple2]

Also posted at end of previous thread:

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/01/26/migrant-caravan-swells-to-12000-at-mexicos-southern-border/amp/

A little tidbit at the end of the story:

"Earlier this week, the border city of Tijuana, where previous migrant caravans arrived, reported the arrival on 100 Russian migrants who were seeking an asylum request to enter the United States."

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
2m2 minutes ago

Jens Stoltenberg, NATO Secretary General, just stated that because of me NATO has been able to raise far more money than ever before from its members after many years of decline. It’s called burden sharing. Also, more united. Dems & Fake News like to portray the opposite!

[MissMarple2]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mulvaney-vows-trump-will-build-border-wall-with-or-without-congress

Includes video.

[Catsmeat]

Great Pieces, Clarice! Love that you gave marquee space, as it were, for our host's views--and the throw-out to matt was great too.

[boatbuilder]

Don't have to interact with the MFM. The internet is free. How hard is it to say--this guy is a liar, doesn't speak for us and has disgraced himself?*

Instead...silence, and perpetuation of the original lie.

Which speaks volumes.

*I get that it is "hard" because it goes against the PC "narrative," and there is a long history of ignoring and even punishing harsher truths about abuse of native americans, etc,-which is what Kev is pointing out. But a lie is a lie.

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President. Picture at the link:

Strong people stand up for themselves—but stronger people stand up for others.

Thank you President @realDonaldTrump for standing up for America. pic.twitter.com/a1xGSDYQVz

— CC (@ChatByCC) December 7, 2018

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--"He's just trying to find his way," the leader said. "Let him find it."--

His right to find his way, ends at the point of the Sandmann kid's nose.

[MissMarple2]

Link goes to a tweet by Brit Hume, which links the Daily Telegraph article retracting and apologizing for their smear article on Melania.

Thank you to Brit. This is a very big deal in Europe. Fake News is the Enemy of the People! https://t.co/WX0o8gaiMC

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 27, 2019

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by President Trump:

Ken Paxton
‏Verified account @KenPaxtonTX
Jan 25

VOTER FRAUD ALERT: The @TXsecofstate discovered approx 95,000 individuals identified by DPS as non-U.S. citizens have a matching voter registration record in TX, approx 58,000 of whom have voted in TX elections. Any illegal vote deprives Americans of their voice.

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by President Trump. Link goes to a video interview with Kellyanne Conway.

“300 people are dying from heroin overdoses a week in this country, 90% of it is coming over the southern border… We’ve got to stop it.”—@KellyannePolls pic.twitter.com/h4E5TyV8Wb

— GOP (@GOP) January 26, 2019

[MissMarple2]

New York City Circa 1956, celebrating Easter.

-VS-

Today, celebrating abortion

via @NYGovCuomo pic.twitter.com/oRU8nz56XR

— 🍃V🍃 (@V_actually) January 27, 2019

Link goes to pictures.

[boatbuilder]

Off to the gym.

[Extraneus]

I should repost this from the end of the prior thread:

I haven't read further than Clarice's Piece yet, but the claim that @2020fight is a Brazilian account seems unsupported by evidence. The Daily Caller piece said the profile's picture was from Brazil, not that the account was:

The social media platform suspended the account with the username @2020fight for suspicious activity after CNN Business alerted Twitter that, while the account bio said it belonged to a California school teacher named Talia, the profile’s picture was that of a blogger from Brazil.

Based on the tweet's IP address, Twitter probably knows where it originated. Maybe this was settled in comments I haven't read yet but I wanted to point it out in case the claim is in error.

[D]

Agree completely with boatbuilder.
Phillips:
No condemnation, no apology ,no repercussions, no accountability.
His childhood was tough so he wants to make sure Sandman’s is also.
Despicable human being.
He will have to answer to God for his actions against children.
Bad piece of work.

[Extraneus]

"He's just trying to find his way," the leader said. "Let him find it."

Even if his "way" is character assassination by outright lying while hiding behind his native heritage. Got it, Mr. Leader.

[D]

One real consequence would be for a judge to formally shut this sideshow
Phillips is promulgating.Be a real man and own the lie you put out there.

[JimNorCal]

Firs... never mind

[D]

Ext:
Another real consequence would be exposing the poster at Fight 2020.
Media has no interest in holding people accountable nor does the Omaha Nation.
Can the Omaha Nation or Phillips be sued?

[Captain Hate]

Don't have to interact with the MFM. The internet is free. How hard is it to say--this guy is a liar, doesn't speak for us and has disgraced himself?*

Maybe they don't consider it that big of a deal, which it isn't. This is some pseudo event that the MFM tried to conflate into something that it wasn't, not unlike the Saint Traytable story which was based on lies.

I can certainly understand the attitude "why is this important to us?" if that's what the indigenous Americans are thinking.

[MissMarple2]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/25/new-york-college-dreamers/

It seems to me like Cuomo is pushing every single leftist policy at once.

[MissMarple2]

Why would the lawless, migrant caravan not take the Red route to the Hildago PoE in TX, ~1,300 miles, instead of traveling an extra ~ 1,400 miles to the San Ysidro PoE? 2 reasons;

1) CA is a sanctuary state w/ many sanctuary cities, L A, San Fran, etc.

2) 9th Circuit C of A pic.twitter.com/ugNdOsVG5Z

— BaghdadAviator (@BaghdadAviator) January 27, 2019

Link goes to a map.

[Buckeye]

The Left has developed a well-honed voting fraud mafia.

They will stop at nothing and we are getting our asses kicked.

Tide is going the wrong way.

At the risk of another lecture, until a couple "godfathers" take .338 lapua to the head, we are screwed.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2019/01/migrants-from-terrorist-nations-try-to-enter-u-s-via-mexico-at-record-rates-300-hike-in-bangladeshis-in-texas-alone/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Threadkiller]

I can certainly understand the attitude "why is this important to us?" if that's what the indigenous Americans are thinking.

If having an Indigenous Peoples rally is important to them for the purposes of letting the rest of us know the truths abut them and their culture, I would think they wouldn't want a liar capturing the front page.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I'm obviously not the NTSB, MM, but the Backfire buckled, IMO, because they hit the runway too hard and exceeded the design limits of the fuselage's strength. Since the nose gear was in the air, as it should be when landing, the fuselage had too much room to buckle before there was any support for the nose.
The engines sounded as though they were functioning properly but they did not seem to match the plane's position on landing. Almost certainly the pilot misjudged his height above the runway because of the snow storm and made contact sooner than he thought he would.
It buckled because there is only so much strength that can be incorporated into a thin aluminum tube that supports hundreds of thousands of pounds and is moving at a fairly high rate of speed. And it is not unknown for Russian constructors to cut corners.

[Threadkiller]

Thanks for the response, Kev. Getting a cup of coffee and scrolling back to read it thoroughly.

[MissMarple2]

This is a personal account of the emergency on the southern border by a rancher's wife. Worth reading to see what they deal with:

https://gab.ai/ezicash/posts/47213457

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Remember for decades how the Dems always scoffed at anyone who said they were really socialists at heart or they were really trying to normalize every perversion known to man and drug use and really wanted to ban gun ownership and outlaw speech they disagreed with and hated God and Christians?

In some ways it's very rewarding to have lived long enough to see them finally drop the mask and reveal their inner Trotskys.

[Threadkiller]

Glad you enjoyed it, boatbuilder.The Marcus King Band seems to have nothing but hits, IMO.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Maybe I'm missing something, but we raise holy hell when the media goes running to other republicans to demand they condemn whatever the media wants them to condemn and they do, but y'all are butthurt over the lack of condemnation by other indians for the actions of Phillips?

I don't get it.

[MissMarple2]

Stephanie,

Not me. I consider Philips to have been acting as an individual.

I personally doubt that he is very active in anything his tribal council does, and has apparently made a nice living as an actor and subsidized activist for quite a few years.

[Threadkiller]

The media has run to Phillips. That is what you are missing.

The media also ran to Fred Phelps and made him a representative of Christianity.

Maybe Christians didn't speak up then, I'd have to go check.

[Extraneus]

I'm not feeling any butt pain, but I still question whether the tribe supports the scumbag's actions, since they haven't commented. Just wondering how he gets paid back for the smears, since he's apparently too destitute to be sued, and I thought a condemnation by the real tribal elders might suffice. So far it's just crickets from what I've seen, though.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/26/donald-trump-donates-third-quarter-salary-to-alcoholism-research/?__twitter_impression=true

[MissMarple2]

Everyone forgets that the tribe may have commented on it but has been ignored in the press.

[boatbuilder]

The “finding his way” quote was from 18 years ago, and the Omaha guy wasn’t supporting activism.

[Extraneus]

Catsmeat, thanks for noting the latest Insty open thread lameness. I almost missed that one.

[MissMarple2]

Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. Video at link is worth seeing and listening to.

Jewish children singing "Hatikva" in a Hebrew school in Munkács 1930.

All of the Jews in the town of Munkács were sent to Auschwitz, only few survived. Never forget them! #Holocaust pic.twitter.com/uygimbGdus

— Hananya Naftali (@HananyaNaftali) January 27, 2019

[Threadkiller]

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--An independent Baptist church famous for its hate-filled protests is back in the news, and one Southern Baptist leader wants to make clear to the public that the church has no affiliation with the Southern Baptist Convention.
...
Westboro has received so much national attention the past decade that Baptist Press published a special story in 2003, "Night & day: The difference between Southern Baptists & Fred Phelps," which included an interview with Phelps himself and Southern Baptists who were critical of Westboro's beliefs. That story led to Westboro picketing outside the offices of the quoted individuals, including Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary President R. Philip Roberts, who had told Baptist Press, "Southern Baptists ought to take it as a badge of honor that he would boycott [us]."

Other Southern Baptist leaders have gone on record opposing Westboro's actions. In 2007 Southern Baptist ethicist Richard Land -- referencing the protesting of military funerals -- wrote a Baptist Press column calling the church "fanatical" and accusing it of practicing "verbal terrorism."

http://www.bpnews.net/32652/hatefilled-westboro-not-southern-baptist

[boatbuilder]

The Omaha tribe has publicly condemned the kids.

[Extraneus]

Thanks, bb. So not crickets after all, and just as I thought.

[boris]

I drew a distinction between overzealous activist lacking restraint and zealot destroyer of young men who are white or Trump supporters or both.

I read Kev saying ... as the 2nd, Nathan will reap what he has sown.

I also read the tribe as acknowledging only activist driven to civil disobedience.

Which falls short IMO but then again that's probably all they can be certain of, and as Steph notes it's not our place to ask for more of them.

There is a multitude from whom we can demand more.
Much more.

[boris]

"Omaha tribe has publicly condemned the kids"

Well I found where they blamed the kids before the full picture emerged. Have they doubled down since then or just gone crickets?

[matt - deplore me if you must]

That was heartbreaking MM.

I am going to guess that metal fatigue had a part in that crash as well. Russian maintenance is abominable and that type have been flying for a long time now. Hate to think what the Bears are like. We do a lot of X-rays of our aircraft but every now and the a wing falls off or there is another disaster.

[boatbuilder]

Crickets Boris-as far as I can tell. And I looked.

[sbwaters]

cathyf, there is a gauge in every cockpit that measures vertical speed. It is basically how fast and hard you hit the runway.

Typically, as the pilot gets to the last few feet of altitude, he pulls back on the stick to stall the plane out so that the vertical speed is almost nil, greasing the plane lightly onto the runway.

In the snow, the pilot misjudged where the runway was likely had no time left to bleed off airspeed. His main landing gear hit the runway like a hammer. Not pretty.

[Captain Hate]

ManBearPig was supported by Phelps in 1988. I don't recall the MFM bringing that up.

[Extraneus]

The 1/23 statement from the tribe's facebook page absolves Nathan Phillips, who was heroically attempted to diffuse the situation with the Black Israelites, just as Phillips dishonestly claimed.

They also say "Wi'btha'hon," thanking him for showing the world what it means to be a true Omaha.

https://www.facebook.com/omahatribeofnebraska

Link to statement.

[Extraneus]

More from the tribe's facebook page.

(Click to open pic.)

[Tom R]

Mueller having complete control over all intelligence documents is the only thing that makes sense on why they haven't been declassified and released by now *and* why Horowitz and Huber haven't made any progress to date

How exactly does Mueller have complete control over all intelligence documents from two completely separate investigations?

[Threadkiller]

ManBearPig was supported by Phelps in 1988. I don't recall the MFM bringing that up.

Exactly.

[MissMarple2]

Charlie Kirk
‏Verified account @charliekirk11

Imagine you’re a sitting President:

You pick your successor, weaponize the FBI, DOJ, & IRS against the opponent. You control 90% of the media. You have 2X the ad budget. You collude with foreign powers against the challenger, & you lose to a billionaire you claim is beneath you.

========================================

Kurt Schlichter says this is why Obama is looking so haggard these days.

[Captain Hate]

Not sure, Tom, but it would explain the lack of progress and why Horowitz and Huber have been skewered for not having interviewed key people.

[lurkersusie]

At Mass this morning our Pastor called out Andrew Cuomo
for the passing and celebration of the Reproductive Health Act.
He then went after Cardinal Dolan for his weak response.
Reminding the Cardinal about the sanctity of life.
He wasn’t done yet, then called out Bishop Foys for his
degrading comments and rush to judgment regarding the
Covington kids.
Tied it all together with the bishops and their past mistakes.

[Tom R]

CH @ 12:05

Sundance is correct that would explain the lack of progress (perceived) by Horowitz/Huber. However I think the entire premise is based on a false conclusion. I don't see any legal mechanism that would allow Mueller to prevent Horowitz/Huber from conducting their investigation. If he is actually doing that then it also means Rosenstein is authorizing Mueller to thwart Horowitz/Huber.

Of course there is another plausible explanation and that is Mueller and Horowitz/Huber are working together sharing evidence and intel on the criminal activity of the Obama administration and their investigations will wrap up around the same time.

[Extraneus]

What could Rosenstein have to do with it at this point? Whitaker is in charge now.

[henry]

And a third explanation: Mueller and Horowitz/Huber are working to sanitize all evidence and protect deep state. The lack of indictments it totally consistent with this. (Remember, Horowitz/Huber are Obama appointee holdovers).

[jimmyk]

Steph, you have a point, but this is mainly about the MSM's lies and piling on the kids, while protecting Phillips. It is a fact, though, that Republicans are very quick to condemn fellow Republicans even before the facts are established, while the left just closes ranks. The result is perpetration of the big lies, like the one about Trump condoning white supremacy at Charlottesville.

[Tom R]

What could Rosenstein have to do with it at this point? Whitaker is in charge now.

I had read somewhere a few weeks back that despite Whitaker's appointment as acting AG Rosenstein was still overseeing Mueller due to some legal technicality. If that is incorrect and Whitaker is in control of Mueller, then that would just mean Whitaker is authorizing Mueller to thwart Horowitz/Huber.

[Captain Hate]

Of course there is another plausible explanation and that is Mueller and Horowitz/Huber are working together sharing evidence and intel on the criminal activity of the Obama administration and their investigations will wrap up around the same time.

If that was the case it would be one of the most elaborate and well hidden stings ever. I just don't see any evidence of it other than DJT saying everything would come out at the right time.

[Captain Hate]

The result is perpetration of the big lies, like the one about Trump condoning white supremacy at Charlottesville.

Still waiting for the MFM to show the slightest curiosity about the organizer of that...

[boris]

"this is mainly about the MSM's lies and piling on"

I think that is also Stephanie's point.

And mine.

By suggesting focus on the tribe's response is a distraction.

But okay, you can't call the elephant a distraction without talking about the elephant so there's that to confuse the issue.

[Extraneus]

Why haven't non-MFM investigators looked into it?

[Tom R]

CH @ 12:21

How many leaks have their been from both the Mueller SC and the Horowitz/Huber investigations? AFAIK the number is close to zero. IMO that is unprecedented in Washington DC.

[boris]

"condoning white supremacy at Charlottesville"

Or asking Putin to hack Hillary's emails.

[henry]

How many leaks come from things that don’t exist?

[Captain Hate]

Stone's arrest was most certainly leaked to CNN.

[Captain Hate]

Why haven't non-MFM investigators looked into it?

Whoever is defending the driver who hit and killed the protester surely has.

[Tom R]

How many leaks come from things that don’t exist?

OK. Using your logic if Mueller was trying to destroy Trump the lack of leaks of anything damaging to Trump is a sign that he isn't actually trying to destroy Trump right?

[D]

Henry:
I like your third explanationabout the clean- up and cover- up perpetrated by Mueller, Huber and Horowitz.
Remember those lost or destroyed texts or emails between Page and Strzok .
Part of the clean-up.
They are however looking for a scapegoat or two.
People going down in my opinion:
McCabe,who already senses they want him as a fall guy
Comey: Because both sides know he is a sleazy piece of crap
Strzok: Because he is expendable and creepy
Brennan: Because President Trump really dislikes him, he is a communit and his security clearance is gone and he instigated the whole dossier kerfuffle.
Rice will get hers but Powers won’t because she already blamed others.
Yatesno ditto for Priestap.
Bruce Ohr- no wife- maybe
Hillary- yes wrt Clinton Foundation - probably a fine and return some money to Russia
Obama- no too protected by plausible deniability.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

That quote of Nathan Phillips on his picture is pretty funny in a couple of ways.

"We never had a prison."

Many parts of North America were incredibly violent and slavery was fairly common, the slaves consisting mostly of captives taken in the frequent tribal warfare. The tribe was the prison to those unlucky enough to be captured.

"This is indigenous land. You're not supposed to have walls here. We never did for a millennia."

We're supposed to take the fate of Native Americans as an example of how unwise it is to have walls? Not sure he has quite thought this one through all the way.

[D]

Mueller in my mind isn’t working on convicting Obama in any way shape or form.
Because he worked for Obama and is involved in Uranium he is protecting or covering for Obama and probably Hillary too.
Wray needs to be fired, Barr bump up, Whitaker strengthened and Rosenstein resign.

[Extraneus]

So we now know this about the Obama Indians:

a) They knowingly allow a complete and proven lie to stay on their web page, praising the liar as their representative.

b) Although they're from Nebraska, they oppose the border wall.

c) They mock the MAGA slogan.

In other words, they're Democrats, and should be treated as political actors and opponents.

I'm ok with that. Better to see people for who they are than to romanticize them based on idealized notions of the noble savage, in this case.

[MissMarple2]

Meet Irena Sendler: The Polish woman who saved 2,500 Jewish children
During the Holocaust, she was the driving force behind a critical operation, saving the lives of 2,500 Jewish children by smuggling them out of the Warsaw Ghetto.pic.twitter.com/5bPZl3SR0z

— PolishPatriot™️ (@PolishPatriotTM) January 7, 2019

Video at link.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Whoever is defending the driver who hit and killed the protester surely has.--

If so it must not have helped since the guy was convicted of first degree murder not long ago.

[Extraneus]

Heh, that was a typo.

Obama Omaha Indians

[Manuel Transmission]

From one of my buds:

I don’t know why it took me so long to come up with a solution to the problem in Venezuela as it’s completely obvious. Immediately send the people with all the answers to Maduro. Send Nancy Alzheimer, Crying Chuck, Occasional Cortex and the Oracle of Inglewood (Mad Max herself) down to Venezuela with orders not to come back until it’s fixed. Maduro will capitulate, or we’ll get lucky and see the delegation in chains. Either way it’s a win.

[henry]

Mueller is leaking like a sieve. That it turns out to not damage Trump except by innuendo is why he keeps looking for anything he can add to his “impeach Trump” report, which I expect early October 2020.

[D]

Ext:
Excellent summation!
Kudos Clarice on another fabulous column!

[Tom R]

Mueller is leaking like a sieve.

I take it you didn't like your logic being applied against one of your points to counter it?

BTW if you can provide some links with facts to back up your claim I would appreciate it. I'll give you the Stone arrest kerfuffle.

[D]

Henry:
Also true!
Mueller wants President Trump’s head on a pike.
Why the continued badgering about in person testimony?
People need to wake up and smell the coffee.I will make it easy:
Phillips:- very bad damaged guy
Mueller:In last hurrah fashion trying to establish a legacy as a person who toppled a president: misguided bad guy
Brennan: really bad guy
Pelosi: really demented bad woman
Schumer:schmucky loser who cries a lot and throws tantrums which he then attributes to our President. Liar
Rosenstein: out for number one himself, would wear a wire if he thought he could advance from it.
McCabe: one whose comeuppance is very nearly here
Cohen :

lying piece of crap who of everyone deserves the jail time.
Manafort: criminal who thought he was in the clear only to get nailed later because he helped Trump.
Mistreated by Mueller and thugs
Weissmann : the dog that hasn’t barked.
Charges will be brought but slap on the wrist.

[henry]

The Stone attest, leaked by Mueller to CNN refutes the notion Mueller is leaking.

[henry]

Arrest... auto cucumber on a roll here.

I’m not presenting “logic” per se, just introducing alternative solutions to your “fact” sets.

I’m content with things being just what they seem on the surface until
That null hypothesis is rejected by new facts— which have not appeared to date.

[Tom R]

So the Stone arrest is the only example you have to back up your point?

How many leaks come from things that don’t exist?

I think your logic reinforces the notion that since there have been no leaks for the entirety of the SC investigation that are damaging to Trump, that is a clear indication that Mueller isn't going after Trump.

[D]

These requests for links and all that garbage annoys me.
I do not need a link or someone else’s bloviating opinion.
I use common sense and Occam’s razor as my guide.

[Captain Hate]

If so it must not have helped since the guy was convicted of first degree murder not long ago.

Maybe he didn't have a good attorney or maybe he was just guilty period. Or maybe the jury was a bunch of illiterate Virginians. And maybe anything about the organizer was inadmissible.

But if the attorney was competent he'd have a file on the organizer.

[henry]

The NYT and WaPo have daily leaks. Go find them .

[clarice]

Ext--thanks for the info. I think I was relying on a twitter post--perhaps poorly remembered--that it came from Brazil. Nevertheless as the Flanagan account show this was clearly a set up job.I think to disparage the March for Live and Trump supporters.