Normally David French does a terrific job at the National Review (I'm a HUGE fan of his Gun Violence Restraining Order piece) but... he is off the rails with his follow-up to this tweet:
By the way, the porn affairs and hush money payments by themselves are enough for me to never, ever vote for Trump. And that’s just one thing, of many. I remember the days, like way back in, say, May 2015, when that would have been a consensus Evangelical position.
That provoked this somewhat off-message response:
The difference is, unlike you, the evangelicals started thinking politically rather than moralistically. Moralism has its place, of course, but prudence must inform it and direct it. Aristotle (or even Aquinas!) should be our guide. You seem to prefer Kant.
Why is this off-message? Because it creates a false dichotomy between "thinking politically rather than moralistically".
Dealing with a lesser of two evils situation is a moral question that, believe it or not, precedes Trump. Here for example, is a Christian minister citing Aquinas and "the moral principle of double effect":
Saint Thomas Aquinas, in his Summa Theologiae, established the moral principle of double effect. (II-II.64.7) Four conditions must be met for someone to act righteously despite bad consequences. First, the act itself must be good or at least amoral. One could argue that voting is a good deed or at least morally indifferent. Secondly, the good effect cannot be achieved by means of the bad effect. The Machiavellian policy that the end justifies the means is wrong; nothing justifies sinful methods. Thirdly, one must intend only the good effect. The other is an involuntary repercussion.
To illustrate, physicians routinely prescribe medicines to patients notwithstanding unfortunate side-effects. Finally, the good effect must be proportionately greater than the evil effect. For instance, driving through a red light when there is no traffic in the middle of the night is better than waiting for it to turn green when rushing someone urgently to a hospital.
There was Terry Drew, who sat in the seventh pew on the left side, who knew and agreed with Trump’s position, and knew that supporting him involved a blatant moral compromise.
“I hate it,” he said. “My wife and I talk about it all the time. We rationalize the immoral things away. We don’t like it, but we look at the alternative, and think it could be worse than this.”
The only way to understand how a Christian like him could support a man who boasted about grabbing women’s crotches, Terry said, was to understand how he felt about the person Trump was still constantly bringing up in his speeches and who loomed large in Terry’s thoughts: Hillary Clinton, whom Terry saw as “sinister” and “evil” and “I’d say, of Satan.”
“She hates me,” Terry said, sitting in Crum’s office one day. “She has contempt for people like me, and Clay, and people who love God and believe in the Second Amendment. I think if she had her way it would be a dangerous country for the likes of me.”
Not a Hillary fan. The minister also wrestled with his support for Trump but settled on the notion that God sometimes uses flawed messengers:
The dilemma was that Trump was an immoral person doing what Crum considered to be moral things. The conservative judges. The antiabortion policies. And something else even more important to a small Southern Baptist congregation worried about their own annihilation.
“It encouraged them that we do still have some political power in this country,” said Crum.
When he prayed about it, that was what the voice of God had told him. The voice reminded Crum that God always had a hand in elections. The voice told him that God used all kinds of people to do his will.
“Nebuchadnezzar,” Crum said, citing the pagan king of Babylon who was advised by godly men to tear down an old corrupt order. “Even sometimes bad leaders are used by God.”
No spoiler on how the minister talked about Trump during the sermon.
Won't be caught up for a while, as my laptop is being commandeered this evening by the boy, his having been evidently stolen at school today! BUT, narciso, I much appreciate your point about The Time Machine. I just had my grad seminar read it and chapters of Galison's Einstein's Clocks, Poincare's Maps, and also had them write on how well Wells accounts for changing ideas in his day about time/space. I told them "choose time or space." Many of them rose to the challenge magnificently, pointing out the silliness of "momentum" throwing the Time Traveler forward when he arrives at 801,702 A.D. (or whatever it is). Two students wrote that since he's traveling in time, not space, "momentum" should be of time, not space, and he should thus be thrown forward a year or so, not a meter. But not a single one of them got your point, which I DID knew and pointed out to them, that the earth is never in the same space in the universe ever, not just because we rotate but also because the universe expands at increasing speeds. Wells imagines the Time Machine always returning to the same coordinates in his London suburb. Wells wouldn't have known about the expanding universe, but he did know about the rotation of the earth around the sun. So your note was much appreciated!
Posted by: Catsmeat | February 28, 2019 at 06:30 PM
@ChuckRossDC
Judge Orders Release Of Christopher Steele Deposition dailycaller.com/2019/02/28/jud… via @dailycaller
https://twitter.com/chuckrossdc/status/1101248095269064705?s=21
Posted by: henry | February 28, 2019 at 06:32 PM
MM, our childhood illness histories and memories are nearly identical, five kids part too! And the mumps missed me as well! Though my youngest sister is 12 years younger than I am, so she missed being in the measles and chicken pox lovefest. And we were NOT allowed to scrath at all. Period. The end. NO! So emphasized that I had the feeling you died or something equally horrendous if you did..
Lots of calomine lotion on cotton balls. Felt so good!
Posted by: anonamom | February 28, 2019 at 06:33 PM
https://twitter.com/GregRubini/status/1101235021015334912
WARNING The New York Police Department has received intelligence information warning of potential attacks against officers. - [THREAD]
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Please read and warn anyone you know who might be under threat. It's MS-13 in Long Island, but Queens and Brooklyn might also be in danger.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 06:36 PM
The buzzfeed suit (which was dismissed) included sealed depositions of Steele and Kramer (McCain aid) re dossier sourcing and distribution. To be unsealed March 14. (Yay Florida Judge).
Posted by: henry | February 28, 2019 at 06:39 PM
My son had a really bad case of chicken pox around age 4 - he was covered in them. I clearly remember that morning when I was in the kitchen and his 1-year-old sister was in her high chair. I had given her some cheerios to snack on while I finished her breakfast. I turned back around and a huge "pox" had appeared right on her forehead. She only had maybe 2 or 3 other spots but, like several of you, that one on her forehead left a small scar. I remember putting socks on her hands to keep her from scratching in her sleep. Obviously it didn't work.
Posted by: Momto2 | February 28, 2019 at 06:41 PM
anonamom,
My mother was just not one to run the anti-scratch patrol. My dad wasn't worried, since he had survived typhoid as a kid. LOL!
Now I am remembering when my brother ran through the smoke as my dad was burning brush and got poison ivy from the smoke all over his body! He almost had to go to the hospital.
I also got impetigo on my knee when I was in 3rd grade.
It's a wonder we all survived.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 06:47 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/28/holland-cruz-education/
I am not quite understanding how this would work, but at least Cruz is trying to figure something out to help families and students.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 06:49 PM
Ha! @ 6:30. (I must have missed narciso's comment.)
That one post was worth this month's JOM subscription price.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 28, 2019 at 06:49 PM
Glad to hear about the Bing pics, Ig. Between Bing and mostly DuckDuckGo, I'm proud to say that Google doesn't know anything I've searched on in months, except for the few things that would do them no good to know. (French translation, anyone?)
Posted by: Extraneus | February 28, 2019 at 06:55 PM
About a month ago, my wife was complaining about a pain in her back below the shoulder blade and she said it kept her up at night. And then about two weeks ago she came flying out of the bathroom asking what's this rash on my side? I took a picture and showed her and she said, "I think it's shingles" It is!
Posted by: Rocco | February 28, 2019 at 06:55 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/28/melania-announces-three-state-tour-be-best/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=atdailycaller
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 06:57 PM
According to GAB, everyone loves Dissenter.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 28, 2019 at 06:58 PM
No bias there, Ext.
Posted by: henry | February 28, 2019 at 07:01 PM
Pin asked yesterday if we ride horses up here in Wintertime.
I think horse-riding has been overcome by events: Fairbanks biker sizzles on snowy trail to win 300-mile Iditarod Trail Invitational
Flaharty’s time of 1 day, 23 hours, 54 minutes was nearly six hours short of the 2015 race record set by John Lackey...
“The weather was phenomenal,” Petervary said from McGrath. “Big, blue sky, great sun and temperatures were ideal, meaning between 20 and negative-15. We like it around zero for riding, because you don’t sweat as much.
But there's more:
The Iditarod Trail Invitational is one of a handful of human-powered wilderness endurance races held on portions of the Iditarod Trail. The ITI includes 150-mile race to Rainy Pass, the 300-mile race to McGrath and a 960-mile race to Nome.
Claiming victory in the 150-mile race from Knik to Rainy Pass was biker Crispin Studer of Canada. He finished in 1 day, 11 hours, 29 minutes.
The leader of the 960-mile race, biker Troy Szczurkowski of Australia, was expected to reach McGrath on Wednesday evening.
These guys are nuts.
Posted by: daddy | February 28, 2019 at 07:01 PM
As a test, I just posted my first Dissenter comment, using this JOM URL. I'll check for replies if anyone else wants to try.
If they're smart, GAB will bulletproof their site. I would check out hosting in Australia.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 28, 2019 at 07:06 PM
--Glad to hear about the Bing pics, Ig.--
It makes it so much easier, but half the time I forget and sit there sifting through all sorts of images I could use but don't until it dawns on me what a dope I'm being.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 28, 2019 at 07:08 PM
Iggy,
Saw your comment on the McLaren my neighbor has. But a 720S is only 515K, not in the millions you threw out there. But he could probably afford that one also.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 28, 2019 at 07:09 PM
The Daily Wire
Verified account @realDailyWire
Poll
Sanders 26%
Biden 22%
Harris 10%
Warren 7%
O'Rourke 5%
Klobuchar 4%
Booker 3%
RANCH DRESSING 2%
Gillibrand 1%
I assume this is taken from democrats. Can't find the pollster yet.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 07:11 PM
daddy,
Riding a bike in the freaking desert is nuts also.
Catsmeat, you are an exceptional professor/teacher to explain that dimesion of time to your students. They could all end up like AOC without a clue.
Posted by: Jim Eagle | February 28, 2019 at 07:17 PM
Catsmeat,
Finished Chapter 1 last night and enjoyed Alice doing her times tables.
‘Let me see: four times five is twelve, and four times six is thirteen, and four times seven is—oh dear! I shall never get to twenty at that rate!’” (23)—has been shown to be mathematically correct if one is allows for changing mathematical bases: “Four times 5 actually is 12 in a number system using a base of 18. Four times 6 is 13 in a system with a base of 21” (A. L. Taylor 46). If the progression is continued with the base increasing at each step by 3, as A. L. Taylor explains, the products “keep increasing by one until we reach 20, where for the first time the scheme breaks down” (46-7). And so Alice will in fact never get to twenty at that rate.
Chapter 2 tonight if I can stay awake) My problem is that your footnotes are as interesting as the text so I have to go back and wander down each one of those Rabbit Holes, chasing those fun topics.
Posted by: daddy | February 28, 2019 at 07:18 PM
You're welcome catsmeat, one would also have consider the planar position, which might be two more variables.
I noticed from your piece on horrible hollis French, who was the white private maytag btw, that petumenos was the hearing officer, recall he gave the huntress a clean bill of health on travelgate, but denied her request on the legal defend one, it's like hes the gatekeeper at asghard.
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 07:18 PM
Yeah JiB, the F1 is twenty years old. I can remember when you could get a new one for under a mill.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 28, 2019 at 07:20 PM
Have the Dems chosen the Cohen accusation they want to go with for impeachment?
Posted by: Extraneus | February 28, 2019 at 07:27 PM
I think this got posted back a couple days but I was skimming fwd and missed it. Leftie writer wonders Did CNN Stack The Deck In Bernie's Town Hall?
Heh
h/t BJG
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/02/did-cnn-stack-the-audience-for-bernies-town-hall-l.html — CNN shafts Bernie.
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 07:28 PM
I didnt know of this work, which had a new translation:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/580081/the-prisoner-by-marcel-proust/9780143133599/
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 07:29 PM
Have the Dems chosen the Cohen accusation they want to go with for impeachment?
Interesting that they want him back mid March, isn't that when Muellers report is due?
Posted by: Rocco | February 28, 2019 at 07:30 PM
Who was the blond questioning Cohen? Straight blond hair, resembled Blackburn a bit but in Congress.
Posted by: Pinandpuller | February 28, 2019 at 07:32 PM
Why Michael Cohen was ultimately a dead end:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/29562112.html
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 07:32 PM
MissM 7:11
I'm definitely voting for Ranch!
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 07:32 PM
Maloney from New York I think,
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 07:35 PM
In Tundra no one can hear you sweat.
Posted by: Pinandpuller | February 28, 2019 at 07:36 PM
Blackburm as gargoyle strigoi or urukhai.
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 07:37 PM
I wonder if jim nj will be inspired to research this one ...
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/does-north-korea-have-nukes-in-satellites-above-the-us-the-answer-to-that-question-appears-to-be-th/
DOES NORTH KOREA HAVE NUKES IN SATELLITES ABOVE THE US? T
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 07:39 PM
Rocco, March 14 is the unsealing of Steele & Kramer’s depositions (Buzzfeed suit). That might cause a reshuffling of Schiff’s script.
Posted by: henry | February 28, 2019 at 07:40 PM
Posted without comment except to say there are lessons in human nature here.
https://mobile.twitter.com/LawrenceKS_PD/status/1101211158642675712
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 07:45 PM
No one has responded, and I don't remember who originally commented on it, but I agree that both Trump and Kim needed to walk away to not look weak to their own sides. Trump doesn't give anything up and Kim shows that he stands up to Trump.
More kabuki than anything the DoJ has been engaged in.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 28, 2019 at 07:45 PM
Great way to choke someone using the great Dan Gable's grip.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 28, 2019 at 07:45 PM
Jim,
That is very disturbing.
Now I understand Space Force.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 07:51 PM
Extraneus,
That was from a tweet I happened upon this morning.
ChiTown pretty much agreed with it, as he felt the kabuki is designed to make people on both sides WANT the agreement, and he also agreed that he thinks the deal already is done.
However, that post about the NK satellite overhead gave me pause.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 07:56 PM
Yes there is some of that certainly
https://mobile.twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1101159636168835074
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 07:59 PM
Here we go.
Trump ordered Kelly to approve Kushner's top-secret clearance: report
I'm sorry, what kind of a douchebag would write an "internal memo" on that topic?
I was in DC when the cabbies were all tuned in to this last year.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 28, 2019 at 07:59 PM
If you had chicken pox, the chicken pox herpes virus lies dormant in your nerves until it doesn't. Then it hurts.
So was it Shingles which killed the Martians in "War Of The World," or some other chickens**t virus?
Posted by: daddy | February 28, 2019 at 08:00 PM
I have no doubt North Korea made their satellites look like EMP bearers, but the only value of NK nukes is as potential weapons, not real ones.
If we were to destroy those satellites and determine the wreckage contained nuclear materials we would strangle the place to death regardless of China's desires or protestations.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 28, 2019 at 08:10 PM
Here is a listing of the worst government ideas in the universe (outside of Illinois) packed into one budget:
https://www.channel3000.com/news/evers-to-raise-gas-tax-increase-school-funding-roll-back-walker-proposals-in-first-state-budget/1045302631
Posted by: henry | February 28, 2019 at 08:11 PM
Ig, maybe that space plane thing already grabbed them.
Posted by: henry | February 28, 2019 at 08:11 PM
From last night:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/gop-flips-two-seats-in-connecticut-special-elections
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 08:13 PM
Getting KJOM started early tonight, the late great Andre Previn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bCQMj3D9w
Posted by: peter | February 28, 2019 at 08:16 PM
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
6m6 minutes ago
Everyone MUST watch the opening to @TuckerCarlson - A Classic! @foxnews
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 08:19 PM
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
4m4 minutes ago
I will be interviewed by @seanhannity at 9:00 P.M. on @FoxNews. Enjoy!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 08:19 PM
((To be unsealed March 14. (Yay Florida Judge).))
Why not tomorrow?
2 weeks, a month, 3 months from now....why can't this stuff get released tomorrow.
All the delay stuff is absurd.
McCabe, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc. are doing TV shows.....but we've got to wait years.
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 28, 2019 at 08:25 PM
Hmm. I posted a comment on Dissenter.com but did not see Ext's post.
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 08:26 PM
If not I'm sure they have a plan for it, henry.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | February 28, 2019 at 08:32 PM
While poking around Dissenter I saw note about Bernie Sander's Press Sec'ty being an illegal. Whaaaa?
I guess "doing the jobs Americans won't do" (shill for Bernie), but still. Bust her and deport her!
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 08:34 PM
Iggy, satellite snatching always works in Bond films.
Posted by: henry | February 28, 2019 at 08:36 PM
Drudge is besties with Ann Coulter. Which is obviously the reason for his recent Trump-skeptical headlines. He's gay and she's...well, who knows? They get together, drink bottles and bottles of Merlot, and talk about how Trump failed them.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at February 28, 2019 07:55 PM (3ufaJ)
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 28, 2019 at 08:55 PM
That's not how any of it is supposed to work:
https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why-renewables-cant-save-the-planet/&ved=2ahUKEwimksrN69_gAhUETawKHUR4C-kQhlQwFXoECAMQDA&usg=AOvVaw20RccuOPurPQVYKn2j2dTV
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 08:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uqPUK6hu1c
Live link to Hannity, who has the interview with the President.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 09:02 PM
Daddy,
It was a cocktail party.
Posted by: Jane | February 28, 2019 at 09:08 PM
Thank you henry.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/30/buzzfeed-dossier-lawsuit-unsealed/
Posted by: Rocco | February 28, 2019 at 09:08 PM
And then, a dinner party. I had one of those here tonite.
Posted by: Jane | February 28, 2019 at 09:09 PM
https://www.space.com/pluto-realm-lacks-small-kuiper-belt-objects.html
They looked at Pluto, and its' moon Chiron and found relatively few small craters. Ultima Thule, at first glance seems similar, ergo it is mostly large objects in the Kuiper Belt.
Posted by: jim nj | February 28, 2019 at 09:14 PM
I thought David French was McMuffin. So who am I missing?
Posted by: Jane | February 28, 2019 at 09:15 PM
http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3279/The-Rights-Trump-Lexicon.aspx
Posted by: clarice | February 28, 2019 at 09:16 PM
Evan McMullen is Egg McMuffin
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 28, 2019 at 09:22 PM
They are all balding gentleman but French is a southerner and army vet and McMullin who wanted to be Bob Bennett when he grew up ia a fmr mormon missionary and Brazil and supposedly company operative.
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 09:23 PM
Yikes it's like they were afflicted by rage virus, unlike with Allen ginsburg who was the mad one, yet he spoke of madneds.
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 09:32 PM
Apart from being Trump's SIL how would Jared's TS background check go with a criminal father and maybe some questionable business adventures of his own?
I'd start by looking for a scarlet thread hanging out his window.
Posted by: Pinandpuller | February 28, 2019 at 09:34 PM
Peter, I’ve wondered how many people know that Previn was a pretty fair jazz guy?
I have the record he made with Ray Brown and Joe Pass. Going to have to pull it up again.
Posted by: Another Bob | February 28, 2019 at 09:35 PM
Of course I pointed out that the charges are deeply irrational:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/44096/israeli-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-formally-josh-hammer?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 09:36 PM
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Everyone MUST watch the opening to @TuckerCarlson - A Classic! @foxnews
----------------------------------------
The opening of Tucker - https://streamable.com/xo186
Posted by: Account Deleted | February 28, 2019 at 09:36 PM
Thanks Capt. it’s very hard to keep up with the fantastical.
Posted by: Jane | February 28, 2019 at 09:39 PM
They are going after him because of his connections to Israel and the gulf states as well as mexico.
Don Wilson a fmr private eye turned crime no velist has gone full TDs in his latest the border, where a thinly disguised trump is the beneficiary of the cartels resources.
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 09:39 PM
Which story will be covered with a pillow:
http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/28/unlike-trump-trudeau-is-in-real-trouble/
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 09:45 PM
Heading to bed.
Good night, everyone!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 28, 2019 at 09:51 PM
Ah that's smells of Richard Clarke, who stinks like a disemboweled tauntaun, remember he gave off the record briefings to fox in support of the war on terror. So who will cohens ghost.
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 09:54 PM
You didn't consider this hot take:
https://www.cnn.com/?adsqa=appname%3Dsqa&cid=samsung-quick-access
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 10:00 PM
https://gizmodo.com/australian-siblings-are-semi-identical-twins-some-of-t-1832935592
Not Fraternal, not Identical. Semi-Identical.
I never heard about this before. It's very rare.
Posted by: jim nj | February 28, 2019 at 10:04 PM
thought of a good name for Jonah Goldberg's new mag: Washington General -- a magazine for perennial losers
Posted by: peter | February 28, 2019 at 10:10 PM
“Grand Opening!
Grand Closing!”
Couldn’t help but recall the famous Churchill retort. One of his personal enemies, a theater producer, urges him to come to the opening night of his new production, saying “Bring a friend—if you have one.” Churchill replies, “Sorry, I’m busy that night. I’ll come the second night—if there is one.”
Posted by: jimmyk | February 28, 2019 at 10:12 PM
Now I know why I never watch the news. Some asshole who beat his autistic son to death down the road from me wants to get transferred out of Riverbend Max because he has issues sleeping.
A Chattanooga police officer was run over and killed in a hit and run by the Soddy Daisy postmaster and she wants a bond reduction because it's her first homicide.
Posted by: Pinandpuller | February 28, 2019 at 10:18 PM
Headline: Pakistan may have violated Geneva Conventions after posting video of captured pilot
Posted by: daddy | February 28, 2019 at 10:20 PM
A civilian Blackhawk crashed in Tullahoma. Why doesn't Arnold own one of them?
Posted by: Pinandpuller | February 28, 2019 at 10:21 PM
Winning the future, actually I would have to resort to another cignate.
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 10:21 PM
Well that escalated quickly:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1094102/India-Pakistan-news-nuclear-war-warning-Indian-warplane-shot-down-over-Kashmir-conflict
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 10:31 PM
Narciso 10:31, I don't see any "new" news in that one. No new aerial attacks, the Indian pilot pledged to be returned, etc.
I don't have a link but a news article this morning detailed artillery pounding both sides in the Kashmir region so I think that is the newest news as of today?
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 10:39 PM
CNN: India/Pakistan nuclear threat a distraction from Michael Cohen testimony./sarc
That's ok, Jane; I have a hard time keeping up with them also. For example I thought Butterball Powerbottom was Brian Stelter instead of JPod.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 28, 2019 at 10:40 PM
Well it's the Express, and he was being interviewed on rt, I'm guessing they are more on India's side and hinas on Pakistan's side.
An aside there was this last series gene roddenberry helmed earth final conflict and the hero who would fight the aliens talons had been part of the si (sino Indian war)
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 10:45 PM
I was reading about the clash between China and India a few decades ago in the Himalayas.
India got its butt kicked, convincingly.
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 10:47 PM
In other news bin laden's chip off the old block has hit the big time, they dont where he is. But hes on the most wanted list
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 10:47 PM
That was a proxy war then as well, the Soviets were allied with India, Pakistan was too focused on it's own turmoil, it was around the time the company had supported the Tibetan khambas.
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 10:52 PM
This is an oldie but helps explain how India and Pakistan got to where they are today.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2015/08/noakhali-day-young-hindus-reclaiming-erased-memory-of-genocide/
Recently, the Indian city of Calcutta witnessed a large demonstration marking the 69th anniversary of an infamous event, noted in the history books as the Great Calcutta Killings, and The Week of Long Knives.
The initial riots in Calcutta alone claimed some 10,000 lives. In subsequent weeks and months a million more across British-controlled India would follow — a long lost saga of mass-graves, rape and ethnic cleansing. Hushed up by subsequent Indian governments and left-wing historians, today this genocide is all but forgotten and relegated to a footnote in the history.
In 1946, anticipating a British withdrawal from India, the political bloc representing Muslims of India, Muslim League made its intentions clear that it did not want Muslims to be part of a democratic and multi-cultural India. To make the resolve known Muslim League called for the “Direct Action Day” on August 16, 1946. City of Calcutta was the epicentre of the genocide in East India that killed at least a million people and displacing about 14 million.
Since India’s independence in 1947, the subsequent Indian governments stonewalled the memory of Hindu suffering to appease the minority Muslim population. There is not a single national memorial to mark their suffering or even a day of remembrance to recall their plight. In pursuit of Islamist supremacy, Muslim League brought suffering upon millions of Muslims in India as well, who bore the brunt of Hindu and Sikh retaliation.
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 10:56 PM
I think jeffs father passed recently, does he have brother named scott?
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 11:02 PM
Seems to me that there is another episode in history where Muslims conquered India. They demanded the losers renounce their faith and become Muslims.
They killed Indians who did not go along with that plan. They killed and killed and killed. After quite a long time, they finally tired of killing and the whole thing petered out.
Here's a sample link. I think this article is part of the story above.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. -- Will Durant ...
Conservative estimates place the number at 80 million dead Indians."
This is from the period of 1000 to 1500
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 11:03 PM
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/02/28/californias_rendezvous_with_reality_139605.html
VDH
Posted by: jim nj | February 28, 2019 at 11:08 PM
Is that related to this:
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/ghaznavids
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 11:11 PM
Maybe, Narciso. But I am far from being an expert.
I only remember being astounded and appalled that such an episode would not be highlighted in History classes.
It seems like something everyone should know about, like the Holocaust or the Stalin Purges or the Khmer Rouge or the French Revolution.
This from your link may apply:
"the real Islamization of the subcontinent only began in the 7th/13th century under the Slave Kings of Delhi (cf. Nāẓim, pp. 86-122)."
Posted by: President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA | February 28, 2019 at 11:22 PM
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 28, 2019 at 11:22 PM
I decided on frenchs mustard, in the last kerluxxle, re Covington. Because I dislike mustard.
Doesn't hindu kush literally mean killing of hindus
Posted by: Narciso79 | February 28, 2019 at 11:26 PM
You can call French anything you can make stick. Egg's parents did their little weirdo no favors by naming him something that fit so well in the Golden Arches breakfast menu.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 28, 2019 at 11:45 PM