Inspired by the recent Aurora IL shooting the NY Times takes a fair and balanced look at the recurring problem that our existing gun laws are not enforced. We learn that safety is neither safe nor cheap:
Still, only eight states have laws that provide an explicit mechanism so that people suspected of having guns in violation of those prohibitions are actually required to give them up. And some of those states merely allow — but do not require — the police to seek a court order to confiscate such guns.
That was the case in Illinois, where the authorities knew for more than four years that Gary Martin was a violent felon but apparently did nothing to ensure that he surrendered the laser-sighted Smith & Wesson handgun that he used to kill five co-workers in Aurora, Ill., on Friday.
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Unlike Illinois, most states do not have an explicit process allowing the police a way to confiscate guns from people suspected of being prohibited owners. But even in those states that do, two factors explain why many police and sheriff’s departments use these laws so infrequently: time and danger.
“That’s a challenging situation for law enforcement to knock on a door and say, ‘Hey, we’re here to take your guns, Mr. Dangerous Criminal,’” said Adam Skaggs, chief counsel of the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which advocates tighter gun laws.
Well, yes, police work can be dangerous. Showing up after a shooting is not so threatening physically, but then again, showing up with a shooting is also dangerous - six officers were injured in the Aurora shoot-out, so danger deferred is not always danger denied.
As to budgets:
But when Illinois lawmakers sought to tighten state law so that the police would be mandated to confiscate guns owned by people barred from possessing them, or at least verify that the guns had been transferred to legal owners, concerns about manpower helped doom the proposal.
“Law enforcement didn’t object to the essence of the law,” but said they would need far more money to carry it out, said State Representative Kathleen Willis, a Democrat from suburban Chicago who is pushing to toughen the law.
Freedom isn't free and safety isn't cheap.
And, on to a fact-check. This one becomes Blue-on-Blue. The Times quotes a Brady spokesperson:
One in five gun purchases is estimated to occur with no background check, such as through sales over the internet or at gun shows, said Kris Brown, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. That attracts buyers who would fail a check.
“You’d have to assume that if you are a prohibited purchaser, you are aware of that loophole, and that’s how you’re going to get a gun,” Ms. Brown said.
Do note the word "purchases", which ought to be "transfers". Here is the 2017 study, but Politifact has already tackled this:
The fact checks, and experts we contacted, instead cited a study authored by researchers from Northeastern and Harvard universities that was published in January 2017. They did an online survey, in 2015, of 1,613 adult gun owners.
Among gun owners who said they obtained their most recent gun within the two previous years:
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22 percent overall said they obtained the guns without a background check. But that includes guns that were purchased or received in another way, such as through a gift or an inheritance.
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13 percent who purchased firearms -- for example, from a friend or online -- said they had done so without a background check.
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The lower figure applies here, given that Bullock’s claim is about gun sales.
Blue-on-blue. And let's note that the unchecked purchases includes family, friends and acquaintances as well as gun shows and online. In fact, a quick glance at the relevant table tells me that family, friends and acquaintance transfers outnumber the online and gun show transfers. Of course, thugs and nut jobs have friends and family too.
As to the infamous gun show loophole, per this survey, 4% of transfers in the past two years were at gun shows, with no one claiming to gave avoided a background check. Not exactly the point the Brady person made.
On this date in 1980, the US Men's Hockey team defeated the USSR at the Lake Placid Olympics. Here is the final minute of the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gfD134ED54&feature=player_embedded
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 10:52 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/22/rod-rosenstein-my-time-as-deputy-ag-coming-to-an-end/
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 10:55 AM
Maybe the Libs can consider reparations to the families of the 350,000 Union troops who died in the war.
I like the cut of that priest's jib.
Posted by: matt - deplore me if you must | February 22, 2019 at 10:55 AM
matt,
Me, too!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 10:58 AM
Don Jr. commenting on the Charles Barkley clip:
Donald Trump Jr.
Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr
2h2 hours ago
We’ve officially reached a point where basketball commentators are delivering more accurate and honest social/political coverage than the “news” anchors.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 10:59 AM
Democratic New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez falsely accused Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's former chief of staff, Josh Holmes, of running a bot network.
"If you notice a lot more trolls on social media re: politics, it's [because] Mitch McConnell's former Chief of Staff helps run a multimillion dollar operation to have bot accounts manipulate online discourse," Ocasio-Cortez wrote on Twitter
How could you tell ?
Everybody on Twitter sounds like a bot.
Posted by: Neo | February 22, 2019 at 11:00 AM
When does Adam Schiff accuse Sir Charles of colluding with the rooskis?
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 22, 2019 at 11:04 AM
Sorry for your loss, James D.
Posted by: Tom Bowler | February 22, 2019 at 11:04 AM
Trump retweeting Strassel:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1098976205238398976
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 11:06 AM
Link goes to a tweet and a link to a WSJ article by Kim Strassel.
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 11:08 AM
What is this “open a new tab” that people are discussing?
I think my JOM home page tab has been open since the summer of 08.
I have been logged off by typepad maybe three times since we were forced into signing up.
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | February 22, 2019 at 11:12 AM
"Mr. Smollett is a young man of impeccable character and integrity who fiercely and solemnly maintains his innocence betrayed by a system that apparently wants to skip due process and proceed directly to sentencing.”
That shit isn't going to work, but the attorneys can empty his bank account at a rapid pace:)
Posted by: Buckeye | February 22, 2019 at 11:14 AM
Katshit 2?
https://pjmedia.com/blog/liveblogevent/live-blog-192/entry-254181/comments/
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 22, 2019 at 11:14 AM
Wut?
Virginia elementary school issues apology after gym class plays runaway slave game during Black History Month
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 11:14 AM
oooh, Patriot Act cell phone spying nabs Jussie's phone data:
https://twitter.com/juliansrum/status/1098833844336291842?s=12
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 11:18 AM
James, thinking of you. It has been a tough time but going out with a smile is a good thing. You are a son to be proud of.
Sorry to be so far behind :(.
Posted by: caro | February 22, 2019 at 11:20 AM
Vermont House Passes Bill Legalizing All Abortion
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 11:20 AM
This SMOLLAY stuff is hilarious. The best part is where JUSSIE claims to have "punched back" the WHITE GUY , wearing the MAGA hat.
Yes, the NIGERIAN WHITE GUY. With the NEW YORK accent.
Posted by: GUS | February 22, 2019 at 11:21 AM
Katshit 2?
Another GOPe guy stinkin' up the joint.
My fears being realized.
Posted by: Buckeye | February 22, 2019 at 11:27 AM
Btw, the VT senate has a Dem supermajority and the Dem governor has already indicated he'll sign it, the most extreme abortion law in the country.
GND, reparations, infanticide. Dems are feeling their oats.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 11:28 AM
Compares two MAGA incidents. Jussie in Chicago.
And a TDS Dem in a parking lot in Kentucky who threatened to kill an unarmed stranger because he wore a MAGA hat.
http://bejohngalt.com/2019/02/a-tale-of-two-maga-assaults/
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 22, 2019 at 11:32 AM
“I use Firefox too. I have a worse problem on my Ipad than I have on my laptop. I'll have to check for adblocker.”
MT’s experience is closer to mine.
But I also sacrifice a live goat every week to the Typepad deity as a supplication not to log me off or drop my posts.
Posted by: jimmyk | February 22, 2019 at 11:33 AM
If the Democrats would get off of their support for the illegals and fund the money President Trump needs to get the wall built to protect America all of this need to move money around would go away.
May God protect President Trump!
Posted by: pagar | February 22, 2019 at 11:34 AM
The haunted vagina's of Vermont...
Posted by: Rocco | February 22, 2019 at 11:34 AM
Paunchy punchy boy from Berkeley ID'd by anons:
https://twitter.com/jimmyed5/status/1098949545013141504?s=12
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 11:34 AM
But I also sacrifice a live goat every week to the Typepad deity as a supplication not to log me off or drop my posts.
Crap! I thought I was the only one who knew that trick.
Posted by: Manuel Transmission | February 22, 2019 at 11:37 AM
piling on:
Breaking News Feed @pzf
10m
Prosecutors in New York are preparing state charges against Paul Manafort in an effort to ensure he goes to prison even if Trump pardons him for federal crimes - NYT
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 11:39 AM
Jane, in Firefox, I always leave my JOM tab open.
If Typepad logs me off, I sign in as usual using typepad. Once signed in, I look for the left=facing arrow in the upper left of the screen. I click and hold on that arrow.
That lowers a menu of past pages. If I select the page just below the sign in page, I'm right back to the page where I was before having to sign in -- but, happily, it shows me signed in.
Never fails and only a minor inconvenience.
Posted by: sbwaters | February 22, 2019 at 11:40 AM
Boy the CRACKER JACK NY prosecutors. Couldn't get MANAFORT 1O plus years ago, but now they are on his trail.
Posted by: GUS | February 22, 2019 at 11:41 AM
It's fascinating to me how many different workarounds people have found for the "logged off - log in" problem. Pretty good examples of creative thinking, if you ask me!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM
More blue on blue:
Austin Petersen
Verified account @AP4Liberty
A new rule adopted by the DNC may block Bernie Sanders from running as a Democrat in 2020
https://twitter.com/AP4Liberty/status/1098726079123070976
Posted by: jimmyk | February 22, 2019 at 11:48 AM
I think the only way to wear a MAGA hat is while you open carry.
"you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?"
Posted by: Buckeye | February 22, 2019 at 11:49 AM
" For its project to work, it doesn’t need the massive reach of a Fox News or a Rush Limbaugh—it just needs to make D.C. dinner parties and greenroom visits uncomfortable for the Trumpist elite."
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/02/bulwarks-quest-shame-high-profile-trump-backers/583354/
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 11:51 AM
Breaking News Feed @pzf
58s
BREAKING: Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting a prostitute in Florida - NBC Boston
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 11:52 AM
Typepad won't let me post a full comment on this with excerpt and pics, but maybe they'll allow a link.
(I was going to call particular attention to the $330 multi-hour 'healing session'.)
https://tinyurl.com/y67goxue
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 11:55 AM
Video of pandas at the DC zoo at link. Happy pandas!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 12:00 PM
No workaround required for me.
I use Chrome on my PC (with Adblocker & Killfile running), and Safari on my iPad.
I think I have only been logged off two or three times since this started.
The few times I have had to login, I always use the Typepad options since I don't use Twitter or Facebook or those other things.
Don't jinx me, Bro!
Posted by: Old Lurker | February 22, 2019 at 12:01 PM
Same with me, OL, but I use Brave, which blocks ads natively (and doesn't allow Google to track your browsing history). I think I've been logged out once or twice. No idea why.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 12:08 PM
I was with Conrad Black right up to his first sentence of his final paragraph:
"Without realizing the proportions of the emergency, America has survived the greatest constitutional crisis since the Civil War."
I think the jury is still out on that and we will not like the verdict if the two tiered system of justice is seen to survive much longer. At the moment it is alive and well, and there is no visible evidence that it is changing.
Posted by: Old Lurker | February 22, 2019 at 12:15 PM
Paul Manafort Could Face New York Charges If Trump Pardons Him - Bloomberg
New York state prosecutors have put together a criminal case against Paul Manafort that they could file quickly if the former chairman of Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign receives a presidential pardon.
New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. is ready to file an array of tax and other charges against Manafort, according to two people familiar with the matter, something seen as an insurance policy should the president exercise his power to free the former aide. Skirting laws that protect defendants from being charged twice for the same offense has been one of Vance’s challenges.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-22/new-york-is-said-to-prep-manafort-charges-if-trump-pardons-him
Posted by: lurkersusie | February 22, 2019 at 12:16 PM
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1098980996442025985.html
Thread: What Saul Alinsky's Socialist Agenda for The United States Did to the Once Patriotic Democrat Party
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 12:16 PM
SBW,
The "left arrow" as in "go back"?
Posted by: Jane | February 22, 2019 at 12:22 PM
for you FB users:
CNBC @CNBC
7m
Facebook reportedly gets deeply personal info from some apps, like ovulation times and heart rate
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1098994922932314112
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 12:24 PM
OL,
I loved that Conrad Black article. I think the Russian hoax is pretty much toast, but the open questions are if the bad guys will be held accountable and if the media will ever report on it.
Posted by: Jane | February 22, 2019 at 12:26 PM
henry | February 22, 2019 at 11:52 AM
He was set up by Goodell.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 22, 2019 at 12:27 PM
Now that I've completed it and about to return to the library, let me confirm a recommendation for the non fiction science book What A Plant Knows by Dan Chamovitz.
Written for us amateurs, digests the latest in research of what plants perceive and the mechanics of how perception is translated into action.
A fast moving field of research
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 22, 2019 at 12:28 PM
Dave, he was checking inflation.
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 12:30 PM
"The resolution sponsored by Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) had 222 cosponsors".
IMO, 223 Anti-American lawmakers hating everything about America.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-22/democrats-introduce-resolution-overturn-trumps-national-border-emergency
How can someone who has been elected to national office admit they hate America as much as these who are not willing to defend America?
Posted by: pagar | February 22, 2019 at 12:31 PM
BREAKING: Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting a prostitute in Florida - NBC Boston
Did he pay by check? He's been acting like a perverted goat since his wife died.
Posted by: Captain Hate | February 22, 2019 at 12:31 PM
Will we be seeing goat-kebab recipes soon?
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 22, 2019 at 12:34 PM
Whoever had "rehab" on their Smollett bingo card just won.
Vicki McKenna @VickiMcKenna
24s
Jussie Smollett now claims he has DRUG problem thesun.co.uk/news/8486826/j…
https://twitter.com/VickiMcKenna/status/1098999825717256193
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 12:37 PM
Can we call this InflateGate?
Posted by: Rocco | February 22, 2019 at 12:43 PM
Adam Schiff is my mosted hated person in Congress. And I want to see him jailed for his role in Russian collusion.
Aren't I open-minded?
Yes, you are, Jane. Because I'd rather see him publicly disembowled like they did to Mel Gibson at the end of Braveheart.
Posted by: James D. | February 22, 2019 at 12:48 PM
discussing logoffs is like saying beetlejuice 3x. I just had to log in. :)
Posted by: Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma | February 22, 2019 at 12:48 PM
henry,
Boy, that is the typical Hollywood excuse.
Now he will check into a private clinic.
Amazing!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 12:48 PM
Vicki McKenna @VickiMcKenna
now
POLL: Suburban women want the wall; Trump approval up in nearly all demos washex.am/2Iy1mBB
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 12:50 PM
The "left arrow" as in "go back"?
Yup. Held down on it and I had to go back about two pages.
Posted by: sbwaters | February 22, 2019 at 12:50 PM
https://www.apnews.com/23ee68b222674fd99f2a3f0ec8f87c66
Cyclorama to be unveiled again amid diverging views of past
This is about the Cyclorama in Atlanta, portraying the Battle of Atlanta. Great photos and interesting background on its creation. Good read!
Posted by: MissMarple2 | February 22, 2019 at 12:50 PM
The Hill piece on Kraft is shameful. First the headline is that Kraft is "charged in a prostitution ring," which sounds a lot worse than just solicitation. Then the lead paragraph is "Robert Kraft, a long-time friend of President Trump and owner of the New England Patriots, faces charges in a prostitution sting...."
So "ring" gets changed to "sting," but of course the important thing is to link him to Trump.
Posted by: jimmyk | February 22, 2019 at 12:53 PM
David Portnoy aka El Presidente founded the soft porn/sports news website Barstoolsports.com. He's done very well for himself and featured on Tucker Carlson's show lately.
So with a very strong warning about the language he uses, don't click on the link if this offends. He blames Goodell, LOL!
Emergency Press Conference - Mr. Kraft Was Framed
Posted by: Rocco | February 22, 2019 at 12:53 PM
Let's go to the video tape!
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-arrested-for-soliciting-a-prostitute-in-florida-2019-02-22
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 12:55 PM
As near as I can find there are 235 Democrats in the US House. If 223 have signed a statement saying they care more about illegals than Americans; that must mean that only 12 care about legal Americans over illegals.
Posted by: pagar | February 22, 2019 at 01:00 PM
Oh, my, look at the arrogant expressions on Beto O'Rourke's young team. They are going to show us all how to beat President Trump in the next election.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/02/22/beto-orourke-campaign-strategy-2020-225193
"Here's What Beto Could Unleash On Trump"
Posted by: joan | February 22, 2019 at 01:02 PM
I believe Goodell could be involved.
Next move is to take the franchise away from him.
George WBush acted admirably after 9/11.
No problem with security initiated or establishment of Homeland Security.
Conrad Black Article is top notch.
We have to hold the criminals accountable.
Otherwise, we will have a weekly Jussie Smollett event with the next wannabe going for his 15 minutes of fame.
Glad Smollett is eliminated from the last 2 episodes of Empire.
Immediate consequences are the only way drugproblemed individuals learn a valuable lesson.
Lying and accusing others of heinous crimes has steep consequences for you.
Posted by: D | February 22, 2019 at 01:05 PM
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/NFL-owner-Kraft-Charges-Exonerated-Officials-Invoke-Obscure-'Tuck%20Rule'-State-Statute
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 22, 2019 at 01:05 PM
jjm, they're going to mount a formidable campaign if their parents let them stay up late enough on school nights to work on it.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 22, 2019 at 01:07 PM
Shakedowns for lunch money:
Vicki McKenna @VickiMcKenna
5m
HOMESCHOOL COPS?! Illinois Lawmakers Want to Send Government Agents into Every Home School Home to "Investigate" The Families. WOW.
https://t.co/GWkmjgtHiq
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 01:09 PM
If 223 have signed a statement saying they care more about illegals than Americans; that must mean that only 12 care about legal Americans over illegals.
More likely those 12 are screwing off on some junket.
Posted by: Buckeye | February 22, 2019 at 01:09 PM
henry , they need to make sure those kids are being properly indoctrinated.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 22, 2019 at 01:13 PM
Henry:
It could be called truant officers run amok!
Do I think some parents just let their high school kids just stay home?
Yes.
However this smacks of a Gestapo police action
Posted by: D | February 22, 2019 at 01:14 PM
Buckeye:
Some Dems just barely won and want to be re- elected.
Their talking points are different.
Posted by: D | February 22, 2019 at 01:16 PM
CNBC Now @CNBCnow
20s
BREAKING: U.S. and China discussing late March summit between Trump and Xi at Mar-a-lago, sources say. (via @kaylatausche)
cnbc.com/id/105731056
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 01:17 PM
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 22, 2019 at 01:17 PM
Jimmy,
Rush says it's the only thing the liberal media are reporting on today: Kraft.
Posted by: Jane | February 22, 2019 at 01:18 PM
I know Maryrose, but can't you just go with the flow of my fantasy sarcasms:)
Posted by: Buckeye | February 22, 2019 at 01:19 PM
Someone did my Made You Look hat!
Posted by: sbwaters | February 22, 2019 at 01:20 PM
sshhh
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 22, 2019 at 01:20 PM
My ex used to run a daycare in our home (she still does, only it's now my ex home), and would get occasional visits by state inspectors. It's no problem, they just make sure the adults are really there in the allowed kid/adult ratios, numbers of kids don't exceed the allowed max, place looks safe and and kids look like they're being taken care of ok. If they didn't do this, lots of home daycares would surely break the rules with some ill effects. I don't see why it's a problem for home schooling.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 01:24 PM
From my vantage point, a rich 77 year old guy passing out Benjamins at a "message parlor" is likely taking a bunch of 20 somethings out for a "night on the town".
Just sayin':)
Posted by: Buckeye | February 22, 2019 at 01:24 PM
Of course, the "not the biggest name" thing has already led to the inevitable online fantasies about you'll-never-guess-who...
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 22, 2019 at 01:26 PM
Dave, Mueller? (always start good rumors)
Posted by: henry | February 22, 2019 at 01:30 PM
What you miss, Ext, is that the State is just fine with DayCare and is only sorry they can't all be paid for by the State.
The State HATES homeschooling for all the reasons we know so well.
Those inspections will be frightening to exactly the people who feel they must do it.
Posted by: Old Lurker | February 22, 2019 at 01:30 PM
Dave:
Who?
Posted by: D | February 22, 2019 at 01:31 PM
https://nypost.com/2019/02/22/patriots-delete-happy-ending-tweet-after-krafts-prostitution-bust/
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 01:32 PM
LOL Dave!
Posted by: Jane | February 22, 2019 at 01:33 PM
Good point, but they don't like non-unionized home daycares, either.
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 01:33 PM
Did they get Mueller on video, too?
Posted by: Extraneus | February 22, 2019 at 01:34 PM
Let the deflate his balls jokes commence.
Posted by: GUS | February 22, 2019 at 01:36 PM
Who? A rich guy with a residence in FL.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 22, 2019 at 01:36 PM
N
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Posted by: Dave (in MA) | February 22, 2019 at 01:37 PM
Beto's team?? The GAY DUDE is priceless. Including the stick up his ass posture and hair-DOOOOOO.
Posted by: GUS | February 22, 2019 at 01:43 PM
JamesD: "I'd rather see him publicly disembowled"
Good to see you back and in fine form
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 22, 2019 at 02:08 PM
per Dave: NEW
Posted by: JimNorCal | February 22, 2019 at 02:13 PM