Owning The Libs By Voting On Their Proposals

Cocaine Mitch brings the crowd to its feet with his plan to bring the Ocasio-Cortez/Markey Green New Deal resolution to the Senate for a floor vote. How far out is that "plan"? The NY Times today presents an "ambitious" plan to achieve half as much in three times as long. Whoa, that is quite a gap between AOC and her cheerleaders - next time they might want to agree to appear in the same stadium.

Meanwhile, Sen. Markey cries foul!

Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) accused Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) of trying to “sabotage” and “silence” voters by bringing the Green New Deal, which was also proposed by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), to the Senate floor to vote on.

Uh huh. Voting on the bill is "sabotage". And if Trump were to sign it Pelosi would probably view it as an impeachable offense (mental incapacity?!?). What's Markey's message, "Stop me before I speak again"?

Now, let me have a To Be Fair moment: Markey might have envisioned committee hearings, expert testimony, and a chance to build public support for his pandering left-wing dreamscape. After which the bill would die in committee, where only a few sacrificial lambs from the Democratic side would have to stand and be slaughtered counted. But, ooops - now they will all have a chance at Auto-beclownment.

So, a possible dodge - Markey and the Dem Senate leadership could pull a page from the Mitch-Fu playbook and filibuster their own bill. Would that be even more embarrassing? Do these guys (and gals!) even know what embarrassment is anymore?

WHEN YOU'VE LOST THE TIMES: To give a sense of the uphill battle Markey and AOC face on this, let's segue to the NY Times, which has an interactive display outlining seven "ambitious" plans that could, together, cut US greenhouse gas emissions by 50% by 2050. (50 by 50? That could soundbite! I'd give it a 50/50 chance... Now ask me about "Fifty-four Forty or fight"!)

First of all, 2050? The "goal" in the Markey/Ocasio-Cortez fantasy seems to be for the US to be net-zero at the end of their ten year plan, so maybe 2030 (my emphasis):

Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that—

1.  it is the duty of the Federal Government to create a Green New Deal—

  A. to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions through a fair and just transition for all communities and workers;

...

2. the goals described in subparagraphs (A) through (E) of paragraph (1) (referred to in this resolution as the ‘‘Green New Deal goals’’) should be accomplished through a 10-year national mobilization (referred to in this resolution as the ‘‘Green New Deal mobilization’’) that will require the following goals and projects—

A. building resiliency against climate change-related disasters, such as extreme weather, including by leveraging funding and providing investments for community-defined projects and strategies;

B. repairing and upgrading the infrastructure in the United States, including— by eliminating pollution and greenhouse gas emissions as much as technologically feasible; by guaranteeing universal access to clean water; by reducing the risks posed by flooding and other climate impacts; and by ensuring that any infrastructure bill considered by Congress addresses climate change;

C. meeting 100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources, including—

The first two steps of the NY Times plans include a carbon tax and a push for zero emissions power including nuclear. Carbon taxes are poo-poohed in the AOC FAQ. Nuclear is ducked in the resolution but is treated like a cow (a flatulent cow, not a sacred one) in the FAQs - kill 'em!

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[MissMarple2]

"Every American in every community and from every walk of life has a right to live in security and to live in peace. That is my highest priority as President." pic.twitter.com/yjdVb4o7JD

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) February 13, 2019

Short video clip at link.

[henry]

Texas beats 70s oil production record.

https://www.chron.com/business/energy/article/Report-Texas-crude-oil-production-breaks-1970s-13606658.php

New Black Gold Deal. ;)

[henry]

WSJ:

A judge ruled that Paul Manafort broke his plea agreement by making false statements to prosecutors, voiding the deal

[lurkersusie]

Sad

Ryan Saavedra
@RealSaavedra
BREAKING: Judge Amy Berman Jackson has voided Paul Manafort's plea deal, saying that he "intentionally" lied to the FBI, special counsel, and to the grand jury

[Narciso79]

Why would a Somali go all full commie, Abrams supported the salvadoran govt and the Nicaraguan resistance, he also wanted to move Pinochet and Marcos out so you cant win.

[Narciso79]

Translation the fmr atty for William Jefferson who owner 500 k from Nigerian politician Abubakar is muellers pet on a much more above board enterprise.

[Comanche Voter]

Well the Green New Deal FAQ document lays out there on the ground like a fresh, steaming moose turd. And Senator Markey has discovered the age old truth that there is no way to pick up a turd by the clean end. And McConnell is asking him to pick it up. And Markey says, "No way Jose, it's not my job." Well Senator Markey you introduced the legislation described by the FAQ. You dealt it--it's all yours (with a little help from AOC).

[Narciso79]

What's news and what's relevant:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/02/bostons-top-prosecutor-ready-to-investigate-sexual-assault-allegations-against-fairfax/

[Narciso79]

In other news, the Covington diocese camt stop beclowning itself,

[Narciso79]

Much creepier than elaine dancing:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=379778

So this Monica person had to have communicated with Iranian gobetweens before she visited in 2012 and 2013, no red flags

[henry]

Trump tweeted a fox poll on the border. (Pic at link)

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1095841187657891840?s=21

[bubarooni]

I've had a hard time keeping up lately due to work.

Since I rarely can opine on a subject I know of, I've been itching to get caught up and opine on the topic of induction cooktops which was brought up a thread or two ago.

Got one during a kitchen update about 5 years ago.

The new has not worn off.

It's amazing.

You can be boiling 8 qts of water, remove the pot, put your hand on the burner and the only thing you'll feel is residual heat from the boiling water. Move the pot back over the burner and it instantly starts boiling again.

My wife generally will place a paper towel between a cast iron skillet/griddle and the burner so she doesn't scratch the glass top. The paper towel remains unfazed by the encounter and is perfectly usable afterwards.

If you want to boil water it takes about 90 seconds. 2 quart saucepan? 8 quart stockpot? It doesn't matter. Mass seems irrelevant. It will literally put the 'minute' in you MinuteRice.

My burners have a hold, 1-10 and a powerboost setting. The heat control is the exact same everytime you use it regardless of the size of the pan. Heat control is precise. It works the same way each time. There is a learning curve but once you've cooked a few times it's way easier to control than a traditional electric or gas.

All I know is that it uses magnetism. We bought a couple of stockpots last month and as we shopped my wife applied a magnet to the bottom of each pot and if it stuck, it was a candidate for purchase.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Has anyone ever seen Paul Manafort and James Spader in the same room together? Seems like the Feds love to revoke them some plea and immunity deals.

[sbwaters]

Bub, expertise or experience not required around here to opine. Thnx.

[MissMarple2]

This article was tweeted by President Bush:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/its-true-trump-really-did-start-building-more-wall-in-texas

[Extraneus]

Nice, bub. Thanks for the comment.

[Extraneus]

Green New Deal co-author calls it a 'Republican trick' to hold a vote on his bill

(Click to open.)

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

I think he’s looking for NY “indentured taxpayers” …
— Cyril Matthews (@cnmatthews) February 13, 2019

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/02/13/puh-leeze-andrew-cuomos-blame-game-for-taxpayers-fleeing-new-york-keeps-getting-more-laughable/

[GUS]

So Manafort was being interviewed and questioned about a RUSSIAN COLLUSION that NEVER HAPPENED and............................

[lurkersusie]

Why now?

❌Sabine ❌
@sabine_durden
Amazingly
@SenSchumer
Office met with Angel moms and dads today. Hopefully we will get to meet with @POTUS tomorrow. #Angelfamilies @realDonaldTrump

[Narciso79]

It took them this long to figure out what we figured out in a week:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/02/investigation-clears-covington-catholic-school-students-no-evidence-of-offensive-or-racist-statements/

[GUS]

So no COLLUSION with RUSSIA, yet ROGER STONE has GESTAPO tactics in the wee hours of the morning at his home.
WHY?
Mueller is a dirty motherfucker.

[MissMarple2]

President Trump, I meant. Jeesh!

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by President Trump:

Report: Texas crude oil production breaks 1970s record https://t.co/RHpaMLX7G2 via @houstonchron

— Senator Ted Cruz (@SenTedCruz) February 13, 2019

Link goes to article.

[Narciso79]

Yes gus you have the gist:

https://www.americanthinker.com/archives.html

[Narciso79]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/teacher_shot_after_baltimore_school_board_votes_against_arming_school_security_officers.html

[Extraneus]

A new infraction!

Ryan Adams, ex of Mandy Moore, accused by several women of manipulative behavior, emotional abuse

[hoyden]

bubarooni, thanks for your induction cooktop report. I'm exploring induction with a single burner counter top hot plate. I bought a new gas range 3 years ago when I remodeled the kitchen. The all grate cooktop is a PITA to clean. I wouldn't buy that style again.

[GUS]

You're under arrest. You are accused of MANIPULATING WYMYN and causing EMOTIONAL DISTRESS.

Wait til that HORSESHIT gets turned on the accusers??

What? No SEX UNLESS I BUY YOU SHIT!!! CITIZENS ARREST.

[henry]

Trump tweet:

California has been forced to cancel the massive bullet train project after having spent and wasted many billions of dollars. They owe the Federal Government three and a half billion dollars. We want that money back now. Whole project is a “green” disaster!

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
11m11 minutes ago

California has been forced to cancel the massive bullet train project after having spent and wasted many billions of dollars. They owe the Federal Government three and a half billion dollars. We want that money back now. Whole project is a “green” disaster!

[MissMarple2]

Wow, henry!

We are really synced! I even checked to see if you had posted it before I grabbed it!

[MissMarple2]

Wouldn't it be funny if Newsome had to fork over that money and it went for the Wall?

[MissMarple2]

Richard Shelby
‏Verified account @SenShelby
1h1 hour ago

I just talked to the President, and he was in good spirits. I told him that I just signed the homeland security conference report and that it’s a down payment on his border wall. This is only the beginning of a multi-year effort.

[henry]

Miss M, I read somewhere Newsone is starting out with a $2 billion budget deficit... add a quick $3.5 billion to that and he might have to apply Walker level Act 10 stuff. OPM famine is not the time to play open borders come for free shit games.

[henry]

Hey Shelby, don’t expect any cash for the Republican Senate Campaign Committee until the Wall is complete. If I have to wait multiple years, so do you. Asshole.

[MissMarple2]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/429938-trump-got-in-dems-face-over-abortion-at-private-meeting-report?rnd=1550108198

[MissMarple2]

Excerpt from the article I posted at 8:56:

One person familiar with the interaction told Politico that Trump "was in his face about it" and described the president as "worked up."

“He saw a Democrat in the room, a Democrat who’s known to be a person of faith, and he was like, ‘Why aren't you speaking out about this?’” the person added.

[MissMarple2]

Former congressional candidate claims FL midterms were rigged with help from Rosenstein & DOJ - @OANN https://t.co/WuQoVWIxOk

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) February 14, 2019

Link goes to 3-minute video.

[Jane]

Buburooni,

What is it called?

[MissMarple2]

Jack Posobiec
🇺🇸
‏Verified account @JackPosobiec
5h5 hours ago

The media doxxed a teenage Trump supporter for smiling in minutes but it's been 24 hours and no one has identified the "MAGA media attacker" from the Trump rally in El Paso yet

Why is that?

[Les Nessman]

Hoyden
I've been thinking the all grate design would be handy in moving pans around on a hot stove.
What makes that design a PITA to clean vs a regular cooktop?

[Account Deleted]

The 9:06 link is especially interesting because the guy claiming fraud in the Florida election is the Democrat that ran against DWS in the Dem. primary. Tim Canova

[sbwaters]

I don’t mind the grate on our gas stove.

[GUS]

GIANNIS ATTENTAKOUMPO 33PTS 18 REBOUNDS 10 ASSISTS.
MILWAUKEE wins AT INDY.

[peter]

Mrs. -peter is a big fan of Ryan Adams. I'm sure she hasn't heard about this story yet. His music is decent, IMHO

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

A man in a MAGA hat sits down at the bar and figures he'll break the ice the bartender by asking her, "Wanna hear an AOC joke?"

In a hushed voice, a man beside him quickly says "Before you tell that joke, you should know the bartender is a liberal, our bouncer is socialist, I'm a 6'4" black belt who voted for AOC, the man sitting on the other side of me is 6'2, 250 lbs, and he voted for Bernie. The guy sitting over there is pushing 300, 6'6, and he wrote-in Al Gore. We're ALL lefties. So you think about it mister, do you really wanna tell that joke?"

The MAGA hat man sat for a second, thinking over the odds and then replied "Nah, not if I have to explain it 5 times."

[bubarooni]

Jane,

induction cooking.

You can buy one to operate on your countertop or an entire rangetop.

Regardless of what you get, it'll make moot the recent discussion here on making hard boiled eggs.

Unless, of course, OL markets that amazing bowl in his fridge that magically regenerates hard boiled eggs when removed from the fridge and placed empty on the kitchen counter.

I told my wife about that Modern Marvel but she called bullsh*t on me.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/02/13/butterfly-association-tries-to-mothball-trumps-border-wall/

[Narciso79]

Remember how al Jazeera and the times made a big deal about her:

https://mobile.twitter.com/kshahrooz/status/1095855321556414464

[Captain Hate]

it'll make moot the recent discussion here on making hard boiled eggs.

No price is too high to accomplish that...

[Narciso79]

Like the times and the post covering up the trial for the better part of a year:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1095855841100496897

[MissMarple2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=m_Yt5MQ6L9U

Rep. Dan Crenshaw: The Truth at the Southern Border - Rio Grande Valley

10-minute video

[bubarooni]

CH,

I've done what I could!

[Another Bob]

Bubarooni, 1800 watt I assume?

They’re inexpensive enough to buy on a lark.

[henry]

Those idiots should sue Mexico for the damage to butterflies.

[MissMarple2]

This is a counter-claim to the story I posted earlier about President Trump getting in Senator Coons' face about abortion:

https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/13/james-lankford-politico-trump-coons-abortion/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_medium=Social

Senator Lankford says it didn't happen.

[bubarooni]

ABob,

I think the bigun' on my range top pushes double that.

My only input was signing the check though.

[peter]

hate @ 9:39 ! zing!

[Another Bob]

Ah, whole range top. Missed that part. Probably triple.

You can buy a 1800-watt portable for $60.

[Buckeye]

I agree with Hoyden that my gas cooktop is harder to clean than my previous glass surfaced cooktop.

However, one dropped pan on the glass cooktop set me back $400 and about 3 hours to swap the glass.

Pick yer poison:)

[Captain Hate]

BREAKING: Judge Amy Berman Jackson has voided Paul Manafort's plea deal, saying that he "intentionally" lied to the FBI, special counsel, and to the grand jury

I picked a good day to start reading Sidney Powell's Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice.

[MissMarple2]

I am going to have to go to Best Buy to get an antenna for our television. I will look to see if they have those induction ranges there.

I honestly had never heard of them until the discusion today. Sounds really neat!

[clarice]

The range tops require special wiring. I don't know about the ranges.

[Narciso79]

The Enron task force was like the facehugger hatchery in alien mr freidrich, wray weissman
Monaco and ruemmler (the latest George Nader's atty)

[MissMarple2]

Jack Posobiec
🇺🇸
‏Verified account @JackPosobiec

CNN lead grifter Fake Jake Tapper is now carrying water for Ilhan Omar's actual anti-Semitism by doubling-down on his false smears on Trump as a secret anti-Semite

And attempting to do this through a "comedy" bit

This is...not a good look

================================

Reply from DOn Jr.:

Donald Trump Jr.
‏Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr
4h4 hours ago
🇺🇸

I thought Fake Jake’s homophobic comments on air re Roger Stone were bad, but deflecting to cover up flagrant antisemitism from Rep Omar is a new low. Cover for the left at all costs... Typical CNN.

[Tom R]

My guess is that the other DOJ case # IV is referring to is the Podesta/Craig/Weber investigation being run by SDNY.

https://twitter.com/techno_fog/status/1095833423187451904?s=21

[Dave (in MA)]

Buck Sexton@BuckSexton
People need to stop making Democrats look like
a bunch of crazy Left wing extremists by quoting
them and sharing their official publications and
plans for governance

[Buckeye]

MM

The old school/conventional ranges or cooktops, with the regular, exposed spiral shaped resistance heating elements are still available, but clearly not very popular.

Glass top units with induction heating or conventional resistance type elements (mounted under the glass) are mostly what you will see for electric.

The resistance style look sleek, but since the glass gets hot, spills are sometimes challenging to clean up.

Induction best of both worlds, but pot and pan choices are more limited.

[Narciso79]

You missed it by 700 meters,
https://freebeacon.com/issues/david-hogg-claims-ar-15-owners-are-hunting-human-beings/

[MissMarple2]

Buckeye,

Thanks for the info. I probably won't be able to get one this year, but I am pretty sick of my gas cook top because I have the grate thing which someone complained about earlier.

To clean those grates I have to soak them in household ammonia and then use ammonia and steel wool on the underlying enamel surface. Big pain in the neck.

[Captain Hate]

This is effective marketing:

If you bring a picture of your Ex to Hooters tomorrow, they'll shred it for you and give you free wings.

That's so beautiful.
Posted by: mikeyG at February 13, 2019 10:28 PM (LL1Be)

[sbwaters]

What are you people doing with your grates?!

Most of us try to keep the food in the pots.

BTW, Dawn has a degreaser spray or Easy-Off makes quick work of burned spills.

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

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[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

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[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

You can only shake your head ....

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/06/12/denver-okays-public-pooping/
The Denver City Council has voted unanimously to decriminalize a number of offenses, including defecating in public. Also, urinating in public. Camping on public or private land without permission. Panhandling. And lying across public rights-of-way, such as sidewalks.

Democrat Mayor Michael Hancock and city officials explained the new ordinances are designed to protect immigrants — legal and the other kind — from “unintended consequences.”

[Dave (in MA)]

https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1092997079566290947

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

Not for everyone.
Don't watch this. Your IQ will regress.
Animation of AOC and a heckler.
https://youtu.be/p5cC6wysUw8

[Narciso79]

Good grief I'm an immigrant, could you stop with the al Shabaab stereotype, and full commie going on the side of Tommy boy Maduro

[Narciso79]

What is it they want to make dysentery cholera who knows bubonic plague a possibility. You look at the stand or the passage and say that's the look we're going for?

[Narciso79]

So they want Americans to look positively on Latinos and then one looks at the carp they put out three hours of cartel TV, at least when they were telenovelas (which made ths career of one recent first lady,) whose husband is gavin Newsom stupid
https://babalublog.com/2019/02/13/cubas-castro-communism-is-the-driving-force-behind-illegal-immigration-in-latin-america/#comments

[Narciso79]

Well maybe not that stupid:

https://goo.gl/images/KY9Muf

[jim nj]

https://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-reportedly-chasing-a-sixth-gen-fighter-to-beat-the-us-2019-2

How are they going to build a 6th generation fighter ahead of anyone else when everything they use is stolen technology?

When their current 5th generation fighter runs on a 4th generation engine. And their 5th generation engines explode after a few hours of use.

Foreign analysts expect that a US F-15 or F-18 latest models, 4th generation fighters, can take out a Chinese J-20. Never mind an F-22 "Raptor."

[Narciso79]

They think they can win through Brute force, but how much of their military has seen combat since at least that brief skirmish with Vietnam, i guess that's why they've used North Korea as their proxy.

[Narciso79]

What could go wrong?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/24/foreign-isis-fighters-must-face-trial-on-home-soil-kurds-say?fbclid=IwAR3qgVY2HNg2r4GSa0UOO7LMQ7cyyxFUVtyG1o1GzKwxIP71N_9Ql1S3qjQ

[Narciso79]

Um no:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/14/british-schoolgirl-joined-isil-found-syria-wants-come-home/

[Narciso79]

Of course hes a fmr Marxist IRA fighter:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1086929/winston-churchill-john-mcdonnell-labour-news-tonypandy

[Pinandpuller]

Jussie Smollett. Hahahahahahahahahaahhahaahhahahahhahaha. Left "the noose" around his neck as he finished his SAMMICH.

Posted by: GUS | February 13, 2019 at 04:29 PM

Fishing using cormorants is an ancient Chinese tradition that is still practiced today. A string is tied around the bird's neck and they are sent out into the water to catch fish. They cannot swallow the fish and they return with it to the fisherman.

https://youtu.be/XJ4Fujsr274

[Narciso79]

Oh you'll be interested to know the police will re interview smollett when he gets back in town, on the 12th of never!

[Pinandpuller]

What is the Viper and what did she do?

[jim nj]

Narciso,

I remember the Sino-Vietnamese War. It was a short affair, less than a month, with heavy casualties on both sides if I remember correctly.

The cause of the war was even weirder. North Vietnam, more or less, installed Pol Pot as the leader of Cambodia. Pol Pot then hooked up with China as a client-state.

After the US left the Vietnam war, Pol Pot sent raiding parties into Vietnam.

Vietnam invaded Cambodia to stop it and I remember the US was confused about the whole thing. Like who to root for.

That's when China attacked Vietnam to get them out of their Cambodian client-state. China didn't achieve that goal.

Both China and Vietnam declared victory, but both dis-engaged.

I presume Vietnam sent its' best troops to Cambodia and fought China with less capable troops and irregulars. A guerilla war as soon as the the Chicoms came across the border.

The Chinese also battled India in 1962 and 1867, but I can't think of any land battle after the one with Vietnam. Large deployments to the Russia border after that.
No sea battles before the age of steam. No air battles.

I'm sure they study past battles, but that doesn't mean they no how to fight a new battle.

During the American Civil War we had observers from many European countries present and, yet, WWI was a repeat of Civil War tactics with trench warfare.

[jim nj]

1867 s/b 1967

[daddy]

Miss M,

Just got to your 05:18 PM link of those old photos of San Francisco. Really fascinating. Thanks for posting that.

[Pinandpuller]

A goat that good you don't eat all at once

https://youtu.be/xFzeyPKQyUA

Stay Strong: Two-legged Lamb[sic] in Southwest China Astounds Residents

[hoyden]

What makes that design a PITA to clean vs a regular cooktop?

Posted by: Les Nessman

Stove top grates are cast iron, so much easier to clean than enamel. I mostly just knock the chunks off with a sponge. Stove has 3 large grates and 5 burners that end up needing cleaning. It would be so much simpler to wipe down the stove top.

sbwaters, yeah, keeping food in the pot and off the stove top is the ultimate goal. Let's just say I have room for improvement. Pots that simmer and spit bits of juice are another source of schmutz. Don't even mention frying anything up top. I cook bacon in the oven so that I don't have to clean up grease splatters.

My counter top induction hot plate is 1800 W, which is probably as big you can get and still plug into an ordinary 115 V outlet. Next time I'm in the thrift store I will pick up some steel and cast iron pots. All of mine are SS and don't pass the magnet test, except for my double boiler.

[Pinandpuller]

This Fecking Guy:

Hank Johnson (D-GA) Insults Parents of Persons Killed by Illegal Immigrants

https://youtu.be/h8AdhL_eFTU

[jimmyk]

Has this been discussed?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/menendez-threatens-to-call-capitol-police-after-reporter-asks-him-about-green-new-deal

I'm sure the WaPo ("Democracy Dies in Darkness") and NYT will be outraged. Maybe.

[hoyden]

jimmyk, WaPo, converse follow on slogan "Democracy may die in darkness but Socialism thrives in it."

[daddy]

FAQ: acronym for "frequently asked question(s)"

Geezus, Kay Riste, I do hate Acronyms that I don't understand.