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February 12, 2019

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Old Lurker

MM will never accept it, but if Trump signs that bill and does not simultaneously make other moves to build the wall, then pretend all you want, but that will be Trump getting his ass kicked by Pelosi & Schumer with GOP help.

The big picture is half of the country does not want any more uncontrolled increases in our population from other countries and the other half actively wants exactly that.

Nothing in the bill serves the first half one bit, and since it does not, it serves the other half just fine.

MissMarple2


#ProTrumpUK
‏ @protrumpuk
6h6 hours ago

🇬🇧 #FinishTheWall
🇺🇸State of Texas Considers Building Its Own Border Wall
🔗 https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/02/12/state-of-texas-considers-building-its-own-border-wall/
Texas House of Representatives are preparing a bill that would provide $2.5 billion to fund a border wall. The proposal would take the money from Texas’ “Rainy Day Fund.”

Old Lurker

I agree with you on that, Jack. He is a one man band, sadly. Michael Corleone had a better small band of brothers to help him out.

Buckeye

You ever get the feeling that it is Trump up against everybody, including McConnell, and full GoP Senate?

Yep, just about every day.

Buckeye

Michael Corleone had a better small band of brothers to help him out.

yep, Mitch Rapp nowhere to be found.

Good thing I will never be President:)

clarice

David Burge


@iowahawkblog
17h17 hours ago
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There are 2.24 million passenger trips between LAX and SFO every year, at an average cost of $112; a total of $250 million per year. For the price of the Cal train, you could pay for all those flights for 4,000 years.

Account Deleted

Build a giant Wall along ALL 2000 miles.

Skateboarding hero Robert Francis O'Rourke even said the migrants will go to remote places to cross if we only build SOME walls.

This isn't a game. Build the Wall. BUILD THE WALL.

Old Lurker

Not a game for sure, Janet.

By the 2030 Census, the country will be, in Obama's phrase, "transformed" into something we never could have imagined.

Simple as that.

henry

Reuters:

JUST IN: Former Air Force member indicted for aiding Iran, defects to Iran: U.S.

MORE: Former officer delivered information to Iran that targeted and compromised U.S. intelligence agents

MORE: U.S. says indicted Air Force officer allegedly shared information that could cause 'serious damage' to national security

https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld/status/1095710054475538437

henry

The government is running a surplus. The DOT is building too many bike trails. Answer: raise taxes (or add tolls).

https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/tony-evers-says-state-task-force-nearing-a-consensus-on/article_fb8715b3-7df1-509d-acf7-2bf470c5011d.html

Jane

"MM will never accept it, but if Trump signs that bill and does not simultaneously make other moves to build the wall, then pretend all you want, but that will be Trump getting his ass kicked by Pelosi & Schumer with GOP help."

The deal is only for 10 months, and I believe Trump has found other money to apply. He keeps saying the wall is already being built. I tend to be a pessimist but I've heard a lot about how is getting around the dems BS, and if anyone can it's him.

henry

Breaking News Feed @pzf
23s

BREAKING: State media reports suicide bomb targeting Revolutionary Guard personnel kills at least 20, wounds 20 in southeast Iran.

Extraneus

Devin Nunes: ‘Many’ People Will Be Criminally Referred to DOJ After William Barr Confirmed

Narciso79

Interesting if it on the west one would suspect ahvaz on the east it would probably be the baloch outfit

henry

Ext, we expect different results than when they found Holder in contempt for lying to Congress?

clarice

Lynn Chu We are watching today the collapse of due process and equal protection in favor of authoritarian bullying and race and other irrelevant categorical fetishism by children who should never have been let into college much less exposed to any professorial generalizations without being forced to get a job first and learn what reality is before stewing in a soup of abstractions they had no capacity whatsoever to understand.

Narciso79

That would be jundallah. The outfit risen tried to endanger the live of a coast guardsman by associating him with thaf outfit.

Extraneus

I'm hopeful that Trump got it right with Barr. We'll see.

MissMarple2

Old Lurker,

Because I follow stuff on Twitter, I KNOW that as Jane says, the wall is already under construction. A great many of his supporters know this as well.

In addition, Mulvaney was on one of the Sunday shows explaining the funds he could use BESIDES the ones in this deal. I believe they found a LOT.

Why is it that you set up parameters that ONLY if he does things the way you would do it, he succeeds? Otherwise, you are willing to call him a failure,

Why aren't you pointing out that Pelosi has ALREADY caved by agreeing to the $1,37 billion? Remember, she said not one dime.

As Jack said, besides Mulvaney (and maybe Pompeo) there is NO ONE he can count on in DC. Therefore, he doesn't telegraph his strategy because he needs to avoid sabotage.

He is going to build the wall. Period. I would like to see El Chapo's money used in addition to what Mulvaney found, because then the dems would have to vote against it and that would REALLY put them on the side of the drug cartels, which is where I think they are, anyway.

Trump has not let me down, yet. We have the tax cuts, the regulations chopped, the new trade deals, the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital, the end of the Iran deal, etc. etc.

So, lighten up, Francis! :-)

henry

Why aren't you pointing out that Pelosi has ALREADY caved by agreeing to the $1,37 billion? Remember, she said not one dime.

bollard style fencing that already exists at the border is a couple things:

1. easy to walk through / under

2. not the improved barrier Trump has been erecting

ergo 3. not a cave by Pelosi.

MissMarple2

henry,

That is NOT what is being constructed. I do not understand what you are talking about.

clarice

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/rats-public-defecation-and-open-drug-use-our-major-western-cities-are-becoming-uninhabitable-hellholes

rse

OMG--

"California Gov. Gavin Newsom has named Stanford professor emeritus and prominent education researcher Linda Darling-Hammond to lead the state's board of education."

MissMarple2

This is a disturbing video of @amyklobuchar pic.twitter.com/QoncrqDIIk

— Barstool News Network (@BarstoolNewsN) February 13, 2019

Hoo-boy. Video at link.

Extraneus

Apple, Google under fire for Saudi app that lets men track women

Among the app’s main features is an alert system that sends text messages to a man when their wife or daughter tries to use their passport, making it easier to catch women trying to flee the country’s restrictive regime.

The app also lets men cancel and restrict women from traveling out of certain airports.

As of Wednesday, Absher is still available on the App Store and Google Play. The description states that it allows users to “safely browse your profile or your family members, or [laborers] working for you, and perform a wide range of eServices online.”

Saudi Arabia has long restricted the rights of women, who for decades have needed permission from a male guardian – a father or a husband – to leave the country. Previously, the entire process was done with paper forms.

But the Absher app has made the process much more convenient for men, and human rights advocates are concerned that the electronic tracking adds yet another level of repression for Saudi women.

(Click to open.)

henry

Miss M, the deal as structured (based on leaks) specifies 55 miles of "bollard style fencing as already in place at the border" for the $1.x billion. Plus retains catch and release etc etc etc. That is what Pelosi agreed to, and is not a cave by her. (A total fail / stab in the back by McTurtle, yes).

Trump will do something else... pending a sentence in this mess that prohibits him doing so. (And I would bet the negotiators put one in).

Extraneus

And for all those bragging about their lanais this winter...

Florida woman catches 10-foot alligator 'pounding' on her front door: 'That’s when I ran'

A 350-pound gator greeted an unsuspecting Florida woman at her front door Tuesday morning, causing the panicked homeowner to flee.

When Geri Staples heard the aggressive knock, she peeked out of a clear window in her door to see who — or what, rather — was causing the ruckus. To her surprise, an estimated 10-foot-long alligator was on the other side, and it appeared to be frustrated.


"I saw him right there and he hit the door, and that’s when I ran [upstairs]. I wasn’t sure if he kept pounding like that if he could actually open the door with his snout if he hit hard enough. So I wasn’t taking any chances,” Staples, who lives in Merritt Island, told WESH.

clarice

Air officer indicted is Monica Witt, an intel officer

Old Lurker

I hear you, MM. Just calling it as it seems to me and a few of my friends who tell me I am not crazy (I no longer communicate with the others... :-) )

As to this from your post "He is going to build the wall. Period."

I am sure there will be more wall built before Nov 2020 by hook or by crook, but by any and all estimates, we will end 2020 with only a small fraction of the wall that is needed, even if you score the existing 650 miles of "old fence" the same as the new super-dooper style. Then if Trump loses in 2020, that will be the high water mark of wall building.

If Trump wins in 2020 but does not get a different Congress, then further extensions of the wall will be by dribs and drabs like Pelosi just gave him (forget not that the total cost estimate was >$25B, not $5.7B, and not $1.4B), plus whatever he can direct from other budgets before Congress steps in to slam that redirection door, which they can do if they like easy as pie.

The country has a clear cut choice to make about our future, and the Left wins either by forcing that choice and winning it, or by maintaining the Status Quo in which event the Uniparty will deliver what the Left wants anyway.

MissMarple2

Old Lurker, henry,

Let me remind you guys of these tweets of the President's from yesterday:


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
17h17 hours ago

Was just presented the concept and parameters of the Border Security Deal by hard working Senator Richard Shelby. Looking over all aspects knowing that this will be hooked up with lots of money from other sources....

...Will be getting almost $23 BILLION for Border Security. Regardless of Wall money, it is being built as we speak!

================================
Bolding in this case is mine. I want to make sure you guys see this.


The Infamous Ignatz

--rats-public-defecation-and-open-drug-use-our-major-western-cities-are-becoming-uninhabitable-hellholes--

Not sure about the poo and pills, but if they want to tackle the rat problem they should call The Mink Man. :)

Neo

Three Yale students who claim they were groped at fraternity parties have filed a class-action lawsuit against the university, arguing the school has fostered an environment where alcohol-fueled gatherings at off-campus fraternity houses dictate the undergraduate social scene.

I never knew Yale forces coeds to go to alcohol-fueled fraternity parties.
Who knew ?

Narciso79

So like that flower child, reality winner, yikes

Old Lurker

I no longer pay any attention to his tweets.

MissMarple2

Well, I am willing to wait and see what happens. President Trump knows that he promised the wall and has to deliver. He knows the Uniparty spearheaded by the dems want him to fail. Heck, the Never Trumpers are already casting this as a fail (see Bozell's tweet) even though he hasn't signed onto anything yet.

Since I do not think the President is stupid, and because I know he wants to leave a lasting legacy of safety, prosperity, and sovereignty to this nation, I am willing to see what he does to outfox the Washington Weasels.

Narciso79

She defected 6 years ago, why wasnt this bigger news?

MissMarple2

Old Lurker,

Well, that is nice to know. You get direct communication from the President of the United States and you ignore it.

Very well. I will now ignore you.

Thomas Collins

I think it's wishful thinking on the part of the Coup Brigade to think that Trump will lose his support over this budget deal. Trump will find other money, which will cause the matter to end up in federal court. I don't think Trump will lose support when the inevitable injunction comes down from some federal district court judge, and the case winds its way through a federal appeals court and SCOTUS.

Re GOP not dealing with this earlier when GOP controlled both sides of Congress: Duke and Duke GOPers take for granted the tax and regulatory initiatives successfully pursued by the Trump Administration, and would prefer to take those to the bank and ignore border security and immigration reform. Duke and Dukers still doesn't understand that no Trump, no tax and regulatory reform progress.

Narciso79

She met with an Iranian corporation who had a trade show in 2012, then she went to Iran the next year and met with pasdaran officials, winning the future, it was only after that she decided to defect?

Narciso79

Good grief:


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/13/former-air-force-officer-monica-witt-shared-us-secrets-with-iran-doj.html

Thomas Collins

Not to mention the federal court staffing occurring under the Trump Administration.

Old Lurker

MM "Very well. I will now ignore you."

Thought you already were.

Tom R

MM will never accept it, but if Trump signs that bill and does not simultaneously make other moves to build the wall, then pretend all you want, but that will be Trump getting his ass kicked by Pelosi & Schumer with GOP help.

Ann Coulter and Eeyore approve of this message.

henry

oops:

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Threadkiller

Why does Bozell want to push the idea of Trump as a failure? Was he a Never Trumper?

Maybe Bozell is paying attention to the callers on Mike Gallagher 's and Rush Limbaugh's shows. They are full of ultimatums.

Since 2016 every Trump concert has a groupie base of MAGA gear buying fans that scream for two encores that are never played. "Lock Her Up!"(drain the swamp) and "Build The Wall!"(fight the progressives),

Fickle fan bases don't like handing their life savings for a concert ticket that plays the elevator music version of their favorite tune. And that is what they perceive because they don't dive deep into politics like the average JOMer. Thinking they think about the long game is a mistake. They want results now. That is why they finally voted for Trump after years of sitting out the previous "best candidate that can win" long game.

Right now we are in the third year of Led Zepplin promising that they will play Stairway to Heaven. Groupies normally only wait 2 hours after the concert starts.

MissMarple2

I am going to say one more thing, and then I am going to the store.

I took a whole lot of grief when I said that after Walker dropped out I was backing Trump. (And now we see that Walker wasn't all he was cracked up to be.) I was told I was chasing a celebrity, that he would be a terrible president, that he couldn't win the primary, that he couldn't win the general election. Once he won, I was told he would have a terrible cabinet, that he wouldn't keep his promises, etc. etc.

Well, I spent a LOT of time studying him, reading his books and watching how he behaved and actually listening to him.

I. Was. Right.

So, Eeyores and Ann Coulters and Never Trumpers can go pound sand. I am sticking with the best president I have seen in my 70 years.

Now I am heading to Kroger.

Threadkiller

....Led Zeppelin...

Jane

How screwed up do you have to be to abandon the US for Iran? WOW!

sbwaters

Reading Trump tweets is an important part of sorting out what is news and what is noise.

Certainly some of what Trump tweets is negotiating. But he does understand when a deal is finally a deal.

He also understands that trust is a valuable commodity that other politicians and media have yet to grasp.

Dave (in MA)
Hoo-boy. Video at link.
Not actually her, BTW.
Threadkiller

I took a whole lot of grief when I said that after Walker dropped out I was backing Trump

I took grief ever since he came out as a birther. Even more grief when I picked him long before Walker quit. Does that count towards the validity of my opinion?

Tom R

With the conviction of El Chapo there have been multiple articles calling for using his $14 billion in assets to pay for the border wall. The articles mention Ted Cruz' "EL CHAPO" bill.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ted-cruz-wants-el-chapo-and-drug-lords-to-pay-for-border-wall
What I can't find anywhere is confirmation that the US has actually seized and has control of these $14 billion in assets. Is it 100% certain that the US Treasury already has control of El Chapo's assets?

Lets assume Cruz's bill never gets passed by Congress. Does anyone know what the current federal law is that dictates what the federal government can legally spend the $14 billion in seized assets on?

henry

Tom R, past asset forfeiture has been spent on buying goodies for the law enforcement people involved. This is out of control of any elected legislatures (at any level). Might ask Sessions if he wanders past your part of AL, it was his favorite thing.

jimmyk

Who'd have ever expected this lady would be spying for the Iranians?

henry

But Marc Thiessen at the Washington Post has another, slightly more subtle suggestion. Trump may be able to bring the Democrats back to the table for the full $5.7B by threatening them with the sequester.

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/02/13/trump-path-rest-border-wall-money/

Narciso79

The ofac branch of the treasury in 2014 identified 288 enterprises that el chapo employed I guess they are going from that list.

Extraneus

The wall is the nearest thing to Ace's MacGuffin ever. The people will never desert the hero as long as he keeps after it.

Seems pretty simple for Trump to say, "Unfortunately, the Congress is unwilling to secure the border, so I will have to do it on my own authority."

I think declaring a national emergency is a far better approach than to play budgetary games.

Tom R

Tom R, past asset forfeiture has been spent on buying goodies for the law enforcement people involved. .

Henry,

Here is a better accounting for how the money was spent.

https://www.justice.gov/afp/file/5-yr_forfeiture_trends.pdf/download

https://www.justice.gov/afp/page/file/1126581/download

https://www.justice.gov/afp/fy2018-asset-forfeiture-fund-reports-congress

Placing property into official use must support a law enforcement purpose, to include support for undercover operations. Attorney General policies require that
any property placed into official use must be supported by a written justification,
detailing the reason why the forfeited property was placed into official use and
these justifications must be retained for three (3) years.

Do you agree/disagree with the idea that a border wall that reduces the flow of illegal drugs into the US as well as reduces the number of non-citizens who violate US immigration laws constitutes a "law enforcement purpose"?

henry

Tom R, given a lambo for the sheriff has qualified in the past, I don't see why not. I suspect the Hawaiian judge may rule differently. (and you bet it goes there).

Old Lurker

MM "So, Eeyores and Ann Coulters and Never Trumpers can go pound sand. I am sticking with the best president I have seen in my 70 years."

Go right ahead, nobody suggested you should not.

What you never seem to understand in your single focus zeal is that others can fully support Donald Trump but remain skeptical that he is or can accomplish what you seem to take as a done-deal. He is not your husband and you do not have to worship at every single thing he does, says, or tweets, or jump down the throat of those who are not as enthralled as you are.

As to your knee jerk name calling of those who have not drunk your kool aid, grow up.

As A-mom loves to say "This is not MY blog..."

The Infamous Ignatz

--Right now we are in the third year of Led Zepplin promising that they will play Stairway to Heaven.--

Inapt analogy.
An apt one would be Led Zeppelin's sound men, roadies, ticket sellers and pretty much everyone else on "their team" refusing to let them play Stairway to Heaven [which is a feature not a bug BTW].
That's why TC is right that his base is loyal because we know it is him and a small handful of loyalists against the entire DC establishment of both parties and the bureaucracy. We, apparently oddly, reserve our ire for the creeps blocking his endeavors, not the guy endeavoring.
Politics is the art of the possible and what is actually possible is very different from what we armchair commandos wish were the case.

The Infamous Ignatz

Gnu Fred.

clarice

I believe an early DJT E.O. provided for the seizure of assets of various classes of criminals including drug and human traffickers.

Dave (in MA)

New thread

Old Lurker

sbw "Reading Trump tweets is an important part of sorting out what is news and what is noise."

True as to some of them.

Not true if they are just repeats of stump bumper stickers.

Threadkiller

An apt one would be Led Zeppelin's sound men, roadies, ticket sellers and pretty much everyone else on "their team" refusing to let them play Stairway to Heaven [

Yes, because superficial groupies blame the machine not the headliners.

Not.

Another Bob

Re. the ADP thing, if the employer screwed it up, obviously ADP shouldn’t be on any kind of hook for it. None of the stories said what the problem was.

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