Going Nuclear

A committed, lifelong Green pounds the table for nuclear power. People familiar with the baseload problem and the unreliable nature of wind and solar won't find the plot surprising, but the detailed studies of California's seasonal use and generation from wind and solar were new to me. And no, batteries are not right around the corner. No mention of electrolysis, hydrogen and fuel cell batteries, however, so lots of room for follow-up.

And the safety of nuclear plants? Well, compared to what? This factoid grabbed me:

Because nuclear plants produce heat without fire, they emit no air pollution in the form of smoke. By contrast, the smoke from burning fossil fuels and biomass results in the premature deaths of seven million people per year, according to the World Health Organization.

Even during the worst accidents, nuclear plants release small amounts of radioactive particulate matter from the tiny quantities of uranium atoms split apart to make heat.

Over an 80-year lifespan, fewer than 200 people will die from the radiation from the worst nuclear accident, Chernobyl, and zero will die from the small amounts of radiant particulate matter that escaped from Fukushima.

As a result, the climate scientist James Hanson and a colleague found that nuclear plants have actually saved nearly two million lives to date that would have been lost to air pollution.

Seven million lives per year? That is a lot of Chernobyls and Fukushimas. However, assuming this is the study, there is a bit of apples-to-oranges going on here. From WHO:

After analysing the risk factors and taking into account revisions in methodology, WHO estimates indoor air pollution was linked to 4.3 million deaths in 2012 in households cooking over coal, wood and biomass stoves. The new estimate is explained by better information about pollution exposures among the estimated 2.9 billion people living in homes using wood, coal or dung as their primary cooking fuel, as well as evidence about air pollution's role in the development of cardiovascular and respiratory diseases, and cancers.

In the case of outdoor air pollution, WHO estimates there were 3.7 million deaths in 2012 from urban and rural sources worldwide.

Many people are exposed to both indoor and outdoor air pollution. Due to this overlap, mortality attributed to the two sources cannot simply be added together, hence the total estimate of around 7 million deaths in 2012.

The indoor pollution, as well as the level of outdoor pollution, sounds like London in 1952, not the first world today. Nuclear power plants in California won't be a direct help to Third-Worlders burning dung. What is needed is to get developing countries onto a cleaner electric grid. Nuclear would be fine but any modern natural gas plant will be cleaner than coal-, dung- or wood-fired stoves.

Also, a lot of industrial air pollution won't be addressed by cleaner electricity, renewable or otherwise. Steel mills, for example, will remain a challenge.

Nonetheless, welcome aboard! If Greens generally are serious in saying we face a crisis then even more of them ought to re-calibrate their position on nuclear power.

Hmm - a big, critical project uniting left and right... applying American tech and can-do... saving the world... I can hear the Indiana Jones theme right now!

A CHANGE IN THE WEATHER: The NY Times notes that within Republican ranks there is a changing climate on climate change. They cite editorials by Senator John Barrasso (R, WY) who chairs of the Senate Environment Committee, and this from House Republicans Walden, Upton and Shimkus.

All emphasize nuclear power and innovation. On the importance of innovation, Megan McArdle makes an excellent point: The US, Europe and Japan are wealthy enough to subsidize our way to a much lower carbon footprint; India, China and the developing world are not. Unless we are prepared to subsidize them as well as ourselves, we need solutions that are competitive with fossil fuels. And however hard that looks, it is probably harder - as Tyler Cowen notes, if the West cuts back on its use of oil, the resulting price drop will make it more attractive in China and India.

Well, as the great Raylen Givens said in a different context, "I ain't lookin' for easy".

Comments

[Pinandpuller]

Two a days in February?

[JimNorCal]

That was a quick thread change!

[JimNorCal]

"WHO estimates indoor air pollution was linked to 4.3 million deaths in 2012"

Yeah, I remember when CA mandated state-wide billboards (paid for by tobacco companies) that said stuff like "Last year, 183,292 people died from second hand smoke!"

When I wrote to ask for the names of the people who had died, I got no response.

[Pinandpuller]

Indiana Jones slept with a fifteen year old Marion Ravenwood in the movie backstory but George Lucas wanted her even younger.

It was worse than I remember. George Lucas pitched a 42 year old Indy sleeping with an 11 year old MR. I think someone ought to #metoo his ass:

https://www.polygon.com/2015/8/3/9089181/indiana-jones-abusive-creep

[GUS]

Another load of horseshit. Hit would be so proud.

WHO???? WHO THE FUCK IS WHO????

We all know this.

[JimNorCal]

OL from last thread: "can you wear out a GIF?"

Yes.
I would say so, yes.

[MissMarple2]

Reposting from the very tale end of the last thread.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mark-penn-socialism-is-a-rising-danger-in-democratic-party

I think he's right, but don't know if anyone will listen.

[Jim Eagle]

I left my comment on this the last thread. But in summary:

Nuclear is baseloaded dispatchable power unlike AOC' s delirium. Want lights, sounds, TV, wifi, refrigeration? Think coal, NG and Nuclear. Rely on renewables, you will crash not once but twice or three times a week at least and most likely more.

[GUS]

Jack, I won't even mention THE BARTENDERS' efffing name or initials.
How much farther can the LEFT sink before the war begins??

[Extraneus]

When my son was a little guy he enjoyed asking warmist propagandist teachers whether they supported nuclear. (I told him he could watch them squirm at the question, and he apparently appreciated the sadistic pleasure of that.)

[MissMarple2]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2019/03/01/fury-moderate-democrats-rage-at-aocs-proposed-enemies-list-n2542449

[Extraneus]

What is needed is to get developing countries onto a cleaner electric grid.

There are one or more huge and unproven assumptions in that statement.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/trump_was_right_in_venezuelas_wake_protests_are_breaking_out_in_cuba.html

Well, how about that?

[daddy]

Oh boy, our favorite taxpayer funded musical hobbyist, Ken Burns, will concentrate on that noted hotbed of racial diversity, country music. Indeed {"the influence of African Americans in country music is brought into sharper relief. Many a monumental country figure was mentored by or collaborated with African American artists."}

How could we properly appreciate music without this maven?

Posted by: Captain Hate

Mark Twain: A gentleman is someone who knows how to play the banjo and doesn't.

[MissMarple2]

My post at 7:03 is about protests breaking out in Cuba.

[Jim Eagle]

I always thought it was Scot-Irish music who inlfuenced C&W. But what do I know that Ken Burns doesn't know? What a jackass. C& W is Irish to the death knell guy. If you don't understand and forward that fact you are a complete fabulist.

[Neo]

Apparently, there a five publishers preparing to print the “Mueller Report”
They are all 726 pages, except for the version with the introduction by Alan Dershowitz, which is 740 pages.

[MissMarple2]

Ryan Saavedra
‏Verified account @RealSaavedra
29m29 minutes ago

The Washington Post is running advertisements from Chinese company Huawei, which the heads of the FBI, CIA, NSA, and the director of national intelligence have warned against using their products over fears of spying: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/14/17011246/huawei-phones-safe-us-intelligence-chief-fears …

[Jim Eagle]

If only the Dersch intro was true. It would be a beauty. Mueller does not impress Alan at al.

[Extraneus]

BigFurHat:

The Unstoppable Leftist Gladiators

The left thinks they have found unstoppable gladiators in the arena of politics. They believe they are cloaked in armor that is impervious to defeat.

What is this secret weapon? Dark skin.

How does this secret weapon work?

If you question any assertion by a “person of color”, no matter how outlandish, how asinine, how factually incorrect, you are a RACIST!

The potency of this weapon is proportional to how much one cares about being called a racist.

In 2019, that charge means nothing.

Etc.

[daddy]

DUCHESS MEGHAN MARKLE

“Her exact word was ‘fluid,'” a source told Vanity Fair. “She said they plan to raise their child with a fluid approach to gender, and they won’t be imposing any stereotypes.”

No wonder Billionaires wind up going to Beauty Parlors for hand jobs from gals who can't speak English.

[MissMarple2]

This thread has random memories of Operation desert Shield and Desert Storm.

Pretty goof read.

https://twitter.com/TWillardAuthor/status/1101628779032707072

[MissMarple2]

GOOD read.

[MissMarple2]

Jack,

All anyone has to fo is LILSTEN to Scots-Irish music, and they would know.

Burns is an idiot who has figured out how to use lefty themes to scam TV companies for profit.

[GUS]

Daddy, one of BRITAINS "PRINCES" has decided to raise his child without a stated GENDER.

For fux sake.

[Extraneus]

Their child might look like Misty K., who ran against Mike Lee in Utah, daddy.

[GUS]

KAMELTOE HARRIS is said to be AFRICAN AMERICAN.

INDIA
JAMAICA

Which of these countries is AFRICAN.

[Extraneus]

Btw, I will now dispense with (Click to open.) at the bottom of images I post. Any of them can be clicked to open until further notice.

[MissMarple2]

.@michellemalkin; "I will warn you that I am going to go over time because the MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE that we face is IMMIGRATION and we need to be talking about it more than one panel in 20 minutes!"

Amen! #CPAC pic.twitter.com/RjZdbMe8Ye

— The Columbia Bugle 🇺🇸 (@ColumbiaBugle) March 2, 2019

Video at link.

[daddy]

Well he's 22 years older than Calista, so whats the problem?

[Another Bob]

(From two threads back)

Henry, I do not believe one word of the stated reason behind that Subaru recall.

[Narciso79]

Submitted without comment:

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/01/trudeau-snc-lavalin-prostitutes-workers-rempel/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Don't know about wearing out a GIF but we might be lucky it isn't smell-o-vision;
Women say they are suffering with smelly 'KETO CROTCH' as a result of following the low-carb regimen loved by stars like Gwyneth Paltrow and Jenna Jameson.

[Narciso79]

I remember from last crusade not so much the bond films:

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0233145/

[MissMarple2]

They are making another Scooby Doo movie:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/scooby-doo-movie-star-will-forte-gina-rodriguez-tracy-morgan-1177354

[Pinandpuller]

Some GIFs just keep on GIFing.

[Captain Hate]

The entire Malkin speech is here:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=380020

[MissMarple2]

MSNBC gets destroyed by average Americans in an Ohio diner

Reporter: What would it take to get you to vote for a Democrat over President Trump?

Woman: Oh my goodness, NEVER.....NEVER....!!

Man: I'm a registered Democrat.
Reporter: Will you vote for Trump in 2020?
Man: YES. pic.twitter.com/9YUizjwn2A

— Amy (@RightHookUSA) March 1, 2019

HA! Video at link.

[Pinandpuller]

They'll never tell you how many people Netflix kills.

It sounds like the cure for The WHO is Night at the Roxbury.

[daddy]

one of BRITAINS "PRINCES" has decided to raise his child without a stated GENDER.

Well don't forget GUS, that this new babies Grandfather's fondest wish is to be a tampon, so at least Duchess Meghan is thinking of raising the kid as some variety of human being instead of some variety of sanitary napkin.

[Pinandpuller]

Whatever you do don't ask about the steamed clams.

[Narciso79]

Rhetorical question:

https://spectator.us/bulwark-bullying-victor-davis-hanson/

[Dave (in MA)]

Back a thread:

MissMarple2
It looks like someone might havbe gotten a letter:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/110160918

Journalism Corrects in Friday Night Darkness

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Ruh Roh!

This thread is already way off the rails! Scooby Doo and Keto crotch! Meghan and Harry, oh my! I think he is the unlucky one, inheriting both of his parents intellects.

Prince/ss Xe!, The Duke/Duchess of Penzance; the Baron/ess of Bizarre! The Queen of the Desert! Able to serve in combat.non-combat roles.

[Dave (in MA)]

crap</b>, crap , crap

[Narciso79]

Oh good grief:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=380024

[GUS]

Trudeau says giving hookers to Ghadaffi's son, is "our values".

I bet the folks down at Planned Parenthood got a chuckle out of that.

[Pinandpuller]

There's a Canadian fellow who calls himself The Human Serviette and he's 10 times more qualified to be King of England than the Prince of Whales.

[daddy]

In Iggy's 07:40 I am trying to figure out what books Jenna Jamieson is reading in the picture. They look like big healthy tomes but they are just beyond my ability to enlarge. The top one sort of looks like Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment, but thats just a guess from the size and number of letters.

[Extraneus]

UC Berkeley Thug Zachary Greenberg Arrested For Sucker-Punching Conservative Activist

[MissMarple2]

Steve Herman
‏Verified account @W7VOA
4m4 minutes ago

Tomorrow @POTUS will deliver comments to #CPAC2019, according to the @WhiteHouse.

[Pinandpuller]

I think Jenna Jameson is a Trump fan but she may have been paid to say that IYKWIM.

She's gone to the mat more times than her bf Tito Ortiz.

[Dave (in MA)]

Gateway doesn't allow hotlinks, Extraneus.

[MissMarple2]

#Justice Former Las Vegas Illusionist Sentenced To 20 Years In Prison For Possession, Receipt, & Distribution Of Child Pornography

Jan Rouven Fuechtener#Skype“larusa22” #GigaTribe #ChildPornography #FunHouse

District of #Nevada #FBI
AUSA Elham Roohanihttps://t.co/U34lt6uz4q pic.twitter.com/jPSCq5f6YS

— ✖️AnonCassi ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ (@AnonCassi) March 1, 2019

Picture at the link.

[Dave (in MA)]

Trudeau says giving hookers to Ghadaffi's son, is "our values".

What species?

[Pinandpuller]

Is Meghan the new Tiffany or Misty? Every girl I ever met named Misty ended up in topless show business.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2zZqE2oAQg&feature=youtu.be

Jerry Falwell Jr., Donald Trump Jr., Kimberly Guilfoyle, Charlie Kirk on a panel. 27 minutes.

[daddy]

Some GIFs just keep on GIFing.

The GIF of the Magi.

[JimNorCal]

Pirate Congressman
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanCrenshawTX/status/1099117949464399872

[MissMarple2]

Jim,

Crenshaw had another tweet after that one trying to get the woman's name (which he did) and he wants to invite her to come to DV.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Couldn't make out what weighty tomes Jenna Jameson has queued up there, daddy, but I did discern that her calves look freakishly atrophied, and either covered in bruises or half removed tatoos.
Weird.

[Captain Hate]

It's document drop day at the FBI vault. Today's feature, the internal investigation of Andrew McCabe that led to his firing.

https://bit.ly/2Ug9tUS
Posted by: JackStraw at March 01, 2019 08:14 PM (/tuJf)

[Narciso79]

I could see this coming a parsecs away:

https://www.nysun.com/editorials/trump-netanyahu-and-democracy/90592/?fbclid=IwAR2W1D3eJBIqZHcxwb9oJz6v8GOCO5ClDoIo_VBxbbV4Wlhq6kcWOp6YYZI#.XHnPhZWLuLs.facebook

[Pinandpuller]

Jussie and Jenna learned there's never enough bleach.

[Dave (in MA)]

daddy:

*thwack*

[Narciso79]

What's beyond full brawndo people.

[Dave (in MA)]

Pinandpuller, there's a Misty not ten feet away from me, and she's got either a triple or a quadruple set of mammaries.

[lurkersusie]

Can’t wait for the response on Monday

Lin Wood
@LLinWood
·
13m
On behalf of Nicholas Sandmann & his family, Todd McMurtry
@FitLwyr and I will issue a formal statement on Monday responding to the actions taken today by The Washington Post & a letter received late this evening from its general counsel.

[Dave (in MA)]

I saw KETO CROTCH open for CHEESY JOHNSON at the STEAMING PILE back in '79.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/03/01/sen-hawley-slams-sweetheart-deals-between-government-and-big-tech/

There is video within the article.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Creepy, talentless old broad teams up with creepy, talentless, middle-aged ghet-to stoner to hawk pot for people and pets.
Positively daring, ya hideous old bitch.

[jimmyk]

Apparently, there a five publishers preparing to print the “Mueller Report”
They are all 726 pages

You mean the report that is delivered confidentially to the AG? That hasn't been finished yet? Someone has a vivid imagination.

[Pinandpuller]

You could say I'm pandering to rich.

Allow me to retort. "What's wrong with that?"

Absolutely nothing!

(Why's it gotta be) White Zombie-Welcome to Planet Mother...

https://youtu.be/ANLPDFfdvrM

[Narciso79]

Well Comey did tell us she was an enemy of the people, McCabe does qualify for inspector harry 'snapper organs' q division. As I've pointed out, in the film he'd be played by Stephen tobolowsky the annoying weatherman from ground hog day

[jimmyk]

I don't know about Keto Crotch, but I remember when Atkins was first writing about keto, he acknowledged that it can produce an odor. But it wasn't specifically crotch-related. I had the impression it was just through your pores.

[Another Bob]

Jimmy, if you’ve ever shared an office with an athlete doing a high-protein diet, you know the odor well.

[Another Bob]

A Piranha brothers reference from Narc!

Love it. Gotta dig out that dvd...

[Dave (in MA)]

It couldn't be anywhere near as bad as H1-B Armpit.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.wishtv.com/news/local-news/historic-greenwood-home-will-have-future-as-event-center/1820927939

This house was next door to a friend of my son's. It was built by a student of Frank Lloyd Wright.

Pretty cool and I am glad it is being renovated.

[Dave (in MA)]

A guy who used to work where I work had a photo of Wright's "Falling Water" in his office. One of the H1-Bs asked him if it was a picture of his house.

[Another Bob]

LOL Dave.

Long ago, had a Felix Unger coworker put into an office with an H1-B Armpit Oscar Madison.

Felix took to putting Stick-Ups under Oscar’s desk.

[daddy]

Local Talk Radio mentions that Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins are co-sponsoring their own Legislation to rescind Trump's National Emergency declaration. Callers as usual totally fed up with her, but oh well, she's got 4 years remaining in her term.

[Jane]

Geez, are you guys saying I smell?

[Narciso79]

This punctuated my opinion:

https://www.wtsp.com/mobile/article/news/regional/florida/pulse-shooting-ballistics-tests-cant-prove-who-fired-fatal-shots/67-1d7e17f9-799b-445e-a501-6d06419e8cda

[Dave (in MA)]

Gandalf makes excuses for the diddlers.

[Dave (in MA)]

That's OK, Jane. You have the good kind.

[Narciso79]

Just looking at the first section but they seem to have put redacted rectangles in many places

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--It couldn't be anywhere near as bad as H1-B Armpit.--

I'll denounce your racism as soon as I'm done laughing, Dave.

[Captain Hate]

Callers as usual totally fed up with her, but oh well, she's got 4 years remaining in her term.

Yeah but Sarah Palin's too controversial...

[MissMarple2]

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/actress-found-dead-months-after-hinting-at-alleged-paedophile-ring/news-story/e2cd0f086103b09201d7c27a80921201

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Yes, diddling is caused by heterosexual oppression.
It would all be fine if only every day they could sing;
"Today's the day the sodomites had their pic-nic."

[Captain Hate]

Poor Ben Domenech; after Malkin's blast at the ghost of the Ol' Maverick, Daddy's not so little girl will go on an eating binge that should put her permanently at three bills. Maybe he got a caloric pre nup.

[Dave (in MA)]

If he did, it was plagiarized from somebody else's pre nup.

[Dave (in MA)]

#reeRoo.

[daddy]

Nice to see this 28 year old thug in Berkeley, Zack Greenberg, was arrested and his mug shot has been posted, but I'm still ticked off that IRS Agent John C Fry is still being given anonymity. Why the hell is he being protected?

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/01/harvard-harris-poll-3-in-4-voters-favor-america-first-immigration-trade-war-platform-candidates/

This is good news for 2020.

[Narciso79]

Hes mib obviously. So soros understudy Ayala absolved the police two weeks ago now they cant match the casings to the shooter apparently, only one local paper and one in Hong Kong seem interested.

[clarice]

Charles Glasser, a libel lawyer who represents the media, says the waPo correction today was too little and too late to absolve them of liability under
Ky law:"The arrogance of assuming you are always right comes with a cost...
And the WaPo blew it under Kentucky Law, w/r/t retractions: "A "timely publication" in a daily newspaper is a publication within ten (10) business days after the day on which a sufficient demand for correction is received by the defendant. A "timely publication" in a newspaper, magazine, or periodical other than a daily newspaper is a publication in or prior to the next regular issue which is published not less than ten (10) business days after the day on which a sufficient demand for correction is received by the defendant."
Ky Const Sec. 8 Freedom of speech and of the press"

[daddy]

I saw KETO CROTCH open for CHEESY JOHNSON at the STEAMING PILE back in '79.

Wasn't Keto OJ's gardener?

[Captain Hate]

Honestly, Dave, you can find some real idiots at dog parks who don't understand how dogs act.