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March 26, 2019

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henry

Is it possible to OD on schadenfreude?

we may find out.

anonamom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elGeSYlOyIw&feature=youtu.be

from one of MM 's earleir Tweet posts---
American Hero Nunes, Fitton, Yourk at CPAC 2019

25 minutes--plenty of time to clean that kitchen while you listen!

henry

Conrad Black calling it a coup attempt:

https://www.nysun.com/national/us-was-closer-to-coup-detat-than-ere-before/90625/

Captain Hate

Not
Tired
Of
Winning

Porchlight

Don't forget, Creepy Porn Lawyer's co-conspirator Mark Geragos is a CNN legal analyst and represents Jussie Smollett.

In case you were getting a little fatigued by all the winning.

JimNorCal

I want to claim the status of being the world's biggest fan of the phrase "flailing New York Times".

Porchlight

Meanwhile ISIS is now almost completely defeated. Is that another one of those things that genius Obama arranged to happen after his exit?

MissMarple2

Porchlight,

Also represented Michael Jackson, COlin Koeperneck, and was just hired a few weeks ago by Clair Bronfman, Seagram heiress in the NXVIM trafficking and underage sex scandal!

MissMarple2

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-announces-depositions-of-senior-obama-era-officials-and-former-hillary-clinton-aides/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=press%20release

First one is today in DC. This is about Benghazi and Clinton emails.

Porchlight

MM, I wonder how Nike feels about their darling Kaepernick right now.

MissMarple2

Porchlight,

No kidding!

Buckeye

I admit while reading Conrad Black, I had to look up "preveniently".

His command of the English language is better than mine:)

BTW, auto-cucumber is clueless too:)

henry

If Black wished to be understood, he would use common words. If he wishes to strut about and declare himself an elite, then rare words will do.

Buckeye

henry

That way he can charge the big bucks:)

MissMarple2

https://www.ajc.com/blog/jamie-dupree/house-expected-fail-override-trump-border-wall/fOgi6TJJ3Y4b2rFWJVETJJ/

There are not enough votes to override.

Buckeye

Google Ads just put an Ashley Madison ad on my sidebar.

What else are they pimping:)

Momto2

Good morning, JOM! What a week and it's only Tuesday!! :)

JimNorCal

Don Surber weighs in on "4D".

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/03/maybe-mueller-was-set-up.html
"I shall remain skeptical, but never cynical"

But he sounds more open to it than that quote suggests.

Jim Eagle

Don Surber must be suffering from overload today. The Trump effect on steroids. This is what winnng feels like when everyone else is losing.

Momma and Frederick arrived safely in BRU. He immediately went to bed🤪🇧🇪

Buckeye

JiB

If Momma is in the right seat, can Frederick legally drive in Belgium?

fdcol63 🇺🇸

It's a great week!

schadenboner

Extraneus

LOL

Extraneus

This would be a good time for Trump to tweet "What did Obama know and when did he know it?"

Captain Hate

Fuck this guy in particular:

https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/03/25/cenk-uygur-glenn-greenwald-wolves/

James D.

CH, I saw eff all of them.

I don't have the energy to try and sort which so-called journalists are the worst. As far as I'm concerned:

Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

Narciso79

The link from last night was molly McKee, good grief cant Georgians hire competent people, except possibly schumeneman a decade ago.

The justice Democrats are cenks angels.

Beasts of England

He can't start sorting soon enough for me, James D! 😂

Jim Eagle

Buckeye,

I don't know about Belgium but here in Florida, a licensed driver over 21 has to be with him at all times. He can only drive in daylight hours. When 16 it goes from 6am to 11pm but with a licensed driver over 21. At 17 it is unrestricted. So, in the 3 days since he got his permit he has 3 hours of supervised driving under his belt. Drove down to Flagler Beach twice on A1A where they are busy doing dunes restoration. Very narrow lane restriction but also a 25 mph limit.

He didn't want to do the I-95 to I-4 to State 417 to State 528 to MCO yesterday, and I don't blame him.

fdcol63 🇺🇸

I admit that I like Lindsay Graham v. 2.0 since he was able to escape the grip of McCain's sphincter upon his Master's death, but I think Graham will be haunted by this as he now calls for investigations into the Russia hoax:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/25/politics/lindsey-graham-john-mccain-dossier-fbi/index.html

Porchlight

Glenn Greenwald was on Tucker Carlson last night, mostly making sense. He's been out front on the collusion delusion. He and Taibbi are justifying their position to their fellow lefties by comparing the deep state Russian fakeout to their perception of the WMD fakeout. That part isn't persuasive to me, but I appreciate that they've stuck their necks out because it certainly isn't advancing their careers. Greenwald had a great tweet yesterday (I think) where he praised the righty journos who did the heavy digging on Russiagate.

Porchlight

And yes it's weird to be on the same side as Greenwald. The Trump timeline never ceases to amaze.

Buckeye

He didn't want to do the I-95 to I-4 to State 417 to State 528 to MCO yesterday, and I don't blame him.

I don't blame him either.

Driving in Florida can be challenging. Heavy traffic and then some 90 year old lady who can barely see over the steering wheel in the right lane doing 45.

Bad combo:)

Porchlight

fdcol63, yes, Lindsey hadn't yet escaped at that point.

Narciso79

Bearded spock universe, clearly taibbi is allowed to be sensible every six months

Porchlight

Momto2, it is indeed quite the week. :)

Threadkiller

4D comments previously seen on JOM:

Sater was under the control of Loretta Lynch and the FBI/DOJ and did what they ordered

Mueller was really investigating Loretta Lynch and the FBI/DOJ and how they used Sater to plant incriminating evidence to frame Trump

And from Surber:


Connect the dots -- Sater was working & Trump were working for the FBI and using Bayrock, a legitimate business, as a honey pot/ bait for Russian money launderers and crooks. And they're still close, I suspect. Sater is loyal to Trump. Which Jerry Nadler may have just discovered -- and why it's unlikely we will ever see Felix water testify, in front of his tinpot Home of Representatives 'enquiry'.

Narciso79

French mustard was spectacularly wrong about this matter.

Captain Hate

Taibbi's greatest hit:

http://www.nypress.com/flathead/

Porchlight

I don't get the significance of the gif, TK.

Porchlight

Lol, Cap'n, I had forgotten about that.

Threadkiller

Instead of throwing 100 darts at the board and cherry picking the best, porch, I think 4D is really a board that adjust to the single dart.

peter

fdcol for the win! made me chuckle

Captain Hate

>@CillizzaCNN

"Trump may have created the environment in which someone like Avenatti could be taken semi-seriously as a presidential candidate. But Avenatti's fall also proves there is only one Donald Trump out there."

A. Never doubt they can tie anything to Trump. It's all his fault, even the butterfly that was crushed on the other side of the planet.

B. Never forget: Avenatti is team Clinton. He worked for Rahm Emanuel as an oppo researcher for the Clintons on the 90's before he got a law degree. Not just some random, bigmouth West Coast lawyer who decided to make a name for himself by challenging Trump.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2019 09:19 AM (W+vEI)

Narciso79

Cillizza is journolist but hes also uncommonly stupid.

Porchlight

Ah. Or, 4D is the method of an expert dart thrower who can hit a moving target.

Narciso79

Theres also the kingdom tie to avenatti that the dropped like a hot kebab.

Threadkiller

Avenatti is team Clinton. He worked for Rahm Emanuel as an oppo researcher for the Clintons on the 90's

I wonder if Trump's close relationship with Rahm's brother, Ari, is significant?

fdcol63 🇺🇸

Someone needs to find a way to hack into whatever the current "journolist" is, the source of the groupthink echo chamber talking points that all the Lefty MSM hacks use when they parrot the same mantras that Rush spotlights.

I bet they parrot that shit so mindlessly, and that they're so full of cognitive dissonance, that someone could get them to accidentally say things positive to Trump and America if they really wanted to.

Captain Hate

A Ukraine primer:

Ok, here is a good article to start with. What is really ironic/maddening is look at the date this article was published, 1//11/17. This article came out after the election but before Trump was even sworn in. Not long before Gen. Flynn "lied" to the FBI.

https://politi.co/2gNiZwu

And this one is fantastic. A virtual link-a-palooza.

https://bit.ly/2LOwOse

Look at all the players who show up like Christopher Steele, Victoria Nuland, the previous Ukraine ambassador, Joe Biden, etc.

And then there is John frigging McCain. He was up to his ass in this thing in his position as Shadow President. Poroshenko was the guy the US installed as president and the guy who spoke at McCain's funeral. How random.

https://bit.ly/2JFDvkc

There's more but this should get you started.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2019 09:23 AM (/tuJf)

Threadkiller

:-) Porch.

We actually know how this particular board works:

https://hackaday.com/2017/03/22/dartboard-watches-your-throw-catches-perfect-bullseyes/

Beasts of England

I wish I could post photos from my phone. Someone posted a pic on FB telling Avanetti to take his case all the way to the Supreme Court - with a picture of a smiling Kavanaugh. 😂

Narciso79

Look for the stupidest possible argument repeated 500 times for consensus.

Marlene

Good Morning! Just caught up,we had visitors from Maine,others to arrive this week-end. Yes,what a week so far! Yes,the traffic/driving here is challenging. The brand new Atlanta Braves spring training stadium near us opened over the week-end. The game on Sunday was the inaugural event and the traffic was on US 41 was awful. The police directed traffic after the game,but sadly a horrific accident happened. A 20 year old woman,either drunk or texting,blew thru the police road block and crashed into a car killing an 80 year old couple. We were sitting on the lanai with our friends,heard the sirens and saw the helicopters overhead leaving the scene. The stadium has been a big deal here and the accident ruined the excitement of the day. Very sad.

Beasts of England

Welcome to Rocket City, Vice President Pence! 🚀

Tom R

From the previous thread...

HIS main point is when did Mueller know it was a hoax?

My guess is the day before he was appointed SC when he and Rosenstein had their meeting with Trump.

BTW MM linked this article in the last thread. Did anyone else but me notice what the chyron said?

https://mobile.twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1110257607879651330

Threadkiller

Dan Bongino is not smarter than Forest Gump.

henry

Leader McConnell @senatemajldr
13m

So I am troubled that leading Democrats seem to have some difficulty plainly calling out anti-semitism within their own ranks. And I am troubled that many of the declared Democrat presidential candidates seem to be avoiding @AIPAC this year.

Tom R

Jim @ 8:25

Thanks for the Don Surber link. It’s nice to read articles from people willing to consider all the possibilities, even the ones that seem improbable. There is a reason I quoted Sherlock Holmes in the previous thread. IMO it is appropriate when describing the Mueller SC.

Captain Hate

War Turtle!

Narciso79

No hes Moriarty not holmes.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--If Black wished to be understood, he would use common words. If he wishes to strut about and declare himself an elite, then rare words will do.--

I like high falutin words that I have to look up. Pretty sure even a feeble minded 3rd grader, or a Democrat, would get the gist of his column.

fdcol63 🇺🇸

"Dan Bongino is not smarter than Forest Gump."

I dunno, TK. I like Bongino, and I think his analysis of the Russia collusion hoax has been spot on all along, and I appreciate his willingness to speak out on it.

I thought his presentation here, in particular, was very interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBBykUWuaNY

henry

European lawmakers have approved an initial deal on controversial copyright legislation that could have far-reaching consequences for the business models of tech giants like Google and Facebook.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/eu-parliament-passes-copyright-ruling-that-will-hit-google-facebook.html

Ministers at the Council o9f Europe still have to vote on it.

Tom R

TK @ 9:12

I’m looking forward to knowing the full story on Felix Sater. The facts we do know already is that he was a FBI informant against the mob under the control of Loretta Lynch when she was at SDNY. We also know he sent an email to Michael Cohen that was fairly damning and suggested collusion (at least the attempt at collusion) between Trump and Putin. The dot connecting at the time suggested Sater was still under the control of the corrupt FBI and sent that email to entrap Cohen and allow the Feds to go after Trump.

The facts have changed since then and now we know Trump was a FBI informant himself for 40+ years. Did Trump and Mueller work together in the past to take down the mob? What was the nature of their relationship? When Trump and Mueller met with each other the day prior to Mueller getting appointed as SC, was their past workimg together discussed? Perhaps Mueller was selected to be the SC because Trump trusted him due to their past efforts working together?

Captain Hate

A Saga Continues:

Brad heads down to the docks, towards a beautiful vessel. "Maybe this won't be so bad," he thinks.

The hull gleaming in fresh white paint, the flags flying on the mast, the polished woodwork - the vessel is truly beautiful. "Can I help you?" a crewmen asks when he boards.
"Yes, I'm here for the job."
"What job?"
"This is the SS Bulwark, right?"
"No, this is the Crystal Princess, the Bulwark's that way."

***

Fu Manchu watches the tv in the restaurant bar in growing disbelief. "No charges, no nothing? They started an investigation on complete baloney and expected that Golden Scalp Weasel would just fall into their laps without real work? Are they insane? Why can't they handle a simple coup, they are the CIA!" Fu pauses in his rant. "Oh wait - I think I see the problem now..."

***

Back down at the docks Brad looks over the Bulwark. "Just my luck."
He carefully walks up the rickety gangplank and glances about the unkempt deck. 'Hello? Anyone here?"
"AHOY!"
The shout causes him to jump and spin around before noticing a chubby short man sporting a yachting cap. "Um - ahoy to you too. I'm here for the job."
"Great! Could use another hand right now, what with Jonah being off at fat camp. We got to get the Bulwark ready for its first cruise of paying customers. You know how to cook?"
"I was a dishwasher in a Chinese restaurant."
"Close enough for our purposes, you can help Egg in the galley?"
"Egg?"
"Egg McMuffin, former Tru-Conservative presidential candidate and all-around ship's lackey. Hey, Charlie! Show this youngster to the galley."
"First Mate Charlie," the man in the Cracker Jack outfit says, "Of the good ship Bulwark. Follow me."
He leads Brad past other characters - a pompous windbag reciting baseball statistics, a woman who twitches and slaps at her arms, yelling about bugs - and into the superstructure. The kitchen is where they stop, the first mate saying "Good Luck kid - death to the Golden Scalp Weasel," before leaving.
"Are you here to h-h-help?"
Brad looks at the ovoid-skulled man next to the fry grill and guesses "You must be Egg McMuffin."
"Y-y-yes. Are you here to h-h-help?"
"Yeah, I was just hired. Anything wrong?"
"Nothing. Everything. You aren't going to cook me, are you?"
Brad backs away. "No..?"
"They wanted to. When the Sea Cuck sank. We were in the raft, they said they wanted to eat me."
"Maybe I should leave."
A blattering, coughing horn sounds.
"Too late, we're sailing."
"Sailing? This wreck? I thought it was stuck on the bottom!"
"No, it f-f-f-floats, Got a billionaire to sponsor the cruise for the s-s-s-sucker conservatives. It's all about the money. And the cocktails. Hope you can c-c-c-cook or they might eat you."
Brad looks with horror around the dingy, dirty galley. "Getting the Lumina fixed is so not worth this." He turns to Egg. "Don't just stand there, start cleaning this place! I'll find some food!"

To be continued...
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Build the Colossus of Trump! at March 26, 2019 09:47 AM (hLRSq)

Buckeye

I like high falutin words that I have to look up.

Me too Iggy.

Keeps me humble which is probably a damn good thing:)

Narciso79

How did brennan end up as director, well Petraeus was eased out thanks to jeh Johnson's leak, but here's a fascinating detail who was a PhD candidate at the Sam's time as Paula Broadwell at kings college that would be Nawaf obeid, mifsud associate with general intelligence

Threadkiller

The chyron vs the transcript:

Q    Mr. President, so did this turn out to not be a witch hunt after all?  Do you think Robert Mueller did a fair investigation?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  It’s lasted a long time.  We’re glad it’s over.  It’s 100 percent the way it should have been.  I wish it could have gone a lot sooner, a lot quicker.  There are a lot of people out there that have done some very, very evil things, very bad things.  I would say treasonous things against our country.

And hopefully people that have done such harm to our country — we’ve gone through a period of really bad things happening — those people will certainly be looked at.  I have been looking at them for a long time.  And I’m saying, “Why haven’t they been looked at?”  They lied to Congress.  Many of them — you know who they are — they’ve done so many evil things.

I will tell you, I love this country.  I love this country as much as I can love anything: my family, my country, my God.  But what they did, it was a false narrative.  It was — it was a terrible thing.

We can never let this happen to another President again.  I can tell you that.  I say it very strongly.  Very few people I know could have handled it.  We can never, ever let this happen to another President again.

Thank you all very much.  I appreciate it.  Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you very much.  Thank you very much.  Thank you very much.

Q    Do you want the report to be completely released?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  Up the Attorney General, but it wouldn’t bother me at all.  Up to the Attorney General.  Wouldn’t bother me at all.

Q    Any news on pardons?  Are you thinking about pardoning anyone, sir?

PRESIDENT TRUMP:  No, I haven’t.  I haven’t thought about it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-prime-minister-netanyahu-israel-bilateral-meeting-4/

Maybe there is a video that explains the chyron?

Narciso79

Mifsud having been associate with the valdai forum which papadopoulos was invited to.

Buckeye

This EU copyright thing has me very conflicted.

First of all 99% of what floats around on the 'net is of dubious value, so why bother.

On the other hand, Google and Facebook deserve nearly every beat down coming there way.

Threadkiller

I dunno, TK. I like Bongino,

Sorry for the impression I made there, fdcol63. I like Bongino very much, as well. I was mocking the Kabuki position that anyone who is smarter than Forest Gump knows that Trump has been manipulating the SC since day one.

From that I sarcastically extrapolated that Bongino, per Kabuki, must have falling short.

Tom R

TK @ 10:08

The chyron is correct. This guy is the WH correspondent for Voice of America. The Trump quote happened at the end of the meeting.

https://twitter.com/w7voa/status/1110214414345605120?s=21

fdcol63 🇺🇸

TK ... LOL. Sorry I missed the sarcasm!

I think Trump manipulates his critics every time he tweets. LOL

Narciso79

Shirley

https://mobile.twitter.com/JayCaruso/status/1110274619519451137

So I know it's a crazy notion to think that Tom Rick's might not have said the truth about whether he introduced Broadwell to Petraeus, atranger things have happened right

James D.

On the other hand, Google and Facebook deserve nearly every beat down coming there way.

But as always with this kind of thing, the big companies will have the lawyers and resources to comply. It'll be everyone else that gets beaten down.

Threadkiller

I didn't hear that question and answer on this recording, Tom:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pAc9Bwwatck

henry

James D, what part of Europe isn't based on a large firm getting concessions from the govt? That the US can innovate and grow new things is what they hate about us.

Buckeye

Good point JamesD

Buckeye

That the US can innovate and grow new things is what they hate about us.

True Henry, as long as the nanny state stays out of the way.

Obama had us on a trajectory that would have left us as crippled as Europe.

Thank God Trump started slashing regs when he got in office.

Captain Hate

James D, what part of Europe isn't based on a large firm getting concessions from the govt? That the US can innovate and grow new things is what they hate about us.

The EU has always been a massive con to pretend to be able to compete economically with the US with MOAR CENTRAL CONTROL. Surely Soros and the rest of the control freak dickweeds were behind it.

Tom R

CH @ 9:32

Your Ukraine primer links reinforce the point I made yesterday that Mueller’s main focus was always uncovering foreign lobbying and the real foreign interference in US elections.

What I believe happened is that while under the official guise of investigating collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, Mueller was also collecting evidence of Ukraine’s collusion with the Democrats and neocons (McCain). Keep in mind the leaders of Ukraine are all puppets of George Soros. Just like he turned over to SDNY the evidence of criminal activity by Podesta, Craig and Weber, IMO Mueller also turned over evidence of all Ukrainian collusion with the Democrats to the DOJ.

henry

GDPR, now copyright. EU passing extraterritorial laws to constrict our rights. For them that is a feature.

jimmyk

Porch, re your 8:01, I posted this a couple of days ago:

Congratulations to President Obama and his team whose foresight, leadership and determination alllowed the US and particularly our Kurdish allies to defeat ISIS

https://twitter.com/govhowarddean/status/1109227106385436672?s=21

Narciso79

Once upon a time, Manafort did things for principle support aavimbi against the oil rich angolan regime perhaps Marco's but that time has long passed, it's now about his meal ticket his suits other accoutrements.

James D.

That the US can innovate and grow new things is what they hate about us.

Absolutely.

What's so horrible about this law (and garbage like GDPR) is that once it's in place in Europe, it becomes far more likely we'll see something similar (or worse, considering the caliber of people who write our laws) here.

Or, worse still, a patchwork of state laws that make it impossible for anyone but the largest companies to conduct business, or provide any sort of forum for free speech, on the Internet.

Which I imagine is the whole point of the exercise.

Tom R

TK @ 10:22

You have a VOA reporter who was in the room and also CNBC reporting that Trump said it so I suggest to you open your mind and consider it most likely that Trump said it after the video clip you posted,

Captain Hate

You might be right, Tom. When Rooski meddling in Ukraine happened I was very puzzled by the Bathhouse 🐀 's actions and this might explain them very well.

henry

James D. the US Supreme Court set that up with the horrible state tax decision. Apparently a connection to the internet now satisfies global nexus requirements.

We are well and truly screwed.

Captain Hate

Ha. Felix Sater's interview with the House Intel Committee is now postponed with no indication if it will ever be rescheduled.

This thing is going to implode rapidly.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2019 10:30 AM (/tuJf)


No it won't! It's not over! I have authority, I will badger witnesses, I will subpoena documents, I will search, search, search and I will get Trump! I will get him! I swear, I will. Filthy Baggins, I mean Trump - I hates you forever!
Posted by: Adam Schiff (D-Mordor) at March 26, 2019 10:36 AM (hLRSq)

Threadkiller

Reporter reporting on reporters. That sounds familiar.

I guess the WH official transcript deleted it because 4D.

It seems more likely, after watching the chaos of shouted questions at the end that the reporters attached an answer to whichever question they preferred.

JimNorCal

TK quotes Surber: "Sater is loyal to Trump. Which Jerry Nadler may have just discovered -- and why it's unlikely we will ever see Felix water testify, in front of his tinpot Home of Representatives 'enquiry'."

Wasn't Sater's appt to testify to the House cancelled, like, yesterday?

Tom R

TK,

If that is the conclusion your confirmation bias forces you to take then I guess we finished,

I knew Trump saying that Mueller acted honorably wouldn’t go over well with a lot of folks here.

Narciso79

Now saters handlers are deeper in the security organs maybe wray possibly farther in the weeds remember they fed that chart to buzzfeed.

henry

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
2m

“What we’re seeing on Capital Hill right now is that the Democrats are walking back any charges of Collusion against the President.” @ByronYork @BillHemmer Should never have been started, a disgrace!

Narciso79

Sorry buzzardfeed, although maybe it came through Daniel Jones silicon valley financed outfit

MissMarple2

Jim,

Yes, Sater's scheduled testimony was cancelled. I remembered that when I read Surber's column, but forgot to mention it because I got sidetracked with my other hobby, laundry.

Threadkiller

Indeed it was, Jim.

fdcol63 🇺🇸

Maybe that's what Nancy was saying to Jerry:
"Cancel Sater's subpoena. He's not on our side." LOL

25-pelosi-nadler-impeachment-w300-h300

MissMarple2

They really are sounding insane:

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/trump-entertain-russian-hockey-players-in-the-white-house/

AND, he's a friend of Putin's!

He's also the damned CAPTAIN of the Stanley Cup champions!

anonamom

Driving in Florida can be challenging. Heavy traffic and then some 90 year old lady who can barely see over the steering wheel in the right lane doing 45.

Bad combo:)

Buckeye, you forgot the tourists, who don't know where they are going.

Near fatal combo (for my MIL, three years ago).

HATE driving there. Only place we've ever been rear ended on the highway! "Just keep driving" I urged. The guy who did it was one of those 90 year olds peering over the steering wheel--had no interest in getting in to it with him.
Don't tell gentlejim on me.

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